Re: [JAWS-Users] Virtual Ribbon verses Microsoft Ribbons
Turn on the JAWS virtual ribbon menu in JAWS settings (Insert + F2, then to settings) or in each of the applications JAWS supports(Insert + V, quick Settings). The ribbons themselves must be maximized. There was a lot of discussion in a recent thread on JAWS-Users.com about maximizing virtual ribbons. Minimized ribbons are anathema to mental health. On 3/26/2014 1:01 PM, Peter Dettlaff wrote: Jim, Your excellent explanation has convinced me to try virtual ribbons. How do I turn them on and off? Thx in advance. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jim Pursley Sent: March 25, 2014 06:26 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Virtual Ribbon verses Microsoft Ribbons If I had to guess, virtual ribbons are the brainchild of people coping with how to incorporate increasing complexity (read flexibility and choice) into common applications such as word processing and spreadsheets. My assistant isn't at all flummoxed at producing great documents using Word and Excel 2010. When I was having trouble navigating to even save a word document, I asked her how to do it. Well..we're in two different worlds. And so we slog along primitively pecking away at a gazillion keys which emulate graphic functions. Long answer for your short question. Surely there are others on the list far more competent to answer your question than I. I note that you've learned Thunderbird well. From my perspective, it combines the best of both the top line and ribbon menu worlds. On 3/25/2014 9:35 PM, Maria Campbell wrote: So then, why did MS introduce them? Do the sighted enjoy stumbling around in the semi darkness? Sunny Day Maria Campbell lucky1i...@sbcglobal.net When the power of love is stronger than the love of power, Then the world will know peace. On 3/25/2014 7:18 PM, Jim Pursley wrote: Semantics. In Word and Excel, there are the more general top line ribbons and the more specific bottom line ribbons. The top line ribbon has a home position, helpful to navigating. The bottom ribbon (which I called a line) has sub parts, which the JAWS virtual ribbon feature makes look like the sub menus on the top line menu familiar to most of us. The whole point of the JAWS virtual ribbon menu is to create the appearance of the top line menu/sub menu combination. All of this said, navigating ribbons is a bit like navigating a ship at night by sight using sunglasses. Cheers. On 3/25/2014 4:31 PM, Tom Clary wrote: be more specific. where does the bottom line start on the ribbons? On 3/25/14, Jim Pursley wrote: Just another way to say bottom line. On 3/25/2014 3:30 PM, Tom Clary wrote: what do you mean 2nd line menus? On 3/25/14, Jim Pursley wrote: So far, I prefer the JAWS virtual ribbon as I don't use much on the second line menus on Word and use mainly keystrokes on Excel. The JAWS virtual ribbon works fine for me in Thunderbird. Drawback to the JAWS virtual ribbons: Cant use first letter navigation on the lower ribbon. I've heard conflicting tales about the JAWS virtual ribbon leaving out some menu choices. But, like I said, I'm a newby to virtual ribbons. On 3/25/2014 2:55 PM, Pinky wrote: Hi Jaws users, Is it easier to use the virtual ribbon in jaws as to just using the Microsoft ribbons? I would like opinions from all you Jaws users as to which way you have your pc setup. Which one is easier to use. Ed For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9591 (20140325) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9591 (20140325) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9591 (20140325) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9593 (20140325) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about th
Re: [JAWS-Users] Virtual Ribbon verses Microsoft Ribbons
Jim, Your excellent explanation has convinced me to try virtual ribbons. How do I turn them on and off? Thx in advance. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jim Pursley Sent: March 25, 2014 06:26 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Virtual Ribbon verses Microsoft Ribbons If I had to guess, virtual ribbons are the brainchild of people coping with how to incorporate increasing complexity (read flexibility and choice) into common applications such as word processing and spreadsheets. My assistant isn't at all flummoxed at producing great documents using Word and Excel 2010. When I was having trouble navigating to even save a word document, I asked her how to do it. Well..we're in two different worlds. And so we slog along primitively pecking away at a gazillion keys which emulate graphic functions. Long answer for your short question. Surely there are others on the list far more competent to answer your question than I. I note that you've learned Thunderbird well. From my perspective, it combines the best of both the top line and ribbon menu worlds. On 3/25/2014 9:35 PM, Maria Campbell wrote: > So then, why did MS introduce them? > Do the sighted enjoy stumbling around in the semi darkness? > > > Sunny Day > Maria Campbell > lucky1i...