[JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems

2007-04-25 Thread Reese

Well, I spent a couple of days trying to install JFW on a vista machine 
without much success.  Kept getting JFW display error messages.

Until someone pointed out you must first turn off user accounts.  After 
that, JFW installed successfully.  Please do save this tip if anyone out 
there has any plans on upgrading to vista.

Reese

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[JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems

2007-04-21 Thread Rick Harmon

Hi,

Well let me put in my two sense.  This message is bunk.  Maybe Chris was 
unfortunate enough to talk to someone at Microsoft that didn't have a clue 
as to what they were talking about.  I've already talked to several people 
that including myself that are running Vista that have done multiple 
installs of their product whether it's retail or OEM.  I haven't installed 
my product here more than once but believe the sources that I have talked to 
today.  If anyone else has proof against what I am saying here really needs 
to step forward with the proof they have.  I talked to someone on blind tech 
that clearly stated that this is not true in any way.

Rick


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- Original Message - 
From: David A Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:13 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] vista problems



 Now folks I really don't want a major debate on this subject but Victor 
 has
 brought it to my attention and so I'm sharing part of his message with the
 list. The point I'm trying to make by sending this out to the list is just
 this, do your research and make sure what you're getting in to if an 
 upgrade
 to Vista is on the horizon for you. The information he has supplied to me 
 is
 that this message has come from a gentleman who does have credibility 
 among
 the blindness community, his name will appear at the top of the message. I
 personally can neither confirm or deny any of what is to follow, like I 
 said
 be on your toes is all. My tag line is a direct quote from Smart Computing
 magazine.
 David Ferrin
 Never purchase the first version of anything. This message brought to you 
 by
 Windows Vista. Smart Computing March 2007
 ***
 Chris Gilland,

 OK, guys get a load a this: I have Vista a bit back on my desktop. I

 tried earlier tonight to re-install it, as I had a system crash a while 
 back
 and

 had to format and have had xp on here since.

 Well, I tried to enter the key at least 5 times and it wouldn't take. I 
 call
 Microsoft and told them

 what was going on. Ya know what they told me?

 Well Mister Gilland, because you have already installed it once, you can't
 ever do so again.  The architect of Vista won't let you.

 I then said, Ow'w'w Ka?

 Sow'w'w'w'w then'n'n'n... l'l'l'like wuhhduhh I do!

 They then said easy. I can transfer you to customer service and you can 
 buy
 another copy and we'll ship it to ya.

 I told them no, that they didn't follow, I didn't need another license, it
 just wasn't taking my key.

 They said that's cause you've already activated it once.

 I then said well I crashed it was outta my control.

 Well, sir, we can get you up and going once you buy it again.

 Why should us consumers have to buy Vista again, just to suit their 
 greeting
 money hunger over just a stupid pc format! That to me is absurd! If that

 is how they wanna do business, then I say forget it, I'll stay with xp.

 Before yall ask: yes, I did try to speak with a supervisor, and they said
 the same thing. I asked if I could at least read them the key I got and

 let them make sure it's a valid key and that I wrote it down correctly, 
 and
 they did confirm it to be correct. I dono what to do. That was $199 now 
 out

 the window.


  


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[JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems

2007-04-21 Thread David A Ferrin

Thank you for your input, I've heard of Chris myself but as I stated 
couldn't confirm or deny any of it. Never the less I believe that enough 
light has been let in to this topic for sure.
David Ferrin
Never purchase the first version of anything. This message brought to you by 
Windows Vista. Smart Computing March 2007
- Original Message - 
From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:36 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems



Hi,

Well let me put in my two sense.  This message is bunk.  Maybe Chris was
unfortunate enough to talk to someone at Microsoft that didn't have a clue
as to what they were talking about.  I've already talked to several people
that including myself that are running Vista that have done multiple
installs of their product whether it's retail or OEM.  I haven't installed
my product here more than once but believe the sources that I have talked to
today.  If anyone else has proof against what I am saying here really needs
to step forward with the proof they have.  I talked to someone on blind tech
that clearly stated that this is not true in any way.

