Re: [JAWS-Users] Question regarding release date of jaws 11

2009-10-21 Thread David Patricia Ferrin
Everybody running XP should download the 32 bit version. This is a fact. The 
Vista people who have 64 bit systems most likely know that particular bit of 
information. The thing is the 64 bit version won't install on a 32 bit 
system and the reverse is also true.

David Ferrin
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From: Marilyn Walker mlw1...@sbcglobal.net

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Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Question regarding release date of jaws 11



Rick, which version should we download?  I wish FS gave some info on these
choices.  marilyn


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Suggestion

2009-02-28 Thread David Patricia Ferrin

Agreed
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From: Jack jlow...@neo.rr.com

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Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 2:56 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Suggestion



Ok this isn't really all that serious, but I'd like to make a suggestion.
before someone replies to an email that's already had several replies, 
would

you please go through all your mail to make sure that the answer to a
question hasn't already been given?  I've seen at least 10 replies to the
calculator question.  This is just list clutter.  Like I said, it's not 
that
serious, but there's no need to reply to an email that's already had 
several

replies to it already.
Jack
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Re: [JAWS-Users] the avg firewall

2009-02-26 Thread David Patricia Ferrin
It's a bit of a pain all right. I did run in to another guy who had the same 
issue I am experiencing this morning as a matter of fact.

David Ferrin
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the avg firewall



Not had that problem here David.

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Subject: [JAWS-Users] the avg firewall


I'm still having an issue with this animal in that after it is all
configured and my local network is working fine after some unspecified
period of time it decides to mark my network card as unsafe disabling my
local area network. I can fix it of course but it is bothersome to say the
least. Now this does not effect the internet availability at all. I'd like
to bye this product but not at this point so any help will be very 
welcome.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] New Member

2009-01-28 Thread David A Ferrin
Now Donnie you know that this isn't a good subject line. Never the less I
too welcome all of the new members that we've been getting of late, the 
current total is 433 BTW.
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New Member


Hi Jack.  I am your neighbor in Kentucky.  My name is Donnie.  I live about
75 miles southeast of
Lexington.  Where in Ohio do you live?



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Hello Everyone,

I'm a new member to this group, and I wanted to introduce myself.  My name
is Jack.  I've been a JAWS user since 1999.  I started out with Jaws 3.0.
I'm now using Jaws 10.  I'm 45 years old and I live in Ohio.  I'll keep this
brief so as not to take up your time.  I hope to learn from others and share
what I know where I'm able.
Jack


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Re: [JAWS-Users] USB sound card on lap top

2009-01-28 Thread David A Ferrin
http://www.jaws-users.com/text/JAWS/UsingJAWSWithMultipleSoundCards.html
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From: Ann byrne ann...@sbcglobal.net
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Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 7:26 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] USB sound card on lap top


My hero bought me a USB sound card for my lap top, the thought being
to run the speakers through the card and JAWS through the onboard
sound.  I have not installed the card.  How do I explain to it that I
want media to go through it and JAWS not to?  I think I remember that
in Winamp yu could direct output somewhere other than the onboard
sound, but I'm using Windows Media Payer--and the regular Windows
sounds, as well.

Anybody comfortable with this scenario and could tell me how???

Much thanks,

Ann

Hi Rich,
I'm interested to know what shortcut you use to bring up JAWS in
older version.

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Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS short cut


Hi all.
  I have XP home and 10.00.
I have a shortcut to turn JAWS on.
I just noticed that when I use the shortcut key that my older
version of JAWS 9.0 comes up.
Also, my system tray had the 9.0 version in it. So I unchecked that
particular option.

My desk top has both versions showing.
I deleted the 9.0 desk top, but the shortcut key did not work. So,
I brought the 9.0 version back to the desk top.

Is there a way of merging the 10.0 so the shortcut key brings the
newer version?

Thanks so much.

Rich

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Office 2007 with JAWS--willVRStreamread the DAISY book?

2009-01-15 Thread David Patricia Ferrin
You do not need such an animal. I thought that somebody else asked that 
question.

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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Office 2007 with 
JAWS--willVRStreamread the DAISY book?




I don't have a VR Stream.

Arianna
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JAWS--willVRStream

read the DAISY book?


If memory serves you can listen to it any where you wish.
David Ferrin
I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one 
up

too.
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VRStream read the DAISY book?


Can I read the DAISY book on the Victor Strea, or do I have to use
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[JAWS-Users] another mile stone has been reached

2008-10-26 Thread David Patricia Ferrin
If anybody is interested we've once again hit the 400 mark of subscribers to 
this list. Personally I'm impressed once again.
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[JAWS-Users] memo to both list of high importence

2008-01-27 Thread David Patricia Ferrin
I just spoke to my web provider, he told me that the new server should be 
installed soon although he didn't give me a time table as of yet but he said he 
would. So what this means for those of you out there is that the web site is 
going to be down for a while unfortunately until the current situation is 
finally resolved. The lists are not effected at this time. You'll know more 
when I know more. 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] anti spyware

2007-11-08 Thread David A Ferrin
The full version should over write the beta just fine.
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I've got the beta version installed.
Should I remove it before installing the real deal, or will things be
overwritten OK?


Sunny Day
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I just placed the full version of spy bot 1.5 up on the server for download
if anybody is interested.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] anti spyware

2007-11-08 Thread David A Ferrin
Either way should be fine, yours is the safe method for sure.
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I usually uninstall and install if it a beta to release but that's just my 
way of doing things.

SAG

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Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 4:32 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] anti spyware


The full version should over write the beta just fine.
David Ferrin
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From: Maria Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 12:37 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] anti spyware


I've got the beta version installed.
Should I remove it before installing the real deal, or will things be
overwritten OK?


Sunny Day
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May lead someone to You.


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I just placed the full version of spy bot 1.5 up on the server for download
if anybody is interested.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] scripts for the latest yahoo messenger

2007-11-06 Thread David A Ferrin
They are in my possession but unfortunately I've been under the whether and 
as such haven't linked them on the server yet.
David Ferrin
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] scripts for the latest yahoo messenger


Hello. I was wondering if anyone has the scripts for the latest yahoo 
messenger. I've downloaded the scritps from jaws-users.com, and for some 
reason they haven't worked for me. Any help would be appreciated. thanks.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] What's New in JAWS 9 Audio recording posted

2007-11-06 Thread David A Ferrin
The link has worked perfectly for me several times for testing purposes.
David Ferrin
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Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 5:43 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What's New in JAWS 9 Audio recording posted


I have tried to download the .zip file containing the .mp3 file for which a
link is provided in this message at least 6 times.  Every time, the download
just stops with no explanation.  Each failure has been anywhere from 2% to
99% complete.

Kinda puts me in the mind of.oh well, never mind.  You don't wanna hear
it.


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Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 4:07 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] What's New in JAWS 9 Audio recording posted


All,

As we get nearer to the release of JAWS 9, one of the things we create
to go with the product is a DAISY book on what's new in the version.
This book installs from the Program CD when you get it and you can
review this DAISY Book with the FS Reader Demo product that is used to
do all the training material shipped with JAWS.

We also provide mp3 files for most of our training material if you would
like to listen to it on the go and today, we posted the mp3 version of
the What's New recording on the JAWS headquarters page. If you'd like to
give it a listen, you can download it now from:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/JAWS_HQ.asp

Regards,
Eric Damery
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Re: [JAWS-Users] scripts for the latest yahoo messenger

2007-11-06 Thread David A Ferrin
I am on the mend and hope to post them in a day or 2, soon as I can sit here 
long enough to write the code.
David Ferrin
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Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] scripts for the latest yahoo messenger


Hi David,
 I hope you are on the mend soon.

God bless,
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Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] scripts for the latest yahoo messenger


 They are in my possession but unfortunately I've been under the whether
 and
 as such haven't linked them on the server yet.
 David Ferrin
 www.jaws-users.com
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 Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 6:36 AM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] scripts for the latest yahoo messenger


 Hello. I was wondering if anyone has the scripts for the latest yahoo
 messenger. I've downloaded the scritps from jaws-users.com, and for some
 reason they haven't worked for me. Any help would be appreciated. thanks.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] word 2000 and the most recent patch to 9

2007-11-06 Thread David A Ferrin
Did you inform them of that particular issue you are having?
David Ferrin
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Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] word 2000 and the most recent patch to 9


David

That is correct, sir.  Now if they could only fix the bug where you want to
save or save as a Word file so JAWS will read the letters in the box.

Al

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Subject: [JAWS-Users] word 2000 and the most recent patch to 9


Well I must say good job for as far as this system goes what ever the bug
was with the normal.dot file was it has been fixed, thank you. I can now
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Re: [JAWS-Users] word 2000 and the most recent patch to 9

2007-11-06 Thread David A Ferrin
Honestly I don't know because as a rule the only thing I use word for on a 
regular basis is to reformat text cutting out hard returns and so forth 
prior to pasting it back in to notepad for conversion to HTML. I can check 
though and see what happens on this end.
David Ferrin
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David

Yes on a couple of l.  I know you use the same program  Are you having the
same issue?  It was fine in JAWS 8 and prior

thanks
Al

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Did you inform them of that particular issue you are having?
David Ferrin
 www.jaws-users.com
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] word 2000 and the most recent patch to 9


David

That is correct, sir.  Now if they could only fix the bug where you want to
save or save as a Word file so JAWS will read the letters in the box.

Al

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Subject: [JAWS-Users] word 2000 and the most recent patch to 9


Well I must say good job for as far as this system goes what ever the bug
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Re: [JAWS-Users] word 2000 and the most recent patch to 9

2007-11-06 Thread David A Ferrin
I just tried out what you suggested and wasn't able to reproduce the problem 
myself, but possibly somebody else will be able.
David Ferrin
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Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] word 2000 and the most recent patch to 9


David

Yes on a couple of l.  I know you use the same program  Are you having the
same issue?  It was fine in JAWS 8 and prior

thanks
Al

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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] word 2000 and the most recent patch to 9


Did you inform them of that particular issue you are having?
David Ferrin
 www.jaws-users.com
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] word 2000 and the most recent patch to 9


David

That is correct, sir.  Now if they could only fix the bug where you want to
save or save as a Word file so JAWS will read the letters in the box.

Al

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Subject: [JAWS-Users] word 2000 and the most recent patch to 9


Well I must say good job for as far as this system goes what ever the bug
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws9.0.467 beta

2007-11-06 Thread David A Ferrin
No problem here in that regard at all.
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Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 11:41 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws9.0.467 beta


well, is anybody having lock-ups with the latest beta release? i have
had two so far when pressing insert+j then a for the about screen and
the only to recover is to reset the system. the system stops
responding to any keystrokes and speech stops. all processes that
were running continue to run but i don't have any control or speech.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading beyond ...

2007-11-05 Thread David A Ferrin
Enter.
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading beyond ...


Recently I was in my address book looking at a long name followed by the
person's email address.  I wanted to read the email address by character and
was using the JAWS cursor to do so when it encountered the ... at the end
indicating there was some truncated text.  What is the key command or how
can you get JAWS to read the rest that doesn't show?

thanks
Al


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Re: [JAWS-Users] What's New in JAWS 9 Audio recording posted

2007-11-04 Thread David A Ferrin
That's exactly how it is done, good show.
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Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What's New in JAWS 9 Audio recording posted


Hi, David.  Sometimes when I get alink for a song or file, I select the
link, copy it to the clipboard and paste it into my web browser and it
works.
Rosemarie

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 Either try copying the link to the clipboard and paste it in to the run
 dialog box or hit alt+shift+H first then try hitting enter on it again.
 David Ferrin
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 Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 3:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What's New in JAWS 9 Audio recording posted


 Link not working.  I tried clicking on the link in Eric's posting and got
 nowhere.
 Just pressing Enter on that link should work but it doesn't.

