Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

[Dennis Long]

I have no plans on switching to anything else.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Loy Green
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 12:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

I have tried a lot of the human sounding voices, but I still come back to
Eloquence.
  - Original Message - 
  From: net bat66 
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 12:29 PM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence


  i dropped eloquence a long time ago.
  it makes me nervus and i couldn't stay on the computer for more then a
hour at 
  a time.
  no such problem with the human sounding voices.
  i don't need or want to listen to the voices at 400 words per second.
grin.
  people don't talk this way and my computer doesn't either.


  -Original Message- 
  From: JM Casey
  Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 9:10 AM
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

  Yeah, that does make some sense. I always kind of wondered why people
really
  bothered with this nowadays unless they were doing serious audio
processing,
  but I can now see that in some cases it's a sensible solution.

  -Original Message-
  From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf
Of
  net bat66
  Sent: June 25, 2018 12:06 PM
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

  the computer might run faster if you are useing a dedicated plug in  e p c
i
  sound card instead of the onboard one.
  when you do this the sound card does all the sound processing not the
  computers c p u.


  -Original Message-
  From: JM Casey
  Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 6:32 AM
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

  Hey guys.



  After some thought, I decided to switch my primary synthesiser back to
  Eloquence. I must say, that JAWS is now acting a lot more like the robust
  and response screen-reader I would expect on such a relatively fast
machine.
  I spent the past year listening to a nice, mannered, human-sounding voice,
  but wondering why the devil my computer was being just as slow and clunky
at
  times as my XP machine was. Well, now I have the answer. Duh. These
  Vocalizer voices are resource-intensive and slow the machine down. Anybody
  else noticed this? I guess it's a foregone conclusion, but I just assumed
my
  machine would be able to handle it well. I think it'd be ok for reading,
but
  for all practical purposes, well, the trade in favour of performance is an
  obvious no-brainer.



  So, what synths does everyone use here, anyway? What are your thoughts on
  all the software synths out there nowadays? Curiosity question.



  Also, Eloquence - y'know, it's kind of good to have the old man back.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds, temperature and JAWS

[Dennis Long]

Do you have a link for it?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Valiant8086
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 7:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds,
temperature and JAWS

Hi.


CPUID's HW Monitor is quite screen reader friendly and will often report hdd
temps along with other temps for cpu and such, also may report fan speeds,
and may report power consumption.


No need to get hw monitor pro, just do the free one. You should have a zip
file when you download, just extract that to a folder and run hw monitor
64.exe or the other if you're on 32 bit windows.



Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy
Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community -
http://valiantGalaxy.com;



On 6/25/2018 9:28 AM, JM Casey wrote:
> Hey Dennis.
>
> I have three programmes on here that do this as part of their 
> function. None of them are 100% screen-reader friendly but they work 
> well enough. One thing I like about this WhySoSlow programme is that 
> it can save the information in an html report that you just read 
> afterwards. It lists all CPU temps but not HD as far as I know. The 
> guy who built this computer for me is really into this stuff and he 
> put a programme on here called CoreTemp that is a very detailed system 
> temperature monitor. It, unlike WhySoSlow, has info on hard disks. 
> This info is dependent on whether there are internal sensors in the 
> machine or not; I think most modern computers have them though. The 
> third programme is called Speedfan and it is supposed to be able to 
> directly control your system fans through software if they are plugged 
> into the motherboard and not directly into the power supply. This
programme is super complex and can poll a lot of data, and I can't make much
sense of it. Haha.
>
> Anyway, I have only been using it for a day, but I do recommend 
> WhysoSlow as it produces a straight-forward and relatively 
> easy-to-understand diagnostic report, and the software includes many 
> helpful links and documentation that you can access at every stage. 
> The company seems to produce some other useful utilities too, like a 
> programme called WhoCrashed that is supposed to analyse the infamous 
> "blue screens of death" and tell you what programme or driver is likely to
be causing them.
>
> With WhysoSlow, you have to use the JAWS cursor to access the 
> features, but it didn't take me long to get the hang of it.
>
>   
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List  On 
> Behalf Of Dennis Long
> Sent: June 25, 2018 4:12 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU 
> speeds, temperature and JAWS
>
> What programs are accessible that will say the temperatures of the 
> hard drive and your processors?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of JM Casey
> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 7:32 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds, 
> temperature and JAWS
>
> Hey everyone.
>
>   
>
> So, I am running an AMD with six processors rated at, apparently, 
> around
> 3500 MHZ. My system has 8 GB of Ram and is running Windows 10, 1803, 
> and JAWS 18. My preferred voice is the premium Daniel Vocalizer voice. 
> Yes, these specs are all relevant to the topic.
>
>   
>
> For some time now, I have noticed a certain tendency of my system to 
> lag, or lock up, for several seconds at a time. This only seems to 
> happen when JAWS is running. I'm aware that my choice to use this 
> synth does negatively affect JAWS response time, even on this 
> reasonably fast system. Anyway, the "freezes" seem to affect some 
> programmes more than others, but perhaps particularly Firefox and MS 
> Office products. Sometimes, alt-tabbing between open windows seems rather
sluggish.
>
>   
>
> Well, today I ran a utility from a company called Resplendent Software 
> called WhySoSlow. It's basically one of dozens of diagnostic software 
> tools available, that measures your computer's performance by 
> calculating various factors. It measures your CPU speed, memory load, 
> and the temperature of your CPUs using the sensors that modern PCs 
> have. The system was running at a cool 20-something celsius. It was 
> also running at less than half its advertised clockspeed, the 
> programme informed me, and suggested that my CPUs were being "throttled"
to conserve power.
>
>   
>
> Now, I'm aware that some of these third party utilities measure specs 
> in weird ways, or make strange and not always advisable 
> recommendations. I've completely gone off using registry cleaners or 
> any such tools for this reason. I'm also aware that modern CPUs can 
> "clock up" when the load on them becomes particularly 

Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds, temperature and JAWS

[Valiant8086]

Hi.


Try putting it back on balanced. You don't have a battery do you? 
there's no battery icon? If you do have such an icon, you should be able 
to press space on the icon in the system tray and you'll have a left 
right slider you can use to adjust the cpu's power consumption for 
better battery, better performance or best performance.



You would want to see if you're on better performance. If not, selecting 
that will make the cpu spend more time clocked up, and be more eager to 
clock up to complete tasks, but won't force it to stand right at the max 
clock continuously.



Btw, having the cpu stay that hot just cause it's running at max clock 
even if it remains under light load is rather ridiculous. Also, I'd be 
more worried about high temps like that in a desktop than I would a 
laptop. Desktop components may not handle high temps as handily as a 
laptop who's components are all likely built with higher temps in mind 
e.g. hdds.



If you don't have a power icon tip you can get it to appear by plugging 
in a UPS that will support opperation with no drivers, it should appear 
as a battery and turn the platform role over to mobile.



Lastly, you could experiment with minimum and maximum processor state.


1. open power options windows key+x, then o.


2. tab around to additional power settings link, hit that


3. tab a whole bunch of times to change power settings for the high 
performance power plan link, or what ever plan it is that you have now. 
Hit space on that.



4. Find the changed advanced power settings for the high performance 
power plan button, you may land right on it. Hit space on that.