Rick


===

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- Original Message - 
From: David A Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:13 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] vista problems



 Now folks I really don't want a major debate on this subject but Victor
 has
 brought it to my attention and so I'm sharing part of his message with the
 list. The point I'm trying to make by sending this out to the list is just
 this, do your research and make sure what you're getting in to if an
 upgrade
 to Vista is on the horizon for you. The information he has supplied to me
 is
 that this message has come from a gentleman who does have credibility
 among
 the blindness community, his name will appear at the top of the message. I
 personally can neither confirm or deny any of what is to follow, like I
 said
 be on your toes is all. My tag line is a direct quote from Smart Computing
 magazine.
 David Ferrin
 Never purchase the first version of anything. This message brought to you
 by
 Windows Vista. Smart Computing March 2007
 ***
 Chris Gilland,

 OK, guys get a load a this: I have Vista a bit back on my desktop. I

 tried earlier tonight to re-install it, as I had a system crash a while
 back
 and

 had to format and have had xp on here since.

 Well, I tried to enter the key at least 5 times and it wouldn't take. I
 call
 Microsoft and told them

 what was going on. Ya know what they told me?

 Well Mister Gilland, because you have already installed it once, you can't
 ever do so again.  The architect of Vista won't let you.

 I then said, Ow'w'w Ka?

 Sow'w'w'w'w then'n'n'n... l'l'l'like wuhhduhh I do!

 They then said easy. I can transfer you to customer service and you can
 buy
 another copy and we'll ship it to ya.

 I told them no, that they didn't follow, I didn't need another license, it
 just wasn't taking my key.

 They said that's cause you've already activated it once.

 I then said well I crashed it was outta my control.

 Well, sir, we can get you up and going once you buy it again.

 Why should us consumers have to buy Vista again, just to suit their
 greeting
 money hunger over just a stupid pc format! That to me is absurd! If that

 is how they wanna do business, then I say forget it, I'll stay with xp.

 Before yall ask: yes, I did try to speak with a supervisor, and they said
 the same thing. I asked if I could at least read them the key I got and

 let them make sure it's a valid key and that I wrote it down correctly,
 and
 they did confirm it to be correct. I dono what to do. That was $199 now
 out

 the window.


 





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[JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems

2007-04-21 Thread Rick Harmon

Hi David,

I tend to believe the people I know that are actually using Vista since 
they'd be the best people to ask such a question to.  They assure me that 
not only have they installed Vista more than once on the machine, also that 
MS isn't placing any such restrictions on anyone.  As I said before, if 
anyone has any provable information to the contrary then please step forward 
with it.  There are already enough scared people in the blind community over 
Vista to start with and all this message does is to further scare the 
community with wild rumors.

Thanks,

Rick


===

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- Original Message - 
From: David A Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:42 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems



 Thank you for your input, I've heard of Chris myself but as I stated
 couldn't confirm or deny any of it. Never the less I believe that enough
 light has been let in to this topic for sure.
 David Ferrin
 Never purchase the first version of anything. This message brought to you 
 by
 Windows Vista. Smart Computing March 2007
 - Original Message - 
 From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:36 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems



 Hi,

 Well let me put in my two sense.  This message is bunk.  Maybe Chris was
 unfortunate enough to talk to someone at Microsoft that didn't have a clue
 as to what they were talking about.  I've already talked to several people
 that including myself that are running Vista that have done multiple
 installs of their product whether it's retail or OEM.  I haven't installed
 my product here more than once but believe the sources that I have talked 
 to
 today.  If anyone else has proof against what I am saying here really 
 needs
 to step forward with the proof they have.  I talked to someone on blind 
 tech
 that clearly stated that this is not true in any way.

 Rick


 ===

 Visit my webpage and podcast feed at www.blind-geek-zone.net


 - Original Message - 
 From: David A Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:13 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] vista problems



 Now folks I really don't want a major debate on this subject but Victor
 has
 brought it to my attention and so I'm sharing part of his message with 
 the
 list. The point I'm trying to make by sending this out to the list is 
 just
 this, do your research and make sure what you're getting in to if an
 upgrade
 to Vista is on the horizon for you. The information he has supplied to me
 is
 that this message has come from a gentleman who does have credibility
 among
 the blindness community, his name will appear at the top of the message. 
 I
 personally can neither confirm or deny any of what is to follow, like I
 said
 be on your toes is all. My tag line is a direct quote from Smart 
 Computing
 magazine.
 David Ferrin
 Never purchase the first version of anything. This message brought to you
 by
 Windows Vista. Smart Computing March 2007
 ***
 Chris Gilland,

 OK, guys get a load a this: I have Vista a bit back on my desktop. I

 tried earlier tonight to re-install it, as I had a system crash a while
 back
 and

 had to format and have had xp on here since.

