Re: [JAWS-Users] last version of JAWS that works with Windows XP

2016-02-01 Thread Mike B
The last version of Jaws to work with XP is Jaws 15.
Take care.
Mike
Global warming?  Most likely caused from hot air generated by politicians!
- Original Message - 
From: Mario
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] last version of JAWS that works with Windows XP


it's 15.


On 2/1/2016 8:18 AM, Rick Justice wrote:
> I guess a trip to the FS website would eliminate any doubt. smile
>
> HTH,
> Rick Justice
>
> Tomorrow's another day, another way!
> and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "David Ferrin" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 6:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] last version of JAWS that works with Windows XP
>
>
> I do believe it is JAWS 16.
>
> Naturally if I am found to be wrong I wish somebody will point that out.
> JAWS does not have a version that will work with 64 bit XP. In fact if
> memory serves no screen reader that I know of supports that platform.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Reed Poynter
> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 7:58 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] last version of JAWS that works with Windows XP
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> What is the latest version of JAWS that works with XP?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Reed
>
>
>
> When I go to the FS web site, it determines that my pc is a 64 bit machine
> and doesn't show me the earlier versions for XP.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Reed
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> David Ferrin
> You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help.
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
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>
>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] last version of JAWS that works with Windows XP

2016-02-01 Thread David Ferrin
I stand corrected.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from 
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
- Original Message - 
From: "Mike B" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] last version of JAWS that works with Windows XP


The last version of Jaws to work with XP is Jaws 15.
Take care.
Mike
Global warming?  Most likely caused from hot air generated by politicians!
- Original Message - 
From: Mario
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] last version of JAWS that works with Windows XP


it's 15.


On 2/1/2016 8:18 AM, Rick Justice wrote:
> I guess a trip to the FS website would eliminate any doubt. smile
>
> HTH,
> Rick Justice
>
> Tomorrow's another day, another way!
> and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "David Ferrin" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 6:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] last version of JAWS that works with Windows XP
>
>
> I do believe it is JAWS 16.
>
> Naturally if I am found to be wrong I wish somebody will point that out.
> JAWS does not have a version that will work with 64 bit XP. In fact if
> memory serves no screen reader that I know of supports that platform.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Reed Poynter
> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 7:58 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] last version of JAWS that works with Windows XP
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> What is the latest version of JAWS that works with XP?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Reed
>
>
>
> When I go to the FS web site, it determines that my pc is a 64 bit machine
> and doesn't show me the earlier versions for XP.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Reed
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> David Ferrin
> You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help.
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Caret browsing

2016-02-01 Thread Flor Lynch
The Route JAWS to PC keystroke is, Insert or JAWSKey Insert plus 
NumPadMinus; no ctrl key. (With the ctrl key, it's drag-and-drop - a whole 
other ball game.) However, it doesn't have the desired effect on Web pages - 
at least, in my experience of a sighted user trying to read what I was 
reading with JAWS. The caret browsing feature is not aimed for us; I think 
it interferes in some way with our navigation of pages, although it's been a 
while since I played with it to an extent. Best way to know is to try these 
things out  - trial and error - with a sighted companion. Perhaps the 
solution that'd suit the sighties most would be to turn off the virtual 
cursor with JAWSKey+z, and then use one of the two proposed 'solutions' - 
that would usually hamper our JAWS use on Web pages and with other similar 
environments.


-Original Message- 
From: Maria Campbell

Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 12:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Caret browsing

On the other JAWS user's list, we have been discussing how to get better
help from the sighted, when needed, while browsing with JAWS.  It has
been stated many times over, that under normal settings, sighted people
mostly can't tell where we are on a web page.
Two suggested remedies mentioned are caret browsing, invoked by f7, and
JAWS cursor follow PC cursor, invoked by pressing insert plus control
plus numpad minus.
I'd be interested to know if anyone has any other suggestions, or
knowledge of any harmful effects of these seemingly helpful, but not
widely known, features of JAWS.

--
Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know 
peace.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Caret browsing

2016-02-01 Thread Maria Campbell
I beg to differ, but on web pages pressing insert plus control plus 
numpad minus turns on JAWS cursor follows PC cursor.


Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
--Attributed to Jimi Hendrix

On 2/1/2016 7:06 PM, Flor Lynch wrote:
The Route JAWS to PC keystroke is, Insert or JAWSKey Insert plus 
NumPadMinus; no ctrl key. (With the ctrl key, it's drag-and-drop - a 
whole other ball game.) However, it doesn't have the desired effect on 
Web pages - at least, in my experience of a sighted user trying to 
read what I was reading with JAWS. The caret browsing feature is not 
aimed for us; I think it interferes in some way with our navigation of 
pages, although it's been a while since I played with it to an extent. 
Best way to know is to try these things out  - trial and error - with 
a sighted companion. Perhaps the solution that'd suit the sighties 
most would be to turn off the virtual cursor with JAWSKey+z, and then 
use one of the two proposed 'solutions' - that would usually hamper 
our JAWS use on Web pages and with other similar environments.