5. in the resulting dialogue you'll be in a list of power plans, you'll 
probably be on the high performanced plan but you can select another if 
you want, just remember this doesn't make that plan take affect so you 
need select that plan after you finish making adjustments to see what 
you did.



6. Tab once, in that long tree view, find processor power management, 
hit right arrow on it.



7. You should have minimum processor state and maximum processor state 
both in here plus a cooling policy that you could also experiment with 
to see if it has any affect, I've never seen the cooling policy actually 
mean anything.



8. Right arrow on minimum processor state. You'll be able to up and down 
arrow here to apply a base percentage value the cpu will be forced to 
step at or above. If you have options for both plugged in and on battery 
then you need to down arrow to plugged in before you right arrow of course.



Notes: 0 percent doesn't actually mean the cpu stops completely, it'll 
clock at the minimum possible speed, which for modern intel CPUs at 
least is 400mhz and also known as sleep mode, often used for performing 
basic tasks while the screen is shut or perhaps even asleep. Other CPUs 
won't go below 533, 800 or 994mhz or there abouts. You can mess with 
this value to set a minimum slowed speed you're happy with, for instance 
you may find that if you do 70 percent your c cpu bottoms out at 2.4ghz 
or some such, and runs fairly cool and is still reasonably responsive.



Maximum processor state is also very useful but it won't help your 
problem most likely, unless you want to try forcing it to run at 2.4ghz 
and not go over or under that for some reason.




Note also that most of the time the percentage won't be followed 
exactly, you'll get what ever the closest clock speed will be if the cpu 
steps up or down to match it e.g. if the buss speed is 99mhz it'll jump 
by 99mhz increments ignoring the setting change if you apply it smaller 
than that. Also, turbo boost (intel) or I forgot what AMD calls it, 
where the cpu jumps clock speeds way higher than the rated clock speeds 
at times, will probably get turned off the instant you lower maximum 
processor state below 100 percent even one percentage point, and thus 
the rest of the scale is from what ever your base clock speed is and 
below that, perhaps.



Hope that's useful.



Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We 
make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com;



On 6/24/2018 7:32 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Hey everyone.

  


So, I am running an AMD with six processors rated at, apparently, around
3500 MHZ. My system has 8 GB of Ram and is running Windows 10, 1803, and
JAWS 18. My preferred voice is the premium Daniel Vocalizer voice. Yes,
these specs are all relevant to the topic.

  


For some time now, I have noticed a certain tendency of my system to lag, or
lock up, for several seconds at a time. This only seems to happen when JAWS
is running. I'm aware that my choice to use this synth does negatively
affect JAWS response time, even on this reasonably fast system. Anyway, the
"freezes" seem to affect some programmes more than others, but perhaps
particularly Firefox and MS Office products. Sometimes, alt-tabbing between
open windows seems 

Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds, temperature and JAWS

[Valiant8086]

Hi.


CPUID's HW Monitor is quite screen reader friendly and will often report 
hdd temps along with other temps for cpu and such, also may report fan 
speeds, and may report power consumption.



No need to get hw monitor pro, just do the free one. You should have a 
zip file when you download, just extract that to a folder and run hw 
monitor 64.exe or the other if you're on 32 bit windows.




Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We 
make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com;



On 6/25/2018 9:28 AM, JM Casey wrote:

Hey Dennis.

I have three programmes on here that do this as part of their function. None
of them are 100% screen-reader friendly but they work well enough. One thing
I like about this WhySoSlow programme is that it can save the information in
an html report that you just read afterwards. It lists all CPU temps but not
HD as far as I know. The guy who built this computer for me is really into
this stuff and he put a programme on here called CoreTemp that is a very
detailed system temperature monitor. It, unlike WhySoSlow, has info on hard
disks. This info is dependent on whether there are internal sensors in the
machine or not; I think most modern computers have them though. The third
programme is called Speedfan and it is supposed to be able to directly
control your system fans through software if they are plugged into the
motherboard and not directly into the power supply. This programme is super
complex and can poll a lot of data, and I can't make much sense of it. Haha.

Anyway, I have only been using it for a day, but I do recommend WhysoSlow as
it produces a straight-forward and relatively easy-to-understand diagnostic
report, and the software includes many helpful links and documentation that
you can access at every stage. The company seems to produce some other
useful utilities too, like a programme called WhoCrashed that is supposed to
analyse the infamous "blue screens of death" and tell you what programme or
driver is likely to be causing them.

With WhysoSlow, you have to use the JAWS cursor to access the features, but
it didn't take me long to get the hang of it.

  


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Dennis Long
Sent: June 25, 2018 4:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds,
temperature and JAWS

What programs are accessible that will say the temperatures of the hard
drive and your processors?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 7:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds,
temperature and JAWS

Hey everyone.

  


So, I am running an AMD with six processors rated at, apparently, around
3500 MHZ. My system has 8 GB of Ram and is running Windows 10, 1803, and
JAWS 18. My preferred voice is the premium Daniel Vocalizer voice. Yes,
these specs are all relevant to the topic.

  


For some time now, I have noticed a certain tendency of my system to lag, or
lock up, for several seconds at a time. This only seems to happen when JAWS
is running. I'm aware that my choice to use this synth does negatively
affect JAWS response time, even on this reasonably fast system. Anyway, the
"freezes" seem to affect some programmes more than others, but perhaps
particularly Firefox and MS Office products. Sometimes, alt-tabbing between
open windows seems rather sluggish.

  


Well, today I ran a utility from a company called Resplendent Software
called WhySoSlow. It's basically one of dozens of diagnostic software tools
available, that measures your computer's performance by calculating various
factors. It measures your CPU speed, memory load, and the temperature of
your CPUs using the sensors that modern PCs have. The system was running at
a cool 20-something celsius. It was also running at less than half its
advertised clockspeed, the programme informed me, and suggested that my CPUs
were being "throttled" to conserve power.

  


Now, I'm aware that some of these third party utilities measure specs in
weird ways, or make strange and not always advisable recommendations. I've
completely gone off using registry cleaners or any such tools for this
reason. I'm also aware that modern CPUs can "clock up" when the load on them
becomes particularly intensive, but I don't know how well Windows for
instance actually manages this feature. However, I decided to try a little
experiment. I remembered fiddling a bit with the power settings in Windows
10 previously, but not to any great extent - mostly just to prevent my
computer from "going to sleep" when left unattended. In the "power plan"
settings within power options, I adjusted the power plan from "balanced", to
"optimise for performance", to see if it would make a difference.

  


I then ran 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Power Point request

[Fernando Gregoire]

Hi Paul,

I can remember that there's a PowerPoint tutorial with JAWS in the Freedom
Scientific Training web page.
Unless they have updated it recently, the tutorial explains PowerPoint 2003
and 2007. However, most of hints for PowerPoint 2007 are valid for latter
versions, as well as those for 2003 are valid for the earlier ones.

