Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

2018-03-28 Thread Mike B.
Hi Fernando,

Alls I can say is what I stated earlier.   I make my changes in the Start 
Menu properties, Classic Shell, does what it does depending on what link you 
click on for your choice of skins.  I'm not well versed with Windows 10, & 
don't plan on being so for as long as I can help it!  LOL  I am most 
definitely not a computer literate lingo person, & most people on this list 
as well as many others know it, but I do learn at my own pace.  I'm pretty 
much self taught, but I've had the tutoring of very fine people from this 
list that kept my sanity in tact while I dealt with the learning curve of 
computers.  I'm only saying this so you understand why I stated that playing 
around with the options was the only way to see how each of the skins will 
read for each individual.  that computer lingo crap that is put into help 
files is like a foreign language to so many people it's not even funny!  I 
would be willing to wager, that at a minimum, 75% of the people that use 
computers around the world don't have a clue as to what is being said when 
they read instructions on the internet written by computer experts, or the 
computer lingo crap that's written in help files.

I really enjoy reading your posts' because although they might be above my 
pay grade I can figure them out by reading them a few times!  You don't go 
overboard on the computer lingo crap, but show that you know what you're 
talking about, which is truly appreciated by not only me, but other list 
members that are in the same boat of computer skill level.  When I say, 
Thank you, at the end of my posts', this is not something I'm saying in 
general, but something that I'm truly appreciative of!  Thanks much for all 
your help.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
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end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

- Original Message - 
From: Fernando Gregoire
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting


Hi Mike,

The Readme provides important links and procedures to solve installation 
issues that can affect components like Classic Explorer or Classic IE, which 
depend on settings for ActiveX controls.
To know each setting in depth, it is best to see help found in the CHM file. 
For Classic Start Menu, you'll realize that many of the individual and 
specific settings you can change for a given style are simulations of 
settings that were available for these styles in Taskbar and Start Menu 
Properties dialog of the corresponding Windows version. This is particularly 
useful because this dialog (or the Settings categories in Windows 10) only 
offer settings for the provided styles in your current Windows version, and 
Windows 7 and newer does not natively offer a choice of classic Start menu 
style; moreover, from a user's point of view, Windows 8 and 8.1 have no 
Start menu at all.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 10:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

Hi Fernando,

Well, I've never noticed the settings you're asking about, so probably the 
next best thing to do is take a look at the ReadMe.RTF file located here.

C:\Program Files\Classic Shell


Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
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- Original Message -
From: Fernando Gregoire
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting


Hi Mike,

Your are right on this. However, the checkboxes about which I want to know 
are those available in tree views.
For example, when in Classic Start Menu settings you choose Windows 7 style 
advanced settings, you can choose wetter initial focus is in the search box, 
or, in Windows XP style, wetter recent programs have keyboard shortcuts with 
numbers, initial letters or none, or additional search providers if you use 
the Windows 2000 and earlier classic style which had a Search sub-menu. In 
all styles you can specify which options to display (Documents, Control 
Panel etc.) and how, and here it would be useful to know instantly the 
states of checkboxes in a way similar to Folder Options tree view which 
reports On or Off after the option name.

Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

Hi Fernando,

The only checkboxes, so to speak, that are read by Jaws are the Basic 
Settings & the All Settings radio buttons.  You will get these 2 radio 
buttons a

Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

2018-03-28 Thread Fernando Gregoire
Hi Mike,

The Readme provides important links and procedures to solve installation issues 
that can affect components like Classic Explorer or Classic IE, which depend on 
settings for ActiveX controls.
To know each setting in depth, it is best to see help found in the CHM file. 
For Classic Start Menu, you'll realize that many of the individual and specific 
settings you can change for a given style are simulations of settings that were 
available for these styles in Taskbar and Start Menu Properties dialog of the 
corresponding Windows version. This is particularly useful because this dialog 
(or the Settings categories in Windows 10) only offer settings for the provided 
styles in your current Windows version, and Windows 7 and newer does not 
natively offer a choice of classic Start menu style; moreover, from a user's 
point of view, Windows 8 and 8.1 have no Start menu at all.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 10:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

Hi Fernando,

Well, I've never noticed the settings you're asking about, so probably the next 
best thing to do is take a look at the ReadMe.RTF file located here.

