Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13
As a criticism to the way of the FS podcasts, İ can add that they do their show ups on highly sterilized applications or documents somehow fitting the standards of the industry, such as Eric did in introducing the new table layer feature on research page. But the problem is here that research pages already conform to the accessibility standards of table creation. İn my opinion, we could observe as blind users the power of a screen reader on non-standard applications, documents or websites blatantly. So the examples should be chosen accordingly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13
Hi List I hope jaws 13 wil be stable again. 12 was the most unstable version since jaws 5 and no value for money. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 12:12 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 Okay, listers, this is the one you've all been waiting for. In FSCast 58, Jonathan Mosen discusses the new features of JAWS 13 with Eric Damery and Dan Clark. The public beta is scheduled for release during the second week of September, so it should be out shortly. Very interesting. http://www.freedomscientific.com/FSCast/episodes/fscast058-september2011.asp Gerald For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13
Hi Gerald The link you provided wants one to subscribe to the rss feed. Usually there was a link where one could download the .mp3 file but I can't find it on the site. Is this not possible anymore? Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 12:12 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 Okay, listers, this is the one you've all been waiting for. In FSCast 58, Jonathan Mosen discusses the new features of JAWS 13 with Eric Damery and Dan Clark. The public beta is scheduled for release during the second week of September, so it should be out shortly. Very interesting. http://www.freedomscientific.com/FSCast/episodes/fscast058-september2011.asp Gerald For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13
Hi Fanus, Give this a try: http://podcast.freedomscientific.com/FSCast/episodes/fscast058-september2011.mp3 HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 3:43 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 Hi Gerald The link you provided wants one to subscribe to the rss feed. Usually there was a link where one could download the .mp3 file but I can't find it on the site. Is this not possible anymore? Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 12:12 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 Okay, listers, this is the one you've all been waiting for. In FSCast 58, Jonathan Mosen discusses the new features of JAWS 13 with Eric Damery and Dan Clark. The public beta is scheduled for release during the second week of September, so it should be out shortly. Very interesting. http://www.freedomscientific.com/FSCast/episodes/fscast058-september2011.asp Gerald For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13
Not my experience. JAWS12 was and is more stable than JAWS11, for sure. - Original Message - From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:36 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 Hi List I hope jaws 13 wil be stable again. 12 was the most unstable version since jaws 5 and no value for money. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 12:12 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 Okay, listers, this is the one you've all been waiting for. In FSCast 58, Jonathan Mosen discusses the new features of JAWS 13 with Eric Damery and Dan Clark. The public beta is scheduled for release during the second week of September, so it should be out shortly. Very interesting. http://www.freedomscientific.com/FSCast/episodes/fscast058-september2011.asp Gerald For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13
Agree. JAWS 11 was challenging but 12 has been good almost from day. Glen On 13-Sep-2011 6:16 pm, Flor Lynch wrote: Not my experience. JAWS12 was and is more stable than JAWS11, for sure. - Original Message - From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:36 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 Hi List I hope jaws 13 wil be stable again. 12 was the most unstable version since jaws 5 and no value for money. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 12:12 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 Okay, listers, this is the one you've all been waiting for. In FSCast 58, Jonathan Mosen discusses the new features of JAWS 13 with Eric Damery and Dan Clark. The public beta is scheduled for release during the second week of September, so it should be out shortly. Very interesting. http://www.freedomscientific.com/FSCast/episodes/fscast058-september2011.asp Gerald For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13
OCR feature is indeed an old yet a failed idea trying to be implemented by Baum of Germany before in its screen reading product called Cobra. Should Baum sue Freedom then? :) Let the joke aside, this is really a great move and as Mr. Mosen puts it well, a game changer in screen reading technology. yet İ wanna pose a big but about the choice of Freedom's Omnipage as its OCR engine that it is not the best in the market, as FS guys also may know very well that most of the blinds over the world having non-FreedomScientific options, use ABBYY Fine reader which is the pinnacle of the OCR products in the market as of today. So, a perfect idea with a wrong choice of engin... P.S: independent reviews juxtaposing the two engins mentioned above can easily be found with a simple Google search. Regards For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Yes, but if it could be made to work, it might be good. Cheers Alex -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of soner Sent: 13 September 2011 11:03 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 OCR feature is indeed an old yet a failed idea trying to be implemented by Baum of Germany before in its screen reading product called Cobra. Should Baum sue Freedom then? :) Let the joke aside, this is really a great move and as Mr. Mosen puts it well, a game changer in screen reading technology. yet İ wanna pose a big but about the choice of Freedom's Omnipage as its OCR engine that it is not the best in the market, as FS guys also may know very well that most of the blinds over the world having non-FreedomScientific options, use ABBYY Fine reader which is the pinnacle of the OCR products in the market as of today. So, a perfect idea with a wrong choice of engin... P.S: independent reviews juxtaposing the two engins mentioned above can easily be found with a simple Google search. Regards For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13