Hope it helps!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

[Fernando Gregoire]

I always used and still use Eloquence for dayly screen reading.
Although other engines have more human-sounding voices, most do not change
intonation correctly when there are question or exclamation marks, or
change with random results. At least in Spanish, Eloquence is the only
engine which clearly change intonation in all of these cases if the text is
well punctuated.
At least in Spanish, Eloquence only have two problems.
First, whetter you use Castilian or Latin American, the y letter is read
the same as i, which is not right when navigating by character. I solve
this by adding a JAWS dictionary rule, only for Eloquence and Spanish, that
makes a nonintrusive sound each time an y appears. It is important to
choose a nonintrusive sound, because the y in Spanish must be pronnounced
the same as “i” when in a phrase is like the English “and”.
The second and most important problem is that there's not a Spanish
Eloquence dialect that correctly read sillables with sh and, at the same
time, distinct sounds of c, s and z. While the Castilian Spanish
differentiates these sounds like in Spain but does not correctly read the
sh sillables, Latin American is the oposite. While the behabiour of Latin
American Spanish matches the way in which we treat these aspects in most
Latin American countries (even when this language setting is made thinking
in Mexico), there should be a language setting mixing these two advantages
like other engines do.

Last, but not least, Eloquence does not become unstable when activating the
Caps During Say All option in JAWS, which allows to read a word in a louder
pitch when it contains capital letters during a Say All. This option can be
turned on also when using other engines like Vocalizer, but even the
various Vocalizer versions specifically aimed for Freedom Scientific
products become sluggish at changing pitch for specific words in long
phrases.
What about question and exclamation marks intonation with speech engines in
English?



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2018-06-25 10:32 GMT-03:00 JM Casey :

> Hey guys.
>
>
>
> After some thought, I decided to switch my primary synthesiser back to
> Eloquence. I must say, that JAWS is now acting a lot more like the robust
> and response screen-reader I would expect on such a relatively fast
> machine.
> I spent the past year listening to a nice, mannered, human-sounding voice,
> but wondering why the devil my computer was being just as slow and clunky
> at
> times as my XP machine was. Well, now I have the answer. Duh. These
> Vocalizer voices are resource-intensive and slow the machine down. Anybody
> else noticed this? I guess it's a foregone conclusion, but I just assumed
> my
> machine would be able to handle it well. I think it'd be ok for reading,
> but
> for all practical purposes, well, the trade in favour of performance is an
> obvious no-brainer.
>
>
>
> So, what synths does everyone use here, anyway? What are your thoughts on
> all the software synths out there nowadays? Curiosity question.
>
>
>
> Also, Eloquence - y'know, it's kind of good to have the old man back.
>
>
>
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds, temperature and JAWS

[Mr. Ed]

Hi JM,
Refresh this old geezers brain as to where you go to change the setting you
made. I am using a W10 operating system.
Mr. Ed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 6:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds,
temperature and JAWS

Hey everyone.

 

So, I am running an AMD with six processors rated at, apparently, around
3500 MHZ. My system has 8 GB of Ram and is running Windows 10, 1803, and
JAWS 18. My preferred voice is the premium Daniel Vocalizer voice. Yes,
these specs are all relevant to the topic.

 

For some time now, I have noticed a certain tendency of my system to lag, or
lock up, for several seconds at a time. This only seems to happen when JAWS
is running. I'm aware that my choice to use this synth does negatively
affect JAWS response time, even on this reasonably fast system. Anyway, the
"freezes" seem to affect some programmes more than others, but perhaps
particularly Firefox and MS Office products. Sometimes, alt-tabbing between
open windows seems rather sluggish.

 

Well, today I ran a utility from a company called Resplendent Software
called WhySoSlow. It's basically one of dozens of diagnostic software tools
available, that measures your computer's performance by calculating various
factors. It measures your CPU speed, memory load, and the temperature of
your CPUs using the sensors that modern PCs have. The system was running at
a cool 20-something celsius. It was also running at less than half its
advertised clockspeed, the programme informed me, and suggested that my CPUs
were being "throttled" to conserve power. 

 

Now, I'm aware that some of these third party utilities measure specs in
weird ways, or make strange and not always advisable recommendations. I've
completely gone off using registry cleaners or any such tools for this
reason. I'm also aware that modern CPUs can "clock up" when the load on them
becomes particularly intensive, but I don't know how well Windows for
instance actually manages this feature. However, I decided to try a little
experiment. I remembered fiddling a bit with the power settings in Windows
10 previously, but not to any great extent - mostly just to prevent my
computer from "going to sleep" when left unattended. In the "power plan"
settings within power options, I adjusted the power plan from "balanced", to
"optimise for performance", to see if it would make a difference.

 

I then ran WhySoSlow again. My computer is now operating at peak processor
speed, all of the time. I suppose it's also using a hell of a lot more
power, which might not be a good thing. It's also not "running cool"
anymore. In fact, the CPU temperature has doubled all across the board,
reaching as high as 65 C, according to this programme (even higher according
to the coretemp utility).

 

However - JAWS is now behaving much more responsively. I haven't had any
freezes. Alt-tab cycles between programmes nearly instantaneously, and
Firefox seems much faster.

 

I don't really have a question for the list. I just thought this was kind of
an interesting thing to share, and wondered if anyone else had observed
anything similar. It is a fact that with my current setup I am normally at a
speed disadvantage when placed against sighted users. This is, I believe, in
part because JAWS is somewhat resource-intensive, especially using this type
of synthesiser (yes, I have considered switching back to Eloquence). I'm not
sure if I ought to keep my setup this way. I don't particularly want a
really high power bill and I don't want my computer to overheat, though in
theory the automatic cutoffs should engage before anything really bad
happens. I actually think it's nice that Windows includes power saving
features, but not necessarily at the expense of system performance.

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

[Andy Baracco]

Same here! Luv Eloquence!

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Dennis Long" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence



I have never been impressed by the new better voices.  I used them to try
and quickly returned to eloquence.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 9:33 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

Hey guys.



After some thought, I decided to switch my primary synthesiser back to
Eloquence. I must say, that JAWS is now acting a lot more like the robust
and response screen-reader I would expect on such a relatively fast 
machine.

I spent the past year listening to a nice, mannered, human-sounding voice,
but wondering why the devil my computer was being just as slow and clunky 
at

times as my XP machine was. Well, now I have the answer. Duh. These
Vocalizer voices are resource-intensive and slow the machine down. Anybody
else noticed this? I guess it's a foregone conclusion, but I just assumed 
my
machine would be able to handle it well. I think it'd be ok for reading, 
but

for all practical purposes, well, the trade in favour of performance is an
obvious no-brainer.



So, what synths does everyone use here, anyway? What are your thoughts on
all the software synths out there nowadays? Curiosity question.



Also, Eloquence - y'know, it's kind of good to have the old man back.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Deactivating an Authorization on a Computer to Transfer to Another Computer

[Steve]

I don't think that will deactivate a computer.  I'm not sure the ability to 
de-activate an existing authorization ever works now, so if you start 
running out of authorizations, you have to do what Valiant suggests.



- Original Message - 
From: "Valiant8086" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2018 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Deactivating an Authorization on a Computer to 
Transfer to Another Computer




Hi.


Go to


http://fsactivate.com


Choose request authorization reset


Put in your serial number or, if you have multiple activation codes on 
your serial number, perhaps just put your authorization code, they like 
that better.



Sometimes the code reset happens immediately. You can do this a couple 
times per year as I recall. Once this is complete, try to activate JAWS 
again. It may not work quite like this if you aren't in the USA.




Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy 
Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - 
http://valiantGalaxy.com;




On 6/22/2018 7:58 AM, Matthew Chao wrote:
Hi, Folks. I want to de-authorize one computer and reactivate/authorize 
on another computer. How do I go about doing this. I have four computers 
and need three, so I have to pick one to de-authorize and put onto 
another computer. Thanks in advance for your help.--Matthew Chao



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

[JM Casey]

That's really sweet. I don't think I really need that much; not a gamer or
avideo editor -- but I wouldn't say no to that, either.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Orlando Enrique Fiol
Sent: June 25, 2018 2:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

I was able to upgrade my RAM cheaply because my system has eight slots and
only three were being used. I got four 8-gig chips for around $200.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

[Orlando Enrique Fiol]

I was able to upgrade my RAM cheaply because my system has eight 
slots and only three were being used. I got four 8-gig chips for around $200.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

[JM Casey]

You're right that people don't talk that way. It's why the Vocalizer voices
sound really bad if you jack them up to even forty percent. They are indeed
very human sounding. However, my reasoning is that a speech synthesiser is a
tool, not a person, and the better it works at fast rates, the faster you
can read/digest information and get work done. I think I'll kep it this way,
at least until I do that ram upgrade. *grins*



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
net bat66
Sent: June 25, 2018 12:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

i dropped eloquence a long time ago.
it makes me nervus and i couldn't stay on the computer for more then a hour
at a time.
no such problem with the human sounding voices.
i don't need or want to listen to the voices at 400 words per second. grin.
people don't talk this way and my computer doesn't either.


-Original Message- 
From: JM Casey
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 9:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

Yeah, that does make some sense. I always kind of wondered why people really
bothered with this nowadays unless they were doing serious audio processing,
but I can now see that in some cases it's a sensible solution.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
net bat66
Sent: June 25, 2018 12:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

the computer might run faster if you are useing a dedicated plug in  e p c i
sound card instead of the onboard one.
when you do this the sound card does all the sound processing not the
computers c p u.


-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 6:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

Hey guys.



After some thought, I decided to switch my primary synthesiser back to
Eloquence. I must say, that JAWS is now acting a lot more like the robust
and response screen-reader I would expect on such a relatively fast machine.
I spent the past year listening to a nice, mannered, human-sounding voice,
but wondering why the devil my computer was being just as slow and clunky at
times as my XP machine was. Well, now I have the answer. Duh. These
Vocalizer voices are resource-intensive and slow the machine down. Anybody
else noticed this? I guess it's a foregone conclusion, but I just assumed my
machine would be able to handle it well. I think it'd be ok for reading, but
for all practical purposes, well, the trade in favour of performance is an
obvious no-brainer.



So, what synths does everyone use here, anyway? What are your thoughts on
all the software synths out there nowadays? Curiosity question.



Also, Eloquence - y'know, it's kind of good to have the old man back.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

[JM Casey]

Dectalk sounded pretty good! Especially considering that synth goes all the
way back to the early/mid 80s and hardly changed at all. I never had any
screen-reader use it though; just the Kurzeil 1000 product back in the late
90s.

Wow, that's a lot of ram. I was thinking an upgrade to 16 GB might at least
be in order.



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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Orlando Enrique Fiol
Sent: June 25, 2018 12:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

I actually was loathed to give up my Dectalk Access 32, which I used with
Window-eyes until a few years ago. Since migrating to Jaws, I love the
Vocalizer voices for their high frequency clarity and hum-based phoneme
samples. Having compared the Vocalizer voices to Voiceware, Google TTS and
the latest Microsoft voices, none are as clear and crisp as Vocalizer. My
system does not lag at all with them, but I have 43 gigs of memory and a
solid state hard drive.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] vocalizer voices

[JM Casey]

I was using Daniel Premium. Very nice human sound at slow (comparatively)
speech rates. Not so much at fast ones. The Tom one sounds a bit nasal to me
and in any case I prefer the British voices, though I use the American
English Eloquence because the Brit one sounds ridiculous.

I find I always have to turn the subwoofer all the way down except when
playing music. Almost everything is too bassy! This analogue subwoofer
control also doesn't give a lot of control at all. Seems it's either all the
way off, or all the way on, almost.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
net bat66
Sent: June 25, 2018 1:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] vocalizer voices

it also depends on weather you install the  full or compact version of the
voices.  they have different sampleing rates. so the full version would
sound better then the compact version.
i like the tom voice the best. the female voices are too basey.



-Original Message-
From: Orlando Enrique Fiol
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 9:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

I actually was loathed to give up my Dectalk Access 32, which I used with
Window-eyes until a few years ago. Since migrating to Jaws, I love the
Vocalizer voices for their high frequency clarity and hum-based phoneme
samples. Having compared the Vocalizer voices to Voiceware, Google TTS and
the latest Microsoft voices, none are as clear and crisp as Vocalizer. My
system does not lag at all with them, but I have 43 gigs of memory and a
solid state hard drive.

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Hello Listers,
who can show me how to make and read a  power point presentation using
Jaws 2018 windows 10 on lenovo laptop?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds, temperature and JAWS

[JM Casey]

Hey Steve.

Thanks for your thoughts on this. I appreciate it. The utility can be found,
if you're curious, at:
http://www.resplendence.com/downloads

The temperature thing is quite strange, because I also thought the spike in
temperature rather drastic. Thing is, my fans were also filthy. Today my
girlfriend and I took the PC (yes, it's a desktop) apart and cleaned the
fans and area around them. Temperatures have now dropped significantly, to
the level I was seeing before, around the low 20s. Much better! I also set
the power plan back to normal, because now that I switched to Eloquence
again, the computer is performing much more smoothly. I did not anticipate a
software synth to put such a load on the machine, but as someone else
pointed out, I don't have a soundcard to run JAWS or anything else on, just
the internal Realtech audio, which is pretty good, but y'know.

I am trying to read up now on power plans and CPU loads. It's quite
interesting.



-- 
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Steve
Sent: June 25, 2018 1:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds,
temperature and JAWS

J.M.,

I hadn't heard of that utility before; and I'm slightly surprised that your
temps went up that much.  I suppose how good your cooling is depends on the
type of technology you have; case design, type of cooler and number of fans.

I assume you are using a desktop, I would be more concerned about the higher
temperatures if you are using a laptop, because of their limited cooling
capacity.

As for power consumption, a typical desktop uses about 200 Watts per hour,
but I'd guess the differential amount of power used on the high-performance
versus balanced setting is quite nominal.  I don't have a talking watt-hour
meter, so I can't measure that precisely, but I'd guess you would see maybe
a 50-Watt-hour difference.

With the average price of a kilowatt-hour of electricity for residential
customers around 13¢ then, I would expect your power bill would be affected
by about $4 per month.