-Original Message- From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 12:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Caret browsing

On the other JAWS user's list, we have been discussing how to get better
help from the sighted, when needed, while browsing with JAWS.  It has
been stated many times over, that under normal settings, sighted people
mostly can't tell where we are on a web page.
Two suggested remedies mentioned are caret browsing, invoked by f7, and
JAWS cursor follow PC cursor, invoked by pressing insert plus control
plus numpad minus.
I'd be interested to know if anyone has any other suggestions, or
knowledge of any harmful effects of these seemingly helpful, but not
widely known, features of JAWS.




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Re: [JAWS-Users] Caret browsing

2016-02-01 Thread jeff
Pardon me,
The information you shared was incorrect.
Control + Insert + Numpad Minus

Is indeed the way to toggle tethering of the JAWS cursor to PC
Try it yourself

Drag N Drop is
Control + Insert + Left Mouse Button

HTH
jeff

Actually, try it yourself

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 6:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Caret browsing

The Route JAWS to PC keystroke is, Insert or JAWSKey Insert plus
NumPadMinus; no ctrl key. (With the ctrl key, it's drag-and-drop - a whole
other ball game.) However, it doesn't have the desired effect on Web pages -
at least, in my experience of a sighted user trying to read what I was
reading with JAWS. The caret browsing feature is not aimed for us; I think
it interferes in some way with our navigation of pages, although it's been a
while since I played with it to an extent. Best way to know is to try these
things out  - trial and error - with a sighted companion. Perhaps the
solution that'd suit the sighties most would be to turn off the virtual
cursor with JAWSKey+z, and then use one of the two proposed 'solutions' -
that would usually hamper our JAWS use on Web pages and with other similar
environments.

-Original Message-
From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 12:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Caret browsing

On the other JAWS user's list, we have been discussing how to get better
help from the sighted, when needed, while browsing with JAWS.  It has been
stated many times over, that under normal settings, sighted people mostly
can't tell where we are on a web page.
Two suggested remedies mentioned are caret browsing, invoked by f7, and JAWS
cursor follow PC cursor, invoked by pressing insert plus control plus numpad
minus.
I'd be interested to know if anyone has any other suggestions, or knowledge
of any harmful effects of these seemingly helpful, but not widely known,
features of JAWS.

--
Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know
peace.
--Attributed to Jimi Hendrix


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[JAWS-Users] Caret browsing

2016-02-01 Thread Maria Campbell
On the other JAWS user's list, we have been discussing how to get better 
help from the sighted, when needed, while browsing with JAWS.  It has 
been stated many times over, that under normal settings, sighted people 
mostly can't tell where we are on a web page.
Two suggested remedies mentioned are caret browsing, invoked by f7, and 
JAWS cursor follow PC cursor, invoked by pressing insert plus control 
plus numpad minus.
I'd be interested to know if anyone has any other suggestions, or 
knowledge of any harmful effects of these seemingly helpful, but not 
widely known, features of JAWS.


--
Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
--Attributed to Jimi Hendrix


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Caret browsing

2016-02-01 Thread Maria Campbell
Drag and drop, according to the search command feature on JAWS 17 is 
invoked with the control plus insert plus numpad slash.


Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
--Attributed to Jimi Hendrix

On 2/1/2016 7:06 PM, Flor Lynch wrote:
The Route JAWS to PC keystroke is, Insert or JAWSKey Insert plus 
NumPadMinus; no ctrl key. (With the ctrl key, it's drag-and-drop - a 
whole other ball game.) However, it doesn't have the desired effect on 
Web pages - at least, in my experience of a sighted user trying to 
read what I was reading with JAWS. The caret browsing feature is not 
aimed for us; I think it interferes in some way with our navigation of 
pages, although it's been a while since I played with it to an extent. 
Best way to know is to try these things out  - trial and error - with 
a sighted companion. Perhaps the solution that'd suit the sighties 
most would be to turn off the virtual cursor with JAWSKey+z, and then 
use one of the two proposed 'solutions' - that would usually hamper 
our JAWS use on Web pages and with other similar environments.


-Original Message- From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 12:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Caret browsing

On the other JAWS user's list, we have been discussing how to get better
help from the sighted, when needed, while browsing with JAWS.  It has
been stated many times over, that under normal settings, sighted people
mostly can't tell where we are on a web page.
Two suggested remedies mentioned are caret browsing, invoked by f7, and
JAWS cursor follow PC cursor, invoked by pressing insert plus control
plus numpad minus.
I'd be interested to know if anyone has any other suggestions, or
knowledge of any harmful effects of these seemingly helpful, but not
widely known, features of JAWS.




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Re: [JAWS-Users] Caret browsing

2016-02-01 Thread Mike B
Hi Flor,

The, control, insert / jaws key, + Jaws cursor / Numpad minus key toggles 
the Jaws cursor to follow the PC cursor.

