[JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems
Well, I spent a couple of days trying to install JFW on a vista machine without much success. Kept getting JFW display error messages. Until someone pointed out you must first turn off user accounts. After that, JFW installed successfully. Please do save this tip if anyone out there has any plans on upgrading to vista. Reese For discount travel and no hassles making your future reservations, check out DestianationsUnlimited travel. http://destianationsunlimited.globaltravel.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems
Hi, Well let me put in my two sense. This message is bunk. Maybe Chris was unfortunate enough to talk to someone at Microsoft that didn't have a clue as to what they were talking about. I've already talked to several people that including myself that are running Vista that have done multiple installs of their product whether it's retail or OEM. I haven't installed my product here more than once but believe the sources that I have talked to today. If anyone else has proof against what I am saying here really needs to step forward with the proof they have. I talked to someone on blind tech that clearly stated that this is not true in any way. Rick === Visit my webpage and podcast feed at www.blind-geek-zone.net - Original Message - From: David A Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:13 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] vista problems Now folks I really don't want a major debate on this subject but Victor has brought it to my attention and so I'm sharing part of his message with the list. The point I'm trying to make by sending this out to the list is just this, do your research and make sure what you're getting in to if an upgrade to Vista is on the horizon for you. The information he has supplied to me is that this message has come from a gentleman who does have credibility among the blindness community, his name will appear at the top of the message. I personally can neither confirm or deny any of what is to follow, like I said be on your toes is all. My tag line is a direct quote from Smart Computing magazine. David Ferrin Never purchase the first version of anything. This message brought to you by Windows Vista. Smart Computing March 2007 *** Chris Gilland, OK, guys get a load a this: I have Vista a bit back on my desktop. I tried earlier tonight to re-install it, as I had a system crash a while back and had to format and have had xp on here since. Well, I tried to enter the key at least 5 times and it wouldn't take. I call Microsoft and told them what was going on. Ya know what they told me? Well Mister Gilland, because you have already installed it once, you can't ever do so again. The architect of Vista won't let you. I then said, Ow'w'w Ka? Sow'w'w'w'w then'n'n'n... l'l'l'like wuhhduhh I do! They then said easy. I can transfer you to customer service and you can buy another copy and we'll ship it to ya. I told them no, that they didn't follow, I didn't need another license, it just wasn't taking my key. They said that's cause you've already activated it once. I then said well I crashed it was outta my control. Well, sir, we can get you up and going once you buy it again. Why should us consumers have to buy Vista again, just to suit their greeting money hunger over just a stupid pc format! That to me is absurd! If that is how they wanna do business, then I say forget it, I'll stay with xp. Before yall ask: yes, I did try to speak with a supervisor, and they said the same thing. I asked if I could at least read them the key I got and let them make sure it's a valid key and that I wrote it down correctly, and they did confirm it to be correct. I dono what to do. That was $199 now out the window. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems
Thank you for your input, I've heard of Chris myself but as I stated couldn't confirm or deny any of it. Never the less I believe that enough light has been let in to this topic for sure. David Ferrin Never purchase the first version of anything. This message brought to you by Windows Vista. Smart Computing March 2007 - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:36 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems Hi, Well let me put in my two sense. This message is bunk. Maybe Chris was unfortunate enough to talk to someone at Microsoft that didn't have a clue as to what they were talking about. I've already talked to several people that including myself that are running Vista that have done multiple installs of their product whether it's retail or OEM. I haven't installed my product here more than once but believe the sources that I have talked to today. If anyone else has proof against what I am saying here really needs to step forward with the proof they have. I talked to someone on blind tech that clearly stated that this is not true in any way. Rick === Visit my webpage and podcast feed at www.blind-geek-zone.net - Original Message - From: David A Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:13 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] vista problems Now folks I really don't want a major debate on this subject but Victor has brought it to my attention and so I'm sharing part of his message with the list. The point I'm trying to make by sending this out to the list is just this, do your research and make sure what you're getting in to if an upgrade to Vista is on the horizon for you. The information he has supplied to me is that this message has come from a gentleman who does have credibility among the blindness community, his name will appear at the top of the message. I personally can neither confirm or deny any of what is to follow, like I said be on your toes is all. My tag line is a direct quote from Smart Computing magazine. David Ferrin Never purchase the first version of anything. This message brought to you by Windows Vista. Smart Computing March 2007 *** Chris Gilland, OK, guys get a load a this: I have Vista a bit back on my desktop. I tried earlier tonight to re-install it, as I had a system crash a while back and had to format