[JAWS-Users] Re: forms mode question

2007-05-21 Thread Alan & Terrie Robbins
Lisa

I have had the same problem at times and found changing cursor modes often
helps

Al
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  Hello everyone,
  I was on the bmg music web site, and I wanted to fill out the form to join
the club.  I went into forms mode so that I could type the information into
the edit boxes.  For example where I needed to type in my first name jaws
just says edit.  I tabbed through all of the edit boxes and it just says
edit.  I went out of forms mode and looked around on the page, and then jaws
would read first name, last name, mailing address etc.  It is very
frustrating to have to go in and out of forms mode just to get something
filled out.  Is there any way to get jaws to read this information while I'm
in forms mode?  I hope I have explained this well enough, so you all will
understand what I'm trying too do.  I am running jaws 6.0, and I have
windows XP home.  Any help with this would be greatly appreciated!
  Take care,
  Lisa

  

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[JAWS-Users] Re: forms mode question

2007-05-21 Thread Patricia

Yes, that works very well..

Patricia
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From: "Flor Lynch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 8:41 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: forms mode question


>
> This is often the case, so that, many times on Web pages, it is better to
> enter Forms mode only briefly before exiting it and reading on to the next
> edit, and entering again, etc.  Just hit the PC cursor to leave forms 
> Mode.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Lisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 2:07 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] forms mode question
>
>
> Hello everyone,
> I was on the bmg music web site, and I wanted to fill out the form to join
> the club.  I went into forms mode so that I could type the information 
> into
> the edit boxes.  For example where I needed to type in my first name jaws
> just says edit.  I tabbed through all of the edit boxes and it just says
> edit.  I went out of forms mode and looked around on the page, and then 
> jaws
> would read first name, last name, mailing address etc.  It is very
> frustrating to have to go in and out of forms mode just to get something
> filled out.  Is there any way to get jaws to read this information while 
> I'm
> in forms mode?  I hope I have explained this well enough, so you all will
> understand what I'm trying too do.  I am running jaws 6.0, and I have
> windows XP home.  Any help with this would be greatly appreciated!
> Take care,
> Lisa
>
>
>
> > 


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[JAWS-Users] Re: forms mode question

2007-05-21 Thread Ricque

Good point, John, thanks!
Richard Justice
www.blind-computing.com
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From: "Job Hunter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 10:08 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: forms mode question


Hi Lisa:

This is a very common problem encountered by screen reader users, if the 
form is not coded with the proper HTML labeling techniques.

What I usually do when I come across these issues with any web site that I 
find difficult or cumbersome to use:

Find the link to send feedback or contact the webmaster.  I then pen a 
polite message, explaining to the webmaster that I am a blind user, 
accessing their site using a screen reader.  I describe the problem(s) that 
I encountered on their site and suggest possible ways to eliminate the 
problem for future screen reader users.  I also include a link to the 
w3c.org site, which is a fantastic resource for web developers who want to 
ensure that their sites are accessible.

I also offer any assistance that I can provide in testing the changes that 
they might make to improve the situation.  Most of the time, I get no 
response, but on rare occasions, I do get a reply, stating that they never 
considered that a blind person would be accessing their site and that they 
will make every effort to make the suggested changes.  Those messages make 
me feel good. In any case, I believe that the more of us who take the time 
to let web site owners know that screen reader users are using their sites, 
the more likely the chance that they will take accessibility and usability 
into consideration when making changes to their site.

John

  - Original Message - 
  From: Lisa
  To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 9:07 AM
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] forms mode question


  Hello everyone,
  I was on the bmg music web site, and I wanted to fill out the form to join 
the club.  I went into forms mode so that I could type the information into 
the edit boxes.  For example where I needed to type in my first name jaws 
just says edit.  I tabbed through all of the edit boxes and it just says 
edit.  I went out of forms mode and looked around on the page, and then jaws 
would read first name, last name, mailing address etc.  It is very 
frustrating to have to go in and out of forms mode just to get something 
filled out.  Is there any way to get jaws to read this information while I'm 
in forms mode?  I hope I have explained this well enough, so you all will 
understand what I'm trying too do.  I am running jaws 6.0, and I have 
windows XP home.  Any help with this would be greatly appreciated!
  Take care,
  Lisa






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[JAWS-Users] Re: forms mode question

2007-05-21 Thread Flor Lynch

This is often the case, so that, many times on Web pages, it is better to 
enter Forms mode only briefly before exiting it and reading on to the next 
edit, and entering again, etc.  Just hit the PC cursor to leave forms Mode.

- Original Message - 
From: "Lisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 2:07 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] forms mode question


Hello everyone,
I was on the bmg music web site, and I wanted to fill out the form to join 
the club.  I went into forms mode so that I could type the information into 
the edit boxes.  For example where I needed to type in my first name jaws 
just says edit.  I tabbed through all of the edit boxes and it just says 
edit.  I went out of forms mode and looked around on the page, and then jaws 
would read first name, last name, mailing address etc.  It is very 
frustrating to have to go in and out of forms mode just to get something 
filled out.  Is there any way to get jaws to read this information while I'm 
in forms mode?  I hope I have explained this well enough, so you all will 
understand what I'm trying too do.  I am running jaws 6.0, and I have 
windows XP home.  Any help with this would be greatly appreciated!
Take care,
Lisa



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[JAWS-Users] Re: forms mode question

2007-05-21 Thread Job Hunter
Hi Lisa:

This is a very common problem encountered by screen reader users, if the form 
is not coded with the proper HTML labeling techniques.

