Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.

[Christine Murphy]

Increasing frustrations with Internet Explorer are leading me to think about
giving Chrome a try.  

I'm interested in hearing more detail about this tutorial.  

General information about how much of a learning curve to expect using JAWS
and Chrome would be great.  I hope there are menus that one can navigate
using the ALT key and ARROW keys.  I am aware there may be certain JAWS
settings for Chrome too.

Thanks very much!


Christine Murphy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 3:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.

Hi!
Definitely Google Chrome browser. JAWS is very snappy in Chrome, and the
Chrome browser loads pages and handles downloads very quickly. I have a
tutorial on Using Google Chrome, a Text tutorial, that is very up to date if
you guys want it.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Laura Richardson
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 6:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.

For those of us who didn't stay with Win 7 and moved to Win 10, what browser
works best with Jaws 18?

Laura


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 4:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.

I agree!  But Chrome also works well with Win 7.

Andy

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From: "Adrian Spratt" <adr...@adrianspratt.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.


> For those who kept Win7, as I was strongly urged to by an expert in the 
> field, IE11 still works well.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
> Behalf Of Judy Jones
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 3:49 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Anoying Internet Explorer.
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I made reference to this question in another e-mail, but I am wondering if

> others are experiencing this.
>
>
>
> I am using IE 11 on a Toshiba laptop with Windows 10 creator edition. 
> Even before that, though, IE seems to get hung up often when trying to 
> load.  All of a sudden I lose either speech, or the web page won't resolve

> itself, then I get some kind of problem message with IE that differs 
> slightly from one incident to another, with the final announcement that IE

> is closing.
> Sometimes closing the program puts me where I want to be on the site in 
> the first place, but not always.
>
>
>
> Are there any helps for this?  IS this the way IE interfaces with Jaws, or

> is this just IE not getting support?
>
>
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
>
>
> Judy
>
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[JAWS-Users] Recurring problem: JAWS not speaking at logon screen after Windows 10 updates

[Christine Murphy]

Hello Everyone,

 

I'm using Windows 10 with JAWS version 17.0.2729.  

 

I'm seeking input regarding a recurring problem that I'm experiencing when
Windows 10 updates have taken place.

 

Whenever there has been a Windows 10 update, JAWS does not speak at the
logon screen.  I cannot tell when the logon screen appears and when it is
ready to receive my Windows password.  I cannot tell if anything is
happening if I do enter something and try to TAB to the OK button.

 

Needless to say, this makes logging on to my PC impossible at these times
without sighted assistance.  

 

My husband who is sighted has helped me deal wit this.  We have called the
Microsoft Accessible Help line.  They said that somehow JAWS gets corrupted
when there are Windows 10 updates, and that we should uninstall and
reinstall JAWS making sure to set JAWS to speak at the logon screen.  

 

Doing those things solves the problem until another Windows 10 update
occurs.  There was a Windows 10 update recently.  We will need to go through
the process of uninstalling and reinstalling JAWS for the thirdtime.

 

I'm wondering if others among you have experienced these difficulties.  I'm
also wondering if there is a newer version of JAWS that does not have this
problem with Windows 10 updates.  I've read of so many problems with JAWS
2018 that I'm hesitant to upgrade to it at this point.  

 

I don't know how someone without sighted assistance would deal with the
frustrations that Ihave described.  Repeatedly waiting around for sighted
help to fix a recurring problem such as this shouldn't be acceptable.

 

 

As a comment, I want to also say that I'm finding the discussion of screen
readers and web browsers interesting.  I admit that having to become skilled
using different screen readers and web browsers, and to keep assessing which
screen reader/web browser combination works with various websites is very
discouraging.  I use Internet Explorer.  Even the NY Times is crashing more
now than it did previously.  I usually get done what I need to but I admit
that I'm definitely less technically adept than many of you. 

 

Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer.  

 

Christine Murphy

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] memo for the group

[Christine Murphy]

I was bounced from the list last night but I reinstated myself today without a 
problem.  I use Gmail.  

