[JAWS-Users] Re: Jaws equivalent for MAC
Thanks, Chris. I just finally found (after lots of searching) info on VoiceOver. (And you addressed my No. 1 fear--that it's MAC's Narrator.) I will contact you off list if it appears I will be using this for possible work. I've gotten so familiar with using JAWS, it was my hope there was something FS had for MAC, but if not, oh well, onward and upward. Thanks much. Best, Joe Monks Every day you haven't written is a day you've written off... Chanting Monks Press http://www.chantingmonks.com Sight Unseen Pictures http://www.sightunseenpictures.com - Original Message - From: Christopher Hallsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 2:29 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: Jaws equivalent for MAC Joe, we do not need additional screen readers as Mac OSX 10.4 (Tiger) and above include one right out of the box: VoiceOver. It is as good as JAWS is for Windows, unlike Narrator, which is limited in functionality. Hope that helps. P.S. If you want to join any of the mac lists, please let me know, preferably off list, as we're getting off topic. Thanks. On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 22:17:34 -0400, Chanting Monks [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi folks, Could be I am just missing it, but I was tooling around the Freedom Scientific site looking for Jaws for MAC if it exists. Nothing popped up in the Jaws headquarters. I may be doing some work with a company that almost exclusively uses MAC (and I have a MAC that my film editor works on here at my home) so I am thinking about finding a screenreader for it. Obviously, I would want to use Jaws since I know it, but if there isn't such a thing, maybe somebody could tip me off to something similar? Anybody using both a MAC and a PC? Thanks. Best, Joe Monks Christopher Hallsworth E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype name chrishallsworth7266 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ In order to contact the management team simply fill out the following form found at: http://www.jaws-users.com/contact.php You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Re: Jaws equivalent for MAC
Ben, I won't address everything (though I wish I'd had this post three hours ago!) but thanks for the wealth of info, and for the Mac/MAC notation. Something good to know. Best, Joe Monks Every day you haven't written is a day you've written off... Chanting Monks Press http://www.chantingmonks.com Sight Unseen Pictures http://www.sightunseenpictures.com - Original Message - From: Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 2:52 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: Jaws equivalent for MAC I'm a web developer with an interest in screen reader issues who uses Mac OS X, Windows XP, and Ubuntu Linux, just so you know where I'm coming from. There is no JAWS for the Mac. For Mac OS 9, there was a screen reader called outSPOKEN sold by Alva, who have now gone out of business, though you may be able to find a second-hand copy. That's the bad news. The good news is Apple built a screen reader called VoiceOver into their new operating system, Mac OS X. For an introduction to VoiceOver see: http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/voiceover/ For more details see: http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/ Key software usable with VoiceOver includes the bundled Apple Mail program, the bundled Safari web browser, Adobe Reader, and (just recently added) ITunes. Microsoft Office for the Mac has not yet been made accessible with VoiceOver, but you can use other software capable of basic editing of Office files. Your message doesn't say what you need to use a Mac for so I'm not sure what software you'd need. Firefox is not yet accessible with VoiceOver, partly because the developer working on this found another job. However, it can be used as a talking browser on the Mac with the excellent Fire Vox extension: http://www.firevox.clcworld.net/ A future version of the free Opera browser will apparently also be usable with VoiceOver: http://my.opera.com/chaals/blog/speaking-out?cid=2506923 Questions about VoiceOver are best addressed to the discussion list for http://macvisionaries.com/: http://macvisionaries.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss_macvisionaries.com Darcy Burnard and Holly Anderson record a podcast for VoiceOver users: http://www.screenlessswitchers.com/ The BBC maintains a collection of Mac accessibility hints: http://www.bbc.co.uk/accessibility/mac/sub_root.shtml PS Just so you know, Mac is written with the M in uppercase and the a and c in lowercase, not MAC all in capitals. When all in capitals, MAC typically refers to a unique identifier for a networking card: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_address Hope that helps. -- Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 22:17 -0400, Chanting Monks wrote: Hi folks, Could be I am just missing it, but I was tooling around the Freedom Scientific site looking for Jaws for MAC if it exists. Nothing popped up in the Jaws headquarters. I may be doing some work with a company that almost exclusively uses MAC (and I have a MAC that my film editor works on here at my home) so I am thinking about finding a screenreader for it. Obviously, I would want to use Jaws since I know it, but if there isn't such a thing, maybe somebody could tip me off to something similar? Anybody using both a MAC and a PC? Thanks. Best, Joe Monks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ In order to contact the management team simply fill out the following form found at: http://www.jaws-users.com/contact.php You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Re: Question about compacting messages in OE
Ugh, this is a considerable problem then. It's happening far more frequently than every hundredth time. Thanks for the info. Do you know if this is the case in every version of OE? I'm running (I believe, since I can't cut and paste) 6.00.29 (and then some other digits I am not sure belong to the same line). Best, Joe Monks Every day you haven't written is a day you've written off... Chanting Monks Press http://www.chantingmonks.com Sight Unseen Pictures http://www.sightunseenpictures.com - Original Message - From: Sarah To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 8:23 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: Question about compacting messages in OE There will be no way to disable that. Every hundreth time you close and open OE you will come up woth that message. There is no way to reset that counter as well. SAG : I would look under matanance in the options dialog. you may find : something there that will help. : : : - Original Message - :From: Chanting Monks [EMAIL