C:\Program Files\Classic Shell


Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Fernando Gregoire
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting


Hi Mike,

Your are right on this. However, the checkboxes about which I want to know are 
those available in tree views.
For example, when in Classic Start Menu settings you choose Windows 7 style 
advanced settings, you can choose wetter initial focus is in the search box, 
or, in Windows XP style, wetter recent programs have keyboard shortcuts with 
numbers, initial letters or none, or additional search providers if you use the 
Windows 2000 and earlier classic style which had a Search sub-menu. In all 
styles you can specify which options to display (Documents, Control Panel etc.) 
and how, and here it would be useful to know instantly the states of checkboxes 
in a way similar to Folder Options tree view which reports On or Off after the 
option name.

Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

Hi Fernando,

The only checkboxes, so to speak, that are read by Jaws are the Basic Settings 
& the All Settings radio buttons.  You will get these 2 radio buttons after you 
click on a setting link, i.e; Open Start menu , press enter on either, Windows 
Classic link, Windows XP link, Windows Vista / Windows 7 link.  Now after you 
press enter, tab to the Basic Settings / All Settings radio buttons, choose 
which one you want, tab to, Okay, & press enter.  Now your settings are 
changed, but for me anyways, I don't know how the chosen settings will look / 
be read by Jaws until afterward.  This is why I say it takes some playing 
around with the Classic, XP, or Vista / Win 7settings, & both the Basic / All 
settings to get a feel for how Jaws will read for you.  Personally, I don't 
care about the Explorer & IE settings, & only configure the Start Menu settings.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Fernando Gregoire
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting


Hi Mike,

Are you able to know when a setting in a given Classic Shell tree view is 
checked or unchecked? I didn't managed to get JAWS indicate this.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

Hi Holger,

After installing Classic Shell you have to go into the various options & 
configure them.  for example, you need to configure the Start Menu to show the 
way you want it.

To do this:
1. Open the Start Menu, & open the All Programs sub-menu.
2. Find the Classic Shell program & open the folder.
3. In here you will have, Classic Explorer Settings, Classic IE9 settings, & 
Classic Start Menu settings.  Press enter on the 1 of choice to get to your 
options.
For example in the Classic Start Menu settings.  You have Windows Classic, 
Windows XP, & Windows Vista / Windows 7 links.
Click on

Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

2018-03-28 Thread Mike B.
Hi Fernando & Holger,

One quick note;  When you want the search field / bar, press the Windows key 
/ Start key, now tab 1 time to put you in the search field.  Also, the other 
checboxes / settings being asked about, I've always made these settings in 
the operating system Start Menu properties.  I've never noticed these 
settings after clicking the, Windows Classic link, my setting of choice. 
After clicking the link this is the message I get, pretty much saying the 
skin is changed, & not giving any individual settings options.

Settings for Classic Start Menu 3.6.8 dialog
Start Menu Style Page
Select a default style for the start menu. The style will determine the 
initial order for the menu items and the skin settings.
Windows Classic Link

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Mike B.
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting


Hi Fernando,

Well, I've never noticed the settings you're asking about, so probably the
next best thing to do is take a look at the ReadMe.RTF file located here.

C:\Program Files\Classic Shell


Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Fernando Gregoire
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting


Hi Mike,

Your are right on this. However, the checkboxes about which I want to know
are those available in tree views.
For example, when in Classic Start Menu settings you choose Windows 7 style
advanced settings, you can choose wetter initial focus is in the search box,
or, in Windows XP style, wetter recent programs have keyboard shortcuts with
numbers, initial letters or none, or additional search providers if you use
the Windows 2000 and earlier classic style which had a Search sub-menu. In
all styles you can specify which options to display (Documents, Control
Panel etc.) and how, and here it would be useful to know instantly the
states of checkboxes in a way similar to Folder Options tree view which
reports On or Off after the option name.

Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

Hi Fernando,

The only checkboxes, so to speak, that are read by Jaws are the Basic
Settings & the All Settings radio buttons.  You will get these 2 radio
buttons after you click on a setting link, i.e; Open Start menu , press
enter on either, Windows Classic link, Windows XP link, Windows Vista /
Windows 7 link.  Now after you press enter, tab to the Basic Settings / All
Settings radio buttons, choose which one you want, tab to, Okay, & press
enter.  Now your settings are changed, but for me anyways, I don't know how
the chosen settings will look / be read by Jaws until afterward.  This is
why I say it takes some playing around with the Classic, XP, or Vista / Win
7settings, & both the Basic / All settings to get a feel for how Jaws will
read for you.  Personally, I don't care about the Explorer & IE settings, &
only configure the Start Menu settings.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Fernando Gregoire
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting


Hi Mike,

Are you able to know when a setting in a given Classic Shell tree view is
checked or unchecked? I didn't managed to get JAWS indicate this.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

Hi Holger,

After installing Classic Shell you have to go into the various options &
configure them.  for example, you need to configure the Start Menu to show
the way you want it.

To do this:
1. Open the Start Menu, & open the All Programs sub-menu.
2. Find the Classic Shell program & open the folder.
3. In here you will have, Classic Explorer Settings, Classic IE9 settings, &
Classic Start Menu settings.  Press enter on the 1 of choice to get to your
options.
For example in the Classic Start Menu settings.  You have Windows Classic,
Windows XP, & Windows Vista / Windows 7 links.
Click on 1 of them & choose from All settings or Basic s

Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

2018-03-28 Thread Mike B.
Hi Fernando,

Well, I've never noticed the settings you're asking about, so probably the 
next best thing to do is take a look at the ReadMe.RTF file located here.

C:\Program Files\Classic Shell


Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Fernando Gregoire
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting


Hi Mike,

Your are right on this. However, the checkboxes about which I want to know 
are those available in tree views.
For example, when in Classic Start Menu settings you choose Windows 7 style 
advanced settings, you can choose wetter initial focus is in the search box, 
or, in Windows XP style, wetter recent programs have keyboard shortcuts with 
numbers, initial letters or none, or additional search providers if you use 
the Windows 2000 and earlier classic style which had a Search sub-menu. In 
all styles you can specify which options to display (Documents, Control 
Panel etc.) and how, and here it would be useful to know instantly the 
states of checkboxes in a way similar to Folder Options tree view which 
reports On or Off after the option name.

Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

Hi Fernando,

The only checkboxes, so to speak, that are read by Jaws are the Basic 
Settings & the All Settings radio buttons.  You will get these 2 radio 
buttons after you click on a setting link, i.e; Open Start menu , press 
enter on either, Windows Classic link, Windows XP link, Windows Vista / 
Windows 7 link.  Now after you press enter, tab to the Basic Settings / All 
Settings radio buttons, choose which one you want, tab to, Okay, & press 
enter.  Now your settings are changed, but for me anyways, I don't know how 
the chosen settings will look / be read by Jaws until afterward.  This is 
why I say it takes some playing around with the Classic, XP, or Vista / Win 
7settings, & both the Basic / All settings to get a feel for how Jaws will 
read for you.  Personally, I don't care about the Explorer & IE settings, & 
only configure the Start Menu settings.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Fernando Gregoire
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting


Hi Mike,

Are you able to know when a setting in a given Classic Shell tree view is 
checked or unchecked? I didn't managed to get JAWS indicate this.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

Hi Holger,

After installing Classic Shell you have to go into the various options & 
configure them.  for example, you need to configure the Start Menu to show 
the way you want it.

To do this:
1. Open the Start Menu, & open the All Programs sub-menu.
2. Find the Classic Shell program & open the folder.
3. In here you will have, Classic Explorer Settings, Classic IE9 settings, & 
Classic Start Menu settings.  Press enter on the 1 of choice to get to your 
options.
For example in the Classic Start Menu settings.  You have Windows Classic, 
Windows XP, & Windows Vista / Windows 7 links.
Click on 1 of them & choose from All settings or Basic settings.