 Well, I tried to enter the key at least 5 times and it wouldn't take. I
 call
 Microsoft and told them

 what was going on. Ya know what they told me?

 Well Mister Gilland, because you have already installed it once, you 
 can't
 ever do so again.  The architect of Vista won't let you.

 I then said, Ow'w'w Ka?

 Sow'w'w'w'w then'n'n'n... l'l'l'like wuhhduhh I do!

 They then said easy. I can transfer you to customer service and you can
 buy
 another copy and we'll ship it to ya.

 I told them no, that they didn't follow, I didn't need another license, 
 it
 just wasn't taking my key.

 They said that's cause you've already activated it once.

 I then said well I crashed it was outta my control.

 Well, sir, we can get you up and going once you buy it again.

 Why should us consumers have to buy Vista again, just to suit their
 greeting
 money hunger over just a stupid pc format! That to me is absurd! If that

 is how they wanna do business, then I say forget it, I'll stay with xp.

 Before yall ask: yes, I did try to speak with a supervisor, and they said
 the same thing. I asked if I could at least read them the key I got and

 let them make sure it's a valid key and that I wrote it down correctly,
 and
 they did confirm it to be correct. I dono what to do. That was $199 now
 out

 the window.


 





  


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[JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems

2007-04-21 Thread Maria Campbell

Has  anyone ever called social security or some other place and gotten two 
different answers from two different people?
I can't believe that this message is pure rumor or simply made up.
It could be that he got bad information from tech support.


Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Always remember to forget the troubles that pass your way;
BUT NEVER forget the blessings that come each day.
- Original Message - 
From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:04 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems



 Hi David,

 I tend to believe the people I know that are actually using Vista since
 they'd be the best people to ask such a question to.  They assure me that
 not only have they installed Vista more than once on the machine, also 
 that
 MS isn't placing any such restrictions on anyone.  As I said before, if
 anyone has any provable information to the contrary then please step 
 forward
 with it.  There are already enough scared people in the blind community 
 over
 Vista to start with and all this message does is to further scare the
 community with wild rumors.

 Thanks,

 Rick


 ===

 Visit my webpage and podcast feed at www.blind-geek-zone.net


 - Original Message - 
 From: David A Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:42 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems



 Thank you for your input, I've heard of Chris myself but as I stated
 couldn't confirm or deny any of it. Never the less I believe that enough
 light has been let in to this topic for sure.
 David Ferrin
 Never purchase the first version of anything. This message brought to you
 by
 Windows Vista. Smart Computing March 2007
 - Original Message - 
 From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:36 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems



 Hi,

 Well let me put in my two sense.  This message is bunk.  Maybe Chris was
 unfortunate enough to talk to someone at Microsoft that didn't have a 
 clue
 as to what they were talking about.  I've already talked to several 
 people
 that including myself that are running Vista that have done multiple
 installs of their product whether it's retail or OEM.  I haven't 
 installed
 my product here more than once but believe the sources that I have talked
 to
 today.  If anyone else has proof against what I am saying here really
 needs
 to step forward with the proof they have.  I talked to someone on blind
 tech
 that clearly stated that this is not true in any way.

 Rick


 ===

 Visit my webpage and podcast feed at www.blind-geek-zone.net


 - Original Message - 
 From: David A Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:13 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] vista problems



 Now folks I really don't want a major debate on this subject but Victor
 has
 brought it to my attention and so I'm sharing part of his message with
 the
 list. The point I'm trying to make by sending this out to the list is
 just
 this, do your research and make sure what you're getting in to if an
 upgrade
 to Vista is on the horizon for you. The information he has supplied to 
 me
 is
 that this message has come from a gentleman who does have credibility
 among
 the blindness community, his name will appear at the top of the message.
 I
 personally can neither confirm or deny any of what is to follow, like I
 said
 be on your toes is all. My tag line is a direct quote from Smart
 Computing
 magazine.
 David Ferrin
 Never purchase the first version of anything. This message brought to 
 you
 by
 Windows Vista. Smart Computing March 2007
 ***
 Chris Gilland,

 OK, guys get a load a this: I have Vista a bit back on my desktop. I

 tried earlier tonight to re-install it, as I had a system crash a while
 back
 and

 had to format and have had xp on here since.

