Re: JDBC-connection in Linux

[Rachel Greenham]

On Sat, 12 Dec 1998, Christopher Hinds wrote:
>>Try WebLogic's , they have multiple Type 4 (and Type 2) JDBC Drivers
>for most of production comercial DBMSs
> www.weblogic.com
>
>They may be free , in any event they do offer eval licenses

Not free. We evaluated it with reference to connecting to MS SQLServer, as the
JDBC-ODBC bridge didn't cut it, and it did seem extremely solid and complete
(more so than PostGreSQL anyway), but it turns out to be *extremely* expensive
- especially as you go to "enterprise" capabilities (below which it's
number-of-connections-limited).

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Re: VAJava 4 Linux petition is still on!!!

[Rachel Greenham]

On Sun, 13 Dec 1998, Jauvane Cavalcante de Oliveira wrote:
>I just received a messge letting me know that the petition asking IBM to
>release a version of VAJava is still collecting signatures and will soon
>be forwarded to IBM. So, if you did not sign it already and you would
>like to have such development environment for Linux (as well as an
>indirect support from IBM) I would suggest you to sign it up and
>increase the 700 mark already reached :-D.
>
>The URL is http://www.jguru.com/thetick/visualage/tips. follow the
>"petition" link.

I'd love to, but this URL doesn't respond.

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Re: thanks

[Rachel Greenham]

On Fri, 18 Dec 1998, August West wrote:
>>
>I work for a startup software company that is building a 100% Java web-based
>training package. We're using the JRun webserver for servlets, and it's
>all-in-all a pretty cool package. I've got the installers just about built
>for Win32, and it looks like it's gonna be a while before Mac has a good 1.2 VM
>and plugin. Personally, I'm rather sick of having to deal with NT, although I
>realize it's not going to go away very soon. It's just very rewarding to
>know that I'll be able to put our product out for Linux. It makes me feel very
>good, and I wanted to take the time to thank you for putting in so much work on
>the project. Thanks, 

At the risk of sounding like an Advocacy group, I agree. I work for a web
design company and we programmers are trying to move away from the NT/ASP
environment, and towards JRun/JSP. We're actually doing our site development
now on a SuSE Linux box with Blackdown's JDK 1.1.7, and we find it very stable
indeed (including the Swing-based config apps). We're still deploying the sites
on IIS on NT, but hope to change that over time as our "let's do nasty
experimental things" develop machine conspicuously has a perfect uptime record
compared to the "let's make this a simple stable box" NT server which needs
rebooting all the time.

We're not moving up to 1.2 yet, therefore, as we want to wait for it to become
available for all our platforms. We have a stable working environment here so
there's no urgent need.

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Re: subscribe

[Rachel Greenham]

Patrick wrote:
> 
> DAMN! you got me. I totally forgot about the bash export stuff.
> Thats what it was. Durn...
> 
> As for netscape, I don't know what to say. Does it use a local JVM or does
> it use its own?

As far as I can see it uses its own - and is so buggy (Communicator 4.5)
that I've disabled it. If someone can tell me how to make Netscape use
the local JVM I would be *very* grateful!

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Re: KDE L&F ?

[Rachel Greenham]

Brian Jones wrote:
> 
> Andreas Rueckert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Hi!
> >
> > Is there a KDE L&F for Swing?
> 
> No, but you could create one, although I think the L&F you refer to is
> controlled more by your window manager than the desktop environment.

Well, as far as I could see, the Window Manager gives you the basic
window surrounding furniture - the close/maximise/minimise etc., but
nothing inside the window of a Swing app. A KDE L&F would produce KDE
style menus and other gadgets - probably via some sort of peering(?) so
it could read the configured KDE settings and do things the way the
current version of KDE does them. inc. colour and shape choices.

Peering, of course, defeats the object of Swing. :-} I suppose you could
reimplement the QTLib gadgets in Java, but you'd still have to read
system/user config files to know what settings to use.

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Does anyone know the status of Java Linux on the Cobalt Qube?

[Rachel Greenham]

No, this isn't a 1.2 question. :-) I'm already using JDK 1.1.7 on Linux
with JSP, but would be interested to know how well the JVM works under
the processor used with the Cobalt Qube (MIPS I think). Anyone have any
experience/knowledge with this?

Also/alternatively, how well it runs on a Netwinder, as an alternative.

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Re: Off topic question..

[Rachel Greenham]

Justin Knotzke wrote:



> so maybe their attitudes have really changed. I suspect that BEA has not ported
> Weblogic to Linux because of it's reluctance to use Blackdown's VM.