Steve
Lansing, MI

- Original Message -
From: "JM Casey" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 7:32 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds,
temperature and JAWS


> Hey everyone.
>
>
>
> So, I am running an AMD with six processors rated at, apparently, 
> around
> 3500 MHZ. My system has 8 GB of Ram and is running Windows 10, 1803, 
> and JAWS 18. My preferred voice is the premium Daniel Vocalizer voice. 
> Yes, these specs are all relevant to the topic.
>
>
>
> For some time now, I have noticed a certain tendency of my system to 
> lag, or lock up, for several seconds at a time. This only seems to 
> happen when JAWS is running. I'm aware that my choice to use this 
> synth does negatively affect JAWS response time, even on this 
> reasonably fast system. Anyway, the "freezes" seem to affect some 
> programmes more than others, but perhaps particularly Firefox and MS 
> Office products. Sometimes, alt-tabbing between open windows seems 
> rather sluggish.
>
>
>
> Well, today I ran a utility from a company called Resplendent Software 
> called WhySoSlow. It's basically one of dozens of diagnostic software 
> tools available, that measures your computer's performance by 
> calculating various factors. It measures your CPU speed, memory load, 
> and the temperature of your CPUs using the sensors that modern PCs 
> have. The system was running at a cool 20-something celsius. It was 
> also running at less than half its advertised clockspeed, the 
> programme informed me, and suggested that my CPUs were being 
> "throttled" to conserve power.
>
>
>
> Now, I'm aware that some of these third party utilities measure specs in
> weird ways, or make strange and not always advisable recommendations. I've
> completely gone off using registry cleaners or any such tools for this
> reason. I'm also aware that modern CPUs can "clock up" when the load on 
> them
> becomes particularly intensive, but I don't know how well Windows for
> instance actually manages this feature. However, I decided to try a little
> experiment. I remembered fiddling a bit with the power settings in Windows
> 10 previously, but not to any great extent - mostly just to prevent my
> computer from "going to sleep" when left unattended. In the "power plan"
> settings within power options, I adjusted the power plan from "balanced", 
> to
> "optimise for performance", to see if it would make a difference.
>
>
>
> I then ran WhySoSlow again. My computer is now operating at peak processor
> speed, all of the time. I suppose it's also using a hell of a lot more
> power, which might not be a good thing. It's also not "running cool"
> anymore. In fact, the CPU temperature has doubled all across the board,
> reaching as high as 65 C, according to this programme (even higher 
> according
> to the coretemp utility).
>
>
>
> However - JAWS is now behaving much more 

Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds, temperature and JAWS

[Steve]

J.M.,

I hadn't heard of that utility before; and I'm slightly surprised that your 
temps went up that much.  I suppose how good your cooling is depends on the 
type of technology you have; case design, type of cooler and number of fans.


I assume you are using a desktop, I would be more concerned about the higher 
temperatures if you are using a laptop, because of their limited cooling 
capacity.


As for power consumption, a typical desktop uses about 200 Watts per hour, 
but I'd guess the differential amount of power used on the high-performance 
versus balanced setting is quite nominal.  I don't have a talking watt-hour 
meter, so I can't measure that precisely, but I'd guess you would see maybe 
a 50-Watt-hour difference.


With the average price of a kilowatt-hour of electricity for residential 
customers around 13¢ then, I would expect your power bill would be affected 
by about $4 per month.


Steve
Lansing, MI

- Original Message - 
From: "JM Casey" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 7:32 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds, 
temperature and JAWS




Hey everyone.



So, I am running an AMD with six processors rated at, apparently, around
3500 MHZ. My system has 8 GB of Ram and is running Windows 10, 1803, and
JAWS 18. My preferred voice is the premium Daniel Vocalizer voice. Yes,
these specs are all relevant to the topic.



For some time now, I have noticed a certain tendency of my system to lag, 
or
lock up, for several seconds at a time. This only seems to happen when 
JAWS

is running. I'm aware that my choice to use this synth does negatively
affect JAWS response time, even on this reasonably fast system. Anyway, 
the

"freezes" seem to affect some programmes more than others, but perhaps
particularly Firefox and MS Office products. Sometimes, alt-tabbing 
between

open windows seems rather sluggish.



Well, today I ran a utility from a company called Resplendent Software
called WhySoSlow. It's basically one of dozens of diagnostic software 
tools
available, that measures your computer's performance by calculating 
various

factors. It measures your CPU speed, memory load, and the temperature of
your CPUs using the sensors that modern PCs have. The system was running 
at

a cool 20-something celsius. It was also running at less than half its
advertised clockspeed, the programme informed me, and suggested that my 
CPUs

were being "throttled" to conserve power.



Now, I'm aware that some of these third party utilities measure specs in
weird ways, or make strange and not always advisable recommendations. I've
completely gone off using registry cleaners or any such tools for this
reason. I'm also aware that modern CPUs can "clock up" when the load on 
them

becomes particularly intensive, but I don't know how well Windows for
instance actually manages this feature. However, I decided to try a little
experiment. I remembered fiddling a bit with the power settings in Windows
10 previously, but not to any great extent - mostly just to prevent my
computer from "going to sleep" when left unattended. In the "power plan"
settings within power options, I adjusted the power plan from "balanced", 
to

"optimise for performance", to see if it would make a difference.



I then ran WhySoSlow again. My computer is now operating at peak processor
speed, all of the time. I suppose it's also using a hell of a lot more
power, which might not be a good thing. It's also not "running cool"
anymore. In fact, the CPU temperature has doubled all across the board,
reaching as high as 65 C, according to this programme (even higher 
according

to the coretemp utility).



However - JAWS is now behaving much more responsively. I haven't had any
freezes. Alt-tab cycles between programmes nearly instantaneously, and
Firefox seems much faster.



I don't really have a question for the list. I just thought this was kind 
of

an interesting thing to share, and wondered if anyone else had observed
anything similar. It is a fact that with my current setup I am normally at 
a
speed disadvantage when placed against sighted users. This is, I believe, 
in
part because JAWS is somewhat resource-intensive, especially using this 
type
of synthesiser (yes, I have considered switching back to Eloquence). I'm 
not

sure if I ought to keep my setup this way. I don't particularly want a
really high power bill and I don't want my computer to overheat, though in
theory the automatic cutoffs should engage before anything really bad
happens. I actually think it's nice that Windows includes power saving
features, but not necessarily at the expense of system performance.





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[JAWS-Users] vocalizer voices

[net bat66]

it also depends on weather you install the  full or compact version of the 
voices.  they have different sampleing rates. so the full version would sound 
better then the compact version.

i like the tom voice the best. the female voices are too basey.



-Original Message- 
From: Orlando Enrique Fiol

Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 9:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

I actually was loathed to give up my Dectalk Access 32, which I used
with Window-eyes until a few years ago. Since migrating to Jaws, I
love the Vocalizer voices for their high frequency clarity and
hum-based phoneme samples. Having compared the Vocalizer voices to
Voiceware, Google TTS and the latest Microsoft voices, none are as
clear and crisp as Vocalizer. My system does not lag at all with
them, but I have 43 gigs of memory and a solid state hard drive.

Orlando Enrique Fiole


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

[Orlando Enrique Fiol]

I actually was loathed to give up my Dectalk Access 32, which I used 
with Window-eyes until a few years ago. Since migrating to Jaws, I 
love the Vocalizer voices for their high frequency clarity and 
hum-based phoneme samples. Having compared the Vocalizer voices to 
Voiceware, Google TTS and the latest Microsoft voices, none are as 
clear and crisp as Vocalizer. My system does not lag at all with 
them, but I have 43 gigs of memory and a solid state hard drive.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

[Loy Green]

I have tried a lot of the human sounding voices, but I still come back to 
Eloquence.
  - Original Message - 
  From: net bat66 
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 12:29 PM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence


  i dropped eloquence a long time ago.
  it makes me nervus and i couldn't stay on the computer for more then a hour 
at 
  a time.
  no such problem with the human sounding voices.
  i don't need or want to listen to the voices at 400 words per second. grin.
  people don't talk this way and my computer doesn't either.