 Well, I tried to enter the key at least 5 times and it wouldn't take. I
 call
 Microsoft and told them

 what was going on. Ya know what they told me?

 Well Mister Gilland, because you have already installed it once, you
 can't
 ever do so again.  The architect of Vista won't let you.

 I then said, Ow'w'w Ka?

 Sow'w'w'w'w then'n'n'n... l'l'l'like wuhhduhh I do!

 They then said easy. I can transfer you to customer service and you can
 buy
 another copy and we'll ship it to ya.

 I told them no, that they didn't follow, I didn't need another license,
 it
 just wasn't taking my key.

 They said that's cause you've already activated it once.

 I then said well I crashed it was outta my control.

 Well, sir, we can get you up and going once you buy it again.

 Why should us consumers have to buy Vista again, just to suit their
 greeting
 money hunger over just a stupid pc format! That to me is absurd! If that

 is how they wanna do business, then I say forget it, I'll stay with xp

[JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems

2007-04-21 Thread Rick Harmon

I agree entirely.  chris didn't make the original post up.  But he got very 
wrong info from MS.  I'm not faulting Chris at all.  I'm faulting the people 
that took the message from the Google Blind Vista list and started spreading 
it around without verifying the info first.

Rick


===

Visit my webpage and podcast feed at www.blind-geek-zone.net


- Original Message - 
From: Maria Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 9:46 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems



 Has  anyone ever called social security or some other place and gotten two
 different answers from two different people?
 I can't believe that this message is pure rumor or simply made up.
 It could be that he got bad information from tech support.


 Sunny Day
 Maria Campbell
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Always remember to forget the troubles that pass your way;
 BUT NEVER forget the blessings that come each day.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:04 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems



 Hi David,

 I tend to believe the people I know that are actually using Vista since
 they'd be the best people to ask such a question to.  They assure me that
 not only have they installed Vista more than once on the machine, also
 that
 MS isn't placing any such restrictions on anyone.  As I said before, if
 anyone has any provable information to the contrary then please step
 forward
 with it.  There are already enough scared people in the blind community
 over
 Vista to start with and all this message does is to further scare the
 community with wild rumors.

 Thanks,

 Rick


 ===

 Visit my webpage and podcast feed at www.blind-geek-zone.net


 - Original Message - 
 From: David A Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:42 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems



 Thank you for your input, I've heard of Chris myself but as I stated
 couldn't confirm or deny any of it. Never the less I believe that enough
 light has been let in to this topic for sure.
 David Ferrin
 Never purchase the first version of anything. This message brought to 
 you
 by
 Windows Vista. Smart Computing March 2007
 - Original Message - 
 From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:36 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems



 Hi,

 Well let me put in my two sense.  This message is bunk.  Maybe Chris was
 unfortunate enough to talk to someone at Microsoft that didn't have a
 clue
 as to what they were talking about.  I've already talked to several
 people
 that including myself that are running Vista that have done multiple
 installs of their product whether it's retail or OEM.  I haven't
 installed
 my product here more than once but believe the sources that I have 
 talked
 to
 today.  If anyone else has proof against what I am saying here really
 needs
 to step forward with the proof they have.  I talked to someone on blind
 tech
 that clearly stated that this is not true in any way.