Ported? Why port? I used Weblogic's JDBC drivers for MS SQL on Linux Blackdown
1.1.7 with no problems whatsoever. Worked way better than the Postgres JDBC
drivers anyway. It's Java, why port?

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Re: Cobalt

[Rachel Greenham]

john adams wrote:

> The Cobalt Qube and RaQ products are proving popular over here in the Uk
> as I expect they are in the states The Qube II has just been launched.
>
> These have MIPS CPUs running at 150 and 250Mhz.
>
> I have a customer who has one of these at raileurope.co.uk and he wants
> java 1.1 or above on it how can this be done we have compiled a number
> of programs for the Cobalt and they mostly work.

ISTR asking this myself a little while back: How good is Java on these
things? (ie: can we deploy JSP stuff on them?)

I got no answer, hope you hear better.

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Re: Question regarding a JDK1.2 bug

[Rachel Greenham]

Sanjay Bose wrote:
> 
> I had submitted a bug (#667) on 25th March 1999 and it has not yet been
> addressed by the BlackDown group. Since our product relies on the
> transient nameserver in JDK 1.2, we need that bug addressed so that we
> can officially state Linux Support.

You need to remember that JDK 1.2 for Linux is not yet officially
released, and should not yet be considered ready for deployment in
anything mission-critical. It so happens that in the combination of
green threads with no JIT enabled, it has now passed the Sun
compatibility tests, and on the basis of that I'm taking the chance and
running it on a new bookshop site, but it's understood that's my risk
and I may need to revert if there are problems.

Have you tried your software under JDK1.2 for other platforms (ie: NT or
Solaris)? Is it definitely a Linux-port bug or a Java bug?

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Re: Java IDE

[Rachel Greenham]

Matthias Carlsson wrote:

> I'm having problem finding a Java IDE for Linux I like, and I thought
> I should give it a try and ask here. What is everyone here using to
> develop their classes in Linux? I'm used to KAWA for Win32, but now
> after switching to Linux I've been unable to find a good replacement.

I've downloaded and am occasionally trying out Visual Age for Java. It looks
pretty good and the existing established NT version is very highly regarded,
but will be hard to get into: I've only ever just used raw text
editors/makefiles etc. before (except for Symantec C++ on Mac OS and I didn't
like that either). I think I like it best for just being a class/method/member
browser and editor...

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Re: favorite code beautifiers?

[Rachel Greenham]

Hendrik Schreiber wrote:
> Michael Thome wrote:
> 
> > Any suggestions for nice code beautifiers (for java)?  Beautifiers
> > written in java would, of course, be preferred, but as long as it runs
> > under linux (C/C++/whatever)...

Artistic Style was quite nice.

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Re: IBM Visual Age for Java

[Rachel Greenham]

Wendell Nichols wrote:
> 
> In searching for a good (free or otherwise) IDE for Linux I found Visual
> Age (beta) for Linux on IBM's site.
> 
> http://www7.software.ibm.com/vad.nsf/Data/Document2590
> 
> I had to register to get it, but if its good I may even buy it.  I think
> the Linux Java community should be more aware of this...
> wcn

Oh, we're aware all right. Got it, tried it out, but I've been too-long
a programmer with text editors and command-line tools to get the hang of
IDEs (I'm going to give Symantec Visual Cafe a spin next time I need to
do something very GUI-oriented - we have it here on an iMac).

As for the IBM JVM, I'll be interested once they have a 1.2 - see if
they have the same problems as Blackdown

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Re: How to help???

[Rachel Greenham]

Robert Perry wrote:
> 
> I have virtually no time, but would like to know how to help the
> Blackdown team.  I'm not sure that I could help.  I just started looking
> on the web paged expecting a todo list or something.  Not seeing a "How
> to Help" page I though someone in this list could get me started.

Probably the most useful thing is to test Java 2 to destruction. Test in
as many ways you can in as many combinations on as many platforms and
system configurations. As far as I understand it, the current situation
is basically that Java 2 now passes the compatibility tests using green
threads and no JIT compiler, but that there are bugs in the JIT and some
other bugs regarding that and/or native threads where they haven't yet
found a pattern in what succeeds and what fails.

