Re: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke

2011-06-29 Thread David Ferrin
It works and I forwarded it to the guy who asked me this afternoon.
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up 
too.
- Original Message - 
From: "Mike & Barbara in Arcadia" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke


Hi David,

This may not be exactly what you're looking for but, it will work as well,
hopefully, maybe!?  Below are couple of notes that I've saved.

Note #1:
One thing you can do is to select and copy information from a web site as

text only.  This use to be the default in earlier versions of JAWS.  When on

a web page bring up JAWS verbosity with Insert_V and use down arrow to move

to the "virtual cursor settings choice."  Expand the group if it is closed

by using right arrow.  Use down arrow to move to the choice "select and copy

full content using on screen highlight."  Press the spacebar until JAWS says

"select and copy using virtual cursor" and then press the enter key.  When

you select the information and copy or append it to the clipboard, the

formatting and HTML element information won't be included.

Take care.
Brian Lee

Note #2:
I am working on a sales training manual and find that the following removes

html formatting from source material copied from web based resources.

1. Highlight the text/Email you want to copy.

2. Copy it to the windows clipboard with CTRL+C.

3. Return to or open a new document.

4. If you are copying text into an existing document, When you get to the
place you want to insert your copied material press

alt+E. Just press Alt + E if you are pasting text into a new document.

5. Up-arrow until you hear Jaws say "paste special"

6. Press enter and up-arrow until you hear Jaws say "paste as unformatted

text" and press enter.

This will remove all of the HTML formatting from your copied material and

insert it into your document.

Be advised that your cursor will be at the bottom of the inserted material

and you will need to use the appropriate reading commands to get to the

beginning of your text.

HTH Larry Stansifer


  Hope this has helped.  Take care.
  Mike
  - Original Message - 
  From: David Ferrin
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 3:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke


  You guys misunderstand my question. The F8 will select the entire table so
  you can copy it. My question is how do I make it so the formatting is
lost.
  Several versions already allow you to maintain the format for pasting in
to
  an editing program, I'd like to know how to toggle back and forth to the
old
  method.
  David Ferrin
  You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to
skydive
  twice.
  - Original Message - 
  From: "kimsan" 
  To: 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 5:26 PM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke


  F8...
  You press this key when you are at the top where it tells you how many
  collumns and rows.


  www.BlindAccessTraining.com

  -Original Message-
  From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
  [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin
  Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 01:54 PM
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke

  I am trying to remember the keystroke for copying a table but not retain
the
  formatting information, in other words simply the text. I'm sure somebody
  out there knows it right off the top of their head, so please send it
along,
  thanks.
  David Ferrin
  Most people don't know what they're doing and a lot of them are really
good
  at it.
  For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
  http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


  For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
  http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke

2011-06-29 Thread David Ferrin
It sounds like it might just be the thing. I'll try it out and let you know. 
Thanks to all who responded.
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up 
too.
- Original Message - 
From: "Mike & Barbara in Arcadia" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke


Hi David,

This may not be exactly what you're looking for but, it will work as well,
hopefully, maybe!?  Below are couple of notes that I've saved.

Note #1:
One thing you can do is to select and copy information from a web site as

text only.  This use to be the default in earlier versions of JAWS.  When on

a web page bring up JAWS verbosity with Insert_V and use down arrow to move

to the "virtual cursor settings choice."  Expand the group if it is closed

by using right arrow.  Use down arrow to move to the choice "select and copy

full content using on screen highlight."  Press the spacebar until JAWS says

"select and copy using virtual cursor" and then press the enter key.  When

you select the information and copy or append it to the clipboard, the

formatting and HTML element information won't be included.

Take care.
Brian Lee

Note #2:
I am working on a sales training manual and find that the following removes

html formatting from source material copied from web based resources.

1. Highlight the text/Email you want to copy.

2. Copy it to the windows clipboard with CTRL+C.

3. Return to or open a new document.

4. If you are copying text into an existing document, When you get to the
place you want to insert your copied material press

alt+E. Just press Alt + E if you are pasting text into a new document.

5. Up-arrow until you hear Jaws say "paste special"

6. Press enter and up-arrow until you hear Jaws say "paste as unformatted

text" and press enter.

This will remove all of the HTML formatting from your copied material and

insert it into your document.

Be advised that your cursor will be at the bottom of the inserted material

and you will need to use the appropriate reading commands to get to the

beginning of your text.

