Re: [JAWS-Users] resources for your child-Re: Most commonly used programs
hi, being a writer myself (or at least trying to be one) I found your questions interesting, I have run across a few applications that were said to assist in writing, but so far none of them have worked well with jaws, the one in the kit you were referred to earlier might work, and I have one here I still need to try, and will let you know if it works. for those of you scratching your heads and wondering what were talking about software was developed that was similar to the early programming flow chart templates for, as quoted on line: Mindmapping is the process of drawing up diagrams that show relations between various ideas, tasks or information. it also is used to develop characters, plot lines, and to layout and keep the book organized for easy assemble into a manuscript or synopsis. I myself have found no accessible mindmapping software but I would think something could be adapted or made up that could handle this aspect of writing, html is the answer I found for myself since it allows me to branch and side note at will without crippling the main flow ability of the document. and so far I have been able to use HJ pad and/or Jarte for my main page writing while notepad and/or note tab html editor are my main mapping tools. if I find a writers assistant that will actually work well I'll definitely let you know about it for your son! take care, inthane . Author: The Scilore Dimension, book 1; Dragons Pyire a fan fiction Palladium(C) based RPG -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ruchi Patil Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 8:39 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] resources for your child-Re: Most commonly usedprograms Thanks John for your very valuable inputs. We are using a lot of Assistive technology, almost all that is available for the blind. We use products from aph and Marvelsoft and hentermath. We use devices from humanware, Plextalk. We also use daisy books from bookshare and audible books from audible on these devices. He plays a lot of interactive fiction and jim kitchens and VIP game zone games. Also, will check the jaws interface for software that are compatible with jaws. But I also notice that scripts get written to make more and more products available to the blind- are there any ready reckoner guides for the same. I live in India, and Assistive technology experts are not too many here. There are a few but with not all the tools. In fact, since my son is not using Braille yet, the challenge becomes a little bigger. Most other kids here use Braille instructional materials. I had been looking for word prediction software for him, but found none. In fact, the local language support here is too weak. I also tried to look for creative writing tools and mind mapping tools but nothing is available. Would you know of any resources. I will be only too overjoyed to find some online training resources. Since I am from the engineering background, I will be able to take it up myself and be in a better position to serve my son. If you could guide me onto that, it would be great. Once again, thanks for taking time off to reply in such detail. Sent from my iPhone On 07-Aug-2012, at 8:39 PM, John R. Vaughn jrvaugh...@comcast.net wrote: Ruchi , The jaws help system lists programs that work with Jaws as well as tips on using the program. Go into the jaws interface (insert key plus letter j). The press alt key plus h for help and explore the various training materials in this menu. In addition, I would talk to your child's vision teacher and see if that person has assistive technology resources that you can meet with as needed. Also, your state may have a state department that deals with instructional materials for children with a disability. And finally, there are qualified blind teachers/trainers out there that offer on line training that you can talk to the vision teacher/special education director about and try and get the school system to fund such training. No doubt sighted kids are being trained how to use various programs, and if the school does not have the resource to teach your child, then ask why the school cannot provide your child with the needed resources. The law requires the school system to provide your child with the needed resources. John - Original Message - From: Ruchi Patil ruchi_pa...@samruddha.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 9:26 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Most commonly used programs Hi, what are the programs, most commonly used by the blind, that are completely accessible with jaws? My 9 year old son uses ms word and PowerPoint at school along with the other programs made specifically for the blind. But they have computer training at school till grade 8, and I am not sure how many of those he may be able to use? Next semester they have publisher, then coreldraw. If
[JAWS-Users] closing IE pages
Not sure what happened. I have several pages opened when IE starts. alt F4 use to ask if I wanted to close all or just the page that I was on. Now it closes all pages without a prompt. Where do I go to change this to give the prompt. using win 7 home, latest jaws and IE 9. --- Please visit my home page, it is motivational, educational, inspirational with a touch of humor. There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind. http://www.LennyMcHugh.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] resources for your child-Re: Most commonly used programs