The latest version of Cobra still has OCR in it. (Some recent ACB Radio main menu podcasts refer.) One hopes it will do well on image pdf's, so that people aren't disappointed and that further development can take place. Now the other big screen-readers will have to follow suit. - Original Message - From: soner soner.b...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 OCR feature is indeed an old yet a failed idea trying to be implemented by Baum of Germany before in its screen reading product called Cobra. Should Baum sue Freedom then? :) Let the joke aside, this is really a great move and as Mr. Mosen puts it well, a game changer in screen reading technology. yet İ wanna pose a big but about the choice of Freedom's Omnipage as its OCR engine that it is not the best in the market, as FS guys also may know very well that most of the blinds over the world having non-FreedomScientific options, use ABBYY Fine reader which is the pinnacle of the OCR products in the market as of today. So, a perfect idea with a wrong choice of engin... P.S: independent reviews juxtaposing the two engins mentioned above can easily be found with a simple Google search. Regards For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Well, (as for the Omnipage SDK in use with kurzweil 1000, anyway) Omnipage has significantly improved over how it used to do. - Original Message - From: soner soner.b...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 OCR feature is indeed an old yet a failed idea trying to be implemented by Baum of Germany before in its screen reading product called Cobra. Should Baum sue Freedom then? :) Let the joke aside, this is really a great move and as Mr. Mosen puts it well, a game changer in screen reading technology. yet İ wanna pose a big but about the choice of Freedom's Omnipage as its OCR engine that it is not the best in the market, as FS guys also may know very well that most of the blinds over the world having non-FreedomScientific options, use ABBYY Fine reader which is the pinnacle of the OCR products in the market as of today. So, a perfect idea with a wrong choice of engin... P.S: independent reviews juxtaposing the two engins mentioned above can easily be found with a simple Google search. Regards For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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I have always been content with jaws 12 myself. My favorite feature of course is still tandem. They will have trouble coming up with something to top that in my book. David Ferrin Most people don't know what they're doing and a lot of them are really good at it. - Original Message - From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:16 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 Not my experience. JAWS12 was and is more stable than JAWS11, for sure. - Original Message - From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:36 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 Hi List I hope jaws 13 wil be stable again. 12 was the most unstable version since jaws 5 and no value for money. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 12:12 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 Okay, listers, this is the one you've all been waiting for. In FSCast 58, Jonathan Mosen discusses the new features of JAWS 13 with Eric Damery and Dan Clark. The public beta is scheduled for release during the second week of September, so it should be out shortly. Very interesting. http://www.freedomscientific.com/FSCast/episodes/fscast058-september2011.asp Gerald For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13
I mean, of course, that I hope JAWS' new screen OCR will do well on image pdf's. - Original Message - From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 The latest version of Cobra still has OCR in it. (Some recent ACB Radio main menu podcasts refer.) One hopes it will do well on image pdf's, so that people aren't disappointed and that further development can take place. Now the other big screen-readers will have to follow suit. - Original Message - From: soner soner.b...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 OCR feature is indeed an old yet a failed idea trying to be implemented by Baum of Germany before in its screen reading product called Cobra. Should Baum sue Freedom then? :) Let the joke aside, this is really a great move and as Mr. Mosen puts it well, a game changer in screen reading technology. yet İ wanna pose a big but about the choice of Freedom's Omnipage as its OCR engine that it is not the best in the market, as FS guys also may know very well that most of the blinds over the world having non-FreedomScientific options, use ABBYY Fine reader which is the pinnacle of the OCR products in the market as of today. So, a perfect idea with a wrong choice of engin... P.S: independent reviews juxtaposing the two engins mentioned above can easily be found with a simple Google search. Regards For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13
Hi Flor, I agree with you whole heartedly! Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Flor Lynch To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 1:16 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 Not my experience. JAWS12 was and is more stable than JAWS11, for sure. - Original Message - From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:36 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 Hi List I hope jaws 13 wil be stable again. 12 was the most unstable version since jaws 5 and no value for money. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 12:12 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 Okay, listers, this is the one you've all been waiting for. In FSCast 58, Jonathan Mosen discusses the new features of JAWS 13 with Eric Damery and Dan Clark. The public beta is scheduled for release during the second week of September, so it should be out shortly. Very interesting. http://www.freedomscientific.com/FSCast/episodes/fscast058-september2011.asp Gerald For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13