 Rick


 ===

 Visit my webpage and podcast feed at www.blind-geek-zone.net


 - Original Message - 
 From: David A Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:13 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] vista problems



 Now folks I really don't want a major debate on this subject but Victor
 has
 brought it to my attention and so I'm sharing part of his message with
 the
 list. The point I'm trying to make by sending this out to the list is
 just
 this, do your research and make sure what you're getting in to if an
 upgrade
 to Vista is on the horizon for you. The information he has supplied to
 me
 is
 that this message has come from a gentleman who does have credibility
 among
 the blindness community, his name will appear at the top of the 
 message.
 I
 personally can neither confirm or deny any of what is to follow, like I
 said
 be on your toes is all. My tag line is a direct quote from Smart
 Computing
 magazine.
 David Ferrin
 Never purchase the first version of anything. This message brought to
 you
 by
 Windows Vista. Smart Computing March 2007
 ***
 Chris Gilland,

 OK, guys get a load a this: I have Vista a bit back on my desktop. I

 tried earlier tonight to re-install it, as I had a system crash a while
 back
 and

 had to format and have had xp on here since.

 Well, I tried to enter the key at least 5 times and it wouldn't take. I
 call
 Microsoft and told them

 what was going on. Ya know what they told me?

 Well Mister Gilland, because you have already installed it once, you
 can't
 ever do so again.  The architect of Vista won't let you.

 I then said, Ow'w'w Ka?

 Sow'w'w'w'w then'n'n'n... l'l'l'like wuhhduhh I do!

 They then said easy. I can transfer you to customer service and you can

[JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems

2007-04-21 Thread David A Ferrin

At least we've made it to the bottom of this whole thing. I figured that the 
best way to find out was simply to post it because somebody on here would 
know.Well enough is enough, thanks again to Rick for setting the record 
straight.
David Ferrin
Never purchase the first version of anything. This message brought to you by 
Windows Vista. Smart Computing March 2007
- Original Message - 
From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 10:01 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems



I agree entirely.  chris didn't make the original post up.  But he got very
wrong info from MS.  I'm not faulting Chris at all.  I'm faulting the people
that took the message from the Google Blind Vista list and started spreading
it around without verifying the info first.

Rick


===

Visit my webpage and podcast feed at www.blind-geek-zone.net


- Original Message - 
From: Maria Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 9:46 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems



 Has  anyone ever called social security or some other place and gotten two
 different answers from two different people?
 I can't believe that this message is pure rumor or simply made up.
 It could be that he got bad information from tech support.


 Sunny Day
 Maria Campbell
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Always remember to forget the troubles that pass your way;
 BUT NEVER forget the blessings that come each day.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:04 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems



 Hi David,

 I tend to believe the people I know that are actually using Vista since
 they'd be the best people to ask such a question to.  They assure me that
 not only have they installed Vista more than once on the machine, also
 that
 MS isn't placing any such restrictions on anyone.  As I said before, if
 anyone has any provable information to the contrary then please step
 forward
 with it.  There are already enough scared people in the blind community
 over
 Vista to start with and all this message does is to further scare the
 community with wild rumors.

 Thanks,

 Rick


 ===

 Visit my webpage and podcast feed at www.blind-geek-zone.net


 - Original Message - 
 From: David A Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:42 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems



 Thank you for your input, I've heard of Chris myself but as I stated
 couldn't confirm or deny any of it. Never the less I believe that enough
 light has been let in to this topic for sure.
 David Ferrin
 Never purchase the first version of anything. This message brought to
 you
 by
 Windows Vista. Smart Computing March 2007
 - Original Message - 
 From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:36 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems



 Hi,

 Well let me put in my two sense.  This message is bunk.  Maybe Chris was
 unfortunate enough to talk to someone at Microsoft that didn't have a
 clue
 as to what they were talking about.  I've already talked to several
 people
 that including myself that are running Vista that have done multiple
 installs of their product whether it's retail or OEM.  I haven't
 installed
 my product here more than once but believe the sources that I have
 talked
 to
 today.  If anyone else has proof against what I am saying here really
 needs
 to step forward with the proof they have.  I talked to someone on blind
 tech
 that clearly stated that this is not true in any way.