  -Original Message- 
  From: JM Casey
  Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 9:10 AM
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

  Yeah, that does make some sense. I always kind of wondered why people really
  bothered with this nowadays unless they were doing serious audio processing,
  but I can now see that in some cases it's a sensible solution.

  -Original Message-
  From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
  net bat66
  Sent: June 25, 2018 12:06 PM
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

  the computer might run faster if you are useing a dedicated plug in  e p c i
  sound card instead of the onboard one.
  when you do this the sound card does all the sound processing not the
  computers c p u.


  -Original Message-
  From: JM Casey
  Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 6:32 AM
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

  Hey guys.



  After some thought, I decided to switch my primary synthesiser back to
  Eloquence. I must say, that JAWS is now acting a lot more like the robust
  and response screen-reader I would expect on such a relatively fast machine.
  I spent the past year listening to a nice, mannered, human-sounding voice,
  but wondering why the devil my computer was being just as slow and clunky at
  times as my XP machine was. Well, now I have the answer. Duh. These
  Vocalizer voices are resource-intensive and slow the machine down. Anybody
  else noticed this? I guess it's a foregone conclusion, but I just assumed my
  machine would be able to handle it well. I think it'd be ok for reading, but
  for all practical purposes, well, the trade in favour of performance is an
  obvious no-brainer.



  So, what synths does everyone use here, anyway? What are your thoughts on
  all the software synths out there nowadays? Curiosity question.



  Also, Eloquence - y'know, it's kind of good to have the old man back.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

[net bat66]

i dropped eloquence a long time ago.
it makes me nervus and i couldn't stay on the computer for more then a hour at 
a time.

no such problem with the human sounding voices.
i don't need or want to listen to the voices at 400 words per second. grin.
people don't talk this way and my computer doesn't either.


-Original Message- 
From: JM Casey

Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 9:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

Yeah, that does make some sense. I always kind of wondered why people really
bothered with this nowadays unless they were doing serious audio processing,
but I can now see that in some cases it's a sensible solution.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
net bat66
Sent: June 25, 2018 12:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

the computer might run faster if you are useing a dedicated plug in  e p c i
sound card instead of the onboard one.
when you do this the sound card does all the sound processing not the
computers c p u.


-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 6:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

Hey guys.



After some thought, I decided to switch my primary synthesiser back to
Eloquence. I must say, that JAWS is now acting a lot more like the robust
and response screen-reader I would expect on such a relatively fast machine.
I spent the past year listening to a nice, mannered, human-sounding voice,
but wondering why the devil my computer was being just as slow and clunky at
times as my XP machine was. Well, now I have the answer. Duh. These
Vocalizer voices are resource-intensive and slow the machine down. Anybody
else noticed this? I guess it's a foregone conclusion, but I just assumed my
machine would be able to handle it well. I think it'd be ok for reading, but
for all practical purposes, well, the trade in favour of performance is an
obvious no-brainer.



So, what synths does everyone use here, anyway? What are your thoughts on
all the software synths out there nowadays? Curiosity question.



Also, Eloquence - y'know, it's kind of good to have the old man back.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

[JM Casey]

I was quite impressed, but I think the hit on system speed and performance
might not be worth the nice sound most of the time. It's not just that
Eloquence is good enough; it's fast as hell!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Dennis Long
Sent: June 25, 2018 11:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

I have never been impressed by the new better voices.  I used them to try
and quickly returned to eloquence.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 9:33 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

Hey guys.

 

After some thought, I decided to switch my primary synthesiser back to
Eloquence. I must say, that JAWS is now acting a lot more like the robust
and response screen-reader I would expect on such a relatively fast machine.
I spent the past year listening to a nice, mannered, human-sounding voice,
but wondering why the devil my computer was being just as slow and clunky at
times as my XP machine was. Well, now I have the answer. Duh. These
Vocalizer voices are resource-intensive and slow the machine down. Anybody
else noticed this? I guess it's a foregone conclusion, but I just assumed my
machine would be able to handle it well. I think it'd be ok for reading, but
for all practical purposes, well, the trade in favour of performance is an
obvious no-brainer.

 

So, what synths does everyone use here, anyway? What are your thoughts on
all the software synths out there nowadays? Curiosity question.

 

Also, Eloquence - y'know, it's kind of good to have the old man back.

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

[JM Casey]

Yeah, that does make some sense. I always kind of wondered why people really
bothered with this nowadays unless they were doing serious audio processing,
but I can now see that in some cases it's a sensible solution.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
net bat66
Sent: June 25, 2018 12:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

the computer might run faster if you are useing a dedicated plug in  e p c i
sound card instead of the onboard one.
when you do this the sound card does all the sound processing not the
computers c p u.


-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 6:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

Hey guys.



After some thought, I decided to switch my primary synthesiser back to
Eloquence. I must say, that JAWS is now acting a lot more like the robust
and response screen-reader I would expect on such a relatively fast machine.
I spent the past year listening to a nice, mannered, human-sounding voice,
but wondering why the devil my computer was being just as slow and clunky at
times as my XP machine was. Well, now I have the answer. Duh. These
Vocalizer voices are resource-intensive and slow the machine down. Anybody
else noticed this? I guess it's a foregone conclusion, but I just assumed my
machine would be able to handle it well. I think it'd be ok for reading, but
for all practical purposes, well, the trade in favour of performance is an
obvious no-brainer.



So, what synths does everyone use here, anyway? What are your thoughts on
all the software synths out there nowadays? Curiosity question.



Also, Eloquence - y'know, it's kind of good to have the old man back.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

[net bat66]

the computer might run faster if you are useing a dedicated plug in  e p c i 
sound card instead of the onboard one.
when you do this the sound card does all the sound processing not the computers 
c p u.



-Original Message- 
From: JM Casey

Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 6:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

Hey guys.



After some thought, I decided to switch my primary synthesiser back to
Eloquence. I must say, that JAWS is now acting a lot more like the robust
and response screen-reader I would expect on such a relatively fast machine.
I spent the past year listening to a nice, mannered, human-sounding voice,
but wondering why the devil my computer was being just as slow and clunky at
times as my XP machine was. Well, now I have the answer. Duh. These
Vocalizer voices are resource-intensive and slow the machine down. Anybody
else noticed this? I guess it's a foregone conclusion, but I just assumed my
machine would be able to handle it well. I think it'd be ok for reading, but
for all practical purposes, well, the trade in favour of performance is an
obvious no-brainer.



So, what synths does everyone use here, anyway? What are your thoughts on
all the software synths out there nowadays? Curiosity question.



Also, Eloquence - y'know, it's kind of good to have the old man back.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] send a facebook messenger message

[JM Casey]

Awesome. 


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
sandy
Sent: June 25, 2018 11:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] send a facebook messenger message

it worked, thank you

-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 10:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] send a facebook messenger message

Try accessing your messages through m.facebook.com You'll find the send
button easily enough there.
I'm not actually sure what you mean by "messenger page". The messenger is an
app for mobile devices, I think.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
sandy
Sent: June 25, 2018 11:25 AM
To: jul 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] send a facebook messenger message

sometimes sighted friends send me messages through facebook messenger, but
after writing a message on the messenger page, I can't find the send button.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

[Dennis Long]

I have never been impressed by the new better voices.  I used them to try
and quickly returned to eloquence.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 9:33 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

Hey guys.