On this subject, if anyone's interested in my latest experiences with
the live JSP website I've deployed using Java 2 (not to be recommended I
know, but I needed some Java 2 features and it was that or NT), I've now
tried all the combinations. To recap:

System is SuSE 6.0 with kernel 2.2.9 SMP (+DoS patch), dual Pentium
II/350MHz blah (more details if requested)

Green threads, no JIT, all fine.
Green threads, with JIT, JVM crashes on initialisation.
Native threads, with JIT, all works well for a while (and FAST), but
then crashed after a few days.
Native threads, no JIT, the one combination I didn't get a chance to try
before: all seems fine so far. I set it going on this combination
earlier this week, and it's survived the condition that seemed to kill
native+JIT twice now.

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Re: Jrun on linux and apachie?

[Rachel Greenham]

Brent Allsop wrote:
> 
> Folks,
> 
> I'm attempting to get java server pages and java servlets
> running on a remote Linux box (Redhat 6.0) with apache.  I only have
> access to this linux box via telnet, no X or any graphics.
> 
> What's the best JVM to use for something like this?  It looks
> as if they all require a windowing system to run.
> 
> Has anyone else done anything like this?

Yes, no problem. I use Live Software's JRunPro with the Blackdown JVM
(JDK1.2prev2) and Apache on a headless server sitting in a hosting
company's shelf some several hundred miles away.

Just use it... JRunPro has a command-line installer as well as a
Swing-based one, and besides there's alternatives like JServ/GNUJSP and
iASP. The JVM only wants X if you're trying to run GUI applications.
There's no problem with running command-line applications and servlets.

(In any case, there is also the fact that X means you can run any GUI
applications over the network onto your local workstation. I've had to
do this a couple of times with the abovementioned server, and it's slow
with that much latency, but it works.)

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Re: Jrun on linux and apachie?

[Rachel Greenham]

Dimitris Vyzovitis wrote:
> 
> Rachel Greenham wrote:
> 
> >
> > JVM only wants X if you're trying to run GUI applications.
> > There's no problem with running command-line applications and
> > servlets.
> >
> 
> This is not absolutely true.
> There are case where your dynamic content includes generated/altered
> images.
> You need X for  awt/java2D to work.

Yes, this is true. Luckily I haven't needed this once. We tried to write
software to manipulate images without a window on the screen. Basically
impossible. :-(

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Re: Help Needed ??

[Rachel Greenham]

Rajkishore Barik wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Is it possible to get JDBC  code for linux ?
> If so, where can i get it.

Sure, depends what back-end database you'd be connecting to though.
PostgreSQL (http://www.postgresql.org), which I use, has a JDBC driver
as part of the package. JDBC drivers exist for many proprietary
databases too, some of which are Linux-native, some of which you would
connect to over TCP/IP (eg: MS SQL Server). The best JDBC drivers, the
ones to look out for are "class 4" drivers, which means that they are
implemented entirely in 100% pure Java, which in turn means they will
run under Blackdown Linux. As I said, I use PostgreSQL and its JDBC
driver, but I've also tried out the Weblogic class 4 driver for
SQLServer under Linux. It works very well, but is *very* expensive (as
is, of course,the NT solution you'd need to use the back-end.) Oracle
are keen on Java so they have JDBC drivers as part of the package.

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Re: How can I help?

[Rachel Greenham]

Larry Gates wrote:
> 
> Here's another "project" that should be easy with Java, yet very
> much needed (at least by me, unless someone knows of a good
> alternative to Ncftp):
> 
> 
> I've always wanted a GUI driven FTP program just like CuteFTP for windows98.

Actually, go to IBM's AlphaWorks site. They have an FTP Bean you can
download and use. I use this in the back-end of the bookshop site I
recently deployed, where it sends orders and receives acknowledgements
and dispatch information to and from the book distributors via FTP, so I
needed to have FTP under fairly good programmatic control. But the Bean
package comes with a full AWT client (can't remember it might actually
be Swing) which is quite nice in its own right. It has a similar
interface to ws_ftp under Windows. A Java programmer could also take the
Bean and write whatever front end they liked of course.

The only problem I had with the Bean was using it on our house
network/gateway machine which exists on both our internal network and
masquerades for all the others on the internet as a whole. (ie: it has
two IP addresses). The FTP bean would send the wrong IP out to remote
sites. On all other machines, the deployed live server, and machines
behind our masquerade/firewall host, it's fine.