 John Justice
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 Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 4:07 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] What's New in JAWS 9 Audio recording posted


 All,

 As we get nearer to the release of JAWS 9, one of the things we create
 to go with the product is a DAISY book on what's new in the version.
 This book installs from the Program CD when you get it and you can
 review this DAISY Book with the FS Reader Demo product that is used to
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 We also provide mp3 files for most of our training material if you would
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 the What's New recording on the JAWS headquarters page. If you'd like to
 give it a listen, you can download it now from:
 http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/JAWS_HQ.asp

 Regards,
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Re: [JAWS-Users] skype and most recent jaws scripts

2007-11-03 Thread David A Ferrin
Yes.
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Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 9:48 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] skype and most recent jaws scripts


I upgraded to I think the most recent version of Skype v3.5... I want to 
download and install the correct version of the scripts from the jaws users 
page. Is it the last skype script in the list that I need which is number 16 
in the (jfw-skr550.exe) list? Thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS application problem

2007-11-01 Thread David A Ferrin
Nothing like that has happened to me as of yet, I don't recall anybody else 
reporting this either.
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS application problem



Hi list:

I'm currently running the latest in JAWS beta 9 and get from time to time a
message that states, application JAWS has encountered an error and must now
close. Has anyone else had this? After JAWS closes, it is a major pain
getting JAWS up and running again. Thanks
Catalina and Tristan
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] test


 This is a test. Thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] What's New in JAWS 9 Audio recording posted

2007-11-01 Thread David A Ferrin
Thank you, I'll do just that very thing here shortly.
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Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 5:07 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] What's New in JAWS 9 Audio recording posted


All,

As we get nearer to the release of JAWS 9, one of the things we create
to go with the product is a DAISY book on what's new in the version.
This book installs from the Program CD when you get it and you can
review this DAISY Book with the FS Reader Demo product that is used to
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Regards,
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Re: [JAWS-Users] about t he Jaws and skype?

2007-10-31 Thread David A Ferrin
I'm not awake yet today, but that page is scheduled to go up on the web 
site, thanks.
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] about t he Jaws and skype?


You may want to review the following page:
http://www.dlee.org/skype/
Regards,
Eric

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Either install the skype scripts or download a program called SKRead from 
the group web site.
David Ferrin
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] about t he Jaws and skype?


hey! everyone,
 how can I make Jaws anounce thatwho online / login in skype?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2000 JAWS 9

2007-10-30 Thread David A Ferrin
Yes as a matter of fact I am having the same exact problem, I just thought 
it was on this end.
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] Word 2000  JAWS 9


I'm using MS Word 2000 as part of the Office 2000 package and have tried all
the beta versions on JAWS 9  Anyone having trouble opening a new or existing
Word document?  At both home and work I'm consistently getting messages to
changed the default template and also  getting 2 or 3 recovered blank
documents opening.  I've reported this to FS but just wondering if anyone
else is seeing similar issues?

thanks
Al


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2000 JAWS 9

2007-10-30 Thread David A Ferrin
That's good to hear, it just never crossed my mind that it was a jaws issue. 
Never the less I just deleted the normal.dot file and launched word without 
a glitch this time around.
David Ferrin
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2000  JAWS 9


Something is going on with Word 2000 and we have reproduced it now in
our Test lab. We will be tasking a developer to work on this during the
week and hope to have some improvements coming. The Object Model in Word
has changed quite a bit since the Word 2000 release and it is a bit of a
challenge to avoid breaking thinks in one version while improving them
in newer versions.
Regards,
Eric

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Thank you, I will give it a try.
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Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:25 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2000  JAWS 9


Sometimes the normal.dot template does get messed up.  If you can
find it and delete it, Word will rebuild it correctly.  It should be
about 26k in size.  I had one once that was 250k.  After I wiped it
out, though, Word worked much better.
At 04:22 AM 10/30/2007, you wrote:
I'm using MS Word 2000 as part of the Office 2000 package and have
tried
all
the beta versions on JAWS 9  Anyone having trouble opening a new or
existing
Word document?  At both home and work I'm consistently getting messages
to
changed the default template and also  getting 2 or 3 recovered blank
documents opening.  I've reported this to FS but just wondering if
anyone
else is seeing similar issues?

thanks
Al


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2000 JAWS 9

2007-10-30 Thread David A Ferrin
Well it looks like I spoke too soon. Now word opens up seemingly fine but 
after closing it and then launching the program again and repeating the 
process issues still happen. Good luck to the developer. Thanks for 
following along Eric.
David Ferrin
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- Original Message - 
From: David A Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2000  JAWS 9


That's good to hear, it just never crossed my mind that it was a jaws issue.
Never the less I just deleted the normal.dot file and launched word without
a glitch this time around.
David Ferrin
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- Original Message - 
From: Eric Damery [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2000  JAWS 9


Something is going on with Word 2000 and we have reproduced it now in
our Test lab. We will be tasking a developer to work on this during the
week and hope to have some improvements coming. The Object Model in Word
has changed quite a bit since the Word 2000 release and it is a bit of a
challenge to avoid breaking thinks in one version while improving them
in newer versions.
Regards,
Eric

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David A
Ferrin
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 10:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2000  JAWS 9

Thank you, I will give it a try.
David Ferrin
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- Original Message -
From: Ann Byrne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:25 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2000  JAWS 9


Sometimes the normal.dot template does get messed up.  If you can
find it and delete it, Word will rebuild it correctly.  It should be
about 26k in size.  I had one once that was 250k.  After I wiped it
out, though, Word worked much better.
At 04:22 AM 10/30/2007, you wrote:
I'm using MS Word 2000 as part of the Office 2000 package and have
tried
all
the beta versions on JAWS 9  Anyone having trouble opening a new or
existing
Word document?  At both home and work I'm consistently getting messages
to
changed the default template and also  getting 2 or 3 recovered blank
documents opening.  I've reported this to FS but just wondering if
anyone
else is seeing similar issues?

thanks
Al


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Re: [JAWS-Users] ares scripts

2007-10-29 Thread David A Ferrin
The scripts aren't up there right now, but I suppose they'll make it back up 
to the server today some time. Consider this if you would, in my opinion the 
author's credibility is in question so far as I am concerned.
David Ferrin
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From: John R.  guide dog Iris TAFN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 3:34 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] ares scripts


Hi david and everyone

I've been to the jaws users website and tried to download the ares program
and it told me when I tried to open it that there is a Trojan horse in there
and said it installed but it didn't david is my computer being too
over-pre-tective?
also I can't find where the scripts are for ares on there please can you
help with that as well

from John and guide dog Iris

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Re: [JAWS-Users] OpenOffice_Portable_2.0.4_en-us.paf.exe

2007-10-29 Thread David A Ferrin
That's kind of what I was afraid of and also the reason I didn't rush to 
upload the beast to the server. I have an unlimited account but I'm not 
going to waste disk space or band with for stuff that doesn't work, thank 
you.
David Ferrin
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- Original Message - 
From: Demetry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] OpenOffice_Portable_2.0.4_en-us.paf.exe


Hi David,

On Monday, October 29, 2007 3:07 PM - David Ferrin wrote:
 I have had this program sitting in what I call a staging area waiting for 
 uploading to the server but  before sending a 66 mega byte program up 
 there I would like to know if anybody out there knows  for sure or not if 
 it is accessible. Again the file name is as follows:

So far I know is the office package NOT accessible for the screen reader 
users. I hear the main menu and lots of function are developed with oder in 
java...

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Re: [JAWS-Users] ares

2007-10-28 Thread David A Ferrin
Yes I have.
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Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 1:13 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ares


hello, have u uploaded the program also? and thanks for this great work
which you are doing on the site, take care, regards, ashish
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] ares


 I've got the program and will put it on the server in the near future for
 anybody who is interested.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jfw scripts for cheating on exams for schooljaws-users!

2007-10-28 Thread David A Ferrin
Well this isn't what I like to see first thing in the morning folks. Kind of 
makes me want to go back to bed, but since I am up this topic is being shut 
down.
David Ferrin
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- Original Message - 
From: oriol gómez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 6:46 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jfw scripts for cheating on exams for 
schooljaws-users!


Hello everyone.
I have made a set of scripts for cheating on exams/test. The scripts
work like this. When you press one of the different hotkeys to give an
answer, control 1 through 7, control shift 1 to control shift 7,
control f1 through f12 and control shift f1 through f12, once or twice
quickly, jaws will speak a different answer without showing anything
on the screen. I have been using these for 2 years now, and never got
caught. Mine are for wordpad , but they can be used with any other
application by just renaming the files to the application we want. The
scripts give more than 70 answers, and what I usually do is grab my
notes file, copy one line, paste it, press backspace and space bar so
there is no line break between a sentence and another because if
there's a break the script will will show a compile error message. You
can put in as much information as you want in each hot key slot, but
it can get tedious to get through a lot of information from just one
key, so what I do is put different small bits of information in the
different keys. I never used up all of my keys, but if anyone needs
more slots, just tell me and I will definetly do something about it.
if anyone is interested in using these scripts, contact me off list.
my adress is
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Postscriptum: If someone has a better way to copy the notes to the
script, like using an ini file, please contact me. I've been trying to
do this but never figured it out. Thanks!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] the ares program

2007-10-28 Thread David A Ferrin
The link works perfectly with IE7, there is no way for me to confirm or deny 
anything regarding Firefox.
David Ferrin
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- Original Message - 
From: Marijan Janev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 6:39 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the ares program


I just tried to download the Aries from the site, but no success. All
the time I get problem loading page in Firefox. Is it my firefox or
something with the link?
By the way, does anybody here have any experience with mixpad from
David's site? The text file in the zip says very interesting thing, but
I'd like to know if the mixpad is jaws friendly.
thanks very much in advance, friends!
All the best!
Marijan
Маријан

David Ferrin said the following on 27.10.2007 23:50:
 It is linked up on the server right now folks, happy downloading. Now it's 
 time to do something else for me at least, TTYL.
 David Ferrin



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Re: [JAWS-Users] jfw scripts for cheating on exams for school jaws-users!

2007-10-28 Thread David A Ferrin
I shut this topic down already, that means there will be no more discussion.
David Ferrin
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- Original Message - 
From: Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jfw scripts for cheating on exams for school 
jaws-users!


So you go through life as a phoney. good thing your only in school
and not college, because if was then your a frod. Either you don't
have what it takes to learn or you like the chance of jail.
What happens when some one asks you something on a topic you got good
grades in?, or you just shut up?
And I thought releasing dozens of drunks in the streets for a white
Cain march was disgracing us blind. your showing we're also cheaters!

At 06:46 AM 10/28/2007, you wrote:
Hello everyone.
I have made a set of scripts for cheating on exams/test. The scripts
work like this. When you press one of the different hotkeys to give an
answer, control 1 through 7, control shift 1 to control shift 7,
control f1 through f12 and control shift f1 through f12, once or twice
quickly, jaws will speak a different answer without showing anything
on the screen. I have been using these for 2 years now, and never got
caught. Mine are for wordpad , but they can be used with any other
application by just renaming the files to the application we want. The
scripts give more than 70 answers, and what I usually do is grab my
notes file, copy one line, paste it, press backspace and space bar so
there is no line break between a sentence and another because if
there's a break the script will will show a compile error message. You
can put in as much information as you want in each hot key slot, but
it can get tedious to get through a lot of information from just one
key, so what I do is put different small bits of information in the
different keys. I never used up all of my keys, but if anyone needs
more slots, just tell me and I will definetly do something about it.
if anyone is interested in using these scripts, contact me off list.
my adress is
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Postscriptum: If someone has a better way to copy the notes to the
script, like using an ini file, please contact me. I've been trying to
do this but never figured it out. Thanks!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jfw scripts for cheating on examsfor schooljaws-users! is closed

2007-10-28 Thread David A Ferrin
I stated earlier that there is not to be any further discussion on this 
topic, please heed the management team.
David Ferrin
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- Original Message - 
From: Rosemarie Chavarria [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jfw scripts for cheating on examsfor 
schooljaws-users!


Wow.  Aren't you afraid you'll get caught?
Rosemarie

- Original Message - 
From: Alan  Terrie Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 4:39 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jfw scripts for cheating on exams for
schooljaws-users!


 Is this a legitimate topic for this list?  Personally I don't find it so
 but
 would be interested to hear the comment of the moderators or other
 members?


 thanks
 Al

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of oriol gomez
 Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 6:47 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] jfw scripts for cheating on exams for school
 jaws-users!


