Re: IBM has posted 1.3 pre-release

2000-05-04 Thread SHUDO Kazuyuki

Juergen Kreileder wrote:

> IBM has its own JVM.  Our 1.3 will have Sun's HotSpot VM.

Is the forthcoming Blackdown JDK 1.3 based on the
source code of HotSpot VM available under SCSL ?
I infer the answer is no.
The archive containing the sourcecode (hotspot1_0_1-src.tar.gz)
seems to contains only SPARC stuffs.

Will the HotSpot VM have a JIT compiler?

I know Sun migrates from the classic VM to the HotSpot VM.
One of my concerns is the effect of that migration
on developments of JIT compilers.

Kazuyuki SHUDO  Happy Hacking!
  Muraoka Lab., Grad. School of Sci. & Eng., Waseda Univ.


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Re: Source Code of Web Browser for Linux

2000-05-04 Thread Kristian Soerensen


Hi

There's the source for Netscape/Mozilla available from www.mozilla.org
and from the same URL you can get the source an approach to create an
entire webbrowser in Java that Netscape abandoned but it still being
developed by volunteers.

You schould not underestimate the platform independence of the Netscape
browser itself. It's ported to an enormous number of platforms, I beleive
that it actually holds sort of a world record for largest application
proted to the most platforms. 

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On Mon, 1 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi:
> 
> Is there any source code of a Web browser for Linux available somewhere?
> It's even better if it's pure Java source code, so we can use it on
> different platform to get a consistent interface?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> Lee
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Re: IBM has posted 1.3 pre-release

2000-05-04 Thread Scott Murray

On Thu, 4 May 2000, SHUDO Kazuyuki wrote:

> Juergen Kreileder wrote:
> 
> > IBM has its own JVM.  Our 1.3 will have Sun's HotSpot VM.
> 
> Is the forthcoming Blackdown JDK 1.3 based on the
> source code of HotSpot VM available under SCSL ?
> I infer the answer is no.

My understanding from reading the status page and talking with
several people at LinuxWorld in February is that that is correct.
However, I believe Sun have said that they will make the 1.3
source available under the SCSL at some point, probably after
they get around to shipping the FCS version.

> The archive containing the sourcecode (hotspot1_0_1-src.tar.gz)
> seems to contains only SPARC stuffs.

Yes that's the original server side HotSpot VM.  1.3 includes the
so-called client side HotSpot VM, which is supposed to have better
performance with interactive applications.

> Will the HotSpot VM have a JIT compiler?

I'm pretty sure that the Classic VM included with the 1.3 release
candidates for Windows does not include a JIT.  Since the default
VM is HotSpot, which has their dynamic compilation technology in
it, that won't be a problem for most people.  However, if you hit
a bug in HotSpot that requires you to switch to the Classic VM,
you're screwed, as it has no JIT (unless you install one). :(

> I know Sun migrates from the classic VM to the HotSpot VM.
> One of my concerns is the effect of that migration
> on developments of JIT compilers.

>From what I've seen of IBM's 1.3, with its improvements on their
already fast 1.1.8 VM, I think you have more to fear from it in
this regard.

Scott


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IBM 1.3 impressions

2000-05-04 Thread noisebrain


- it uses the IBM jit rather than hotspot.  Performs similarly
  to IBM's 1.1.8 on a couple benchmarks (i.e. very good performance,
  though we haven't seen what hotspot can do yet).

- The Swing demo is completely rewritten, worth checking out.
  Java2D demo is modified slightly.

- SWING IS MUCH FASTER.  At last!   Java performance has been
  pretty reasonable for a while now, except swing, which crawled
  in 1.2.  


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Editorial about Sun, Java, Linux

2000-05-04 Thread Nelson Minar

Picked this up off Linux Weekly News,
  http://www.osopinion.com/Opinions/KevinLyda/KevinLyda7.html

"If there was a free software version of Java available, or better yet
if Sun would work in concert with the Mozilla development team to
integrate a Java vm into Mozilla/Netscape then there would finally be
a platform users could run Java from. Barring Netscape on Microsoft
Windows or Microsoft Internet explorer of course."

...

"So wake up Sun! The free software community isn't interested in the
destructive "embrace and extend," we'd just like to make it work!
That's all. But you've tied our hands, we can't help. Let us help.
Please."

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