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Re: linux distribution preinstall java

[Rachel Greenham]

Martin Schröder wrote:
> 
> On 1999-08-18 16:46:33 -0700, J.P.Lewis wrote:
> > I heard that Redhat says that they can't for licensing reasons.
> > On the other hand, I believe that Mandrake includes blackdown
> > on the applications cd.
> >
> > Does anyone know what the issue is?  Is the licensing problem
> > true even of the jre?
> 
> The jdk-pre may not be distributed.
> The jre may be distributed.

SuSE has the JDK. SuSE 6.0 has the 1.1.7 JDK I think, and the JRE, no
version of 1.2 though. I don't know about 6.2.

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Re: Where/When is a new release? (Big News!)

[Rachel Greenham]

Mark Wielaard wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I saw that the status page says that there have been some big improvements
> in the recent Blackdown port.
> 
> 
> 
> > Big news!
> > We've made significant progress with the problems plaguing the native
> > threads implementation. Some core parts of the native threads library
> > have been reimplemented to better utilize Linux threads. We also believe
> > we have discovered whyinterrupts were being "lost", and understand how
> > to work around the problems.
> 
> But I can not find this new version. Is there a new version already?
> We have an application that uses JDK1.2 and currently doesn't run on the
> Blackdown JDK because of Thread/Socket/Interrupt issues so we really like
> to test this new version.

Odd, I thought pre-v2 was the version that was already out. I think
that's what I've been running for months...

java version "1.2"
Classic VM (build Linux_JDK_1.2_pre-release-v2, green threads,
nojit)   

Hmm. Someone's made a boo-boo.

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Re: Where/When is a new release? (Big News!)

[Rachel Greenham]

Ted Neward wrote:
> 
> I thought I downloaded pre-v3 just a few weeks ago; "java -version" still
> reports itself as v2, though.

THe FTP site still only goes up to pre-v2.

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Re: Reinstall 1.1.7

[Rachel Greenham]

Tom Whitcomb wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
> I've got 1.2 installed and I want to remove it and reinstall 1.1.7.  How do
> I uninstall 1.2?  Do I just delete the 1.2 directories? What about the
> support for the automatic CLASSPATH?
> 
> Thanks for any help,

Well, under SuSE Java 1.1.7 is installed in /usr/lib/jdk1.1.7 and a
symbolic link exists to point to it, ie /usr/lib/java. I just installed
1.2 int /usr/lib/jdk1.2 and moved the link. When I want to use 1.1.7 I
either point to it directly, or I change the link back, though yes, you
do need to do classpath stuff

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Re: Reinstall 1.1.7

[Rachel Greenham]

Surjan Singh wrote:
> 
> I always thought that you _don't_ need the classpath.  If you have your
> PATH variable correctly (for the release you want to use, e.g.
> /usr/local/jdk1.2/bin) then you don't need to worry about anything else.
> 
> The only reason you would want your CLASSPATH set, is if you have other
> Java libraries you want your compiler/java/appletviewer to see.
> 
> If you want to remove a release of the JDK just remove the folder and
> its contents.

It's correct that you don't need to set the classpath for JDK1.2. It
works in a much more sane and sensible way than it did before. If you
have a CLASSPATH set when you invoke the JVM, it is *added* to the
default one needed to make Java work. IIRC in JDK1.1 this wasn't the
case: If you had your own libraries to add, you had to define the whole
classpath.

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Out of memory in JavaDoc in Java 1.2prev2

[Rachel Greenham]

I can't create a Javadoc of my library! I get out of memory errors. The
computer has loads of memory left over.

It's OK if I use the -1.1 flag, but not without.

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Re: Java on RedHat 6.1

[Rachel Greenham]

Paolo Ciccone wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Oct 07, 1999 at 10:49:58AM -0700, Dan Iuster wrote:
> > RedHat has just released the 6.1 version of Linux.  I am curious if
> > anyone has had any experience with the 1.1.7, 1.1.8 or 1.2 JDK and JRE
> > on RedHat 6.1.  I have some rather large applications to port, and I
> > would like to know if there are any known pitfall introduced by the new
> > kernel.  I believe 6.1 is based on the 2.2.12 kernel.
> 
> I don't know about RH 6.1 but I'm using Mandrake 6.1 with kernel 2.2.13 and
> JDK 1.2 works normally.

Um, I hadn't heard 2.2.13 was out. Are you on a pre?

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Re: Moving datbase access servlets built with Jbuilder3 to Linux/Apache(jserv)/JRE

[Rachel Greenham]

Ola Samuelson wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I am moving servlets accessing databases(jdbc)  to Linux plattform with
> Apache(jserv) and I am unsure
> whether this will work or not.
> 
> I am using a lot of com.borland.dx classes as well as others.
> Speaking generally: Will it work, provided that I also move required
> classes?
> 
> I guess that my question really is: Does the available JREs/jserv handle
> these kind of classes well provided that
> they are available or am I restricted to use java* classes only?