On my computer this link just started the podcast playing. So I used Gerald's link and then did a right click and save target as on the following link Blindness and Low Vision Product Podcast (MP3 audio) - (September - 2011) The link I used to get to the page was the link Gerald gave, http://www.freedomscientific.com/FSCast/episodes/fscast058-september2011.asp HTH Sherrie -- From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:18 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 Hi Fanus, Give this a try: http://podcast.freedomscientific.com/FSCast/episodes/fscast058-september2011.mp3 HTH, Rick Justice - Original Message - From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 3:43 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 Hi Gerald The link you provided wants one to subscribe to the rss feed. Usually there was a link where one could download the .mp3 file but I can't find it on the site. Is this not possible anymore? Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 12:12 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 Okay, listers, this is the one you've all been waiting for. In FSCast 58, Jonathan Mosen discusses the new features of JAWS 13 with Eric Damery and Dan Clark. The public beta is scheduled for release during the second week of September, so it should be out shortly. Very interesting. http://www.freedomscientific.com/FSCast/episodes/fscast058-september2011.asp Gerald For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13
The OCR thing is way cool. Especially when Errick read the DVD main menu with it. Think about it. If JFW 13 when it does work with Win 8 doesn't hook like NVDA and System Access do, it'll be So much easyer still to watch a DVD on your own. Pluss you'll be using WMP which is already easy to use some what as it is. This will only make it all the more easier. Assuming JAWS works with out hooking to the Video that is. See because since it does that WMP thinks JAWS wants to coppy the disk so that's why one gets that diolauge about not being able to run the analogue coppy protection thing. In short, If JAWS doesn't hook to the video in Win 8, and if the OCR can scan DVD menus like it did for Erick, watching movies will be golden on the PC. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of soner Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 6:03 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 OCR feature is indeed an old yet a failed idea trying to be implemented by Baum of Germany before in its screen reading product called Cobra. Should Baum sue Freedom then? :) Let the joke aside, this is really a great move and as Mr. Mosen puts it well, a game changer in screen reading technology. yet İ wanna pose a big but about the choice of Freedom's Omnipage as its OCR engine that it is not the best in the market, as FS guys also may know very well that most of the blinds over the world having non-FreedomScientific options, use ABBYY Fine reader which is the pinnacle of the OCR products in the market as of today. So, a perfect idea with a wrong choice of engin... P.S: independent reviews juxtaposing the two engins mentioned above can easily be found with a simple Google search. Regards For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13
Hi, I agree with you about the OCR. In Israel, I use ABBYY FineReader 11 professional edition because the OCR is much better and I don't think that omnipage has Hebrew support. So, JAWS 13 will not have Hebrew OCR but Baum uses FineReader and has Hebrew. But, because I don't like Baum and I love FS, I will be stuck for this feature! Adi. Regards, Adi. -Original Message- From: Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 5:00 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 The OCR thing is way cool. Especially when Errick read the DVD main menu with it. Think about it. If JFW 13 when it does work with Win 8 doesn't hook like NVDA and System Access do, it'll be So much easyer still to watch a DVD on your own. Pluss you'll be using WMP which is already easy to use some what as it is. This will only make it all the more easier. Assuming JAWS works with out hooking to the Video that is. See because since it does that WMP thinks JAWS wants to coppy the disk so that's why one gets that diolauge about not being able to run the analogue coppy protection thing. In short, If JAWS doesn't hook to the video in Win 8, and if the OCR can scan DVD menus like it did for Erick, watching movies will be golden on the PC. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of soner Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 6:03 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 OCR feature is indeed an old yet a failed idea trying to be implemented by Baum of Germany before in its screen reading product called Cobra. Should Baum sue Freedom then? :) Let the joke aside, this is really a great move and as Mr. Mosen puts it well, a game changer in screen reading technology. yet İ wanna pose a big but about the choice of Freedom's Omnipage as its OCR engine that it is not the best in the market, as FS guys also may know very well that most of the blinds over the world having non-FreedomScientific options, use ABBYY Fine reader which is the pinnacle of the OCR products in the market as of today. So, a perfect idea with a wrong choice of engin... P.S: independent reviews juxtaposing the two engins mentioned above can easily be found with a simple Google search. Regards For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13
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Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13