It takes a little tinkering around, but eventually you'll get them the way 
you want them.  I believe I use the Windows Classic & All settings for the 
Start menu.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.

- Original Message -
From: Holger Fiallo
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 2:21 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting


Does anyone know how to setup Classic Shell to look like W7? Using W10 and 
jaws 2018. Had it set but when my PC had problems someone reinstalled W10 
but did not config Classic Shell.

Holger Fiallo

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

2018-03-28 Thread Holger Fiallo
That is I am looking. Do not like menues but would like to have letters. 
Also some how program is on top and the default apps that comes with W10 are 
below. Can I high programs in the start menue? Can they go to apps instead?


-Original Message- 
From: Fernando Gregoire

Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 1:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

Hi Mike,

Your are right on this. However, the checkboxes about which I want to know 
are those available in tree views.
For example, when in Classic Start Menu settings you choose Windows 7 style 
advanced settings, you can choose wetter initial focus is in the search box, 
or, in Windows XP style, wetter recent programs have keyboard shortcuts with 
numbers, initial letters or none, or additional search providers if you use 
the Windows 2000 and earlier classic style which had a Search sub-menu. In 
all styles you can specify which options to display (Documents, Control 
Panel etc.) and how, and here it would be useful to know instantly the 
states of checkboxes in a way similar to Folder Options tree view which 
reports On or Off after the option name.


Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Mike B.

Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

Hi Fernando,

The only checkboxes, so to speak, that are read by Jaws are the Basic 
Settings & the All Settings radio buttons.  You will get these 2 radio 
buttons after you click on a setting link, i.e; Open Start menu , press 
enter on either, Windows Classic link, Windows XP link, Windows Vista / 
Windows 7 link.  Now after you press enter, tab to the Basic Settings / All 
Settings radio buttons, choose which one you want, tab to, Okay, & press 
enter.  Now your settings are changed, but for me anyways, I don't know how 
the chosen settings will look / be read by Jaws until afterward.  This is 
why I say it takes some playing around with the Classic, XP, or Vista / Win 
7settings, & both the Basic / All settings to get a feel for how Jaws will 
read for you.  Personally, I don't care about the Explorer & IE settings, & 
only configure the Start Menu settings.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

- Original Message -
From: Fernando Gregoire
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting


Hi Mike,

Are you able to know when a setting in a given Classic Shell tree view is 
checked or unchecked? I didn't managed to get JAWS indicate this.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Mike B.

Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

Hi Holger,

After installing Classic Shell you have to go into the various options & 
configure them.  for example, you need to configure the Start Menu to show 
the way you want it.


To do this:
1. Open the Start Menu, & open the All Programs sub-menu.
2. Find the Classic Shell program & open the folder.
3. In here you will have, Classic Explorer Settings, Classic IE9 settings, & 
Classic Start Menu settings.  Press enter on the 1 of choice to get to your 
options.
For example in the Classic Start Menu settings.  You have Windows Classic, 
Windows XP, & Windows Vista / Windows 7 links.

Click on 1 of them & choose from All settings or Basic settings.

It takes a little tinkering around, but eventually you'll get them the way 
you want them.  I believe I use the Windows Classic & All settings for the 
Start menu.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.

- Original Message -
From: Holger Fiallo
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 2:21 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting


Does anyone know how to setup Classic Shell to look like W7? Using W10 and 
jaws 2018. Had it set but when my PC had problems someone reinstalled W10 
but did not config Classic Shell.


Holger Fiallo

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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

2018-03-28 Thread Fernando Gregoire
Hi Mike,

Your are right on this. However, the checkboxes about which I want to know are 
those available in tree views.
For example, when in Classic Start Menu settings you choose Windows 7 style 
advanced settings, you can choose wetter initial focus is in the search box, 
or, in Windows XP style, wetter recent programs have keyboard shortcuts with 
numbers, initial letters or none, or additional search providers if you use the 
Windows 2000 and earlier classic style which had a Search sub-menu. In all 
styles you can specify which options to display (Documents, Control Panel etc.) 
and how, and here it would be useful to know instantly the states of checkboxes 
in a way similar to Folder Options tree view which reports On or Off after the 
option name.

Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

Hi Fernando,

The only checkboxes, so to speak, that are read by Jaws are the Basic Settings 
& the All Settings radio buttons.  You will get these 2 radio buttons after you 
click on a setting link, i.e; Open Start menu , press enter on either, Windows 
Classic link, Windows XP link, Windows Vista / Windows 7 link.  Now after you 
press enter, tab to the Basic Settings / All Settings radio buttons, choose 
which one you want, tab to, Okay, & press enter.  Now your settings are 
changed, but for me anyways, I don't know how the chosen settings will look / 
be read by Jaws until afterward.  This is why I say it takes some playing 
around with the Classic, XP, or Vista / Win 7settings, & both the Basic / All 
settings to get a feel for how Jaws will read for you.  Personally, I don't 
care about the Explorer & IE settings, & only configure the Start Menu settings.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Fernando Gregoire
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting


Hi Mike,

Are you able to know when a setting in a given Classic Shell tree view is 
checked or unchecked? I didn't managed to get JAWS indicate this.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

Hi Holger,

After installing Classic Shell you have to go into the various options & 
configure them.  for example, you need to configure the Start Menu to show the 
way you want it.

To do this:
1. Open the Start Menu, & open the All Programs sub-menu.
2. Find the Classic Shell program & open the folder.
3. In here you will have, Classic Explorer Settings, Classic IE9 settings, & 
Classic Start Menu settings.  Press enter on the 1 of choice to get to your 
options.
For example in the Classic Start Menu settings.  You have Windows Classic, 
Windows XP, & Windows Vista / Windows 7 links.
Click on 1 of them & choose from All settings or Basic settings.

It takes a little tinkering around, but eventually you'll get them the way you 
want them.  I believe I use the Windows Classic & All settings for the Start 
menu.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.

- Original Message -
From: Holger Fiallo
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 2:21 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting


Does anyone know how to setup Classic Shell to look like W7? Using W10 and jaws 
2018. Had it set but when my PC had problems someone reinstalled W10 but did 
not config Classic Shell.

Holger Fiallo

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

2018-03-27 Thread Mike B.
Hi Fernando,

The only checkboxes, so to speak, that are read by Jaws are the Basic 
Settings & the All Settings radio buttons.  You will get these 2 radio 
buttons after you click on a setting link, i.e; Open Start menu , press 
enter on either, Windows Classic link, Windows XP link, Windows Vista / 
Windows 7 link.  Now after you press enter, tab to the Basic Settings / All 
Settings radio buttons, choose which one you want, tab to, Okay, & press 
enter.  Now your settings are changed, but for me anyways, I don't know how 
the chosen settings will look / be read by Jaws until afterward.  This is 
why I say it takes some playing around with the Classic, XP, or Vista / Win 
7settings, & both the Basic / All settings to get a feel for how Jaws will 
read for you.  Personally, I don't care about the Explorer & IE settings, & 
only configure the Start Menu settings.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Fernando Gregoire
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting


Hi Mike,

Are you able to know when a setting in a given Classic Shell tree view is 
checked or unchecked? I didn't managed to get JAWS indicate this.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

Hi Holger,

After installing Classic Shell you have to go into the various options & 
configure them.  for example, you need to configure the Start Menu to show 
the way you want it.

To do this:
1. Open the Start Menu, & open the All Programs sub-menu.
2. Find the Classic Shell program & open the folder.
3. In here you will have, Classic Explorer Settings, Classic IE9 settings, & 
Classic Start Menu settings.  Press enter on the 1 of choice to get to your 
options.
For example in the Classic Start Menu settings.  You have Windows Classic, 
Windows XP, & Windows Vista / Windows 7 links.
Click on 1 of them & choose from All settings or Basic settings.