 Hello everyone.
 I have made a set of scripts for cheating on exams/test. The scripts
 work like this. When you press one of the different hotkeys to give an
 answer, control 1 through 7, control shift 1 to control shift 7,
 control f1 through f12 and control shift f1 through f12, once or twice
 quickly, jaws will speak a different answer without showing anything
 on the screen. I have been using these for 2 years now, and never got
 caught. Mine are for wordpad , but they can be used with any other
 application by just renaming the files to the application we want. The
 scripts give more than 70 answers, and what I usually do is grab my
 notes file, copy one line, paste it, press backspace and space bar so
 there is no line break between a sentence and another because if
 there's a break the script will will show a compile error message. You
 can put in as much information as you want in each hot key slot, but
 it can get tedious to get through a lot of information from just one
 key, so what I do is put different small bits of information in the
 different keys. I never used up all of my keys, but if anyone needs
 more slots, just tell me and I will definetly do something about it.
 if anyone is interested in using these scripts, contact me off list.
 my adress is
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Postscriptum: If someone has a better way to copy the notes to the
 script, like using an ini file, please contact me. I've been trying to
 do this but never figured it out. Thanks!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] remembering different information with scripts

2007-10-28 Thread David A Ferrin
This is a more correct subject line as I am sure Reinhard has a better 
purpose to ask about.
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- Original Message - 
From: Reinhard Stebner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 3:14 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] remembering different information with scripts was 
RE:jfw scripts for cheating on exams for school jaws-users!


I like the idea of remember differnat info using jfw sdripts.  Do you know
if there is a way to dynamically intert items in to keybord short cuts?  I
am thinking of doing this for a programming assignment where I have problems
remembering what is in each var at a time.  I can rmemeber numbers much
better then names.  My idea is that while walking through a  piece of code
that one would place info in a var assigen to a script and use it when I
need to remember it aain leter in the program.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of oriol gómez
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 5:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jfw scripts for cheating on exams for school
jaws-users!

Hello everyone.
I have made a set of scripts for cheating on exams/test. The scripts
work like this. When you press one of the different hotkeys to give an
answer, control 1 through 7, control shift 1 to control shift 7,
control f1 through f12 and control shift f1 through f12, once or twice
quickly, jaws will speak a different answer without showing anything
on the screen. I have been using these for 2 years now, and never got
caught. Mine are for wordpad , but they can be used with any other
application by just renaming the files to the application we want. The
scripts give more than 70 answers, and what I usually do is grab my
notes file, copy one line, paste it, press backspace and space bar so
there is no line break between a sentence and another because if
there's a break the script will will show a compile error message. You
can put in as much information as you want in each hot key slot, but
it can get tedious to get through a lot of information from just one
key, so what I do is put different small bits of information in the
different keys. I never used up all of my keys, but if anyone needs
more slots, just tell me and I will definetly do something about it.
if anyone is interested in using these scripts, contact me off list.
my adress is
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Postscriptum: If someone has a better way to copy the notes to the
script, like using an ini file, please contact me. I've been trying to
do this but never figured it out. Thanks!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Lost Messages

2007-10-28 Thread David A Ferrin
You're set to receive regular mail delivery according to the database. Also 
you may get this twice since I am sending a carbon copy to you privately.
David Ferrin
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Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 6:44 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Lost Messages


I've sent two other messages to this list in the last hour and 3 quarters
and neither has arrived yet.  I'm wondering what i'm doing wrong


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Re: [JAWS-Users] I have made jfw scripts for ares

2007-10-27 Thread David A Ferrin
You may contact me at the following address:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

That's the address I use for pretty much all list business.
David Ferrin
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From: oriol gómez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 3:04 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I have made jfw scripts for ares


Yes, ares is a file sharing program, in my opinion better than some of
the other programs out there like bear share. It's faster, has more
content and I find pretty much everything I want. The scripts I have
made are basic, work in all languages of the program and allow you to
control the program without using the jaws cursor at all, which was
necessary until now.

Sure, you can put these scripts on the website. I'll have to send you
the old version of ares as well because it doesn't seem to be
available anymore. Just give me a way to get to you and I'll send you
the files.
Oriol

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Quicken

2007-10-27 Thread David A Ferrin
My information is that the last version JAWS has support for is Quicken 2003 
or earlier.
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From: Catalina and Tristan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 8:45 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Quicken


Hi to the list:

How well does JAWS 9.0 work with Quicken and what version of Quicken? Thanks

Catalina and Tristan
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Possible bug with how Jaws 9 reads in Windows Explorer

2007-10-27 Thread David A Ferrin
Sorry Jamie but I can't reproduce the problem here at all. JAWS reads the 
list of files and or folders correctly no matter which method I use. Never 
the less welcome to the list as you are a fairly new subscriber to the 
group.
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Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 11:42 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Possible bug with how Jaws 9 reads in Windows Explorer


I want to run this one by the list in case it is either a known issue or has
already been reported assuming I am not the only person who can duplicate
this.

Steps to reproduce:

1. Press Windows key+R to open the run dialog and type c:.

2. Type pr to move to program files and press enter.

3.  Use arrow keys to confirm that Jaws reads the list of files and folders
properly.

4. Type the letter G to move to the GoldWave folder. Notice that Jaws stops
speaking. The up and down arrow keys no longer read as they should, but read
current line always yields the desired result.

5. Close this window with Alt+F4

6. Press Windows key+E to launch my computer.

7. Open program files and use letter commands to jump to the desired folder.
Open it if you wish with right arrow. Notice that Jaws reads properly.

8. Close all windows in Windows Explorer with the left-arrow key. This time
use the tab key to move into the list of files and folders and again follow
steps 2 through 4. Notice that you get the same result.

Jamie Pauls
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Outlook 2003
Internet Explorer 7
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Quicken

2007-10-27 Thread David A Ferrin
It is financial management software for keeping track of your banking needs 
ETC.
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From: 鍾智明 ming [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Quicken


hey! what is Quicken and how does it work?
--- Catalina and Tristan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 說:

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 How well does JAWS 9.0 work with Quicken and what
 version of Quicken? Thanks

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Windows backup utilities

2007-10-27 Thread David A Ferrin
Karen's replicator is up there along with same dir I believe it's called. 
Both are very good and completely free. I use replicator all of the time, in 
fact I used it to place the program up on the server.
David Ferrin
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Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 10:16 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Windows backup utilities


Hi folks,

I spent some time on both the Jaws-users and the blind-computing web sites
searching for a Jaws friendly Windows backup utility to no avail.

Any good suggestions?

TNX

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Re: [JAWS-Users] eloquence and Jaws

2007-10-27 Thread David A Ferrin
I just placed his header information in my dictionary and set it to simply 
say his name, no problem.
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From: Flor Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] eloquence and Jaws


Whatever, the version of Eloquence used by JAWS is not the same as that one.
Not everybody is enamoured of it either.

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Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] eloquence and Jaws


it  is the 15  October of Main Meneu.
Jeff demonstrate  the Victor Reader  stream.
and he mention  that the test to speech synthesizer is
the brand new eloquence.
please go to
http://www.acbradio.org/archives/mainmenu/mm306.m3u
to listen his demonstration !
--- Arya [EMAIL PROTECTED] 說:

 Hello  Ming -
 Can you please give us the date of that
 presentation?.
 If  possible can you give the link  for that
 presentation ?.
 With Cheers.
 In a day, when you don't come across any problems,
 -you can be sure that
 you are travelling in the wrong path -.  .
 SWAMI  -  VIVEKANANDHA .
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 Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 6:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] eloquence and Jaws


  Hello Ming.  Your title is driving my Jaws crazy.
 It's reading like you
  had
  your Capslock on or something.  For the sake of
 sanity and Jaws users,
  could
  you create another e-mail identity?  How about
 just Ming?
 
  John Justice
  - Original Message - 
  From: 鍾智明 ming [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: jaws jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 10:40 AM
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] eloquence and Jaws
 
 
  hi everyone,
  have anyone heard about the brand new eloquence
  synthesizer.
  I have heard Jeff demonstrate it inthe Main Menu
 show!
  does anyone know that will it ship in to the Jaws
 9.0
  or not?
  I think this synthesizer is really good!
  it like the real speech synthesizer!
  and its voices are very nice!
 
  Ming
 
  Tel: (852) 6421 9950
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with Adobe Reader 8.1 link

2007-10-27 Thread David A Ferrin
I just checked the link on the web site and it is working perfectly.
David Ferrin
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To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 12:59 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem with Adobe Reader 8.1 link


Hi all,
has anyone had problems downloading Adobe Reader 8.1? I gave a direct link
from the JAWS users programmes page, and there's been reports of an HTTP 404
not found error message being displayed when the link was clicked. It seemed
to be working on my machine though, so maybe it's just gone down, I don't
know. Thanks in advance.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] missplaced crap remover

2007-10-27 Thread David A Ferrin
The file is up on the programs page already free for download.
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From: Sun Sounds of Arizona [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 4:14 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] missplaced crap remover


On this list, maybe two weeks ago, someone posted a crap
removal program.  I was planning to download a copy and try
it, but have apparently erased the original message.  I just
remember that he was scolded for using the quoted word which
is part of the program's name.  Anybody have that url?

Thanks,
Bill



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Re: [JAWS-Users] ares

2007-10-27 Thread David A Ferrin
I am told it is some sort of file sharing program, but before I link it on 
the server I will need confirmation that it is free for personal use.
David Ferrin
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From: Devona Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ares


What is it?
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  Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 4:12 PM
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] ares


  I've got the program and will put it on the server in the near future for 
anybody who is interested.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 9 beta and windows live messenger

2007-10-26 Thread David A Ferrin
Ming my friend, I must inquire as to why your messages always ask if I want
to download something or another. If this is something you can turn off then
I must insist upon it.
David Ferrin
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From: 鍾智明 ming [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 9 beta and windows live messenger


 thanks!
 --- Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] »¡¡G

  hi.  You should see if this hhappens after first
  shutting down, and restarting windows live
  messenger. No need to reboot the whole computer,
  at least not yet, but I'm talking about just
  shutting down, and restarting windows live
  messenger.
 
  then if that doesn't work, restart JAWS. if that
  *still* doesn't do it, submit a beta bug
  report.  Remember, this isn't the full release
  yet, so if you  have a significant problem with
  the beta, FS needs to know about it so they can try
  to address it.
 
 
   At 03:16 AM 10/26/2007, you
  wrote:
  Hi, Live messenger interface language is
  english? Artur - Original Message - 
  From: ?¾æ™º??ming
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws
  jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday,
  October 26, 2007 4:20 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users]
  Jaws 9 beta and the window live messenger  hey!
  everyone,  this is Ming again .  I have tried
  the Jaws 9 beta and find that it can not 
  automatically read the incoming message in
  windows  live messenger.  I have check
  the  verboscity and everything is right!  how
  can I fix the problem ?   Ming   Tel: (852)
  6421 9950   MSN/ windows  Lives
  messenger:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 9 beta and windows live messenger

2007-10-26 Thread David A Ferrin
It must have something to do with the fact it's a foreign language kind of 
thing I guess. At any rate with luck it will be something correctable.
David Ferrin
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- Original Message - 
From: Siobhan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 9 beta and windows live messenger


David, it's funny but i was just about to write you privately about this.
Anyway I thnk this person is writing inChinese, whether simple or I don't
remember the other type, but I don't know if they can turn off the Internet
explorer thing asking for them to not notify others todownload the algnauge
pack.  I'm with you though and find it very annoying.  I apologize if that
came across a little rude, we all knwo jaws is anything but politically
correct lol.
- Original Message - 
From: David A Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 9 beta and windows live messenger


 Ming my friend, I must inquire as to why your messages always ask if I
 want
 to download something or another. If this is something you can turn off
 then
 I must insist upon it.
 David Ferrin
 - Original Message - 
 From: 鍾智明 ming [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 10:24 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 9 beta and windows live messenger


 thanks!
 --- Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] »¡¡G

  hi.  You should see if this hhappens after first
  shutting down, and restarting windows live
  messenger. No need to reboot the whole computer,
  at least not yet, but I'm talking about just
  shutting down, and restarting windows live
  messenger.
 
  then if that doesn't work, restart JAWS. if that
  *still* doesn't do it, submit a beta bug
  report.  Remember, this isn't the full release
  yet, so if you  have a significant problem with
  the beta, FS needs to know about it so they can try
  to address it.
 