Control, Insert, + Numpad slash is the drag & drop keystroke.
Take care.
Mike
Global warming?  Most likely caused from hot air generated by politicians!
- Original Message - 
From: Flor Lynch
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Caret browsing


The Route JAWS to PC keystroke is, Insert or JAWSKey Insert plus
NumPadMinus; no ctrl key. (With the ctrl key, it's drag-and-drop - a whole
other ball game.) However, it doesn't have the desired effect on Web pages -
at least, in my experience of a sighted user trying to read what I was
reading with JAWS. The caret browsing feature is not aimed for us; I think
it interferes in some way with our navigation of pages, although it's been a
while since I played with it to an extent. Best way to know is to try these
things out  - trial and error - with a sighted companion. Perhaps the
solution that'd suit the sighties most would be to turn off the virtual
cursor with JAWSKey+z, and then use one of the two proposed 'solutions' -
that would usually hamper our JAWS use on Web pages and with other similar
environments.

-Original Message- 
From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 12:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Caret browsing

On the other JAWS user's list, we have been discussing how to get better
help from the sighted, when needed, while browsing with JAWS.  It has
been stated many times over, that under normal settings, sighted people
mostly can't tell where we are on a web page.
Two suggested remedies mentioned are caret browsing, invoked by f7, and
JAWS cursor follow PC cursor, invoked by pressing insert plus control
plus numpad minus.
I'd be interested to know if anyone has any other suggestions, or
knowledge of any harmful effects of these seemingly helpful, but not
widely known, features of JAWS.

-- 
Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know
peace.
--Attributed to Jimi Hendrix


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[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

2016-02-01 Thread Moderator
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Re: [JAWS-Users] last version of JAWS that works with Windows XP

2016-02-01 Thread Rick Justice
I guess a trip to the FS website would eliminate any doubt. smile

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] last version of JAWS that works with Windows XP


I do believe it is JAWS 16.

Naturally if I am found to be wrong I wish somebody will point that out. 
JAWS does not have a version that will work with 64 bit XP. In fact if 
memory serves no screen reader that I know of supports that platform.

-Original Message- 
From: Reed Poynter
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] last version of JAWS that works with Windows XP

Hello,



What is the latest version of JAWS that works with XP?



Thanks,



Reed



When I go to the FS web site, it determines that my pc is a 64 bit machine
and doesn't show me the earlier versions for XP.



Thanks,



Reed

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Re: [JAWS-Users] last version of JAWS that works with Windows XP

2016-02-01 Thread David Ferrin

I do believe it is JAWS 16.

Naturally if I am found to be wrong I wish somebody will point that out. 
JAWS does not have a version that will work with 64 bit XP. In fact if 
memory serves no screen reader that I know of supports that platform.


-Original Message- 
From: Reed Poynter

Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] last version of JAWS that works with Windows XP

Hello,



What is the latest version of JAWS that works with XP?



Thanks,



Reed



When I go to the FS web site, it determines that my pc is a 64 bit machine
and doesn't show me the earlier versions for XP.



Thanks,



Reed

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[JAWS-Users] Problems with spell check in MS Word

2016-02-01 Thread The Iowa Gal
Hi listers,

I'm using Jaws 16.0.4468 with MS Word 2010. I am spell checking a document,
and when I find a spelling error, I hear: 

Spelling and Grammar  English (US) 
then the misspelled word 
then spelling and Grammar English (US) 
then blank where the correctly spelled word would be spoken

How can I set spell check to be less verbose and how can I restore the
normal reading of the correctly spelled word? As you can assume, it is
virtually impossible to spell check a document in this way, so if someone
can help me I would really appreciate it.

Thanks,
Norma





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Helping moderators with bounces.

2016-02-01 Thread Neil Towery
 You will stop getting e-mails from the list. Neil 


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of petras
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 10:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Helping moderators with bounces.

What happens if you ignore these messages?

 - Original Message -
From: "Neil Towery " 

Re: [JAWS-Users] last version of JAWS that works with Windows XP

2016-02-01 Thread Mario

it's 15.


On 2/1/2016 8:18 AM, Rick Justice wrote:

I guess a trip to the FS website would eliminate any doubt. smile

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message -
From: "David Ferrin" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] last version of JAWS that works with Windows XP


I do believe it is JAWS 16.

Naturally if I am found to be wrong I wish somebody will point that out.
JAWS does not have a version that will work with 64 bit XP. In fact if
memory serves no screen reader that I know of supports that platform.

-Original Message-
From: Reed Poynter
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] last version of JAWS that works with Windows XP

Hello,



What is the latest version of JAWS that works with XP?



Thanks,



Reed



When I go to the FS web site, it determines that my pc is a 64 bit machine
and doesn't show me the earlier versions for XP.



Thanks,



Reed

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