Chris Murphy



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 3:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] memo for the group

We have been hit in the past by email providers bouncing messages from this 
domain, but today ranks as the worst in our history. We lost 162 members today 
just under 25% of our total subscribers. Almost all of them were using GMail 
with a couple of other ISPs thrown in for good measure. 

We have never had a problem with GMail before but they sure made up for it this 
morning. 

If anybody has contact with one of the people who have been removed ask them to 
contact GMail if they can and ask this domain be placed on their white list or 
whatever they happen to call it. 

A few more days like this and there won’t be much of a point in going on. 

I remember as a little boy my dad saying you can’t fight city hall. In this 
case you can’t fight being black listed. 
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Audible or Book Share

[Christine Murphy]

I find the Audible web site quite accessible using JAWS.  

Another very nice thing about Audible is that they have many courses
produced by The Teaching Company in the Great Courses series.  They cover a
wide range of topics.  I've acquired several by using an Audible credit or
by purchasing one on sale.  This is a great way to revisit something you may
have studied previously or to learn about a new topic that is of interest.
This is an excellent deal.

Chris Murphy

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Pursley
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 6:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Audible or Book Share

Audible has professional actors reading their books.  Most Audible books are
commercial audiobooks but somee are actually commissioned by audible.  JAWS,
thankfully, does not read Audible books nor is their a need for it to read
them.  NBookshare is another horse entirely.  The plus about bookshare is
that it comes in text, with speech and it's cheap.  I've found its coverage
not generally to my liking.  Audible is only speech, and should be
considered more of a bookstore than the library that bookshare is.
Bookshare's original purpose, I think, was to provide educational materials
while Audible's is to make money by providing a wide variety of reading
materials.

I get by with Audible and NLS just fine;  they supply me with more books to
my liking than I can possibly read. By the way, Audible's Platinum
subscription provides 24 books a year for $229, less than 10 bucks per book.
On 1/20/2017 11:41 AM, Justin Williams wrote:
> Does audible just have books with the strange speaking voice, or can 
> you read their books with jaws?
>   Justin
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Theodore Cooke
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 7:39 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Audible or Book Share
>
> I've been using audible regularly for about 5 months now and find it's 
> great. There's some obscure titles it doesn't have, but that's not 
> surprising.
>
> When displaying search results, They don't use headings, so I do a 
> control f for the word wish. Other than that, it's pretty straight
forward.
>
> On 1/18/17, Adrian Spratt  wrote:
>> Kindle is an Amazon product, and Audible is now an Amazon division.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of Scorpio
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 7:02 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Audible or Book Share
>>
>> Both are extremely accessible, however, Audible is an audiobook 
>> service, and Bookshare is solely and E-book service.  By E-book, I 
>> mean you can download in text format, E-Pub format and synthetic 
>> speech.  I don't believe that Audible has E-book service, as I am a
> member, and have never seen that.
>> They say you can get the Kindle edition of the audiobooks they sell, 
>> but there is a separate cost for that.
>>
>> Either way, good luck on what ever option you choose.
>>
>> Scorpio
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Tammy
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 1:21 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Audible or Book Share
>>
>> I use Book Share.  Yes, it Is accessible with Jaws.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of George Martinez
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 11:44 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Audible or Book Share
>>
>> Hi All,
>> I am considering joining an eBook service.  Are Audible and Book 
>> Share both accessible?  Any other comments about them would be
appreciated.
>> Thanks,
>> George
>>
>> 
>> "Whatever you are, be a good one."  ~ Abraham Lincoln 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[Christine Murphy]

Hi David,

I've found this list to be a very valuable resource for many years.  I've 
learned so much!  I'd be very disappointed if it is ended.  

It's reassuring to know the list is here.  Sharing information significantly 
reduces time and frustration trying to find solutions to problems.  People's 
technical skills vary and a list such as this helps us all learn from one 
another.  

Thank you!

Chris Murphy

  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 3:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the past 
several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and earlier this 
year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com cast and others have 
done the same. 

It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old this 
week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself. 

Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about the 
way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. The fact 
is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in business, I suppose 
that would be an interesting study. 

Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates. 
David Ferrin
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