[JAWS-Users] Re: new laptop with a few quirks

2007-05-08 Thread Denny Huff
What do you have your laptop set to do when you close the lid?
Hibernate?  Standby? Or no action?
 
 
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Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] new laptop with a few quirks


Hi all.  For those who read this on the other jaws list, ignore please.  I
bought a del inspiron fifteen zero one laptop with two gigs of ram and an
eighty gig hard drive.  I don't know the display of my graphics card, sory
meant name of it.  Jaws if I close my lid, and ope it will not read the
system tray or other list views like winamp's equalizer.  Someone on another
list told me to set the display to the classic theme, but if I do that,
wpn't it screw with how the start menu works, and other things like that?
Also when jaws does do this to me, I find that outlook express is effected
and the mail fields aren't read like two edit bcc edit.  Hope someone can
make sense of this, and I'm sorry but right now have no spell check on this
yet.
Thanks,
Siobhan




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[JAWS-Users] Re: new laptop with a few quirks

2007-05-08 Thread Siobhan
Hi.  I have it set to do nothing, no background and no screen saver either.  It 
also acts strange if I open a window on the Net and backspace it says blank.  
Leave it to me to get the how the heck did you do that? problem.  Thanks for 
the help.
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  From: Denny Huff 
  To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 5:29 AM
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: new laptop with a few quirks


  What do you have your laptop set to do when you close the lid?
  Hibernate?  Standby? Or no action?


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Siobhan
  Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:44 AM
  To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] new laptop with a few quirks


  Hi all.  For those who read this on the other jaws list, ignore please.  I 
bought a del inspiron fifteen zero one laptop with two gigs of ram and an 
eighty gig hard drive.  I don't know the display of my graphics card, sory 
meant name of it.  Jaws if I close my lid, and ope it will not read the system 
tray or other list views like winamp's equalizer.  Someone on another list told 
me to set the display to the classic theme, but if I do that, wpn't it screw 
with how the start menu works, and other things like that?  Also when jaws does 
do this to me, I find that outlook express is effected and the mail fields 
aren't read like two edit bcc edit.  Hope someone can make sense of this, and 
I'm sorry but right now have no spell check on this yet.
  Thanks,
  Siobhan
  

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[JAWS-Users] Re: new laptop with a few quirks

2007-05-08 Thread Siobhan
It had started that when I got the pc, I think that's what it was set to so I 
had changed it to not hibernate.  also just another question, I don't leave the 
laptop on, like I did with desktop i figured that wasn't ok for it.  Am I 
right?  Thanks for the hlp.
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  To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 8:31 AM
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: new laptop with a few quirks


  What happens if you set it to hibernate when you close the lid?


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  To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: new laptop with a few quirks


  Hi.  I have it set to do nothing, no background and no screen saver either.  
It also acts strange if I open a window on the Net and backspace it says blank. 
 Leave it to me to get the how the heck did you do that? problem.  Thanks for 
the help.
- Original Message - 
From: Denny Huff 
To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 5:29 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: new laptop with a few quirks


What do you have your laptop set to do when you close the lid?
Hibernate?  Standby? Or no action?


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From: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
Of Siobhan
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] new laptop with a few quirks


Hi all.  For those who read this on the other jaws list, ignore please.  I 
bought a del inspiron fifteen zero one laptop with two gigs of ram and an 
eighty gig hard drive.  I don't know the display of my graphics card, sory 
meant name of it.  Jaws if I close my lid, and ope it will not read the system 
tray or other list views like winamp's equalizer.  Someone on another list told 
me to set the display to the classic theme, but if I do that, wpn't it screw 
with how the start menu works, and other things like that?  Also when jaws does 
do this to me, I find that outlook express is effected and the mail fields 
aren't read like two edit bcc edit.  Hope someone can make sense of this, and 
I'm sorry but right now have no spell check on this yet.
Thanks,
Siobhan


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[JAWS-Users] Re: new laptop with a few quirks

2007-05-08 Thread Victor Gouveia
Hi Siobhan,

Just some things I thought about reading your various messages to the list.

What kind of screen to you have on it?