Thanks Inthane... Will be very happy to receive inputs from you, on this... But yesterday, when I was trying to use smart art in word and in particular draw a hierarchy diagram, I realized it was a mind map of some sort. Creation of bubbles at different levels was possible with keyboard alone and therefore completely accessible to the blind. However, when I went to read this diagram, jaws simply read it as graphic of size xyz. I wish there was a way that jaws would read these diagrams as figure 1, 2 or 3, similar to tables. And then when we go to a particular diagram, it should read it correctly as in, hierarchy diagram 1 - level 0 history , level 1 - Egypt, level 2 - dates, level 2 - events, level 2 - places, level 1 - Greece, and so on and so forth. We should also have commands to move between levels, and when at a level, read all nodes attached to it, the higher level and the lower levels. Do you think this should be possible with scripts, since during creation, all data is available...I don't understand scripts, I want to take up a tutorial and learn, in the meanwhile, I will be happy to hear from you. Sent from my iPhone On 08-Aug-2012, at 3:32 PM, inthaneelf inthane...@roadrunner.com wrote: hi, being a writer myself (or at least trying to be one) I found your questions interesting, I have run across a few applications that were said to assist in writing, but so far none of them have worked well with jaws, the one in the kit you were referred to earlier might work, and I have one here I still need to try, and will let you know if it works. for those of you scratching your heads and wondering what were talking about software was developed that was similar to the early programming flow chart templates for, as quoted on line: Mindmapping is the process of drawing up diagrams that show relations between various ideas, tasks or information. it also is used to develop characters, plot lines, and to layout and keep the book organized for easy assemble into a manuscript or synopsis. I myself have found no accessible mindmapping software but I would think something could be adapted or made up that could handle this aspect of writing, html is the answer I found for myself since it allows me to branch and side note at will without crippling the main flow ability of the document. and so far I have been able to use HJ pad and/or Jarte for my main page writing while notepad and/or note tab html editor are my main mapping tools. if I find a writers assistant that will actually work well I'll definitely let you know about it for your son! take care, inthane .. Author: The Scilore Dimension, book 1; Dragons Pyire a fan fiction Palladium(C) based RPG -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ruchi Patil Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 8:39 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] closing IE pages
You can also use Ctrl F4to close current page Al -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:35 AM To: JFW List Subject: [JAWS-Users] closing IE pages Not sure what happened. I have several pages opened when IE starts. alt F4 use to ask if I wanted to close all or just the page that I was on. Now it closes all pages without a prompt. Where do I go to change this to give the prompt. using win 7 home, latest jaws and IE 9. --- Please visit my home page, it is motivational, educational, inspirational with a touch of humor. There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind. http://www.LennyMcHugh.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] closing IE pages
thanks, that worked like a charm. I could not remember where it was located. I am at the point where my wife and I have a half of memory between us. -Original Message- From: John R Vaughn Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 8:44 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] closing IE pages Lenny, While on a web page in IE 9, alt for menu, t for tools and O for options. Now on the general page, tab over to tab browsing settings and enter. As you tab through the dialogue box, the second control warn me when closing web pages, on my computer is the check box to check or uncheck as desired. Mine is checked so I get the warning option of which tab to close when exiting an IE web page. John -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:35 AM To: JFW List Subject: [JAWS-Users] closing IE pages Not sure what happened. I have several pages opened when IE starts. alt F4 use to ask if I wanted to close all or just the page that I was on. Now it closes all pages without a prompt. Where do I go to change this to give the prompt. using win 7 home, latest jaws and IE 9. --- Please visit my home page, it is motivational, educational, inspirational with a touch of humor. There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind. http://www.LennyMcHugh.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] closing IE pages
I also use control W. -Original Message- From: Alan Robbins Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:49 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] closing IE pages You can also use Ctrl F4to close current page Al -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:35 AM To: JFW List Subject: [JAWS-Users] closing IE pages Not sure what happened. I have several pages opened when IE starts. alt F4 use to ask if I wanted to close all or just the page that I was on. Now it closes all pages without a prompt. Where do I go to change this to give the prompt. using win 7 home, latest jaws and IE 9. --- Please visit my home page, it is motivational, educational, inspirational with a touch of humor. There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind. http://www.LennyMcHugh.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] closing IE pages
Hello, While in ie9: choose tools: choose internet options: you will be placed or start at the General Options tab. carefully notice each option on the General options tab. while looking for: Tab Browsing settings Enter on tab browser settings tab until you find: Warn me when closing multable tabs: (first or second option) make sure it is checked continue until you reach ok enter on ok and close internet options. HTH - Original Message - From: Alan Robbins arobb...@nycap.rr.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] closing IE pages You can also use Ctrl F4to close current page Al -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:35 AM To: JFW List Subject: [JAWS-Users] closing IE pages Not sure what happened. I have several pages opened when IE starts. alt F4 use to ask if I wanted to close all or just the page that I was on. Now it closes all pages without a prompt. Where do I go to change this to give the prompt. using win 7 home, latest jaws and IE 9. --- Please visit my home page, it is motivational, educational, inspirational with a touch of humor. There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind. http://www.LennyMcHugh.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ [:/:] T.J. McElroy Email: tj.mcel...@comcast.net phone: 317.867.0277 We can not control the wind, but we can adjust our sails. [:\:] For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] closing IE pages