Hello, I have not yet heard the podcast from Freedom Scientific, but I want to point out to people using Office 2010 with OneNote in the suite that you can do OCR on image files using that program. You can extract text from .tif, .jpg, .pdf, etc. If you open a .TIF file that contains text (in Windows Photo viewer for example), simply copy the text to the clipboard. Open OneNote using Windows key with N. Paste the contents of the clipboard. If you get a pop up menu choose to open the file as a print out so you can add notes. When the image is pasted arrow up or down to the line that says something like machine generated text and use application key. Arrow down to the menu choice for copying text from image and press enter key. You can then open Word and paste the text. It does a pretty good job. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adi Kushnir Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:06 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 Hi, I agree with you about the OCR. In Israel, I use ABBYY FineReader 11 professional edition because the OCR is much better and I don't think that omnipage has Hebrew support. So, JAWS 13 will not have Hebrew OCR but Baum uses FineReader and has Hebrew. But, because I don't like Baum and I love FS, I will be stuck for this feature! Adi. Regards, Adi. -Original Message- From: Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 5:00 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 The OCR thing is way cool. Especially when Errick read the DVD main menu with it. Think about it. If JFW 13 when it does work with Win 8 doesn't hook like NVDA and System Access do, it'll be So much easyer still to watch a DVD on your own. Pluss you'll be using WMP which is already easy to use some what as it is. This will only make it all the more easier. Assuming JAWS works with out hooking to the Video that is. See because since it does that WMP thinks JAWS wants to coppy the disk so that's why one gets that diolauge about not being able to run the analogue coppy protection thing. In short, If JAWS doesn't hook to the video in Win 8, and if the OCR can scan DVD menus like it did for Erick, watching movies will be golden on the PC. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of soner Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 6:03 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 OCR feature is indeed an old yet a failed idea trying to be implemented by Baum of Germany before in its screen reading product called Cobra. Should Baum sue Freedom then? :) Let the joke aside, this is really a great move and as Mr. Mosen puts it well, a game changer in screen reading technology. yet İ wanna pose a big but about the choice of Freedom's Omnipage as its OCR engine that it is not the best in the market, as FS guys also may know very well that most of the blinds over the world having non-FreedomScientific options, use ABBYY Fine reader which is the pinnacle of the OCR products in the market as of today. So, a perfect idea with a wrong choice of engin... P.S: independent reviews juxtaposing the two engins mentioned above can easily be found with a simple Google search. Regards For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13
Good Day List Members: I found JAWS 12 to be very stable. There were more issues with JAWS 11. John O'Rourke -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 3:36 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: JAWS-Users-List Digest, Vol 155, Issue 1 Send JAWS-Users-List mailing list submissions to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://jaws-users.com/mailman/listinfo/jaws-users-list_jaws-users.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com You can reach the person managing the list at jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of JAWS-Users-List digest... Today's Topics: 1. New FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 (Gerald Levy) 2. FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 (Gerald Levy) 3. Re: FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 (Fanus) 4. Re: FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 (Fanus) 5. Re: FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 (Rick Justice) 6. Re: FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 (Flor Lynch) 7. Re: FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 (Glen Jan) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 17:55:33 -0400 From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] New FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 Message-ID: 202E66C2646D407E9C204F29B0488E3B@glevy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Okay, listers, this is the one you've all been waiting for. In FSCast 58, Jonathan Mosen discusses the new features of JAWS 13 with Eric Damery and Dan Clark. The public beta is scheduled for release during the second week of September, so it should be out shortly. Very interesting. http://www.freedomscientific.com/FSCast/episodes/fscast058-september2011.asp Gerald -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 18:12:42 -0400 From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 Message-ID: 0E643886934B4992BA867B73A88A09AA@glevy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Okay, listers, this is the one you've all been waiting for. In FSCast 58, Jonathan Mosen discusses the new features of JAWS 13 with Eric Damery and Dan Clark. The public beta is scheduled for release during the second week of September, so it should be out shortly. Very interesting. http://www.freedomscientific.com/FSCast/episodes/fscast058-september2011.asp Gerald -- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:36:19 +0200 From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 Message-ID: AF6721CE405D4C0EBD61B527BCC9C103@user6b6fc07835 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi List I hope jaws 13 wil be stable again. 12 was the most unstable version since jaws 5 and no value for money. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 12:12 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 Okay, listers, this is the one you've all been waiting for. In FSCast 58, Jonathan Mosen discusses the new features of JAWS 13 with Eric Damery and Dan Clark. The public beta is scheduled for release during the second week of September, so it should be out shortly. Very interesting. http://www.freedomscientific.com/FSCast/episodes/fscast058-september2011.asp Gerald For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- Message: 4 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:43:14 +0200 From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 Message-ID: EE8F69B220FD493B86156B467DC896E4@user6b6fc07835 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Gerald The link you provided wants one to subscribe to the rss feed. Usually there was a link where one could download the .mp3 file but I can't find it on the site. Is this not possible anymore? Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 12:12 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 Okay, listers, this is the one you've all been waiting for. In FSCast 58, Jonathan Mosen discusses the new features of JAWS 13 with Eric Damery and Dan Clark. The public beta is scheduled for release during the second week of September, so it should be out shortly. Very interesting. http://www.freedomscientific.com/FSCast/episodes/fscast058-september2011.asp Gerald For answers
Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13
Well said. I agree whole heartedly. If everything works as he showed in the podcast, I think this will be the greatest version yet. I am very excited. Cheers, Gena -Original Message- From: Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:00 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 The OCR thing is way cool. Especially when Errick read the DVD main menu with it. Think about it. If JFW 13 when it does work with Win 8 doesn't hook like NVDA and System Access do, it'll be So much easyer still to watch a DVD on your own. Pluss you'll be using WMP which is already easy to use some what as it is. This will only make it all the more easier. Assuming JAWS works with out hooking to the Video that is. See because since it does that WMP thinks JAWS wants to coppy the disk so that's why one gets that diolauge about not being able to run the analogue coppy protection thing. In short, If JAWS doesn't hook to the video in Win 8, and if the OCR can scan DVD menus like it did for Erick, watching movies will be golden on the PC. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of soner Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 6:03 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 OCR feature is indeed an old yet a failed idea trying to be implemented by Baum of Germany before in its screen reading product called Cobra. Should Baum sue Freedom then? :) Let the joke aside, this is really a great move and as Mr. Mosen puts it well, a game changer in screen reading technology. yet İ wanna pose a big but about the choice of Freedom's Omnipage as its OCR engine that it is not the best in the market, as FS guys also may know very well that most of the blinds over the world having non-FreedomScientific options, use ABBYY Fine reader which is the pinnacle of the OCR products in the market as of today. So, a perfect idea with a wrong choice of engin... P.S: independent reviews juxtaposing the two engins mentioned above can easily be found with a simple Google search. Regards For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13
I agree it sounds impressive, still I wonder what kind of overhead is going to be involved memory wise to accomplish some of the new features. I hope the difference won't be too significant. Just something to consider although I'm sure they have thought of that already. David Ferrin Most people don't know what they're doing and a lot of them are really good at it. - Original Message - From: Gena wildflow...@tampabay.rr.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 Well said. I agree whole heartedly. If everything works as he showed in the podcast, I think this will be the greatest version yet. I am very excited. Cheers, Gena -Original Message- From: Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:00 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 The OCR thing is way cool. Especially when Errick read the DVD main menu with it. Think about it. If JFW 13 when it does work with Win 8 doesn't hook like NVDA and System Access do, it'll be So much easyer still to watch a DVD on your own. Pluss you'll be using WMP which is already easy to use some what as it is. This will only make it all the more easier. Assuming JAWS works with out hooking to the Video that is. See because since it does that WMP thinks JAWS wants to coppy the disk so that's why one gets that diolauge about not being able to run the analogue coppy protection thing. In short, If JAWS doesn't hook to the video in Win 8, and if the OCR can scan DVD menus like it did for Erick, watching movies will be golden on the PC. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of soner Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 6:03 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13 OCR feature is indeed an old yet a failed idea trying to be implemented by Baum of Germany before in its screen reading product called Cobra. Should Baum sue Freedom then? :) Let the joke aside, this is really a great move and as Mr. Mosen puts it well, a game changer in screen reading technology. yet İ wanna pose a big but about the choice of Freedom's Omnipage as its OCR engine that it is not the best in the market, as FS guys also may know very well that most of the blinds over the world having non-FreedomScientific options, use ABBYY Fine reader which is the pinnacle of the OCR products in the market as of today. So, a perfect idea with a wrong choice of engin... P.S: independent reviews juxtaposing the two engins mentioned above can easily be found with a simple Google search. Regards For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13
Okay, listers, this is the one you've all been waiting for. In FSCast 58, Jonathan Mosen discusses the new features of JAWS 13 with Eric Damery and Dan Clark. The public beta is scheduled for release during the second week of September, so it should be out shortly. Very interesting. http://www.freedomscientific.com/FSCast/episodes/fscast058-september2011.asp Gerald For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