Is it a TFT active matrix display, or an LCD?

The reason I ask is that some laptop screen produce static, and so when you 
close the lid, it will occasionally interfere with the smooth running of the 
touch pad.

The other thing I'm wondering is if you have a touch pad, or a track ball, or a 
touch stick to control your mouse?

I find that a great number of my focus issues for Jaws on my laptops are due to 
the mouse being too sensitive, and so, when I run my hand over it, it picks up 
the heat of my fingers and voila, the window I was working with suddenly looses 
focus and I have to alt+tab over to the window I was working with.

When I bought this new laptop, I thought it was so cool.  It had a 15 inch wide 
screen display, a full size keyboard, with out the number pad, which is the way 
I wanted it, by the way, and hot buttons running up and down the sides of it 
that would give me full control of any DVD's I played on this puppy.

Until I found out that the track point mouse, and touch pad, have a feature for 
sighted people that would become the bane of my existence.

Basically, not only is it heat activated, the sides have scroll capabilities, 
and touch capabilities, as well.

So, what does this mean to the average blind person?

Try typing with fat hands on the home row, and not touching the touch pad, or 
any part of it.

I guarantee you, that on a laptop, it can't be done.  Grin.

Anyway, it might be that your graphical user interfaces, like your mouse touch 
pad and the like, are getting in the way of your access technology.  The other 
thing is that your laptop might have some perks designed for the sighted user 
that may be running in the background.  These can also get in the way of 
certain focus issues.

You might want to get a copy of your laptop's user's manual, read it through 
and see if there are things that are on by default, things that you may want to 
disable so that it isn't taking focus away from the virtual viewer.  Another 
thing that I do, and this is because I've been around computers for a long 
time, I go through the control panel and see what's in there, and look through 
the items in there to see if there are some things that I don't recognize.  
Just to give you a quick example, this new laptop has a feature called Virtual 
sound, that comes on by default fresh out of the box.  Essentially, what 
happens is when ever some type of media file is played, whether video or sound, 
the computers speakers suddenly double in size and you feel like you're in a 
high definition stereo sound system and theatre.

Great if you're listening to music or movies all the time, but when the 
slightest sound, like a window opening or an error sound comes on, suddenly 
Jaws sounds like he's falling down a hole, or yelling from the other side of a 
concert hall.

Suffice it to say, he sounds really stupid when ever this virtual sound feature 
is active, so I have to disable it when I'm not listening to any music, movies 
or what ever.

Like I said, it's the little things and perks for the sighted user that suppose 
to impress them, but ends up getting in the way of the assistive technology 
that bothers us.

Anyway, what ever the problem is, I hope you find it soon, and you can enjoy 
that sweet laptop.

Victor
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[JAWS-Users] Re: new laptop with a few quirks

2007-05-08 Thread Maria Campbell
Victor is right about all the fancy stuff for the sighted on laptops that get 
in the way for us blind folks.  I have disabled the virtual sound as well as 
the touch pad. 


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  - Original Message - 
  From: Victor Gouveia 
  To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:51 AM
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: new laptop with a few quirks


  Hi Siobhan,

  Just some things I thought about reading your various messages to the list.

  What kind of screen to you have on it?

  Is it a TFT active matrix display, or an LCD?

  The reason I ask is that some laptop screen produce static, and so when you 
close the lid, it will occasionally interfere with the smooth running of the 
touch pad.

  The other thing I'm wondering is if you have a touch pad, or a track ball, or 
a touch stick to control your mouse?

  I find that a great number of my focus issues for Jaws on my laptops are due 
to the mouse being too sensitive, and so, when I run my hand over it, it picks 
up the heat of my fingers and voila, the window I was working with suddenly 
looses focus and I have to alt+tab over to the window I was working with.

  When I bought this new laptop, I thought it was so cool.  It had a 15 inch 
wide screen display, a full size keyboard, with out the number pad, which is 
the way I wanted it, by the way, and hot buttons running up and down the sides 
of it that would give me full control of any DVD's I played on this puppy.

  Until I found out that the track point mouse, and touch pad, have a feature 
for sighted people that would become the bane of my existence.