PROTECTED] :To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 01:50:26 -0400 :Subject: [JAWS-Users] Question about compacting messages in OE : :Hi folks, : :I've gone thru every menu in Outlook Express I can find and tried : the HELP menu, but can't find a control panel for the Compacting : Messages function. For some reason, this once-rare pop-up box : now suddenly alerts me of its desire to compact messages every : other day. I don't get *that* many messages, and think a recent : bunch of MS updates might have triggered this increased mania to : compact away. I have plenty of empty HD space, so I can't figure : out any reason (other than the MS updates) why OE wants to up the : frequency of this function. Can anybody tell me where the menu : might be to control compacting, or even turn it off? Thanks. : :Best, :Joe Monks : : : : __ : This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. : For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email : __ : : --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ In order to contact the management team simply fill out the following form found at: http://www.jaws-users.com/contact.php You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Jaws equivalent for MAC
Hi folks, Could be I am just missing it, but I was tooling around the Freedom Scientific site looking for Jaws for MAC if it exists. Nothing popped up in the Jaws headquarters. I may be doing some work with a company that almost exclusively uses MAC (and I have a MAC that my film editor works on here at my home) so I am thinking about finding a screenreader for it. Obviously, I would want to use Jaws since I know it, but if there isn't such a thing, maybe somebody could tip me off to something similar? Anybody using both a MAC and a PC? Thanks. Best, Joe Monks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ In order to contact the management team simply fill out the following form found at: http://www.jaws-users.com/contact.php You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Question about compacting messages in OE
Hi folks, I've gone thru every menu in Outlook Express I can find and tried the HELP menu, but can't find a control panel for the Compacting Messages function. For some reason, this once-rare pop-up box now suddenly alerts me of its desire to compact messages every other day. I don't get *that* many messages, and think a recent bunch of MS updates might have triggered this increased mania to compact away. I have plenty of empty HD space, so I can't figure out any reason (other than the MS updates) why OE wants to up the frequency of this function. Can anybody tell me where the menu might be to control compacting, or even turn it off? Thanks. Best, Joe Monks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ In order to contact the management team simply fill out the following form found at: http://www.jaws-users.com/contact.php You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Trouble w/JAWS reading clickable links, but links not clickable
Hi folks, I've run into a problem and maybe one of you can help. I hit a site where JAWS reads: Clickable, On Mouse Over Now, ordinarily, that makes the text said mouse is over clickable. But on this site in particular, it isn't. The text appears, alerts me I should be able to click, but apparently this is JAVA script that is poorly done (or so a friend has suggested). Does anybody know if there is some sort of keystroke command that will enable clicking, or some other way to navigate these would-be links? Any help is much appreciated. Best, Joe Monks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ In order to contact the management team simply fill out the following form found at: http://www.jaws-users.com/contact.php You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Re: Trouble w/JAWS reading clickable links, but links not clickable
Thanks for the tip. Still not working. I am beginning to think that perhaps it is poor coding. The rest of the standard links work fine, but these apparently won't work no matter the keystrokes attempted. Grumble... Best, Joe Monks Every day you haven't written is a day you've written off... Chanting Monks Press http://www.chantingmonks.com Sight Unseen Pictures http://www.sightunseenpictures.com - Original Message - From: Flor Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 7:26 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: Trouble w/JAWS reading clickable links, but links not clickable Try ctrl+insert+enter. This is [now] the designated OnMouseOver click keystroke. (In the past, some of these type of links wouldn't have been seen by JAWS.) - Original Message - From: Chanting Monks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 11:06 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Trouble w/JAWS reading clickable links, but links not clickable Hi folks, I've run into a problem and maybe one of you can help. I hit a site where JAWS reads: Clickable, On Mouse Over Now, ordinarily, that makes the text said mouse is over clickable. But on this site in particular, it isn't. The text appears, alerts me I should be able to click, but apparently this is JAVA script that is poorly done (or so a friend has suggested). Does anybody know if there is some sort of keystroke command that will enable clicking, or some other way to navigate these would-be links? Any help is much appreciated. Best, Joe Monks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ In order to contact the management team simply fill out the following form found at: http://www.jaws-users.com/contact.php You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Anybody using JAWS w/an AMD chipset?
Hi folks, Thinking about upgrading my laptop. Is anybody running any of the DELL Inspiron laptops, or using the AMD TurionTM 64 chipset? I have a lower end DELL laptop from about 5 years ago that runs JAWS great and handles all my other programs, but I am going to upgrade sometime soon anyway, and since the latest DELL deal seems pretty reasonable, I wanted input on how well JAWS runs with this set up. My previous computers, both laptop and desktop, have all run Intel Pentium chips, so I have no experience with the AMD. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Also, if anybody is running VISTA on this set up and has any ideas about that, great. I'm very comfortable with XP and don't particularly see the need for Vista, but if there's any advantage to taking the preloaded instead of having them configure for XP, better I go in knowing that now. Thanks. Best, Joe Monks Chanting Monks Press --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ In order to contact the management team simply fill out the following form found at: http://www.jaws-users.com/contact.php You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