THe main point to remember about using servlets and JSP is that it *is*
Java, not some broken subset thereof. If you couldn't use other Java
classes it would be kind of pointless. You can use any classes or beans
that you like as long as it's sensible in the context (servlets with
AWT/Swing code for instance is not sensible). You can also define
*which* JVM to use with JServ (I use 1.2prev2 for instance).

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Re: Blackdown JDK vs Sun JDK

[Rachel Greenham]

Juergen Kreileder wrote:

> I didn't say so.  I don't have problems with somebody using our code.
> This is about respect!  What we have now is stuff like:

In case you're interested I've posted up an article to our LinuxGrrls.Org
site about this saying basically that, that LinuxToday are kindly linking
to. I'd appreciate some feedback to it. :-)

http://www.linuxgrrls.org/showstory.jsp?id=38

BTW: I must get around to changing my subscribed address to this list...

Ironically enough, I'm actually *using* that new JDK to serve out our site.
Seems to be working fine with the hits we're getting at the moment.

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Re: looking for URL

[Rachel Greenham]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I hate to waste mailing list bandwidth this way, but I've been asked for
> the URL for an article I read recently that quoted an IBMer making some
> statement about J2EE vs. WebSphere.  I believe it was an article on
> linuxgrrl but I can't track it down there as the home page doesn't seem to
> be doing a lot.

Not I.

I did make the claim in the recent article that IBM's JDK1.3 was to be
open-sourced. This was from memory, I'm *sure* I recall seeing that
somewhere, but when I was challenged on the matter, I couldn't find any
reference for it.

Very irritating. Because, what with all this recent furore, it would seem to
be the smart thing to do, to get behind the IBM effort.

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Re: Java shell

[Rachel Greenham]

Rob Saul wrote:

> Timothy Reaves wrote:
> >
> > I saw - somewhere sometime - a java shell application, that would
> > let you interactively execute java code.  I've lost the link.  Can
> > someone provide some assistance?
>
> Perhaps you're thinking of http://www.beanshell.org ?

Never heard of it. Now you mention it I've been playing with it.

Awesome! Might even make it my login shell. :->

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Problems installing Java plugin - sharkive broken?

[Rachel Greenham]

I can't seem to install the Java plugin on SuSE 6.3.

If I run the Sharkive, ie:

sh JavaPlugIn_1.2.2.px.sh

It shows me the license message in more, but when I leave that, I just get
the following errors:

: command not found.sh:
: command not found.sh:
: command not found.sh:
': not a valid identifierxport: `RESPONSE
Do you agree to the above license terms?
If you do not agree to the terms, installation cannot proceed
'avaPlugIn_1.2.2.px.sh: line 275: syntax error near unexpected token `then
'avaPlugIn_1.2.2.px.sh: line 275: `if  (  test -w . )
then  

Looks broken, dunnit? :-)

I then tried picking through it by hand, replicating the necessary steps
from the script, ie:

> outname=install.sfx.$$ 
> tail +341 JavaPlugIn_1.2.2.px.sh > $outname 
> zcat < $outname | (cd $HOME/.netscape ; tar xf - ) 
 
zcat: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated

Also, the file specified in $outname is not of any format recognised by ark.

What's happening?

My system is SuSE 6.3, glibc 2.1.2, kernel 2.2.14, with Netscape 4.72, 128Mb
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Re: Problems installing Java plugin - sharkive broken?

[Rachel Greenham]

Tom Williams wrote:
> 
> I had this same problem and it was caused by the format of the file I
> downloaded from the Blackdown site.  I downloaded the same file from a
> mirror site and the problem went away.

Hmm. I did download from a mirror... this one: ftp://ftp.tux.org/pub/java/ 

I think I'll go in with command-line FTP and make sure I'm getting it binary
rather than ASCII. Maybe that's it. Trying it with wget now.

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Re: Problems installing Java plugin - sharkive broken?

[Rachel Greenham]

Karl Asha wrote:
> 
> Seems a lot of people have managed to download the plugin in ascii
> mode. It needs to be explicitly downloaded in binary mode. The version
> at ftp.tux.org is correct. That site is actually the central mirror
> repository.

OK, the wget one didn't work either, now trying with command-line ftp from
ftp.tux.org explicitly setting bin...