 

After some thought, I decided to switch my primary synthesiser back to
Eloquence. I must say, that JAWS is now acting a lot more like the robust
and response screen-reader I would expect on such a relatively fast machine.
I spent the past year listening to a nice, mannered, human-sounding voice,
but wondering why the devil my computer was being just as slow and clunky at
times as my XP machine was. Well, now I have the answer. Duh. These
Vocalizer voices are resource-intensive and slow the machine down. Anybody
else noticed this? I guess it's a foregone conclusion, but I just assumed my
machine would be able to handle it well. I think it'd be ok for reading, but
for all practical purposes, well, the trade in favour of performance is an
obvious no-brainer.

 

So, what synths does everyone use here, anyway? What are your thoughts on
all the software synths out there nowadays? Curiosity question.

 

Also, Eloquence - y'know, it's kind of good to have the old man back.

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] send a facebook messenger message

[sandy]

it worked, thank you

-Original Message- 
From: JM Casey

Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 10:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] send a facebook messenger message

Try accessing your messages through m.facebook.com
You'll find the send button easily enough there.
I'm not actually sure what you mean by "messenger page". The messenger is an
app for mobile devices, I think.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
sandy
Sent: June 25, 2018 11:25 AM
To: jul 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] send a facebook messenger message

sometimes sighted friends send me messages through facebook messenger, but
after writing a message on the messenger page, I can't find the send button.
can someone help? jaws 17, any browser For answers to frequently asked
questions about this list visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] send a facebook messenger message

[JM Casey]

Try accessing your messages through m.facebook.com
You'll find the send button easily enough there.
I'm not actually sure what you mean by "messenger page". The messenger is an
app for mobile devices, I think.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
sandy
Sent: June 25, 2018 11:25 AM
To: jul 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] send a facebook messenger message

sometimes sighted friends send me messages through facebook messenger, but
after writing a message on the messenger page, I can't find the send button.
can someone help? jaws 17, any browser For answers to frequently asked
questions about this list visit:
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[JAWS-Users] [jaws] send a facebook messenger message

[sandy]

sometimes sighted friends send me messages through facebook messenger, but 
after writing a message on the messenger page, I can’t find the send button. 
can someone help? jaws 17, any browser
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[JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

[JM Casey]

Hey guys.

 

After some thought, I decided to switch my primary synthesiser back to
Eloquence. I must say, that JAWS is now acting a lot more like the robust
and response screen-reader I would expect on such a relatively fast machine.
I spent the past year listening to a nice, mannered, human-sounding voice,
but wondering why the devil my computer was being just as slow and clunky at
times as my XP machine was. Well, now I have the answer. Duh. These
Vocalizer voices are resource-intensive and slow the machine down. Anybody
else noticed this? I guess it's a foregone conclusion, but I just assumed my
machine would be able to handle it well. I think it'd be ok for reading, but
for all practical purposes, well, the trade in favour of performance is an
obvious no-brainer.

 

So, what synths does everyone use here, anyway? What are your thoughts on
all the software synths out there nowadays? Curiosity question.

 

Also, Eloquence - y'know, it's kind of good to have the old man back.

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds, temperature and JAWS

[JM Casey]

Hey Dennis.

I have three programmes on here that do this as part of their function. None
of them are 100% screen-reader friendly but they work well enough. One thing
I like about this WhySoSlow programme is that it can save the information in
an html report that you just read afterwards. It lists all CPU temps but not
HD as far as I know. The guy who built this computer for me is really into
this stuff and he put a programme on here called CoreTemp that is a very
detailed system temperature monitor. It, unlike WhySoSlow, has info on hard
disks. This info is dependent on whether there are internal sensors in the
machine or not; I think most modern computers have them though. The third
programme is called Speedfan and it is supposed to be able to directly
control your system fans through software if they are plugged into the
motherboard and not directly into the power supply. This programme is super
complex and can poll a lot of data, and I can't make much sense of it. Haha.

Anyway, I have only been using it for a day, but I do recommend WhysoSlow as
it produces a straight-forward and relatively easy-to-understand diagnostic
report, and the software includes many helpful links and documentation that
you can access at every stage. The company seems to produce some other
useful utilities too, like a programme called WhoCrashed that is supposed to
analyse the infamous "blue screens of death" and tell you what programme or
driver is likely to be causing them.

With WhysoSlow, you have to use the JAWS cursor to access the features, but
it didn't take me long to get the hang of it.

 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Dennis Long
Sent: June 25, 2018 4:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds,
temperature and JAWS

What programs are accessible that will say the temperatures of the hard
drive and your processors?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 7:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds,
temperature and JAWS

Hey everyone.

 

So, I am running an AMD with six processors rated at, apparently, around
3500 MHZ. My system has 8 GB of Ram and is running Windows 10, 1803, and
JAWS 18. My preferred voice is the premium Daniel Vocalizer voice. Yes,
these specs are all relevant to the topic.

 

For some time now, I have noticed a certain tendency of my system to lag, or
lock up, for several seconds at a time. This only seems to happen when JAWS
is running. I'm aware that my choice to use this synth does negatively
affect JAWS response time, even on this reasonably fast system. Anyway, the
"freezes" seem to affect some programmes more than others, but perhaps
particularly Firefox and MS Office products. Sometimes, alt-tabbing between
open windows seems rather sluggish.

 

Well, today I ran a utility from a company called Resplendent Software
called WhySoSlow. It's basically one of dozens of diagnostic software tools
available, that measures your computer's performance by calculating various
factors. It measures your CPU speed, memory load, and the temperature of
your CPUs using the sensors that modern PCs have. The system was running at
a cool 20-something celsius. It was also running at less than half its
advertised clockspeed, the programme informed me, and suggested that my CPUs
were being "throttled" to conserve power. 

 

Now, I'm aware that some of these third party utilities measure specs in
weird ways, or make strange and not always advisable recommendations. I've
completely gone off using registry cleaners or any such tools for this
reason. I'm also aware that modern CPUs can "clock up" when the load on them
becomes particularly intensive, but I don't know how well Windows for
instance actually manages this feature. However, I decided to try a little
experiment. I remembered fiddling a bit with the power settings in Windows
10 previously, but not to any great extent - mostly just to prevent my
computer from "going to sleep" when left unattended. In the "power plan"
settings within power options, I adjusted the power plan from "balanced", to
"optimise for performance", to see if it would make a difference.

 

I then ran WhySoSlow again. My computer is now operating at peak processor
speed, all of the time. I suppose it's also using a hell of a lot more
power, which might not be a good thing. It's also not "running cool"
anymore. In fact, the CPU temperature has doubled all across the board,
reaching as high as 65 C, according to this programme (even higher according
to the coretemp utility).

 

However - JAWS is now behaving much more responsively. I haven't had any
freezes. Alt-tab cycles between programmes nearly instantaneously, and
Firefox seems much faster.