and have had xp on here since. Well, I tried to enter the key at least 5 times and it wouldn't take. I call Microsoft and told them what was going on. Ya know what they told me? Well Mister Gilland, because you have already installed it once, you can't ever do so again. The architect of Vista won't let you. I then said, Ow'w'w Ka? Sow'w'w'w'w then'n'n'n... l'l'l'like wuhhduhh I do! They then said easy. I can transfer you to customer service and you can buy another copy and we'll ship it to ya. I told them no, that they didn't follow, I didn't need another license, it just wasn't taking my key. They said that's cause you've already activated it once. I then said well I crashed it was outta my control. Well, sir, we can get you up and going once you buy it again. Why should us consumers have to buy Vista again, just to suit their greeting money hunger over just a stupid pc format! That to me is absurd! If that is how they wanna do business, then I say forget it, I'll stay with xp. Before yall ask: yes, I did try to speak with a supervisor, and they said the same thing. I asked if I could at least read them the key I got and let them make sure it's a valid key and that I wrote it down correctly, and they did confirm it to be correct. I dono what to do. That was $199 now out the window. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems
Hi David, I tend to believe the people I know that are actually using Vista since they'd be the best people to ask such a question to. They assure me that not only have they installed Vista more than once on the machine, also that MS isn't placing any such restrictions on anyone. As I said before, if anyone has any provable information to the contrary then please step forward with it. There are already enough scared people in the blind community over Vista to start with and all this message does is to further scare the community with wild rumors. Thanks, Rick === Visit my webpage and podcast feed at www.blind-geek-zone.net - Original Message - From: David A Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:42 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems Thank you for your input, I've heard of Chris myself but as I stated couldn't confirm or deny any of it. Never the less I believe that enough light has been let in to this topic for sure. David Ferrin Never purchase the first version of anything. This message brought to you by Windows Vista. Smart Computing March 2007 - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:36 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems Hi, Well let me put in my two sense. This message is bunk. Maybe Chris was unfortunate enough to talk to someone at Microsoft that didn't have a clue as to what they were talking about. I've already talked to several people that including myself that are running Vista that have done multiple installs of their product whether it's retail or OEM. I haven't installed my product here more than once but believe the sources that I have talked to today. If anyone else has proof against what I am saying here really needs to step forward with the proof they have. I talked to someone on blind tech that clearly stated that this is not true in any way. Rick === Visit my webpage and podcast feed at www.blind-geek-zone.net - Original Message - From: David A Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:13 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] vista problems Now folks I really don't want a major debate on this subject but Victor has brought it to my attention and so I'm sharing part of his message with the list. The point I'm trying to make by sending this out to the list is just this, do your research and make sure what you're getting in to if an upgrade to Vista is on the horizon for you. The information he has supplied to me is that this message has come from a gentleman who does have credibility among the blindness community, his name will appear at the top of the message. I personally can neither confirm or deny any of what is to follow, like I said be on your toes is all. My tag line is a direct quote from Smart Computing magazine. David Ferrin Never purchase the first version of anything. This message brought to you by Windows Vista. Smart Computing March 2007 *** Chris Gilland, OK, guys get a load a this: I have Vista a bit back on my desktop. I tried earlier tonight to re-install it, as I had a system crash a while back and had to format and have had xp on here since. Well, I tried to enter the key at least 5 times and it wouldn't take. I call Microsoft and told them what was going on. Ya know what they told me? Well Mister Gilland, because you have already installed it once, you can't ever do so again. The architect of Vista won't let you. I then said, Ow'w'w Ka? Sow'w'w'w'w then'n'n'n... l'l'l'like wuhhduhh I do! They then said easy. I can transfer you to customer service and you can buy another copy and we'll ship it to ya. I told them no, that they didn't follow, I didn't need another license, it just wasn't taking my key. They said that's cause you've already activated it once. I then said well I crashed it was outta my control. Well, sir, we can get you up and going once you buy it again. Why should us consumers have to buy Vista again, just to suit their greeting money hunger over just a stupid pc format! That to me is absurd! If that is how they wanna do business, then I say forget it, I'll stay with xp. Before yall ask: yes, I did try to speak with a supervisor, and they said the same thing. I asked if I could at least read them the key I got and let them make sure it's a valid key and that I wrote it down correctly, and they did confirm it to be correct. I dono what to do. That was $199 now out the window. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list
[JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems
Has anyone ever called social security or some other place and gotten two different answers from two different people? I can't believe that this message is pure rumor or simply made up. It could be that he got bad information from tech support. Sunny Day Maria Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Always remember to forget the troubles that pass your way; BUT NEVER forget the blessings that come each day. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:04 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems Hi David, I tend to believe the people I know that are actually using Vista since they'd be the best people to ask such a question to. They assure me that not only have they installed Vista more than once on the machine, also that MS isn't placing any such restrictions on anyone. As I said before, if anyone has any provable information to the contrary then please step forward with it. There are already enough scared people in the blind community over Vista to start with and all this message does is to further scare the community with wild rumors. Thanks, Rick === Visit my webpage and podcast feed at www.blind-geek-zone.net - Original Message - From: David A Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:42 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems Thank you for your input, I've heard of Chris myself but as I stated couldn't confirm or deny any of it. Never the less I believe that enough light has been let in to this topic for sure. David Ferrin Never purchase the first version of anything. This message brought to you by Windows Vista. Smart Computing March 2007 - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:36 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems Hi, Well let me put in my two sense. This message is bunk. Maybe Chris was unfortunate enough to talk to someone at Microsoft that didn't have a clue as to what they were talking about. I've already talked to several people that including myself that are running Vista that have done multiple installs of their product whether it's retail or OEM. I haven't installed my product here more than once but believe the sources that I have talked to today. If anyone else has proof against what I am saying here really needs to step forward with the proof they have. I talked to someone on blind tech that clearly stated that this is not true in any way. Rick === Visit my webpage and podcast feed at www.blind-geek-zone.net - Original Message - From: David A Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:13 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] vista problems Now folks I really don't want a major debate on this subject but Victor has brought it to my attention and so I'm sharing part of his message with the list. The point I'm trying to make by sending this out to the list is just this, do your research and make sure what you're getting in to if an upgrade to Vista is on the horizon for you. The information he has supplied to me is that this message has come from a gentleman who does have credibility among the blindness community, his name will appear at the top of the message. I personally can neither confirm or deny any of what is to follow, like I said be on your toes is all. My tag line is a direct quote from Smart Computing magazine. David Ferrin Never purchase the first version of anything. This message brought to you by Windows Vista. Smart Computing March 2007 *** Chris Gilland, OK, guys get a load a this: I have Vista a bit back on my desktop. I tried earlier tonight to re-install it, as I had a system crash a while back and had to format and have had xp on here since. Well, I tried to enter the key at least 5 times and it wouldn't take. I call Microsoft and told them what was going on. Ya know what they told me? Well Mister Gilland, because you have already installed it once, you can't ever do so again. The architect of Vista won't let you. I then said, Ow'w'w Ka? Sow'w'w'w'w then'n'n'n... l'l'l'like wuhhduhh I do! They then said easy. I can transfer you to customer service and you can buy another copy and we'll ship it to ya. I told them no, that they didn't follow, I didn't need another license, it just wasn't taking my key. They said that's cause you've already activated it once. I then said well I crashed it was outta my control. Well, sir, we can get you up and going once you buy it again. Why should us consumers have to buy Vista again, just to suit their greeting money hunger over just a stupid pc format! That to me is absurd! If that is how they wanna do business, then I say forget it, I'll stay with xp
[JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems
I agree entirely. chris didn't make the original post up. But he got very wrong info from MS. I'm not faulting Chris at all. I'm faulting the people that took the message from the Google Blind Vista list and started spreading it around without verifying the info first. Rick === Visit my webpage and podcast feed at www.blind-geek-zone.net - Original Message - From: Maria Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 9:46 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems Has anyone ever called social security or some other place and gotten two different answers from two different people? I can't believe that this message is pure rumor or simply made up. It could be that he got bad information from tech support. Sunny Day Maria Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Always remember to forget the troubles that pass your way; BUT NEVER forget the blessings that come each day. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:04 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems Hi David, I tend to believe the people I know that are actually using Vista since they'd be the best people to ask such a question to. They assure me that not only have they installed Vista more than once on the machine, also that MS isn't placing any such restrictions on anyone. As I said before, if anyone has any provable information to the contrary then please step forward with it. There are already enough scared people in the blind community over Vista to start with and all this message does is to further scare the community with wild rumors. Thanks, Rick === Visit my webpage and podcast feed at www.blind-geek-zone.net - Original Message - From: David A Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:42 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems Thank you for your input, I've heard of Chris myself but as I stated couldn't confirm or deny any of it. Never the less I believe that enough light has been let in to this topic for sure. David Ferrin Never purchase the first version of anything. This message brought to you by Windows Vista. Smart Computing March 2007 - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:36 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems Hi, Well let me put in my two sense. This message is bunk. Maybe Chris was unfortunate enough to talk to someone at Microsoft that didn't have a clue as to what they were talking about. I've already talked to several people that including myself that are running Vista that have done multiple installs of their product whether it's retail or OEM. I haven't installed my product here more than once but believe the sources that I have talked to today. If anyone else has proof against what I am saying here really needs to step forward with the proof they have. I talked to someone on blind tech that clearly stated that this is not true in any way. Rick === Visit my webpage and podcast feed at www.blind-geek-zone.net - Original Message - From: David A Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:13 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] vista problems Now folks I really don't want a major debate on this subject but Victor has brought it to my attention and so I'm sharing part of his message with the list. The point I'm trying to make by sending this out to the list is just this, do your research and make sure what you're getting in to if an upgrade to Vista is on the horizon for you. The information he has supplied to me is that this message has come from a gentleman who does have credibility among the blindness community, his name will appear at the top of the message. I personally can neither confirm or deny any of what is to follow, like I said be on your toes is all. My tag line is a direct quote from Smart Computing magazine. David Ferrin Never purchase the first version of anything. This message brought to you by Windows Vista. Smart Computing March 2007 *** Chris Gilland, OK, guys get a load a this: I have Vista a bit back on my desktop. I tried earlier tonight to re-install it, as I had a system crash a while back and had to format and have had xp on here since. Well, I tried to enter the key at least 5 times and it wouldn't take. I call Microsoft and told them what was going on. Ya know what they told me? Well Mister Gilland, because you have already installed it once, you can't ever do so again. The architect of Vista won't let you. I then said, Ow'w'w Ka? Sow'w'w'w'w then'n'n'n... l'l'l'like wuhhduhh I do! They then said easy. I can transfer you to customer service and you can
[JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems
At least we've made it to the bottom of this whole thing. I figured that the best way to find out was simply to post it because somebody on here would know.Well enough is enough, thanks again to Rick for setting the record straight. David Ferrin Never purchase the first version of anything. This message brought to you by Windows Vista. Smart Computing March 2007 - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 10:01 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems I agree entirely. chris didn't make the original post up. But he got very wrong info from MS. I'm not faulting Chris at all. I'm faulting the people that took the message from the Google Blind Vista list and started spreading it around without verifying the info first. Rick === Visit my webpage and podcast feed at www.blind-geek-zone.net - Original Message - From: Maria Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 9:46 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems Has anyone ever called social security or some other place and gotten two different answers from two different people? I can't believe that this message is pure rumor or simply made up. It could be that he got bad information from tech support. Sunny Day Maria Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Always remember to forget the troubles that pass your way; BUT NEVER forget the blessings that come each day. - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:04 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems Hi David, I tend to believe the people I know that are actually using Vista since they'd be the best people to ask such a question to. They assure me that not only have they installed Vista more than once on the machine, also that MS isn't placing any such restrictions on anyone. As I said before, if anyone has any provable information to the contrary then please step forward with it. There are already enough scared people in the blind community over Vista to start with and all this message does is to further scare the community with wild rumors. Thanks, Rick === Visit my webpage and podcast feed at www.blind-geek-zone.net - Original Message - From: David A Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:42 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems Thank you for your input, I've heard of Chris myself but as I stated couldn't confirm or deny any of it. Never the less I believe that enough light has been let in to this topic for sure. David Ferrin Never purchase the first version of anything. This message brought to you by Windows Vista. Smart Computing March 2007 - Original Message - From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:36 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems Hi, Well let me put in my two sense. This message is bunk. Maybe Chris was unfortunate enough to talk to someone at Microsoft that didn't have a clue as to what they were talking about. I've already talked to several people that including myself that are running Vista that have done multiple installs of their product whether it's retail or OEM. I haven't installed my product here more than once but believe the sources that I have talked to today. If anyone else has proof against what I am saying here really needs to step forward