Woo, that worked.

Are we always going to have this problem with sharkives? FTP clients assume
it's text and downloads it as such unless there's a way of explicitly
specifying binary.

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Re: Plugin control panel crashes Netscape

[Rachel Greenham]

Juergen Kreileder wrote:
> 
> >>>>> Rachel Greenham writes:
> 
> Rachel> OK, having now installed the Java Plugin on my system, I'm
> Rachel> finding that if I select the JavaPluginControlPanel item
> Rachel> that's appeared on my bookmarks menu, Netscape quits
> Rachel> completely.
> 
> Do you use a glibc-2.x version of netscape?

Yes. That's the one I downloaded from netscape.com anyway, to my
recollection, that didn't work with the libc5 Acrobat plugin either, but
does with the newer presumably glibc one that's come out more recently.

Is there an easy way I can verify this? (I know there's a command to run on
an executable to see what library dependencies it has, but I can't remember
what it is.)

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Re: Plugin control panel crashes Netscape

[Rachel Greenham]

Juergen Kreileder wrote:

> >> Do you use a glibc-2.x version of netscape?
> 
> Rachel> Is there an easy way I can verify this? (I know there's a
> Rachel> command to run on an executable to see what library
> Rachel> dependencies it has, but I can't remember what it is.)
> 
> ldd 

libc.so.6
... among other things

> For 4.72 there are three versions):
> 
> Supported/Linux 2.0:
> This is a libc5 version and it doesn't work with the Java Plug-In.
> 
> Supported/Linux 2.2 (glibc):
> This is a glibc-2.0 version and the Plug-In should work with it.
> 
> Unsupported/Linux:
> Glibc-2.1 version. Java Plug-In works.
> This version is not supported by Netscape.  IMO that doesn't mean
> much to the normal user.  It sometimes crashes or hangs but the
> supported versions do that too.

Well, it's one of the latter two I'm sure. The file I installed from is
called communicator-v472-export.x86-unknown-linux2.2.tar.gz which seemed the
most appropriate one to install for a glibc2.1.2 installation at the time,
so I guess it's probably the Unsupported/Linux version.

Could try reinstalling I suppose...

BTW the control panel does work when run standalone (ie: running the
ControlPanel script directly).

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Re: Plugin control panel crashes Netscape

[Rachel Greenham]

Adam Ambrose wrote:
> 
> Rachel Greenham wrote:
> 
> > Yes. That's the one I downloaded from netscape.com anyway, to my
> > recollection, that didn't work with the libc5 Acrobat plugin either, but
> > does with the newer presumably glibc one that's come out more recently.
> >
> > Is there an easy way I can verify this? (I know there's a command to run on
> > an executable to see what library dependencies it has, but I can't remember
> > what it is.)
> 
> 'ldd' is the command you want.
> 
> $ ldd `which netscape`
> /lib/libNoVersion.so.1 => /lib/libNoVersion.so.1 (0x40013000)
> libBrokenLocale.so.1 => /lib/libBrokenLocale.so.1 (0x4001d000)
> libXt.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x4001f000)
> libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x4006b000)
> libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x40074000)
> libXmu.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x4008b000)
> libXpm.so.4 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0x4009e000)
> libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x400ac000)
> libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x400b8000)
> libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x4015c000)
> libstdc++.so.2.8 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8 (0x4015f000)
> libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x401a)
> libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x401bc000)
> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)

Apart from different hex numbers, this is the output I get.

> The 2nd to the last line there shows that this netscape is linked to
> /lib/libc.so.6, which is glibc.  To find the version of glibc,
> 
> $ ls -l /lib/libc.so.6
> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   13 Dec 21 04:58 /lib/libc.so.6 ->
> libc-2.1.2.so

nope, /lib/libc.so.6 is a real file on this SuSE, but I'm pretty sure it's a
2.1.2 installation. The latest Blackdown JDK1.2.2RC4 works on it for one
thing, and there is a /lib/ld-2.1.2.so

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Re: .tar.bz2 ?

[Rachel Greenham]

"Eko Budhi S." wrote:
> 
> Thank you.
> I have tried your suggestion, but it doesn't work ... and I find that the
> tar version is 1.12 ...
> and there is no I or y options ... is this an old tar which can't unzipped
> the .bz2 ?

Have you installed bzip2 / bunzip2? You'll need these. Tar can only do
gzip/unzipping if gzip is present, and likewise for bzip2.

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