  Basically, not only is it heat activated, the sides have scroll capabilities, 
and touch capabilities, as well.

  So, what does this mean to the average blind person?

  Try typing with fat hands on the home row, and not touching the touch pad, or 
any part of it.

  I guarantee you, that on a laptop, it can't be done.  Grin.

  Anyway, it might be that your graphical user interfaces, like your mouse 
touch pad and the like, are getting in the way of your access technology.  The 
other thing is that your laptop might have some perks designed for the sighted 
user that may be running in the background.  These can also get in the way of 
certain focus issues.

  You might want to get a copy of your laptop's user's manual, read it through 
and see if there are things that are on by default, things that you may want to 
disable so that it isn't taking focus away from the virtual viewer.  Another 
thing that I do, and this is because I've been around computers for a long 
time, I go through the control panel and see what's in there, and look through 
the items in there to see if there are some things that I don't recognize.  
Just to give you a quick example, this new laptop has a feature called Virtual 
sound, that comes on by default fresh out of the box.  Essentially, what 
happens is when ever some type of media file is played, whether video or sound, 
the computers speakers suddenly double in size and you feel like you're in a 
high definition stereo sound system and theatre.

  Great if you're listening to music or movies all the time, but when the 
slightest sound, like a window opening or an error sound comes on, suddenly 
Jaws sounds like he's falling down a hole, or yelling from the other side of a 
concert hall.

  Suffice it to say, he sounds really stupid when ever this virtual sound 
feature is active, so I have to disable it when I'm not listening to any music, 
movies or what ever.

  Like I said, it's the little things and perks for the sighted user that 
suppose to impress them, but ends up getting in the way of the assistive 
technology that bothers us.

  Anyway, what ever the problem is, I hope you find it soon, and you can enjoy 
that sweet laptop.

  Victor

  

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[JAWS-Users] Re: new laptop with a few quirks

2007-05-08 Thread Siobhan
Hi Victor, Maria and all.  For now, I just deal with what i have, it's annoying 
but i'm not about to go and screw with things, hat's the main reason I bought 
this laptop, because I got cocky in the desktop's registry and killed something 
so powerful in jaws seven one, that not only could eight not work right, but 
seven one kept giving me a this package can't be opened verrify you have the 
right to open it or something of that nature.  I do have a touch pad, it has 
two what look like volume buttons below it, I stay away from those.  Other 
thenthat, it doesn't really mess with anything to bad.  Also I will look up the 
usuer's guyde but anyone know how to find out what model I have?  I'm not quite 
sure.  Forgive the speling please, I need a spel check on here.  Though I'd 
glad i went from chractrs for two days to none, when jaws types, which is what 
I want, I type to fast for jaws to know what i'm sayng smile.  Thanks very much 
everyone, I just want to love this laptop for awhile, not totally kill it.  
Although I wil I bet, grin.
Siobhan
  - Original Message - 
  From: Victor Gouveia 
  To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:51 AM
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: new laptop with a few quirks


  Hi Siobhan,

  Just some things I thought about reading your various messages to the list.

  What kind of screen to you have on it?

  Is it a TFT active matrix display, or an LCD?

  The reason I ask is that some laptop screen produce static, and so when you 
close the lid, it will occasionally interfere with the smooth running of the 
touch pad.

  The other thing I'm wondering is if you have a touch pad, or a track ball, or 
a touch stick to control your mouse?

  I find that a great number of my focus issues for Jaws on my laptops are due 
to the mouse being too sensitive, and so, when I run my hand over it, it picks 
up the heat of my fingers and voila, the window I was working with suddenly 
looses focus and I have to alt+tab over to the window I was working with.

  When I bought this new laptop, I thought it was so cool.  It had a 15 inch 
wide screen display, a full size keyboard, with out the number pad, which is 
the way I wanted it, by the way, and hot buttons running up and down the sides 
of it that would give me full control of any DVD's I played on this puppy.

  Until I found out that the track point mouse, and touch pad, have a feature 
for sighted people that would become the bane of my existence.