 
   At 03:16 AM 10/26/2007, you
  wrote:
  Hi, Live messenger interface language is
  english? Artur - Original Message - 
  From: ?¾æ™º??ming
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws
  jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday,
  October 26, 2007 4:20 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users]
  Jaws 9 beta and the window live messenger  hey!
  everyone,  this is Ming again .  I have tried
  the Jaws 9 beta and find that it can not 
  automatically read the incoming message in
  windows  live messenger.  I have check
  the  verboscity and everything is right!  how
  can I fix the problem ?   Ming   Tel: (852)
  6421 9950   MSN/ windows  Lives
  messenger:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
  Skype: chungchiming9950   Visit my blog/ Xanga
  at: 
  http://www.xanga.com/chungchiming   
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 9 beta and windows live messenger

2007-10-26 Thread David A Ferrin
Oh I am proud and a little amazed just how far and wide this thing has 
grown. The count stands at 372 counting the archives right now.
David Ferrin
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- Original Message - 
From: Flor Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 9 beta and windows live messenger


Hmmm.  I think the simplest thing to do is download the required fonts.
However, there is some way to turn off the Internet Explorer
install-on-demand dialogues, in Internet Options, but that's done at the
receiver's - or our - end.  I seem to have downloaded the simplified Chinese
stuff some time ago - perhaps I was looking as some English-language Chinese
newspaper online!  For the moment, be proud that this list has gone truly
international!

- Original Message - 
From: David A Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 9 beta and windows live messenger


It must have something to do with the fact it's a foreign language kind of
thing I guess. At any rate with luck it will be something correctable.
David Ferrin
 www.jaws-users.com
- Original Message - 
From: Siobhan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 9 beta and windows live messenger


David, it's funny but i was just about to write you privately about this.
Anyway I thnk this person is writing inChinese, whether simple or I don't
remember the other type, but I don't know if they can turn off the Internet
explorer thing asking for them to not notify others todownload the algnauge
pack.  I'm with you though and find it very annoying.  I apologize if that
came across a little rude, we all knwo jaws is anything but politically
correct lol.
- Original Message - 
From: David A Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 9 beta and windows live messenger


 Ming my friend, I must inquire as to why your messages always ask if I
 want
 to download something or another. If this is something you can turn off
 then
 I must insist upon it.
 David Ferrin
 - Original Message - 
 From: 鍾智明 ming [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 10:24 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 9 beta and windows live messenger


 thanks!
 --- Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] »¡¡G

  hi.  You should see if this hhappens after first
  shutting down, and restarting windows live
  messenger. No need to reboot the whole computer,
  at least not yet, but I'm talking about just
  shutting down, and restarting windows live
  messenger.
 
  then if that doesn't work, restart JAWS. if that
  *still* doesn't do it, submit a beta bug
  report.  Remember, this isn't the full release
  yet, so if you  have a significant problem with
  the beta, FS needs to know about it so they can try
  to address it.
 
 
   At 03:16 AM 10/26/2007, you
  wrote:
  Hi, Live messenger interface language is
  english? Artur - Original Message - 
  From: ?¾æ™º??ming
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws
  jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday,
  October 26, 2007 4:20 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users]
  Jaws 9 beta and the window live messenger  hey!
  everyone,  this is Ming again .  I have tried
  the Jaws 9 beta and find that it can not 
  automatically read the incoming message in
  windows  live messenger.  I have check
  the  verboscity and everything is right!  how
  can I fix the problem ?   Ming   Tel: (852)
  6421 9950   MSN/ windows  Lives
  messenger:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
  Skype: chungchiming9950   Visit my blog/ Xanga
  at: 
  http://www.xanga.com/chungchiming   
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Re: [JAWS-Users] I have made jfw scripts for ares

2007-10-26 Thread David A Ferrin
What is this program that you are talking about do? If you like I can place 
the scripts on the web site, but of course that is up to you.
David Ferrin
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Hello everyone!
I have just finished coding a set of jaws scripts for ares 2.0, this
is the old most accessible version. If anybody is interested, send me
an email and I will send them right away!
Oriol.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] unify braille

2007-10-25 Thread David A Ferrin
I agree that it's not exactly a JAWS topic, but interesting never the less.
David Ferrin
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unify braille


 Hi,

 Not exactly a JAWS topic, but I'll answer because I think UEBC is in JAWS
9
 and there are bound to be some questions.

 UEBC stands for the Unified English Braille Code.  That is, all English
 Speaking countries are, theoretically anyway, supposed to be gradually
 adopting this code.  Indeed, some English Speaking countries, such as
 Australia, already have adopted it.  This means that, whatever English
 country you live in, Braille should, theoretically, look and feel pretty
 much the same.

 To this end, not many changes have been made, at least where I live in
 England.  The only things you will need to be made aware of are a few
 contractions which no longer exist, such as dot6y and dot6n.  Also,
 contractions which previously had more than one interpretation depending
on
 context, such as dots356 (was/by) now only have one interpretation.  This
 means that signs such as dots235 (to) no longer exist and to should be
 written out in full.  The final change which UK citizens may find
irritating
 is that the capital sign is now obligatory.  The US nemeth mathematics
code
 has not been adopted in UEBC, meaning that US citizens will need to
re-learn
 Braille mathematics if/when UEBC is adopted.  This is, I think, the main
 reason why the US has not adopted it; the main reason for the UK not
 adopting it is, of course, the obligatory nature of the capital sign.

 Now, having said all that, I am in no way an expert on the intricacies of
 UEBC; what I have said here is all that I know.  I hope this is helpful
 information anyway.  I would suggest visiting websites such as
 www.bauk.org.uk
 or
 www.brailleauthority.org
 for more detailed information.

 Matthew



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Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to select a link on Jaws home page

2007-10-24 Thread David A Ferrin
The main page is setup with standard links, but the sub pages such as
scripts ETC are designed to open up in a new window. The reason for that is
so when you close out the page it will return you to exactly where you were
in the first place. Please indicate a specific link so as to make it
possible to accurately diagnose your problem.
David Ferrin
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 Sorry about the vagueness of my request.  I am referring to the Jaws home
 link.  It has nothing to do with Freedom scientific

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  Good morning List,
 
  Help needed
 
  Problem:  When I visit the JAWS home page and high lite a link and try
to
  enter jaws will say enter but all I get is a click sound but nothing
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Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to select a link on Jaws home page

2007-10-24 Thread David A Ferrin
Hold down the shift key when you hit enter on that last link to by pass your
pop up blocker. I figured this would come up sooner or later, you're the
first. I'm surprised it didn't come up before now as it's been at least a
month or more since I made the change over.
David Ferrin
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to select a link on Jaws home page


 Here are the steps I have taken so far

 1. JAWS home page

 2. Picked audio tutorial  and pressed enter ok so far

 3. Picked email pressed enter ok

 4. Picked message rules and tried to enter and received the click
sound

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  Good morning List,
 
  Help needed
 
  Problem:  When I visit the JAWS home page and high lite a link and try
to
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Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to select a link on Jaws home page

2007-10-24 Thread David A Ferrin
Good to hear that it did. It has something to do with your pop up blocker
settings, but now you know what the by pass key is so there shouldn't be any
further trouble. It will also work on any other web sites as well.
David Ferrin
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 That did the trick, thank you David
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  Good morning List,
 
  Help needed
 
  Problem:  When I visit the JAWS home page and high lite a link and try
to
  enter jaws will say enter but all I get is a click sound but nothing
  happens.  Any help or suggestions would be appreciated   Joe
 
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to select a link on Jaws home page

2007-10-24 Thread David A Ferrin
Because I've set those links to open in a new window for the following
reason. Now when you close said window you are returned to the same spot on
the main index that you were on previously. Before the make over so to speak
every time you would return to the main index page such as programs for
example it would kick you back to the top. This was getting tiring for me
every time I would be testing out new links and so forth.
David Ferrin
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 Please excuse my ignorance, but why would that particular level cause the
 pop-up blocker to kick in?


 Sunny Day
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 That Your great love displayed in me
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  Good to hear that it did. It has something to do with your pop up
blocker
  settings, but now you know what the by pass key is so there shouldn't be
  any
  further trouble. It will also work on any other web sites as well.
  David Ferrin
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  That did the trick, thank you David
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  Subject: [JAWS-Users] unable to select a link on Jaws home page
 
 
   Good morning List,
  
   Help needed
  
   Problem:  When I visit the JAWS home page and high lite a link and
try
  to
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   happens.  Any help or suggestions would be appreciated   Joe
  
  
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Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to select a link on Jaws home page

2007-10-24 Thread David A Ferrin
Yes I know all of that, but the return link at the bottom of every page did
kick me back to the top, and I figured if that annoyed me it probably
bothered other people as well.
David Ferrin
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Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to select a link on Jaws home page


 Hi David,

 You Said:

 every time you would return to the main index page such as programs for
 example it would kick you back to the top. This was getting tiring for me

 ***
 Why did that happen?

 When you click a link that takes you to another page, pressing the back
 keystroke will take you back to the link you clicked, or rather, it should
 take you back there.

 Whenever I'm surfing a particular site, and need to explore, in other
words
 go through every page to see where the information is that I need, if the
 page I land on doesn't happen to be the page I'm looking for, I press the
 alt+left arrow keystroke, and that takes me back to the link I initially
 clicked on.

 Is your computer configured differently?

 It's actually kind of weird.

 This same keystroke is supposed to do the same thing for explorer windows
 roaming through your files.  For example, if you're going through a list
of
 files in your my documents folder, which may contain 89 folders, you enter
 on the 48th folder to see what's in it, you should be able to press the
key
 combination of alt+left arrow, and it will take you back to the 48th
folder
 you entered on.

 At least, that's what's supposed to happen, but I find on my laptop, it
 doesn't, but it does on my desktop, or any other desktop computer I've
ever
 worked with.

 Personally, I think there's a setting I need to tweak, but I just haven't
 found it yet.

 In any case, were you using the keystroke to go through your WebPages, or
 were you using the backspace key?

 Victor


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Re: [JAWS-Users] One question.

2007-10-23 Thread David A Ferrin
Please remember to make subject lines more relevant and descriptive in the
future, thank you.
David Ferrin
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] One question.


 I am using Jaws 8.0.2173 with Windows Vista business edition and I would
like to get rid of the mouse over stuff that keeps repeating when on the
Internet. I've tried everything I could think of, but I can't seem to stop
hearing that mouse over stuff. Thanks for your help, and I promise not to
bother you with trivial stuff.
 Sincerely,
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Re: [JAWS-Users] One question. is not a good subject line

2007-10-23 Thread David A Ferrin
Yes it does, but like I asked earlier folks subject lines need to be more
clearly spelled out please.
David Ferrin
- Original Message - 
From: FRDoug Dunlap [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] One question.


 Hi Chris,

 Does that work with XP Home Edition with JAWS 8

 Thanks
 Fr Doug

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris
 Hallsworth
 Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 9:53 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] One question.

 1. Open Configuration Manager with insert 6.
 2. Press alt s, followed by h. The HTML options dialogue box appears.
 3. Shift control tab once to move to the misc page, and look for a check
box

 that talks about element attributes. Uncheck that box with space, and
press
 enter.
 4. Press either control s or alt F4 and answer yes at the prompt to save
 your changes.
 Hope that helps.
 Chris Hallsworth
 BrailleNote mPower user
 Website: www.chrishallsworth.co.nr
 - Original Message - 
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 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 3:39 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] One question.


 I am using Jaws 8.0.2173 with Windows Vista business edition and I would
 like to get rid of the mouse over stuff that keeps repeating when on the
 Internet. I've tried everything I could think of, but I can't seem to stop
 hearing that mouse over stuff. Thanks for your help, and I promise not to
 bother you with trivial stuff.
 Sincerely,
 Priscilla
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Re: [JAWS-Users] OmniPage Pro 16

2007-10-20 Thread David A Ferrin
What he said, I like having a hit man from Ohio on the job.
David Ferrin
- Original Message - 
From: Moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] OmniPage Pro 16


 Hi Lennie,
 I can speak for both myself and David on this matter.
 Yes, the subject is on-topic for the list,
 and it would be great if those involved in it would keep it on list for
the
 benefit of the membership.
 However, anyone is free at any time to take a discussion off-list.
 Thanks,
 Richard Justice-list moderator
 www.jaws-users.com
 Richard Justice-website ownner
 www.blind-computing.com
 - Original Message - 
 From: Lennie Rinaldi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 8:01 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] OmniPage Pro 16


  Hi,
 
  I am currently using OmniPage 15 and I was interested in the new
  version, but I did not upgrade at this time. Since this topic has to
  due with Jaws and OmniPage 16, I think that this topic should remain
  on the list so we all may know if it is really accessible or not.
  (David, I hope that you agree with me?)
 
