Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW17, HTML tables, & screen layout
"|" is a single character. What is "cell". What is actually on the screen? If it is a single character that JAWS speaks as "cell", could you put that single character in the dictionary with "|" as its replacement? Reed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Boston, Jason W Sent: November-06-15 1:34 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] JFW17, HTML tables, & screen layout Hello all, For any who read tables in html documents, you have noticed the change from "|" to "cell" being the separator between columns. I contacted FS and they did this on purpose because some don't like the |. A | has been used for this purpose since the feature of simple layout VS screen layout was introduced in Jaws years ago. I've been using it for just as long and my ear is tuned to | as a separator instead of "cell". I was told to submit a suggestion to make this a feature change. I have done so by asking if they can give the user the option of picking the character used to separate the columns when in screen layout. If anyone else agrees with me, please email FS at suggesti...@freedomscientific.com In the meantime, does anyone know how to maybe alter the scripts to do this without waiting on FS? Thanks, Jason The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW17, HTML tables, & screen layout
Nothing is on the screen. The announced word "cell" probably assigned programatically (inner and not trough JAWS Script) to HTML-element. You can modify the announced text if you modify the markup assigned to this control. To do so, you have to modify the used speech and sounds scheme (or make a brand new one and use this one as default scheme for webbrowser applications). In the speech and sounds manager you have to look the "Controls" tab and there in the listview the entry for "table cell" or something similar. There you have to choose the option 1 (Announce the control or something similar) and writing into the textbox labeled "Text" (or something similar what you want to here if you are entered a cell. Sorry for the many "or something similar" prases, but I use a localized version of JAWS and not the English one, so I'm not sure if the names translating back from Hungarian to English could be correct. Csaba 2015.11.07. 23:55 keltezéssel, Reed Poynter írta: "|" is a single character. What is "cell". What is actually on the screen? If it is a single character that JAWS speaks as "cell", could you put that single character in the dictionary with "|" as its replacement? Reed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Boston, Jason W Sent: November-06-15 1:34 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] JFW17, HTML tables, & screen layout Hello all, For any who read tables in html documents, you have noticed the change from "|" to "cell" being the separator between columns. I contacted FS and they did this on purpose because some don't like the |. A | has been used for this purpose since the feature of simple layout VS screen layout was introduced in Jaws years ago. I've been using it for just as long and my ear is tuned to | as a separator instead of "cell". I was told to submit a suggestion to make this a feature change. I have done so by asking if they can give the user the option of picking the character used to separate the columns when in screen layout. If anyone else agrees with me, please email FS at suggesti...@freedomscientific.com In the meantime, does anyone know how to maybe alter the scripts to do this without waiting on FS? Thanks, Jason The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW17, HTML tables, & screen layout
I recently listened to an archived recording of an event from the Pat Price room on accessibleworld.org presenting Eric Damery (probably misspelled his name, sorry) discussing JAWS 17. he answers a question from the participants that I think answers your question. sorry, I don't remember what he said it was. On 11/7/2015 5:55 PM, Reed Poynter wrote: "|" is a single character. What is "cell". What is actually on the screen? If it is a single character that JAWS speaks as "cell", could you put that single character in the dictionary with "|" as its replacement? Reed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Boston, Jason W Sent: November-06-15 1:34 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] JFW17, HTML tables, & screen layout Hello all, For any who read tables in html documents, you have noticed the change from "|" to "cell" being the separator between columns. I contacted FS and they did this on purpose because some don't like the |. A | has been used for this purpose since the feature of simple layout VS screen layout was introduced in Jaws years ago. I've been using it for just as long and my ear is tuned to | as a separator instead of "cell". I was told to submit a suggestion to make this a feature change. I have done so by asking if they can give the user the option of picking the character used to separate the columns when in screen layout. If anyone else agrees with me, please email FS at suggesti...@freedomscientific.com In the meantime, does anyone know how to maybe alter the scripts to do this without waiting on FS? Thanks, Jason The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW17, HTML tables, & screen layout
No, I've tried. "cell" is what jaws says in screen layout between columns on a table. This is within an HTML document, web site, etc. Jaws is saying "cell" between the columns. When reading by character it is like one character, but you can't add it to the dictionary. Thanks, Jason -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Reed Poynter Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 4:56 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW17, HTML tables, & screen layout "|" is a single character. What is "cell". What is actually on the screen? If it is a single character that JAWS speaks as "cell", could you put that single character in the dictionary with "|" as its replacement? Reed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Boston, Jason W Sent: November-06-15 1:34 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] JFW17, HTML tables, & screen layout Hello all, For any who read tables in html documents, you have noticed the change from "|" to "cell" being the separator between columns. I contacted FS and they did this on purpose because some don't like the |. A | has been used for this purpose since the feature of simple layout VS screen layout was introduced in Jaws years ago. I've been using it for just as long and my ear is tuned to | as a separator instead of "cell". I was told to submit a suggestion to make this a feature change. I have done so by asking if they can give the user the option of picking the character used to separate the columns when in screen layout. If anyone else agrees with me, please email FS at suggesti...@freedomscientific.com In the meantime, does anyone know how to maybe alter the scripts to do this without waiting on FS? Thanks, Jason The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] JFW17, HTML tables, & screen layout
Hello all, For any who read tables in html documents, you have noticed the change from "|" to "cell" being the separator between columns. I contacted FS and they did this on purpose because some don't like the |. A | has been used for this purpose since the feature of simple layout VS screen layout was introduced in Jaws years ago. I've been using it for just as long and my ear is tuned to | as a separator instead of "cell". I was told to submit a suggestion to make this a feature change. I have done so by asking if they can give the user the option of picking the character used to separate the columns when in screen layout. If anyone else agrees with me, please email FS at suggesti...@freedomscientific.com In the meantime, does anyone know how to maybe alter the scripts to do this without waiting on FS? Thanks, Jason The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