 Rick


 ===

 Visit my webpage and podcast feed at www.blind-geek-zone.net


 - Original Message - 
 From: David A Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:13 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] vista problems



 Now folks I really don't want a major debate on this subject but Victor
 has
 brought it to my attention and so I'm sharing part of his message with
 the
 list. The point I'm trying to make by sending this out to the list is
 just
 this, do your research and make sure what you're getting in to if an
 upgrade
 to Vista is on the horizon for you. The information he has supplied to
 me
 is
 that this message has come from a gentleman who does have credibility
 among
 the blindness community, his name will appear at the top of the
 message.
 I
 personally can neither confirm or deny any of what is to follow, like I
 said
 be on your toes is all. My tag line is a direct quote from Smart
 Computing
 magazine.
 David Ferrin
 Never purchase the first version of anything. This message brought to
 you
 by
 Windows Vista. Smart Computing March 2007
 ***
 Chris Gilland,

 OK, guys get a load a this: I have Vista a bit back on my desktop. I

 tried earlier tonight to re

[JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems

2007-04-21 Thread Jimmy Podsim





I agree, there are people out there who'd like all of us to run nothing
but Linux and my true belief is that this is where most of this trash
comes from. There are people who hate Microsoft because Bill Gates
and his people were smart enough to pass up apple who thought they were
kings and would stay that way. I find that jaws and vista work well
together even though it's a beta and I had some trouble installing it,
but now that it's running I'm not seeing what all the fuss is about.

Jimmy

ThunderBird email rocks!  

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Rick Harmon wrote:

  Hi David,

I tend to believe the people I know that are actually using Vista since 
they'd be the best people to ask such a question to.  They assure me that 
not only have they installed Vista more than once on the machine, also that 
MS isn't placing any such restrictions on anyone.  As I said before, if 
anyone has any provable information to the contrary then please step forward 
with it.  There are already enough scared people in the blind community over 
Vista to start with and all this message does is to further scare the 
community with wild rumors.

Thanks,

Rick


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- Original Message - 
From: "David A Ferrin" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:42 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems


  
  
Thank you for your input, I've heard of Chris myself but as I stated
couldn't confirm or deny any of it. Never the less I believe that enough
light has been let in to this topic for sure.
David Ferrin
Never purchase the first version of anything. This message brought to you 
by
Windows Vista. Smart Computing March 2007
- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Harmon" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:36 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems



Hi,

Well let me put in my two sense.  This message is bunk.  Maybe Chris was
unfortunate enough to talk to someone at Microsoft that didn't have a clue
as to what they were talking about.  I've already talked to several people
that including myself that are running Vista that have done multiple
installs of their product whether it's retail or OEM.  I haven't installed
my product here more than once but believe the sources that I have talked 
to
today.  If anyone else has proof against what I am saying here really 
needs
to step forward with the proof they have.  I talked to someone on blind 
tech
that clearly stated that this is not true in any way.

Rick


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- Original Message - 
From: "David A Ferrin" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:13 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] vista problems




  Now folks I really don't want a major debate on this subject but Victor
has
brought it to my attention and so I'm sharing part of his message with 
the
list. The point I'm trying to make by sending this out to the list is 
just
this, do your research and make sure what you're getting in to if an
upgrade
to Vista is on the horizon for you. The information he has supplied to me
is
that this message has come from a gentleman who does have credibility
among
the blindness community, his name will appear at the top of the message. 
I
personally can neither confirm or deny any of what is to follow, like I
said
be on your toes is all. My tag line is a direct quote from Smart 
Computing
magazine.
David Ferrin
Never purchase the first version of anything. This message brought to you
by
Windows Vista. Smart Computing March 2007
***
Chris Gilland,

OK, guys get a load a this: I have Vista a bit back on my desktop. I

tried earlier tonight to re-install it, as I had a system crash a while
back
and

had to format and have had xp on here since.

Well, I tried to enter the key at least 5 times and it wouldn't take. I
call
Microsoft and told them

what was going on. Ya know what they told me?

Well Mister Gilland, because you have already installed it once, you 
can't
ever do so again.  The architect of Vista won't let you.

I then said, Ow'w'w Ka?

Sow'w'w'w'w then'n'n'n... l'l'l'like wuhhduhh I do!

They then said easy. I can transfer you to customer service and you can
buy
another copy and we'll ship it to ya.

I told them no, that they didn't follow, I didn't need another license, 
it
just wasn't taking my key.

They said that's cause you've already activated it once.

I then said well I crashed it was outta my control.

Well, sir, we can get you up and going once you buy it again.

Why should us consumers have to buy Vista again, just to suit their
greeting
money hunger over just a stupid pc format! That to me is absurd! If that

is how they wanna do business, then I say forget it, I'll stay