  Lennie
 
  At 08:53 PM 10/19/2007, you wrote:
 Russell,
 
 Write to me off list and I'll describe in more detail the issues I was
 having.  I don't believe there are others on this list using it so I
don't
 want to clutter the list with this discussion
 
 thanks,
 Al
 
 
 email is:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Russell J.
 Thomas, Jr
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 8:47 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] OmniPage Pro 16
 
 
 I just installed it.  I will check it out.
 
 If you need help, go to their website and download the manual and any
 updates to it.
 
 
 Respectfully,
 
 
 
 Russell J. Thomas, Jr.
 
 THOMAS  ASSOCIATES
 
 Orange County Office
 
 2172 Dupont Drive, Suite 203
 
 Irvine, California 92612
 
 T: (949) 752-0101
 
 F: (949) 257-4756
 
 M: (949) 466-7238
 
 Beverly Hills Office
 
 9107 Wilshire Boulevard, Suite 450
 
 Beverly Hills, California 90210
 
 T: (310) 461-3561
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan 
Terrie
 Robbins
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 4:19 PM
 To: Jaws-Users-List
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] OmniPage Pro 16
 
 Good evening,
 
 I've written to this list a couple of times as well as the blind
computing
 list about the accessibility of the new OmniPage pro 16.  I did not
 receive
 any feedback from anyone.  Since I've used OmniPage Pro for years I
 purchased the upgrade.  It is NOT accessible in many ways and I've
 returned
 the product.  It is the first version that is not.  In fact, JAWS will
not
 even read the help topics, manual, or FAQ's
 
 thanks
 Al
 
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Samantech virus checker

2007-10-18 Thread David A Ferrin
It's been up there for over 24 hours already in fact.
David Ferrin
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From: Francis E. Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Samantech virus checker


Please let us know when you put the program on your server.

Francis Khan
  - Original Message - 
  From: David A Ferrin
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:13 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Samantech virus checker


  Well that's fine since it's the name of the program just like crap cleaner
  is, but I am sure you see where I am going here. Thanks I might grab that
  program myself. How accessible is it, and would I be allowed to put it up 
on
  the site for free download?
  David Ferrin
   www.jaws-users.com
  - Original Message - 
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  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:07 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Samantech virus checker


  There is also a program called, decrapifier that works well with Jaws.
  Sorry about the language David, but that is what the program is called.
  I use it on every new computer I set up and it will remove any or all
  programs that come with a new computer that isn't necessary.
  You can download it here:
  http://pcdecrapifier.com/download
  Denny Huff
  Gateway FT Blind LLC.
  (636) 262-1383


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[JAWS-Users] empty subject lines are stongly disapproved

2007-10-18 Thread David A Ferrin
I think the subject line says it all folks.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Samantech virus checker

2007-10-17 Thread David A Ferrin
Well that's fine since it's the name of the program just like crap cleaner 
is, but I am sure you see where I am going here. Thanks I might grab that 
program myself. How accessible is it, and would I be allowed to put it up on 
the site for free download?
David Ferrin
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From: Denny Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Samantech virus checker


There is also a program called, decrapifier that works well with Jaws.
Sorry about the language David, but that is what the program is called.
I use it on every new computer I set up and it will remove any or all
programs that come with a new computer that isn't necessary.
You can download it here:
http://pcdecrapifier.com/download
Denny Huff
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(636) 262-1383


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Samantech virus checker

2007-10-17 Thread David A Ferrin
let's watch our language please. Remember there are ladies and youngsters on 
here as well.
David Ferrin
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- Original Message - 
From: Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Samantech virus checker


One thing you can look for and pull off is viewpoint media. its
coming in a lot of bundle packs and is nothing but crap spyware. You
will notice a big improvement removing that crap.

At 07:09 AM 10/17/2007, you wrote:
Hi Folks,

My new computer came with Semantic's virus checker installed. Does Jaws
play well with this  program?
I am not particularly pleased with the overall performance of this machine
and I am hoping that by removing a couple of freebys my supplier insisted
upon installing will help.
I have already been through all of the optimizing Jaws for Windows
recommendations.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Samantech virus checker

2007-10-17 Thread David A Ferrin
The link is in Denny's first post.
David Ferrin
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- Original Message - 
From: Larry Stansifer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com; jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Samantech virus checker


Gosh Beaver,

Since we can't say the C word, could somebody please E-mail me the url off
list to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

TNX

At 10:21 AM 10/17/2007 -0400, Lisa wrote:
Hi Denny,
Can this program also be used if the computer isn't new?  There is still
stuff on my computer from when I bought it that I'm sure that I don't need.
How does this program determine what programs are not needed on a computer?
Take care,
Lisa
- Original Message -
From: Denny Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Samantech virus checker


  There is also a program called, decrapifier that works well with Jaws.
  Sorry about the language David, but that is what the program is called.
  I use it on every new computer I set up and it will remove any or all
  programs that come with a new computer that isn't necessary.
  You can download it here:
  http://pcdecrapifier.com/download
  Denny Huff
  Gateway FT Blind LLC.
  (636) 262-1383
 
 
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  Checked by AVG Free Edition.
  Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.13/1074 - Release Date:
  10/16/2007 2:14 PM
 
 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Samantech virus checker

2007-10-17 Thread David A Ferrin
This program will be up on the server very shortly if anybody is interested.
David Ferrin
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- Original Message - 
From: Denny Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Samantech virus checker


There is also a program called, decrapifier that works well with Jaws.
Sorry about the language David, but that is what the program is called.
I use it on every new computer I set up and it will remove any or all
programs that come with a new computer that isn't necessary.
You can download it here:
http://pcdecrapifier.com/download
Denny Huff
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[JAWS-Users] JAWS public Beta build coming later this afternoon

2007-10-17 Thread David A Ferrin
HTML Composition Support
JAWS 9.0 introduces new support for editing in HTML composition environments, 
such as online text editors, Outlook Express, and Outlook 2003 (Outlook 2007 
uses Microsoft Word), editing in Forms mode (input type=text, textarea, 
elements with contenteditable=TRUE etc), and editing in Adobe Flash edit fields.

This new support provides 100 percent accuracy when reading text; the ability 
to use sound schemes to differentiate font, attribute, and color; the ability 
to automatically switch languages when the language of the text is correctly 
marked up; and the ability to hear information when the text is marked up as a 
heading, link, list, table, and so on. For example, when composing a new HTML 
message in Outlook Express or Outlook 2003, you can now select text and format 
it as a heading (level 1 through 6), and JAWS will announce that this text is a 
heading when reading back the composed message. When using online editors, such 
as the sample at http://www.rnib.org.uk/edtest/editor.htm, if you go into Forms 
mode in the editable area, you can now use the ARROW keys to enter the table 
and use table navigation keystrokes to navigate the table and hear row or 
column changes and row or column headings. (Note that you will have to press 
the RIGHT ARROW once and then the DOWN ARROW to navigate past the link in this 
editor.) You can also hear where headings are and the text which belongs to a 
bulleted or auto numbered list.

Finally, JAWS now supports Adobe Flash edit fields. However, you need the 
upcoming Adobe Flash Player update, which can be downloaded from the Adobe 
Flash Player enhancement that appears later on this page. With the current 
release, you can navigate through existing edit field text, but, if you enter 
new text, you must move away from the edit field and then return to the field 
to navigate through the new text.

Improved Support For Gmail
Screen reader users currently get a message on the Gmail page that says, If 
you are using a screen reader, you may wish to switch to basic HTML for a 
better experience. While you will still receive this message when running JAWS 
9.0, it is no longer necessary to follow those instructions as JAWS works with 
the standard Gmail interface, which offers many enhancements over their basic 
HTML page. 

In JAWS versions prior to 9.0, it was necessary to switch Gmail to its basic 
HTML interface or use the JAWS cursor to click the objects on the page that 
were not standard links. These include Inbox, Sent, Compose Mail, Trash, Create 
a Filter, and so on. With our new support for Gmail, these items show up in the 
links list. You can also use the ARROW keys to move to these items and either 
press ENTER to activate them or select the items with the routing buttons on 
your braille display. 

Additionally, prior to JAWS 9.0, you had no way to see some editing attributes 
in the message edit window. For example, you had no way to see if text was a 
heading or even if it was a table when in Forms mode. With our new support for 
Web-based RichEdit controls, you can add attributes to your messages such as 
bold, italic, and underline by using standard JAWS commands in this editor. 
Commands for similar Web-based editors may be different. At this time JAWS does 
not speak the status of these controls when they are activated, but you can use 
the command to get font information to see the attributes. It is also possible 
to see formatting such as list items, both bulleted and numbered lists, heading 
and level, and table information, even in Forms mode with both speech and 
braille. 

Update Enhancements Included as of Build 9.0.396 (17 October 2007)
Thanks to all the public beta testers who identified issues in our initial 
release and reported them so well using the Beta Report form on this page. As a 
result, many of the items were resolved and have been included in this second 
update on October 17th. Others are still under investigation, and we will be 
looking forward to posting more updates soon.

  a.. Resolved the following issues when using a rich text editor for Web 
development: Graphics are now recognized along with meaningful alt text when 
available; the number of items in a list are now announced by JAWS; and 
standard table navigation keystrokes now work correctly. Refer to the HTML 
feature described earlier on this page. 
  b.. JAWS now works with the standard Gmail interface. Refer to the Gmail 
feature described earlier on this page. 
  c.. You can now read HTML tables one row at a time with speech or braille 
when the Document Presentation option is set to Screen Layout (INSERT+V, D, 
SPACEBAR). Previously, there was an issue recognizing the HTML br tag in 
tables when this option was configured for Screen Layout. 
  d.. When using SHIFT+UP ARROW or SHIFT+DOWN ARROW to select multiple e-mail 
messages in Microsoft Outlook Express, JAWS now reads across all columns that 
are highlighted. For example, JAWS 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Vista Business

2007-10-17 Thread David A Ferrin
Actually you have just brought the membership count up to 362 in fact.
David Ferrin
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From: Waqas Hussain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 2:25 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws  Vista Business


Greetings all,

My name is Waqas Hussain and I am probably the newest member on this list.

Apologies if this question has already been discussed on this forum.
Basically, I am in the process of replacing my PC and laptop and am
considering getting machines build on a Windows Vista Business platform. I
have been advised by the Jaws dealer here in the UK that Jaws 8 is fully
compatible with Windows Vista Business and that Jaws 9 would be released in
a couple of weeks time which I intend to upgrade from my current Jaws 7.1
version.

I'd much appreciate if someone may like to share there experience with Jaws
8 and Vista business.

Regards

Waqas


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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Samantech virus checker

This program will be up on the server very shortly if anybody is interested.
David Ferrin
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Samantech virus checker


There is also a program called, decrapifier that works well with Jaws.
Sorry about the language David, but that is what the program is called.
I use it on every new computer I set up and it will remove any or all
programs that come with a new computer that isn't necessary.
You can download it here:
http://pcdecrapifier.com/download
Denny Huff
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Restore Point

2007-10-17 Thread David A Ferrin
Sarah did an audio tutorial on this very topic and it can be found on the 
list home page.
David Ferrin
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Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 3:33 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Restore Point


Hi Folks,

Where can I find a current tutorial on setting a restore point in Windows
XP Pro service pack two and Jaws 8? The information I found on both the
Jaws and Blind Computing web sites was pretty dated.