It takes a little tinkering around, but eventually you'll get them the way 
you want them.  I believe I use the Windows Classic & All settings for the 
Start menu.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.

- Original Message -
From: Holger Fiallo
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 2:21 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting


Does anyone know how to setup Classic Shell to look like W7? Using W10 and
jaws 2018. Had it set but when my PC had problems someone reinstalled W10
but did not config Classic Shell.

Holger Fiallo

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

2018-03-27 Thread Fernando Gregoire
Hi Mike,

Are you able to know when a setting in a given Classic Shell tree view is 
checked or unchecked? I didn't managed to get JAWS indicate this.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

Hi Holger,

After installing Classic Shell you have to go into the various options & 
configure them.  for example, you need to configure the Start Menu to show the 
way you want it.

To do this:
1. Open the Start Menu, & open the All Programs sub-menu.
2. Find the Classic Shell program & open the folder.
3. In here you will have, Classic Explorer Settings, Classic IE9 settings, & 
Classic Start Menu settings.  Press enter on the 1 of choice to get to your 
options.
For example in the Classic Start Menu settings.  You have Windows Classic, 
Windows XP, & Windows Vista / Windows 7 links.
Click on 1 of them & choose from All settings or Basic settings.

It takes a little tinkering around, but eventually you'll get them the way you 
want them.  I believe I use the Windows Classic & All settings for the Start 
menu.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.

- Original Message -
From: Holger Fiallo
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 2:21 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting


Does anyone know how to setup Classic Shell to look like W7? Using W10 and 
jaws 2018. Had it set but when my PC had problems someone reinstalled W10 
but did not config Classic Shell.

Holger Fiallo

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

2018-03-27 Thread Holger Fiallo

Thanks so much.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 5:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

Hi Holger,

After installing Classic Shell you have to go into the various options &
configure them.  for
example, you need to configure the Start Menu to show the way you want it.

To do this:
1. Open the Start Menu, & open the All Programs sub-menu.
2. Find the Classic Shell program & open the folder.
3. In here you will have, Classic Explorer Settings, Classic IE9 settings, &
Classic Start Menu settings.  Press enter on the 1 of choice to get to your
options.
For example in the Classic Start Menu settings.  You have Windows Classic,
Windows XP, & Windows Vista / Windows 7 links.
Click on 1 of them & choose from All settings or Basic settings.

It takes a little tinkering around, but eventually you'll get them the way
you want them.  I believe I use the Windows Classic & All settings for the
Start menu.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.

- Original Message - 
From: Holger Fiallo

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 2:21 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting


Does anyone know how to setup Classic Shell to look like W7? Using W10 and
jaws 2018. Had it set but when my PC had problems someone reinstalled W10
but did not config Classic Shell.

Holger Fiallo

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

2018-03-27 Thread Mike B.
Hi Holger,

After installing Classic Shell you have to go into the various options & 
configure them.  for
example, you need to configure the Start Menu to show the way you want it.

To do this:
1. Open the Start Menu, & open the All Programs sub-menu.
2. Find the Classic Shell program & open the folder.
3. In here you will have, Classic Explorer Settings, Classic IE9 settings, &
Classic Start Menu settings.  Press enter on the 1 of choice to get to your
options.
For example in the Classic Start Menu settings.  You have Windows Classic,
Windows XP, & Windows Vista / Windows 7 links.
Click on 1 of them & choose from All settings or Basic settings.

It takes a little tinkering around, but eventually you'll get them the way
you want them.  I believe I use the Windows Classic & All settings for the
Start menu.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.

- Original Message - 
From: Holger Fiallo
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 2:21 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting


Does anyone know how to setup Classic Shell to look like W7? Using W10 and 
jaws 2018. Had it set but when my PC had problems someone reinstalled W10 
but did not config Classic Shell.

Holger Fiallo

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[JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

2018-03-27 Thread Holger Fiallo
Does anyone know how to setup Classic Shell to look like W7? Using W10 and jaws 
2018. Had it set but when my PC had problems someone reinstalled W10 but did 
not config Classic Shell. 

Holger Fiallo

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