 

I don't really have a question for the list. I just thought this 

[JAWS-Users] [jaws] jaws keyboard shortcut

[sandy]

what are the jaws keystrokes to open the jaws desktop help menu on a dell 
laptop? jaws 17 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] google chrome guide

[David Moore]

Hi all!
The new window just opens your website in another window.
The incognito window, means that you are in a private browsing window.
It is the same as private browsing. Chrome just gives it another name.
Have a great one!
David Moore
 Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Holger Fiallo
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2018 6:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] google chrome guide

Thanks. What about New incognito Window and new window? What do they do?

-Original Message- 
From: David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 6:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] google chrome guide

Hi all.
Here is my tutorial on using the Chrome browser pasted right below this 
line.
Tutorial for Using the Google Chrome Browser
By David Moore
This tutorial will be done with the latest update of Chrome.
I will also use JAWS 18 and NVDA 2017.2for this tutorial, because they both 
work the same in Chrome.
Finally, I will use Windows 10 Creators Update latest public build.
I will assume that you have downloaded and installed Chrome.
There should be a shortcut on your desktop.

Section One:
Launching Chrome:
One way to Launch Chrome, is to press the Windows key or CTRL+Escape and 
type Chrome in the search edit field, and press enter when you hear JAWS say 
Chrome.
However, since you have already downloaded Chrome, You will have a shortcut 
icon on your desktop.
So next, find the shortcut for Chrome on your desktop, and press enter to 
open Chrome.
The short cut will actually say Google Chrome, so press G to find the Google 
Chrome icon on your desktop.
The first very important step, is to press Windows+up arrow to maximise the 
window. Chrome often opens with the window not maximise, and you will get 
undesirable results.

Section Two:
Bringing up a web site.
Press CTRL+L or Alt+D
and type the following:
www.freedomscientific.com
The Freedom Scientific web site comes up very quickly.
All navigation commands like: H for heading, E for edit field, C for combo 
box, and so on all work just the same in Chrome.

Section Three:
The Virticle Chrome menu:
I will press the Alt key.
The Chrome menu is open.
This is a very large virticle menu that you just keep pressing up and down 
arrow through.
I will press insert+up arrow to hear the first option in this menu.
New Tab, CTRL+T.
You can press that command right from the web site you are on.
New Window, CTRL+N
You can press these commands right from your web page, instead of coming 
here.
New incognito Window.
History sub menu.
I will press right arrow here to see what is in this sub menu!
History, CTRL+H
So, there is a key command for reading your history.
You can read a few sites you were on right here.
I will press left arrow to close this history sub menu.
Downloads, CTRL+J
There is the command for opening your downloads you have downloaded with 
Chrome.
Next, the important Bookmarks sub menu.
I will press right arrow, to open this.
I hear, bookmark this page, CTRL+D
That command will bookmark the page you are reading.
Next down arrow, says show bookmarks bar, CTRL+Shift+B
That command, will show your bookmarks on your Chrome browser for all to 
see. I do not want that.
Here is the important one.
manage bookmarks
The command is, CTRL+Shift+O
In here, you can organize your bookmarks into folders, see the bookmarks you 
have imported from different browsers, and very importantly, you can 
download, to your computer, an HTML file of all of your bookmarks in Chrome.
On your computer, you can press enter on this file, after it downloads, and 
a page will show up in Chrome with a list of all bookmarks you have saved in 
Chrome. This is an awesome way to download all of your bookmarks right to 
your computer, so you can back them up.
That is all for manage bookmarks.
Next, I hear import bookmarks and settings.
press enter on this, and you can import all bookmarks and settings from IE, 
and Firefox, right into Google Chrome, and they will be in their 
corresponding folders.
Now, I hear all of my saved bookmarks as I continue to arrow down.
Very important!
Sometimes, when I open that bookmarks sub menu, I do not land on the choices 
I mension here, but instead, I start hearing my saved bookmarks. If this 
happens, I press up arrow a few times, and it gets me to these choices.
Keep in mind, that many of these choices, like bookmark manager, have key 
commands, so you do not have to come to this bookmarks sub menu at all. You 
only need to come here most of the time, to arrow through your saved 
bookmarks, and enter on the desired one.
To save a web site as a bookmark,
Just press CTRL+D and press enter, and your bookmark is saved.
I will now press left arrow, to close the Bookmarks sub menu!
I will continue to down arrow through this virticle Chrome menu that we 
entered by just pressing alt.
The next few are very self explanatory.
The next one I will mension, is the more tools submenu.
I will press right arrow on this.
I 

Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds, temperature and JAWS

[Dennis Long]

What programs are accessible that will say the temperatures of the hard
drive and your processors?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 7:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds,
temperature and JAWS

Hey everyone.

 

So, I am running an AMD with six processors rated at, apparently, around
3500 MHZ. My system has 8 GB of Ram and is running Windows 10, 1803, and
JAWS 18. My preferred voice is the premium Daniel Vocalizer voice. Yes,
these specs are all relevant to the topic.

 

For some time now, I have noticed a certain tendency of my system to lag, or
lock up, for several seconds at a time. This only seems to happen when JAWS
is running. I'm aware that my choice to use this synth does negatively
affect JAWS response time, even on this reasonably fast system. Anyway, the
"freezes" seem to affect some programmes more than others, but perhaps
particularly Firefox and MS Office products. Sometimes, alt-tabbing between
open windows seems rather sluggish.

 

Well, today I ran a utility from a company called Resplendent Software
called WhySoSlow. It's basically one of dozens of diagnostic software tools
available, that measures your computer's performance by calculating various
factors. It measures your CPU speed, memory load, and the temperature of
your CPUs using the sensors that modern PCs have. The system was running at
a cool 20-something celsius. It was also running at less than half its
advertised clockspeed, the programme informed me, and suggested that my CPUs
were being "throttled" to conserve power. 

 

Now, I'm aware that some of these third party utilities measure specs in
weird ways, or make strange and not always advisable recommendations. I've
completely gone off using registry cleaners or any such tools for this
reason. I'm also aware that modern CPUs can "clock up" when the load on them
becomes particularly intensive, but I don't know how well Windows for
instance actually manages this feature. However, I decided to try a little
experiment. I remembered fiddling a bit with the power settings in Windows
10 previously, but not to any great extent - mostly just to prevent my
computer from "going to sleep" when left unattended. In the "power plan"
settings within power options, I adjusted the power plan from "balanced", to
"optimise for performance", to see if it would make a difference.

 

I then ran WhySoSlow again. My computer is now operating at peak processor
speed, all of the time. I suppose it's also using a hell of a lot more
power, which might not be a good thing. It's also not "running cool"
anymore. In fact, the CPU temperature has doubled all across the board,
reaching as high as 65 C, according to this programme (even higher according
to the coretemp utility).

 

However - JAWS is now behaving much more responsively. I haven't had any
freezes. Alt-tab cycles between programmes nearly instantaneously, and
Firefox seems much faster.

 

I don't really have a question for the list. I just thought this was kind of
an interesting thing to share, and wondered if anyone else had observed
anything similar. It is a fact that with my current setup I am normally at a
speed disadvantage when placed against sighted users. This is, I believe, in
part because JAWS is somewhat resource-intensive, especially using this type
of synthesiser (yes, I have considered switching back to Eloquence). I'm not
sure if I ought to keep my setup this way. I don't particularly want a
really high power bill and I don't want my computer to overheat, though in
theory the automatic cutoffs should engage before anything really bad
happens. I actually think it's nice that Windows includes power saving
features, but not necessarily at the expense of system performance.

 

 

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