  Basically, not only is it heat activated, the sides have scroll capabilities, 
and touch capabilities, as well.

  So, what does this mean to the average blind person?

  Try typing with fat hands on the home row, and not touching the touch pad, or 
any part of it.

  I guarantee you, that on a laptop, it can't be done.  Grin.

  Anyway, it might be that your graphical user interfaces, like your mouse 
touch pad and the like, are getting in the way of your access technology.  The 
other thing is that your laptop might have some perks designed for the sighted 
user that may be running in the background.  These can also get in the way of 
certain focus issues.

  You might want to get a copy of your laptop's user's manual, read it through 
and see if there are things that are on by default, things that you may want to 
disable so that it isn't taking focus away from the virtual viewer.  Another 
thing that I do, and this is because I've been around computers for a long 
time, I go through the control panel and see what's in there, and look through 
the items in there to see if there are some things that I don't recognize.  
Just to give you a quick example, this new laptop has a feature called Virtual 
sound, that comes on by default fresh out of the box.  Essentially, what 
happens is when ever some type of media file is played, whether video or sound, 
the computers speakers suddenly double in size and you feel like you're in a 
high definition stereo sound system and theatre.

  Great if you're listening to music or movies all the time, but when the 
slightest sound, like a window opening or an error sound comes on, suddenly 
Jaws sounds like he's falling down a hole, or yelling from the other side of a 
concert hall.

  Suffice it to say, he sounds really stupid when ever this virtual sound 
feature is active, so I have to disable it when I'm not listening to any music, 
movies or what ever.

  Like I said, it's the little things and perks for the sighted user that 
suppose to impress them, but ends up getting in the way of the assistive 
technology that bothers us.

  Anyway, what ever the problem is, I hope you find it soon, and you can enjoy 
that sweet laptop.

  Victor

  

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[JAWS-Users] Re: new laptop with a few quirks

2007-05-08 Thread Victor Gouveia
Hi Siobhan,

On David's site:

www.jaws-users.com

David has a program called Belarc Advisor.

This program, once installed, will give you everything you wanted to know about 
your computer, laptop or desktop, and more you didn't want to know.

It's very easy to install, and once installed, it gives you all the 
information, right down to the model number, and serial number, assuming you 
have the original installation package that came with the machine.

In other words, no re-formats or anything like that.

Once you get the machine's model number, just zip off to the Dell website, and 
download the manual.

My advice is to open the manual up in it's original form, which, if I know 
Dell, is in PDF format, then convert the file into html.

This is best for long files of this type, as things may come up while you're 
reading the manual, so you'll have to come back to it.

In that particular instance, you can just place a placemarker on the page, and 
come back to it later by pressing one key.

Just something to consider.

Victor
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[JAWS-Users] Re: new laptop with a few quirks

2007-05-08 Thread Reese

Hi list:

I know this has been asked and answered before however, I need to know now.

What is the difference between stand by, hibernate and sleep mode? I have a 
laptop with all of these features and don't understand the purpose of them. 
Thanks!

Reese


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[JAWS-Users] Re: new laptop with a few quirks

2007-05-07 Thread Cohn, Jonathan C [IT]
Do you have an external display connected to your computer?  My laptop is 
connected to an external display that has a higher resolution then
my laptop LCD display, and when I change to the external display I get symptoms 
like this unless the pixel settings are set the same on both the External and 
Internal displays.
 
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From: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Siobhan
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] new laptop with a few quirks


Hi all.  For those who read this on the other jaws list, ignore please.  I 
bought a del inspiron fifteen zero one laptop with two gigs of ram and an 
eighty gig hard drive.  I don't know the display of my graphics card, sory 
meant name of it.  Jaws if I close my lid, and ope it will not read the system 
tray or other list views like winamp's equalizer.  Someone on another list told 
me to set the display to the classic theme, but if I do that, wpn't it screw 
with how the start menu works, and other things like that?  Also when jaws does 
do this to me, I find that outlook express is effected and the mail fields 
aren't read like two edit bcc edit.  Hope someone can make sense of this, and 
I'm sorry but right now have no spell check on this yet.
Thanks,
Siobhan




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