TNX


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Samantech virus checker

2007-10-17 Thread David A Ferrin
I think that the best way to find out is go look, but the short answer is 
yes.
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Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Samantech virus checker


Hey David,
Do you give a short explanation about the programs you have to download?
Patti
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 This program will be up on the server very shortly if anybody is
 interested.
 David Ferrin
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 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Samantech virus checker


 There is also a program called, decrapifier that works well with Jaws.
 Sorry about the language David, but that is what the program is called.
 I use it on every new computer I set up and it will remove any or all
 programs that come with a new computer that isn't necessary.
 You can download it here:
 http://pcdecrapifier.com/download
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Re: [JAWS-Users] external soundcards

2007-10-16 Thread David A Ferrin
If it's a card that you are only planning to run JAWS through then it 
wouldn't need to be a very high end kind of thing so far as that goes at 
least. Personally I use a Turtle Beach external myself without any problem.
David Ferrin
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] external soundcards


I would like to run my jaws speech through one set of speakers.
Then hopefully have everything else run through the other set.
I was wondering if anyone knew what kind of external sound card to purchase.
Thanks in advance
dg



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Re: [JAWS-Users] wireless earphone/headset

2007-10-15 Thread David A Ferrin
My information is that JAWS has no baring on blue tooth systems, so any set 
that will work for you should play nice with jaws.
David Ferrin
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] wireless earphone/headset


The question I have has to do with using the JAWS with a wireless earphone
or headset.  I have Bluetooth capability and I am

Having trouble finding one that will work.  I bought a HP 700 but it was
garbled.  Can anyone help.



Thank you

May God bless you

R Doug

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Re: [JAWS-Users] winamp 5.5

2007-10-12 Thread David A Ferrin
Thank you, this is better for the web site and for me personally as well.
David Ferrin
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Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] winamp 5.5


Hi David

Initially there isn't anything wrong with Winamp 5.5, but if you want
a version that doesn't include all the extra stuff like free
e-music,  you can get a different copy that's the full version, but
doesn't contain all those extras at:
http://fileforum.betanews.com/sendfile/1066336873/1/winamp55_full_en-us.exe
The installer was rewritten for this version, so when you install it,
be careful to read all the screens carefuly, because you're presented
with some new options.
*winamp remote which lets you stream your media library from another 
computer
*new Winamp toolbar for Internet Explorer 7 (I don't know if they'll
release a version for firefox but I bet someone will soon

* a new Id3 tag editor with an album artwork tab, I couldn't get that
particular thing to work with anything on my system,  but it's there.
and lots of other things like improvements in the media library.

Hope that helps.





At 06:40 AM 10/12/2007, you wrote:
I'm looking for feed back on the following file,
winamp55_full_emusic-7plus_en-us.exe. It would seem it is the latest
version of the program as near as I can figure at least. Basically
before I upload it to the server and link it.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] quick time alternative

2007-10-11 Thread David A Ferrin
I have not heard of this program before. If it is accessible like you say 
then I'll go and track it down for posting up on the web site. Can you give 
me any further details on it?
David Ferrin
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Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 1:48 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Maximising Windows automatically


Sorry David
I had not noticed it on the programs page.  It proves what a comprehensive
list of resources you have up there. A treasure trove really and saves a lot
of time trying to see if programs work,

Still I suppose the presence of this program has been advertised to the
list.

On another point I downloaded the excellent real alternative from the jaws
user programs page. This prompted me to look for QuickTime alternative which
also appears to be a good utility from the same source but is not I think on
the page. Have you had a look at QuickTime alternative? It seems much less
invasive than the actual QuickTime. The only problem I found was that you
need to type in manually your destination folder during setup.

I think some encyclopaedias need QuickTime to play media files.
Regards

David Griffith

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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Maximising Windows automatically

It also can be found on the group web site for over a year now. You are
correct in that it is very small and behaves well just sitting in the system
trey. I guess I got tired of editing all of my script files to employ the
auto maximize function, although I still use it for programs that JAWS does
not offer support out of the box so to speak.
David Ferrin
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] Maximising Windows automatically


Dear List

I routinely try to use Jaws with maximised windows as I find it works better
that way. An annoying feature of notepad and IE has been that guaranteeing
that they open in a maximised window can prove difficult.

I can open blank documents in notepad in a maximised window by editing the
shortcut properties but until now I could not force notepad to open
maximised when opening a text file in explorer.

I am just trying a free  utility called autosizer which so far had worked
brilliantly and I have happily been reading text files with notepad opening
automatically in a maximised window when I click on the filename. It
apparently works with Outlook Express as well.

I got it from

http://www.southbaypc.com/AutoSizer/

When run it goes into the system tray so I suppose it should be put in your
startup folder if you want to use it all the time. Seems fairly small and
unobtrusive.

I have only been using it today but it has been very good so far. NOD32
reckons its ok.

Regards

David



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Re: [JAWS-Users] adobe 8.1

2007-10-11 Thread David A Ferrin
You're very welcome.
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Thanks for putting Adobe Reader 8.1 on your server.  I am now downloading 
it.

Francis Khan
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  Subject: [JAWS-Users] adobe 8.1


  If anybody is interested I just put the adobe 8.1 up on the server 
yesterday evening. I heard it is a pain for many people to find so it is up 
there now and much easier to locate.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] system trey not displaying correctly

2007-10-11 Thread David A Ferrin
I knew that of course.
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] system trey not displaying correctly


You can always bring up the Jaws window by doing an insert J.  It would be
the same as opeing it from the sys tray.


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Subject: [JAWS-Users] system trey not displaying correctly

I helped a guy yesterday put jaws in his system trey so as to get it out of
the alt tab order. Now that went perfectly fine. The thing is when he brings
up his system trey with insert+F11 jaws isn't listed in there. Now it
obviously must be in there, of that I have no doubt so far as that goes. The
question is why is it not showing in the list, and how would I get it to
appear?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws-users web site

2007-10-11 Thread David A Ferrin
H, I never heard it described that way, interesting. I wonder if I 
should open up a games page. No it's already a lot of work, but I am glad 
people are enjoying and making good use of the site for sure.
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This is an awesome site!  what a fun place to play!!!


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Re: [JAWS-Users] quick time alternative

2007-10-11 Thread David A Ferrin
Well we'll just need to investigate it here soon.
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Hi David and all.
I'll be interested to get your take on Quick Time.  I remember downloading
it back a couple of years ago, but ended up taking it out because of some
problems I had.Unfortunately, I don't remember the problems, but just that I
did remove it.

Becky

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I have not heard of this program before. If it is accessible like you say
then I'll go and track it down for posting up on the web site. Can you give
me any further details on it?
David Ferrin
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Maximising Windows automatically


Sorry David
I had not noticed it on the programs page.  It proves what a comprehensive
list of resources you have up there. A treasure trove really and saves a lot
of time trying to see if programs work,

Still I suppose the presence of this program has been advertised to the
list.

On another point I downloaded the excellent real alternative from the jaws
user programs page. This prompted me to look for QuickTime alternative which
also appears to be a good utility from the same source but is not I think on
the page. Have you had a look at QuickTime alternative? It seems much less
invasive than the actual QuickTime. The only problem I found was that you
need to type in manually your destination folder during setup.

I think some encyclopaedias need QuickTime to play media files.
Regards

David Griffith

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It also can be found on the group web site for over a year now. You are
correct in that it is very small and behaves well just sitting in the system
trey. I guess I got tired of editing all of my script files to employ the
auto maximize function, although I still use it for programs that JAWS does
not offer support out of the box so to speak.
David Ferrin
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] Maximising Windows automatically


Dear List

I routinely try to use Jaws with maximised windows as I find it works better
that way. An annoying feature of notepad and IE has been that guaranteeing
that they open in a maximised window can prove difficult.

I can open blank documents in notepad in a maximised window by editing the
shortcut properties but until now I could not force notepad to open
maximised when opening a text file in explorer.

I am just trying a free  utility called autosizer which so far had worked
brilliantly and I have happily been reading text files with notepad opening
automatically in a maximised window when I click on the filename. It
apparently works with Outlook Express as well.

I got it from

http://www.southbaypc.com/AutoSizer/

When run it goes into the system tray so I suppose it should be put in your
startup folder if you want to use it all the time. Seems fairly small and
unobtrusive.

I have only been using it today but it has been very good so far. NOD32
reckons its ok.

Regards

David



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Check out this web site folks for some good stuff andtrust me it's completely family friendly

2007-10-11 Thread David A Ferrin
It's also listed at the top of the other items of interest page.
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Hi, David.  I read about the read to me site on another list I belong to.
Thanks for putting it up for us.
Rosemarie

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Re: [JAWS-Users] adobe 8.1

2007-10-11 Thread David A Ferrin
It's the full boat in a single file 22.3 MB.
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Can I ask, is it one of these programmes that can only be installed using
some kind of download server, or is it the full package? I'd like to update
to 8.1, but I'd also like to be able to burn the update onto a CD so that
when there are times when I have no internet access, I can go ahead and
install it without going on to the web first, know what I mean? Thanks in
advance for the help.
Chris Hallsworth
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If anybody is interested I just put the adobe 8.1 up on the server yesterday
evening. I heard it is a pain for many people to find so it is up there now
and much easier to locate.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Voice Shift Key

2007-10-10 Thread David A Ferrin
I was just adjusting my SAPI voice volumes and the strangest thing it seems 
that setting them at 99% is louder than 100%. I have no idea why this is, 
but it doesn't seem to effect the functionality of the voices.
David Ferrin
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Voice  Shift Key


Donnie,
Go to your Jaws window, insert J.
Open options and then voices.
Press enter on, global.
Tab to,
Upper case pitch.
The default is 20%.  Delete that number and type in a higher percent.
Tab to OK.

Denny Huff

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I am needing to make the JAWS voice more distinct sounding when I hold down
the shift key to
capitalize a letter.  How can I make this change?  Thanks for any help that
I receive on this
subject.

See ya,
Donnie

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 9 with outlook 2000

2007-10-10 Thread David A Ferrin
Good to know for sure. I didn't get the impression that version 9 was tested 
very much with Outlook 2000, so that's why I posted my thoughts on it.
David Ferrin
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David, I'm using Outlook 2003 with Jaws 9 and that seems to work just fine
too.
Cheers.
Alex

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I'd just like to point out that the above combination seems to work together
very well. I've been experimenting with the calendar which by the way is
sort of new to me having never messed around with it much and it seems
perfectly fine.
David Ferrin

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Maximising Windows automatically

2007-10-10 Thread David A Ferrin
It also can be found on the group web site for over a year now. You are 
correct in that it is very small and behaves well just sitting in the system 
trey. I guess I got tired of editing all of my script files to employ the 
auto maximize function, although I still use it for programs that JAWS does 
not offer support out of the box so to speak.
David Ferrin
 www.jaws-users.com
- Original Message - 
From: David Griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 6:51 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Maximising Windows automatically


Dear List

I routinely try to use Jaws with maximised windows as I find it works better
that way. An annoying feature of notepad and IE has been that guaranteeing
that they open in a maximised window can prove difficult.

I can open blank documents in notepad in a maximised window by editing the
shortcut properties but until now I could not force notepad to open
maximised when opening a text file in explorer.

I am just trying a free  utility called autosizer which so far had worked
brilliantly and I have happily been reading text files with notepad opening
automatically in a maximised window when I click on the filename. It
apparently works with Outlook Express as well.

I got it from

http://www.southbaypc.com/AutoSizer/

When run it goes into the system tray so I suppose it should be put in your
startup folder if you want to use it all the time. Seems fairly small and
unobtrusive.

I have only been using it today but it has been very good so far. NOD32
reckons its ok.

Regards

David



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-09 Thread David A Ferrin
That's the purpose of this list to help each other out and share 
information, thanks for your in put.
David Ferrin
 www.jaws-users.com
- Original Message - 
From: Doug Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


thanks for that message,  Eric,  I was about to poste that,  so you beat me
to it.
Anyways, if you all need help with JAWS, I'm also happy to help you guys out
on list. P.s my msn messenger contact is also at the bottom of this message
for any of you who wish to add me.
Take care, all.  A loyal JAWS user.
Again, good message eric

- Original Message - 
From: Eric Damery [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 Andy,
 When running in the system tray, pressing INSERT J will give you a
 context menu that contains the all the items normally found in the Menu
 bar of the application window. User up and down arrow to move to the
 items like Help, Utilities, Language, and so on.
 Regards,
 Eric

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Baracco,
 Andrew W
 Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 1:30 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

 The only problem that I have found with running JAWS from the system
 tray is that i can't access all of the menus.  I can only access the
 first list of options.  I cannot, for example, access the utilities or
 help menu.  To do this, i have to leave the JAWS window intact.

 Andy


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rosemarie
 Chavarria
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:26 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

 Hi, Patricia.  I run Jaws from the system tray and it does work really
 great.
 Rosemarie

 - Original Message -
 From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 9:02 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


I agree the system tray is the best without a doubt, just in my
 pursuits of
 freeing up resources is how this thread came up in the first place..