What I usually do when I come across these issues with any web site that I find 
difficult or cumbersome to use:

Find the link to send feedback or contact the webmaster.  I then pen a polite 
message, explaining to the webmaster that I am a blind user, accessing their 
site using a screen reader.  I describe the problem(s) that I encountered on 
their site and suggest possible ways to eliminate the problem for future screen 
reader users.  I also include a link to the w3c.org site, which is a fantastic 
resource for web developers who want to ensure that their sites are accessible.

I also offer any assistance that I can provide in testing the changes that they 
might make to improve the situation.  Most of the time, I get no response, but 
on rare occasions, I do get a reply, stating that they never considered that a 
blind person would be accessing their site and that they will make every effort 
to make the suggested changes.  Those messages make me feel good. In any case, 
I believe that the more of us who take the time to let web site owners know 
that screen reader users are using their sites, the more likely the chance that 
they will take accessibility and usability into consideration when making 
changes to their site.

John
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lisa 
  To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 9:07 AM
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] forms mode question


  Hello everyone,
  I was on the bmg music web site, and I wanted to fill out the form to join 
the club.  I went into forms mode so that I could type the information into the 
edit boxes.  For example where I needed to type in my first name jaws just says 
edit.  I tabbed through all of the edit boxes and it just says edit.  I went 
out of forms mode and looked around on the page, and then jaws would read first 
name, last name, mailing address etc.  It is very frustrating to have to go in 
and out of forms mode just to get something filled out.  Is there any way to 
get jaws to read this information while I'm in forms mode?  I hope I have 
explained this well enough, so you all will understand what I'm trying too do.  
I am running jaws 6.0, and I have windows XP home.  Any help with this would be 
greatly appreciated!
  Take care,
  Lisa

  

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[JAWS-Users] Re: forms mode question

2007-05-21 Thread Ricque

Hi Lisa,
I too, had this same problem about 3 years ago when I signed up with BMG 
Music.
As David and Alma already said, it is the way the webpage was written.
I haven't tried this, but I am wondering if custom labels can be applied 
here.
Of course, in this particular case, once you've filled the form out, you 
won't have to do it again.
The site is very Jaws friendly, and I have set a few place markers to 
navigate it more quickly.
HTH,
Richard Justice
www.blind-computing.com
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From: "Lisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 9:07 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] forms mode question


Hello everyone,
I was on the bmg music web site, and I wanted to fill out the form to join 
the club.  I went into forms mode so that I could type the information into 
the edit boxes.  For example where I needed to type in my first name jaws 
just says edit.  I tabbed through all of the edit boxes and it just says 
edit.  I went out of forms mode and looked around on the page, and then jaws 
would read first name, last name, mailing address etc.  It is very 
frustrating to have to go in and out of forms mode just to get something 
filled out.  Is there any way to get jaws to read this information while I'm 
in forms mode?  I hope I have explained this well enough, so you all will 
understand what I'm trying too do.  I am running jaws 6.0, and I have 
windows XP home.  Any help with this would be greatly appreciated!
Take care,
Lisa



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[JAWS-Users] Re: forms mode question

2007-05-21 Thread Alma
Lisa,

I don't have any suggestions, but did want to let you know that I, too, am 
having this problem.  I think it may depend on the particular website and how 
it's set up, etc.

This is a very resourceful group of people, though, so I'm sure both of us will 
get some answers.

Alma
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lisa 
  To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 8:07 AM
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] forms mode question


  Hello everyone,
  I was on the bmg music web site, and I wanted to fill out the form to join 
the club.  I went into forms mode so that I could type the information into the 
edit boxes.  For example where I needed to type in my first name jaws just says 
edit.  I tabbed through all of the edit boxes and it just says edit.  I went 
out of forms mode and looked around on the page, and then jaws would read first 
name, last name, mailing address etc.  It is very frustrating to have to go in 
and out of forms mode just to get something filled out.  Is there any way to 
get jaws to read this information while I'm in forms mode?  I hope I have 
explained this well enough, so you all will understand what I'm trying too do.  
I am running jaws 6.0, and I have windows XP home.  Any help with this would be 
greatly appreciated!
  Take care,
  Lisa

  

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[JAWS-Users] Re: forms mode question

2007-05-21 Thread David A Ferrin

In most cases it's not really a jaws issue so far as that goes. It has to do 
with the authoring practices of the web designer who setup the page. I know 
it is frustrating but often enough that is our lot in life. The main thing 
is that you know the work around to employ.
David Ferrin
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- Original Message - 
From: "Lisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 9:07 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] forms mode question


Hello everyone,
I was on the bmg music web site, and I wanted to fill out the form to join 
the club.  I went into forms mode so that I could type the information into 
the edit boxes.  For example where I needed to type in my first name jaws 
just says edit.  I tabbed through all of the edit boxes and it just says 
edit.  I went out of forms mode and looked around on the page, and then jaws 
would read first name, last name, mailing address etc.  It is very 
frustrating to have to go in and out of forms mode just to get something 
filled out.  Is there any way to get jaws to read this information while I'm 
in forms mode?  I hope I have explained this well enough, so you all will 
understand what I'm trying too do.  I am running jaws 6.0, and I have 
windows XP home.  Any help with this would be greatly appreciated!
Take care,
Lisa



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