HTH Larry Stansifer


  Hope this has helped.  Take care.
  Mike
  - Original Message - 
  From: David Ferrin
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 3:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke


  You guys misunderstand my question. The F8 will select the entire table so
  you can copy it. My question is how do I make it so the formatting is
lost.
  Several versions already allow you to maintain the format for pasting in
to
  an editing program, I'd like to know how to toggle back and forth to the
old
  method.
  David Ferrin
  You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to
skydive
  twice.
  - Original Message - 
  From: "kimsan" 
  To: 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 5:26 PM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke


  F8...
  You press this key when you are at the top where it tells you how many
  collumns and rows.


  www.BlindAccessTraining.com

  -Original Message-
  From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
  [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin
  Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 01:54 PM
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke

  I am trying to remember the keystroke for copying a table but not retain
the
  formatting information, in other words simply the text. I'm sure somebody
  out there knows it right off the top of their head, so please send it
along,
  thanks.
  David Ferrin
  Most people don't know what they're doing and a lot of them are really
good
  at it.
  For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
  http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


  For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
  http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


  For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
  http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke

2011-06-29 Thread lmorris1953
What if you select and copy from virtual cursor via insert v. Would that do 
the trick?


-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 6:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke

You guys misunderstand my question. The F8 will select the entire table so
you can copy it. My question is how do I make it so the formatting is lost.
Several versions already allow you to maintain the format for pasting in to
an editing program, I'd like to know how to toggle back and forth to the old
method.
David Ferrin
You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive
twice.
- Original Message - 
From: "kimsan" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke


F8...
You press this key when you are at the top where it tells you how many
collumns and rows.


www.BlindAccessTraining.com

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 01:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke

I am trying to remember the keystroke for copying a table but not retain the
formatting information, in other words simply the text. I'm sure somebody
out there knows it right off the top of their head, so please send it along,
thanks.
David Ferrin
Most people don't know what they're doing and a lot of them are really good
at it.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke

2011-06-29 Thread Mike & Barbara in Arcadia
Hi David,

This may not be exactly what you're looking for but, it will work as well, 
hopefully, maybe!?  Below are couple of notes that I've saved.

Note #1:
One thing you can do is to select and copy information from a web site as

text only.  This use to be the default in earlier versions of JAWS.  When on

a web page bring up JAWS verbosity with Insert_V and use down arrow to move

to the "virtual cursor settings choice."  Expand the group if it is closed

by using right arrow.  Use down arrow to move to the choice "select and copy

full content using on screen highlight."  Press the spacebar until JAWS says

"select and copy using virtual cursor" and then press the enter key.  When

you select the information and copy or append it to the clipboard, the

formatting and HTML element information won't be included.

Take care.
Brian Lee

Note #2:
I am working on a sales training manual and find that the following removes

html formatting from source material copied from web based resources.

1. Highlight the text/Email you want to copy.

2. Copy it to the windows clipboard with CTRL+C.

3. Return to or open a new document.

4. If you are copying text into an existing document, When you get to the 
place you want to insert your copied material press

alt+E. Just press Alt + E if you are pasting text into a new document.

5. Up-arrow until you hear Jaws say "paste special"

6. Press enter and up-arrow until you hear Jaws say "paste as unformatted

text" and press enter.

This will remove all of the HTML formatting from your copied material and

insert it into your document.

Be advised that your cursor will be at the bottom of the inserted material

and you will need to use the appropriate reading commands to get to the

beginning of your text.

HTH Larry Stansifer


  Hope this has helped.  Take care.
  Mike
  - Original Message - 
  From: David Ferrin
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 3:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke


  You guys misunderstand my question. The F8 will select the entire table so
  you can copy it. My question is how do I make it so the formatting is 
lost.
  Several versions already allow you to maintain the format for pasting in 
to
  an editing program, I'd like to know how to toggle back and forth to the 
old
  method.
  David Ferrin
  You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to 
skydive
  twice.
  - Original Message - 
  From: "kimsan" 
  To: 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 5:26 PM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke


  F8...
  You press this key when you are at the top where it tells you how many
  collumns and rows.


  www.BlindAccessTraining.com

  -Original Message-
  From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
  [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin
  Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 01:54 PM
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke

  I am trying to remember the keystroke for copying a table but not retain 
the
  formatting information, in other words simply the text. I'm sure somebody
  out there knows it right off the top of their head, so please send it 
along,
  thanks.
  David Ferrin
  Most people don't know what they're doing and a lot of them are really 
good
  at it.
  For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
  http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


  For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
  http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


  For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke

2011-06-29 Thread Alex Stone
David, if they're pasting it into word or somewhere like that, then  if they
do "paste special" then they can paste the table without formatting. But if
they're not, I don't know.
Cheers
Alex

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: 29 June 2011 23:33
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke

Probably, it's for a friend of mine who wants to know and the fact is I
couldn't find it in the help files.
David Ferrin
You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive
twice.
- Original Message -
From: "Alex Stone" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke


David, this may be a stupid comment, but doesn't that depend on how you
paste it rather than how you copy it?
Cheers
Alex

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: 29 June 2011 23:25
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke

You guys misunderstand my question. The F8 will select the entire table so
you can copy it. My question is how do I make it so the formatting is lost.
Several versions already allow you to maintain the format for pasting in to
an editing program, I'd like to know how to toggle back and forth to the old

method.
David Ferrin
You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive

twice.
- Original Message -
From: "kimsan" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke


F8...
You press this key when you are at the top where it tells you how many
collumns and rows.


www.BlindAccessTraining.com

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 01:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke

I am trying to remember the keystroke for copying a table but not retain the
formatting information, in other words simply the text. I'm sure somebody
out there knows it right off the top of their head, so please send it along,
thanks.
David Ferrin
Most people don't know what they're doing and a lot of them are really good
at it.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke

2011-06-29 Thread David Ferrin
Probably, it's for a friend of mine who wants to know and the fact is I 
couldn't find it in the help files.
David Ferrin
You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive 
twice.
- Original Message - 
From: "Alex Stone" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke


David, this may be a stupid comment, but doesn't that depend on how you
paste it rather than how you copy it?
Cheers
Alex

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: 29 June 2011 23:25
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke

You guys misunderstand my question. The F8 will select the entire table so
you can copy it. My question is how do I make it so the formatting is lost.
Several versions already allow you to maintain the format for pasting in to
an editing program, I'd like to know how to toggle back and forth to the old

method.
David Ferrin
You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive

twice.
- Original Message - 
From: "kimsan" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke


F8...
You press this key when you are at the top where it tells you how many
collumns and rows.


www.BlindAccessTraining.com

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 01:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke

I am trying to remember the keystroke for copying a table but not retain the
formatting information, in other words simply the text. I'm sure somebody
out there knows it right off the top of their head, so please send it along,
thanks.
David Ferrin
Most people don't know what they're doing and a lot of them are really good
at it.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke

2011-06-29 Thread Alex Stone
David, this may be a stupid comment, but doesn't that depend on how you
paste it rather than how you copy it?
Cheers
Alex

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: 29 June 2011 23:25
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke

You guys misunderstand my question. The F8 will select the entire table so 
you can copy it. My question is how do I make it so the formatting is lost. 
Several versions already allow you to maintain the format for pasting in to 
an editing program, I'd like to know how to toggle back and forth to the old

method.
David Ferrin
You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive

twice.
- Original Message - 
From: "kimsan" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke


F8...
You press this key when you are at the top where it tells you how many
collumns and rows.


www.BlindAccessTraining.com

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 01:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke

I am trying to remember the keystroke for copying a table but not retain the
formatting information, in other words simply the text. I'm sure somebody
out there knows it right off the top of their head, so please send it along,
thanks.
David Ferrin
Most people don't know what they're doing and a lot of them are really good
at it.
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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke

2011-06-29 Thread David Ferrin
You guys misunderstand my question. The F8 will select the entire table so 
you can copy it. My question is how do I make it so the formatting is lost. 
Several versions already allow you to maintain the format for pasting in to 
an editing program, I'd like to know how to toggle back and forth to the old 
method.
David Ferrin
You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive 
twice.
- Original Message - 
From: "kimsan" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke


F8...
You press this key when you are at the top where it tells you how many
collumns and rows.


www.BlindAccessTraining.com

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 01:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke

I am trying to remember the keystroke for copying a table but not retain the
formatting information, in other words simply the text. I'm sure somebody
out there knows it right off the top of their head, so please send it along,
thanks.
David Ferrin
Most people don't know what they're doing and a lot of them are really good
at it.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke

2011-06-29 Thread kimsan
F8... 
You press this key when you are at the top where it tells you how many
collumns and rows.


www.BlindAccessTraining.com

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 01:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke

I am trying to remember the keystroke for copying a table but not retain the
formatting information, in other words simply the text. I'm sure somebody
out there knows it right off the top of their head, so please send it along,
thanks.
David Ferrin
Most people don't know what they're doing and a lot of them are really good
at it.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke

2011-06-29 Thread Hans Pauli Sundstein

Hi.

Place your cursor at the line, where Jaws say's "Table has ... and press f8 
and than copy the selected table.


Hans Pauli.


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Fra: David Ferrin

Dato: 29. juni 2011 22:53
Til: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Emne: [JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke

I am trying to remember the keystroke for copying a table but not retain the 
formatting information, in other words simply the text. I'm sure somebody 
out there knows it right off the top of their head, so please send it along, 
thanks.

David Ferrin
Most people don't know what they're doing and a lot of them are really good 
at it.

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[JAWS-Users] HTML keystroke

2011-06-29 Thread David Ferrin
I am trying to remember the keystroke for copying a table but not retain the 
formatting information, in other words simply the text. I'm sure somebody out 
there knows it right off the top of their head, so please send it along, thanks.
David Ferrin
Most people don't know what they're doing and a lot of them are really good at 
it.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/