Hi. To close a tab press control f4. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:35 AM To: JFW List Subject: [JAWS-Users] closing IE pages Not sure what happened. I have several pages opened when IE starts. alt F4 use to ask if I wanted to close all or just the page that I was on. Now it closes all pages without a prompt. Where do I go to change this to give the prompt. using win 7 home, latest jaws and IE 9. --- Please visit my home page, it is motivational, educational, inspirational with a touch of humor. There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind. http://www.LennyMcHugh.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Smartart
Hello Ruchi, It is possible to read the pyramid and cycle smart art with JAWS, albeit not easily or efficiently. Here are a couple things you might try. I am using Word 2010, JAWS 13 and Windows 7 64-bit so the following information is for Word 2010. If you move the PC cursor on to the object JAWS identifies it as a slash. You can select the object by using shift with right arrow key or by using CTRL+Shift+O to list objects and then using up or down arrow key to the one you want and pressing enter key. At this point you can add Alt text so the object will be better identified when moving the cursor on to it. If you want to do that then with the object selected press the application key or shift with F10 to bring up the context menu. Arrow down to the format text menu option and press enter key. Press the letter A until you get to the Alt text choice. Use tab key to move to the Title and Description fields and fill them in. Tab to OK and press spacebar. When you use CTRL+Shift+O to list the objects and use arrow keys in the list you should hear whatever you used as the description after adding the alternate text. After selecting the object by either using shift with right arrow or pressing enter on a choice in the list of objects obtained by using CTRL+Shift+O, use the application key to bring up the context menu. Use down arrow key to the menu item just under the change layout item. If it says show text then press enter key. If it says hide text checked then press enter key, press application key again without deselecting the object, use down arrow key and the show text option should be available. Press enter key. Sometimes, focus will move directly into the text pane but not very often. However, the text pane is shown as a dialog. You might need to route JAWS cursor to PC cursor, use down arrow until you hear the first part of the list of items, and then simulate the left mouse button click on the keyboard. Focus will then be in the list. After turning PC cursor back on you should then be able to use up and down arrow keys in the list of items and the levels should be announced. The first level is 0. To dismiss the text pane use Alt with spacebar and choose the Close menu item. This seems quite complicated. Being that it is possible to move into the text pane and hear the items read, I don't think that scripting and making the process more efficient would be too difficult. Perhaps even some VB code could be written to make it easier. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ruchi Patil Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 5:26 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Smartart Hi all, I am a new member to the group, and am a mother of a 9 year old totally blind bright kid. He has been a jaws user at various levels since the age of 4. In school he needs to make several diagrams and I was trying to use smart art for food cycle and pyramid diagram. I saw that it is pretty simple to create these diagrams using keyboard commands, and happens really beautifully. However, when I went to read the diagram, I found that jaws only said graphic of size? Does any version of jaws support such smart art reading as in table reading commands. Will jaws read as a food cycle- object 1 grass, object 2 rabbit, object 3 lion?? Was wondering since all data is available, since that's how we created it in the first place. Eager to hear from you. Thanks and regards, Ruchi Sent from my iPhone For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ From: ruchi_pa...@samruddha.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Smartart Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 05:26:05 -0700 Hi all, I am a new member to the group, and am a mother of a 9 year old totally blind bright kid. He has been a jaws user at various levels since the age of 4. In school he needs to make several diagrams and I was trying to use smart art for food cycle and pyramid diagram. I saw that it is pretty simple to create these diagrams using keyboard commands, and happens really beautifully. However, when I went to read the diagram, I found that jaws only said graphic of size? Does any version of jaws support such smart art reading as in table reading commands. Will jaws read as a food cycle- object 1 grass, object 2 rabbit, object 3 lion?? Was wondering since all data is available, since that's how we created it in the first place. Eager to hear from you. Thanks and regards, Ruchi Sent from my iPhone For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Preview pane in word 2010
Hi, Can anyone tell me how to turn off the Preview pane in word 2010 in the open dialog box? Thanks much Mitch For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Preview pane in word 2010
Hello Mitch, In the Word 2010 Open dialog box you can use Alt+P to turn on or off the preview pane. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of `myjaws52 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 5:56 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Preview pane in word 2010 Hi, Can anyone tell me how to turn off the Preview pane in word 2010 in the open dialog box? Thanks much Mitch For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] firefox and MLB
I am trying to listen to games on MLB with Firefox 3.6.13. The game I choose loads but I don't get any audio. If I switch to MLB audio using IE 8 it works just fine. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