 - Original Message - 
 From: Flor Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 5:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 There is no benefit to be had from it being neither in the System
 Tray
 nor
 on the taskbar, if such were possible (which it isn't).  I like it in
 the
 system Tray, running in the background like some other apps (such as
 antivirus, Juice, etc.).  There are some options it is easier to
 change
 in
 JAWS by having it there, than having to go into the Config Manager
 with
 its
 slews of settings.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 No. I want to have it out of the sys tray, I know how to do this..
 But if it's not in the sys tray then will it show when I alt tab
 around?
 I want it not in the sys tray and I don't want to alt tab and find it
 there
 either, but I do want it to start up at system bootup.
 Is this clear?
 - Original Message - 
From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET],
 Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt
 tab your going to run into it that way?

 Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by
 default
 JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing' to

 that
 window.

 Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and
 without
 it showing up when you alt tab between applications?

 When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options
 menu
 will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options
 tree
 view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'. Press
 Enter
 and tab to 'Run JAWS from System Tray' and check it by pressing the
 Space
 key. Then press Enter, close JAWS like other applications with ALT +
 F4
 and restart it. Now JAWS shouldn't appear as an application window
 on
 your
 screen anymore.

 Was it that what you were looking for?

 Best regards,

 -- 
 Jyrki Voutilainen
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Skype ID: jvoutila


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-09 Thread David A Ferrin
Thank you for the kind words. Actually the list will be 2 years old at the 
end of this week already.
David Ferrin
 www.jaws-users.com
- Original Message - 
From: Rosemarie Chavarria [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


Hi, David

I was on a couple of other Jaws lists but I think this is the best one.
Everybody on here is really great.
Rosemarie

- Original Message - 
From: David A Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 That's the purpose of this list to help each other out and share
 information, thanks for your in put.
 David Ferrin
 www.jaws-users.com
 - Original Message - 
 From: Doug Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 1:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 thanks for that message,  Eric,  I was about to poste that,  so you beat
 me
 to it.
 Anyways, if you all need help with JAWS, I'm also happy to help you guys
 out
 on list. P.s my msn messenger contact is also at the bottom of this
 message
 for any of you who wish to add me.
 Take care, all.  A loyal JAWS user.
 Again, good message eric

 - Original Message - 
 From: Eric Damery [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 12:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 Andy,
 When running in the system tray, pressing INSERT J will give you a
 context menu that contains the all the items normally found in the Menu
 bar of the application window. User up and down arrow to move to the
 items like Help, Utilities, Language, and so on.
 Regards,
 Eric

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Baracco,
 Andrew W
 Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 1:30 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

 The only problem that I have found with running JAWS from the system
 tray is that i can't access all of the menus.  I can only access the
 first list of options.  I cannot, for example, access the utilities or
 help menu.  To do this, i have to leave the JAWS window intact.

 Andy


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rosemarie
 Chavarria
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:26 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

 Hi, Patricia.  I run Jaws from the system tray and it does work really
 great.
 Rosemarie

 - Original Message -
 From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 9:02 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


I agree the system tray is the best without a doubt, just in my
 pursuits of
 freeing up resources is how this thread came up in the first place..


 - Original Message - 
 From: Flor Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 5:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 There is no benefit to be had from it being neither in the System
 Tray
 nor
 on the taskbar, if such were possible (which it isn't).  I like it in
 the
 system Tray, running in the background like some other apps (such as
 antivirus, Juice, etc.).  There are some options it is easier to
 change
 in
 JAWS by having it there, than having to go into the Config Manager
 with
 its
 slews of settings.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 No. I want to have it out of the sys tray, I know how to do this..
 But if it's not in the sys tray then will it show when I alt tab
 around?
 I want it not in the sys tray and I don't want to alt tab and find it
 there
 either, but I do want it to start up at system bootup.
 Is this clear?
 - Original Message - 
From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


 On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET],
 Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt
 tab your going to run into it that way?

 Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by
 default
 JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing' to

 that
 window.

 Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and
 without
 it showing up when you alt tab between applications?

 When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options
 menu
 will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options
 tree
 view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'. Press
 Enter
 and tab

Re: [JAWS-Users] nomail

2007-10-08 Thread David A Ferrin
There is an audio tutorial up on the web site that will answer all questions 
regarding no mail ETC.
David Ferrin
 www.jaws-users.com
- Original Message - 
From: stewartross [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 1:25 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] nomail


hi  can someone tell me how to go nomail on this list many thanks and also
how to join the list wen i am ready. many thanks.

 stewart ross



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Re: [JAWS-Users] new section to the list guidelines

2007-10-08 Thread David A Ferrin
Let's just all make sure to follow this new section please. I removed 
somebody last week for that very reason in fact.
David Ferrin
 www.jaws-users.com
- Original Message - 
From: Rosemarie Chavarria [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new section to the list guidelines


Hi, Flor.  I totally agree with you.  All list should implement this rule.
I can understand an auto-response if you have to be away from work but not
to use it on lists.  I think one time someone on another list sent me an
auto-reply and did that ever irritate me!
Rosemarie

- Original Message - 
From: Flor Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] new section to the list guidelines


 Now if only *all* lists would implement that sort of policy.  I've heard
 of
 people being requested to keep their auto-responders enabled while away
 from
 work; so the ticket then is to unsubscribe from listservs, or have it
 forcibly done to you!

 - Original Message - 
 From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 5:49 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] new section to the list guidelines


 I've just added the following to the list guidelines.

 No auto responders are to be used on this list! Those who use auto
 responders for vacations and so forth must make sure that this list is not
 included. Any person who sends an auto response message will be removed!
 David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-08 Thread David A Ferrin
Yes it takes up resources no matter where it happens to be. Putting it in 
the system trey simply removes it from the alt tab order which for me works 
much better. It is a matter of personal choice is all.
David Ferrin
 www.jaws-users.com
- Original Message - 
From: Devona Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


It is not taking up resources by being system tray?

Devona
  - Original Message - 
  From: Patricia
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:02 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


  I agree the system tray is the best without a doubt, just in my pursuits 
of
  freeing up resources is how this thread came up in the first place..


  - Original Message - 
  From: Flor Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 5:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


   There is no benefit to be had from it being neither in the System Tray 
nor
   on the taskbar, if such were possible (which it isn't).  I like it in 
the
   system Tray, running in the background like some other apps (such as
   antivirus, Juice, etc.).  There are some options it is easier to change 
in
   JAWS by having it there, than having to go into the Config Manager with
   its
   slews of settings.
  
   - Original Message - 
   From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
   Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:34 AM
   Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray
  
  
   No. I want to have it out of the sys tray, I know how to do this..
   But if it's not in the sys tray then will it show when I alt tab around?
   I want it not in the sys tray and I don't want to alt tab and find it
   there
   either, but I do want it to start up at system bootup.
   Is this clear?
   - Original Message - 
  From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
   Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM
   Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray
  
  
   On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET],
   Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt
   tab your going to run into it that way?
  
   Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by default
   JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing' to 
that
   window.
  
   Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and without
   it showing up when you alt tab between applications?
  
   When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options menu
   will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options tree
   view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'. Press
   Enter
   and tab to 'Run JAWS from System Tray' and check it by pressing the 
Space
   key. Then press Enter, close JAWS like other applications with ALT + F4
   and restart it. Now JAWS shouldn't appear as an application window on
   your
   screen anymore.
  
   Was it that what you were looking for?
  
   Best regards,
  
   -- 
   Jyrki Voutilainen
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Skype ID: jvoutila
  
  
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Re: [JAWS-Users] nomail

2007-10-08 Thread David A Ferrin
Obviously if it is still an issue we can take care of it for you, but try it 
yourself first please. That way it cuts down on our work load as you might 
well imagine.
David Ferrin
 www.jaws-users.com
- Original Message - 
From: stewartross [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] nomail


thanks david.
 stewart ross
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From: David A Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] nomail


 There is an audio tutorial up on the web site that will answer all
 questions
 regarding no mail ETC.
 David Ferrin
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 Subject: [JAWS-Users] nomail


 hi  can someone tell me how to go nomail on this list many thanks and also
 how to join the list wen i am ready. many thanks.

 stewart ross



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray

2007-10-08 Thread David A Ferrin
Yes it is possible, in fact I've been doing it that way for several years 
already.
David Ferrin
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Wait a minute. I haven't been following all these threads, but something
David wrote caught my attention. If I could have it in the system tray, but
still have it start up automatically, then I'd have the best of what I
thought were two different worlds. Is this actually possible? Write me off
list if this is old hat; I haven't been following the conversation until
now.
Sharon

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Yes it takes up resources no matter where it happens to be. Putting it in
the system trey simply removes it from the alt tab order which for me works
much better. It is a matter of personal choice is all.
David Ferrin
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It is not taking up resources by being system tray?

Devona
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  Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:02 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray


  I agree the system tray is the best without a doubt, just in my pursuits
of
  freeing up resources is how this thread came up in the first place..


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   There is no benefit to be had from it being neither in the System Tray
nor
   on the taskbar, if such were possible (which it isn't).  I like it in
the
   system Tray, running in the background like some other apps (such as
   antivirus, Juice, etc.).  There are some options it is easier to change
in
   JAWS by having it there, than having to go into the Config Manager with
   its
   slews of settings.
  
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   Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:34 AM
   Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray
  
  
   No. I want to have it out of the sys tray, I know how to do this..
   But if it's not in the sys tray then will it show when I alt tab around?
   I want it not in the sys tray and I don't want to alt tab and find it
   there
   either, but I do want it to start up at system bootup.
   Is this clear?
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   Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:05 PM
   Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws in System Tray
  
  
   On Monday, October 08, 2007 4:32 AM [GMT+1=CET],
   Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   If you don't put jaws in your sys-tray does this mean when you alt
   tab your going to run into it that way?
  
   Don't know if I really caught what you are looking for, but by default
   JAWS is actually shown in an application window when 'alttabbing' to
that
   window.
  
   Can you have jaws start up without it in the systems tray and without
   it showing up when you alt tab between applications?
  
   When being in the JAWS window, press the ALT key, when the Options menu
   will appear, and then arrow once to the right to open the Options tree
   view. The first option in the tree view should be 'Basics...'. Press
   Enter
   and tab to 'Run JAWS from System Tray' and check it by pressing the
Space
   key. Then press Enter, close JAWS like other applications with ALT + F4
   and restart it. Now JAWS shouldn't appear as an application window on
   your
   screen anymore.
  
   Was it that what you were looking for?
  
   Best regards,
  
   --
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   Skype ID: jvoutila
  
  
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Re: [JAWS-Users] new section to the list guidelines

2007-10-08 Thread David A Ferrin
Yes I can of course, but the fact is if you don't know what such a thing is 
then most likely you'll never use one. Basically some people who work in 
offices can set their systems to reply to any and all email messages with a 
standard response for example I'll be out of the office for the following 
days. This isn't good to send such automatic messages to a mailing list 
because it would be never ending. Besides it makes list owners very angry as 
you can imagine cluttering up the list with garbage to say the least.
David Ferrin
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Can you tell me what is this?  Thanks,
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 I've just added the following to the list guidelines.

 No auto responders are to be used on this list! Those who use auto
 responders for vacations and so forth must make sure that this list is not
 included. Any person who sends an auto response message will be removed!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] how accessible is office 2007?

2007-10-06 Thread David A Ferrin
According to Freedom Scientific it is very accessible. I suggest you check 
out their web site for more information.
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Considering purchasing a new Office or Works suite and wondered if anyone 
uses Office 2007 with Jaws.  I'm using Jaws 9 Beta most of the time but also 
have Jaws 8 and XP home.  Thanks for any input about most accessible 
packages that include Microsoft Word.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Antivirus Software and JAWS 8.0/9.0

2007-10-06 Thread David A Ferrin
AVG is very accessible and at under $40 for a 2 year license pretty 
reasonable.
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] Antivirus Software and JAWS 8.0/9.0


Hello everyone,

I currently have Nortan Anti Virus installed on my Vista laptop, but as has
already been discussed here it is not accessible with JAWS.  Our Nortan
subscription is up for renewal soon, so I thought I'd look into other
compirable programs.