with the proof they have. I talked to someone on blind tech that clearly stated that this is not true in any way. Rick === Visit my webpage and podcast feed at www.blind-geek-zone.net - Original Message - From: David A Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:13 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] vista problems Now folks I really don't want a major debate on this subject but Victor has brought it to my attention and so I'm sharing part of his message with the list. The point I'm trying to make by sending this out to the list is just this, do your research and make sure what you're getting in to if an upgrade to Vista is on the horizon for you. The information he has supplied to me is that this message has come from a gentleman who does have credibility among the blindness community, his name will appear at the top of the message. I personally can neither confirm or deny any of what is to follow, like I said be on your toes is all. My tag line is a direct quote from Smart Computing magazine. David Ferrin Never purchase the first version of anything. This message brought to you by Windows Vista. Smart Computing March 2007 *** Chris Gilland, OK, guys get a load a this: I have Vista a bit back on my desktop. I tried earlier tonight to re
[JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems
I agree, there are people out there who'd like all of us to run nothing but Linux and my true belief is that this is where most of this trash comes from. There are people who hate Microsoft because Bill Gates and his people were smart enough to pass up apple who thought they were kings and would stay that way. I find that jaws and vista work well together even though it's a beta and I had some trouble installing it, but now that it's running I'm not seeing what all the fuss is about. Jimmy ThunderBird email rocks! http://www.kd5qhh.com http://www.myspace.com/jimmypodsim MSN Messenger, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rick Harmon wrote: Hi David, I tend to believe the people I know that are actually using Vista since they'd be the best people to ask such a question to. They assure me that not only have they installed Vista more than once on the machine, also that MS isn't placing any such restrictions on anyone. As I said before, if anyone has any provable information to the contrary then please step forward with it. There are already enough scared people in the blind community over Vista to start with and all this message does is to further scare the community with wild rumors. Thanks, Rick === Visit my webpage and podcast feed at www.blind-geek-zone.net - Original Message - From: "David A Ferrin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:42 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems Thank you for your input, I've heard of Chris myself but as I stated couldn't confirm or deny any of it. Never the less I believe that enough light has been let in to this topic for sure. David Ferrin Never purchase the first version of anything. This message brought to you by Windows Vista. Smart Computing March 2007 - Original Message - From: "Rick Harmon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:36 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: vista problems Hi, Well let me put in my two sense. This message is bunk. Maybe Chris was unfortunate enough to talk to someone at Microsoft that didn't have a clue as to what they were talking about. I've already talked to several people that including myself that are running Vista that have done multiple installs of their product whether it's retail or OEM. I haven't installed my product here more than once but believe the sources that I have talked to today. If anyone else has proof against what I am saying here really needs to step forward with the proof they have. I talked to someone on blind tech that clearly stated that this is not true in any way. Rick === Visit my webpage and podcast feed at www.blind-geek-zone.net - Original Message - From: "David A Ferrin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:13 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] vista problems Now folks I really don't want a major debate on this subject but Victor has brought it to my attention and so I'm sharing part of his message with the list. The point I'm trying to make by sending this out to the list is just this, do your research and make sure what you're getting in to if an upgrade to Vista is on the horizon for you. The information he has supplied to me is that this message has come from a gentleman who does have credibility among the blindness community, his name will appear at the top of the message. I personally can neither confirm or deny any of what is to follow, like I said be on your toes is all. My tag line is a direct quote from Smart Computing magazine. David Ferrin Never purchase the first version of anything. This message brought to you by Windows Vista. Smart Computing March 2007 *** Chris Gilland, OK, guys get a load a this: I have Vista a bit back on my desktop. I tried earlier tonight to re-install it, as I had a system crash a while back and had to format and have had xp on here since. Well, I tried to enter the key at least 5 times and it wouldn't take. I call Microsoft and told them what was going on. Ya know what they told me? Well Mister Gilland, because you have already installed it once, you can't ever do so again. The architect of Vista won't let you. I then said, Ow'w'w Ka? Sow'w'w'w'w then'n'n'n... l'l'l'like wuhhduhh I do! They then said easy. I can transfer you to customer service and you can buy another copy and we'll ship it to ya. I told them no, that they didn't follow, I didn't need another license, it just wasn't taking my key. They said that's cause you've already activated it once. I then said well I crashed it was outta my control. Well, sir, we can get you up and going once you buy it again. Why should us consumers have to buy Vista again, just to suit their greeting money hunger over just a stupid pc format! That to me is absurd! If that is how they wanna do business, then I say forget it, I'll stay