I was wondering...Are there any good antivirus programs (not necessairally
free ones) that are accessible with JAWS?  I'd rather have accessabillity
and not need sighted help every time the Nortan window comes up.

Thanks for any suggestions,
Michael


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Antivirus Software and JAWS 8.0/9.0

2007-10-06 Thread David A Ferrin
No it won't.
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Antivirus Software and JAWS 8.0/9.0


I Have a question might be a dumb one, but what if your computer is on
stand-by will it still get the updates?

PEACE

John Carvalho
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I set it to automatically update every day at a time I prefer and it does
 its thing without my intervening.  marilyn


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Antivirus Software and JAWS 8.0/9.0

2007-10-06 Thread David A Ferrin
No I don't, sorry.
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Hi David,

Do you know about the level of accessabillity of AVG Internet Security...The
all-in-one?

Thanks
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 AVG is very accessible and at under $40 for a 2 year license pretty
 reasonable.
 David Ferrin
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 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Antivirus Software and JAWS 8.0/9.0


 Hello everyone,

 I currently have Nortan Anti Virus installed on my Vista laptop, but as
 has
 already been discussed here it is not accessible with JAWS.  Our Nortan
 subscription is up for renewal soon, so I thought I'd look into other
 compirable programs.

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 free ones) that are accessible with JAWS?  I'd rather have accessabillity
 and not need sighted help every time the Nortan window comes up.

 Thanks for any suggestions,
 Michael


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Re: [JAWS-Users] I need help with a web sight of a friend of mine

2007-10-05 Thread David A Ferrin
Like I said on the blind computing list discussion of this or any other
offensive material will not be allowed on this or any other list I manage.
I'll remove people if I have to if this thread is continued.

David Ferrin



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Subject: [JAWS-Users] I need help with a web sight of a friend of mine


Hello all listers. I am wondering weather some people from this list can
please do me a favor. I have a friend of mine her name is Kimmey who has
created
a web page and it is
http://www.lovingexpressions.net/joomla/
Now she has created a chat room with a program cald UTchat  This chat room
doesn't seem to be to blind user friendly where jaws is concerned when it
comes
to chatting that is why I am thinking that some jaws scripting might be in
order to make this chat accessible for the blind people. my friend is not
blind
her self but she is trying to make this sight as accessible for blind people
as possible. Could some one please E Male her or better yet go to the sight
and assess it for it's accessibility?  or possibly maybe help her out with
scripting if it needs to be dun where jaws is concerned and making the web
sight
accessible? Her I Male to contact her is
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Many Thanks. from Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Correction FW: JAWSBeta JAWS 9.0.356 Private Beta isavailable!

2007-10-05 Thread David A Ferrin
I don't know about him but I could sure use a few after this week.
David Ferrin
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Correction FW: JAWSBeta JAWS 9.0.356 Private Beta 
isavailable!


maybe he's already had too many! lol!


Legend has it that on Friday 10/5/2007 06:31 PM, Rick Harmon said:
Go have a margarita Eric, looks like you need one lol.

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- Original Message -
From: Eric Damery [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 5:23 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Correction FW: JAWSBeta JAWS 9.0.356 Private Beta
isavailable!


Well, I guess I blew this one.

It has been a long week. This message was sent in error to the JAWS users
list instead of the Freedom Scientific Private Beta List. I apologize.
Please disregard and do not ask about the where the file is now or how to
get this update, we have removed them from these locations.

We will be getting a new public beta update out once we complete work and
testing on the next round of fixes over the next 10 days.

Regards,
Eric Damery





From: Eric Damery
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 5:01 PM
To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com'
Cc: JAWSIntlBeta
Subject: JAWSBeta JAWS 9.0.356 Private Beta is available!



Hello Private Beta Testers,

JAWS Private Beta Build 9.0.356 is ready for testing. This one includes
quite a bit of change since the 353 build because we have been fixing items
that were held out of the public beta builds as we attempted to stabilize 
it
as best we could. The next update we do for the public will be in about 10
days or so I hope. Your attention to this list of fixes is greatly
appreciated.

The Known issues is empty today. Rosemary and Stephen are both off sipping
Margaritas somewhere so we are not as professional in the write up as we'd
like to be.

Special note:  The Red Sox are going for game two tonight at 8:30 ET and 
the
Yankees will be going for their second loss on Saturday!

  Regards,

Eric



  JAWS Private Beta Build 9.0.356 is ready for testing.


JAWS 9.0 Update


An update is provided for your convenience as well as to continue with some
level of testing of the update process during the beta cycle. Not all 
builds
provided during the beta cycle will have the update option. As the product
progresses, some builds will be new BASE BUILDS upon which subsequent
updates can be installed. The Automatic Update will update to JAWS 9.0.356
from the following prior builds:

* 9.0.353 Base Build or Update.

* 9.0.348 Base Build.

Attempts to update to 9.0.356 from any build other than what is listed will
fail by design. If in doubt or you have trouble, simply use the full 
install
instead. Updates are not yet available for Windows Vista, and are not
available for Windows 2000; you need to download and install the full
version.

* Update Patch:


1. Please enter 90909 into the special code dialog in the JAWS about box
dialog. Go to the Help Menu, About. TAB to the special access code button
and press ENTER. Type or paste 90909 into the edit field.
2. Select check for updates on the JAWS UI help menu. You will find today's
9.0.356 in the list box.
3. TAB to your choice and proceed with installation.


* Update Tip: How do you check to see if a listed update will update my
installed version of JAWS?


If you navigate the list of updates and highlight one of the listed updates
you can TAB to the detail button and press spacebar to get a list of the
versions of JAWS which can be updated by that particular update.


* If the Update fails:


Either Repair or install the full build, if available: Check out the FAQ:
How do I perform Installation Maintenance procedures like Repair and 
Modify?
http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_support/BulletinView.cfm?QC=1057


NOTES


* JAWS 9.0 beta will expire December 1, 2007.
* For those who are testing the Outlook Calendar work: to test the 
calendar,
you need to disable the Task List option in View, To Do, menu.
ALT+V to drop the View menu, then select the To Do Bar sub menu, then
uncheck the Task List option.
* MAGic and JAWS private beta testers: We are working on testing a
combination here in-house, and on getting you a new MAGic 11 Public beta
candidate, that will function with the JAWS public beta.  While you are 
free
to install both JAWS 9.0 beta and MAGic 11 private beta together, we still
don't recommend attempting to run them together
* JAWS 9.0 will be a paid upgrade, requiring authorization for JAWS 9.0. 
The
flag is not set yet; 8.0 authorization will enable you to run JAWS 9.0 
beta.
* Please review the Known

Re: [JAWS-Users] Using Jaws with Bluetooth keyboards

2007-10-04 Thread David A Ferrin
Wireless keyboards work fine with jaws except and this goes for any keyboard 
at all if you install any software that might come with the thing. Yes we 
loose some of the special functionality but who cares.
David Ferrin
www.jaws-users.com
- Original Message - 
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 3:36 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using Jaws with Bluetooth keyboards


Hi listers I want to buy a Bluetooth keyboard are there any keyboards that
are not compatible with jaws?



Thanks in advance


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using Jaws with Bluetooth keyboards

2007-10-04 Thread David A Ferrin
The way screen readers work is they intercept key presses and process them 
threw their internal logic. Sorry but that's life and like I said it isn't 
much of an issue for me at least.
David Ferrin
www.jaws-users.com
- Original Message - 
From: Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using Jaws with Bluetooth keyboards


i would care, because putting out all that money just to have regular
function of a keyboard instead of all of its function is ridiculous.
If that keyboard has special functions that would make work easier.
Then no mater what the screen reader is, i would want those functions.
many keyboards will give you those function, but with jaws for some
its when the keyboard loads up to when those functions are lost.
For example the Microsoft wireless any model. If it loads first then
you get its function, but if jaws or any other keyboard mapping
program loads first. Then those functions are non working. Rebooting
can correct this, but who wants to reboot just to get something
working that should be doing it out of box like intended.


At 09:01 AM 10/4/2007, you wrote:
Wireless keyboards work fine with jaws except and this goes for any 
keyboard
at all if you install any software that might come with the thing. Yes we
loose some of the special functionality but who cares.
David Ferrin
www.jaws-users.com
- Original Message -
From: Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 3:36 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using Jaws with Bluetooth keyboards


Hi listers I want to buy a Bluetooth keyboard are there any keyboards that
are not compatible with jaws?



Thanks in advance


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using Jaws with Bluetooth keyboards

2007-10-04 Thread David A Ferrin
As you wish, I see no point in continuing this debate further.
David Ferrin
www.jaws-users.com
- Original Message - 
From: Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using Jaws with Bluetooth keyboards


no they don't, they intercept video output. key presses should only
come into play if scripted for, and only those keys. Therefor any
other keys that have functions that are not scripted or part of the
current program. Should give there true function.
And that is how life works. Just because a company or something says
it has to work their way is a controlling aspect.

At 10:10 AM 10/4/2007, you wrote:
The way screen readers work is they intercept key presses and process them
threw their internal logic. Sorry but that's life and like I said it isn't
much of an issue for me at least.
David Ferrin
www.jaws-users.com
- Original Message -
From: Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using Jaws with Bluetooth keyboards


i would care, because putting out all that money just to have regular
function of a keyboard instead of all of its function is ridiculous.
If that keyboard has special functions that would make work easier.
Then no mater what the screen reader is, i would want those functions.
many keyboards will give you those function, but with jaws for some
its when the keyboard loads up to when those functions are lost.
For example the Microsoft wireless any model. If it loads first then
you get its function, but if jaws or any other keyboard mapping
program loads first. Then those functions are non working. Rebooting
can correct this, but who wants to reboot just to get something
working that should be doing it out of box like intended.


At 09:01 AM 10/4/2007, you wrote:
 Wireless keyboards work fine with jaws except and this goes for any
 keyboard
 at all if you install any software that might come with the thing. Yes we
 loose some of the special functionality but who cares.
 David Ferrin
 www.jaws-users.com
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 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 3:36 AM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using Jaws with Bluetooth keyboards
 
 
 Hi listers I want to buy a Bluetooth keyboard are there any keyboards 
 that
 are not compatible with jaws?
 
 
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using Jaws with Bluetooth keyboards

2007-10-04 Thread David A Ferrin
Interesting in that gateway keyboards at leas those that I have disagree, 
most enlightening thank you.
David Ferrin
www.jaws-users.com
- Original Message - 
From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using Jaws with Bluetooth keyboards


and i have all the functionality of the keyboard.  I have to agree with the
others here.  at $160 for this keyboard it's pretty much a waste if you
don't use the software included for all the functionality and fortunately
jaws doesn't mind microsofts software being installed.

Rick


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Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using Jaws with Bluetooth keyboards


Microsoft wireless keyboards including blue tooth work perfect with their
software installed.  Using blue tooth elete here with the added software
installed and Jaws has no issues with it at all.

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From: David A Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using Jaws with Bluetooth keyboards


Wireless keyboards work fine with jaws except and this goes for any keyboard
at all if you install any software that might come with the thing. Yes we
loose some of the special functionality but who cares.
David Ferrin
www.jaws-users.com
- Original Message - 
From: Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 3:36 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using Jaws with Bluetooth keyboards


Hi listers I want to buy a Bluetooth keyboard are there any keyboards that
are not compatible with jaws?



Thanks in advance


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Updating my Spybot search and destroy program

2007-10-04 Thread David A Ferrin
Yes you will most likely need them and yes there is self installing version
up there as well as a standard offering.

David Ferrin
www.jaws-users.com

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lisa
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 2:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Updating my Spybot search and destroy program


Hello everyone,
I'm now using spybot version 1.3, and I'm going to update it to 1.5.  I
noticed on the jaws-users web site that there are scripts for this program.
Do I need the scripts if I'm using jaws 8?  Also, are the scripts self
installing?  When I install the newer version of Spybot will it over ride my
old version?  Sorry for all of the questions, but I want to make sure I get
this program installed correctly.  Any help with this is very much
appreciated!
Take care,
Lisa
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Re: [JAWS-Users] identity

2007-10-03 Thread David A Ferrin
It's not clear if you configured an email account in the new identity or 
not.
David Ferrin
www.jaws-users.com
- Original Message - 
From: Kenneth Suratt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:02 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] identity


I set up an identity in out look express but when i tried to send a message
from here it could no go. could someone help me with this one.


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