@sbcglobal.net > > When the power of love is stronger than the love of power, > Then the world will know peace. > > On 3/25/2014 7:18 PM, Jim Pursley wrote: >> Semantics. In Word and Excel, there are the more general top line >> ribbons and the more specific bottom line ribbons. The top line >> ribbon has a home position, helpful to navigating. >> >> The bottom ribbon (which I called a line) has sub parts, which the >> JAWS virtual ribbon feature makes look like the sub menus on the top >> line menu familiar to most of us. The whole point of the JAWS virtual >> ribbon menu is to create the appearance of the top line menu/sub menu >> combination. >> >> All of this said, navigating ribbons is a bit like navigating a ship >> at night by sight using sunglasses. >> >> Cheers. >> On 3/25/2014 4:31 PM, Tom Clary wrote: >>> be more specific. where does the bottom line start on the ribbons? >>> On 3/25/14, Jim Pursley wrote: >>>> Just another way to say bottom line. >>>> On 3/25/2014 3:30 PM, Tom Clary wrote: >>>>> what do you mean 2nd line menus? >>>>> >>>>> On 3/25/14, Jim Pursley wrote: >>>>>> So far, I prefer the JAWS virtual ribbon as I don't use much on the >>>>>> second line menus on Word and use mainly keystrokes on Excel. The >>>>>> JAWS >>>>>> virtual ribbon works fine for me in Thunderbird. Drawback to the >>>>>> JAWS >>>>>> virtual ribbons: Cant use first letter navigation on the lower >>>>>> ribbon. >>>>>> I've heard conflicting tales about the JAWS virtual ribbon >>>>>> leaving out >>>>>> some menu choices. >>>>>> >>>>>> But, like I said, I'm a newby to virtual ribbons. >>>>>> On 3/25/2014 2:55 PM, Pinky wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Jaws users, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is it easier to use the virtual ribbon in jaws as to just using the >>>>>>> Microsoft ribbons? I would like opinions from all you Jaws users >>>>>>> as to >>>>>>> which way you have your pc setup. Which one is easier to use. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ed >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>>>>>> signature database 9591 (20140325) __ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.eset.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>>>>> >>>>> For a
Re: [JAWS-Users] Virtual Ribbon verses Microsoft Ribbons
I wonder if it is because they look good? Seems I heard that from somewhere. People love eye candy. On 3/25/2014 7:35 PM, Maria Campbell wrote: So then, why did MS introduce them? Do the sighted enjoy stumbling around in the semi darkness? Sunny Day Maria Campbell lucky1i...@sbcglobal.net When the power of love is stronger than the love of power, Then the world will know peace. On 3/25/2014 7:18 PM, Jim Pursley wrote: Semantics. In Word and Excel, there are the more general top line ribbons and the more specific bottom line ribbons. The top line ribbon has a home position, helpful to navigating. The bottom ribbon (which I called a line) has sub parts, which the JAWS virtual ribbon feature makes look like the sub menus on the top line menu familiar to most of us. The whole point of the JAWS virtual ribbon menu is to create the appearance of the top line menu/sub menu combination. All of this said, navigating ribbons is a bit like navigating a ship at night by sight using sunglasses. Cheers. On 3/25/2014 4:31 PM, Tom Clary wrote: be more specific. where does the bottom line start on the ribbons? On 3/25/14, Jim Pursley wrote: Just another way to say bottom line. On 3/25/2014 3:30 PM, Tom Clary wrote: what do you mean 2nd line menus? On 3/25/14, Jim Pursley wrote: So far, I prefer the JAWS virtual ribbon as I don't use much on the second line menus on Word and use mainly keystrokes on Excel. The JAWS virtual ribbon works fine for me in Thunderbird. Drawback to the JAWS virtual ribbons: Cant use first letter navigation on the lower ribbon. I've heard conflicting tales about the JAWS virtual ribbon leaving out some menu choices. But, like I said, I'm a newby to virtual ribbons. On 3/25/2014 2:55 PM, Pinky wrote: Hi Jaws users, Is it easier to use the virtual ribbon in jaws as to just using the Microsoft ribbons? I would like opinions from all you Jaws users as to which way you have your pc setup. Which one is easier to use. Ed For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9591 (20140325) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9591 (20140325) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9591 (20140325) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Virtual Ribbon verses Microsoft Ribbons
Because they claim customer feedback which shows that people can't find menu items if they're hidden through to many layers (read submenus), can't memorise/visualise where they are. I've seen some explanations which put this forth, but i don't have URL's to hand to find them. instead of things being layered horizontally as a basis, they are being layered more hierarchically and in shorter cross-sections. The blind have to fight against or with a stronger tide, is what it amounts to. - Original Message - From: "Maria Campbell" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 12:35 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Virtual Ribbon verses Microsoft Ribbons So then, why did MS introduce them? Do the sighted enjoy stumbling around in the semi darkness? Sunny Day Maria Campbell lucky1i...@sbcglobal.net When the power of love is stronger than the love of power, Then the world will know peace. On 3/25/2014 7:18 PM, Jim Pursley wrote: Semantics. In Word and Excel, there are the more general top line ribbons and the more specific bottom line ribbons. The top line ribbon has a home position, helpful to navigating. The bottom ribbon (which I called a line) has sub parts, which the JAWS virtual ribbon feature makes look like the sub menus on the top line menu familiar to most of us. The whole point of the JAWS virtual ribbon menu is to create the appearance of the top line menu/sub menu combination. All of this said, navigating ribbons is a bit like navigating a ship at night by sight using sunglasses. Cheers. On 3/25/2014 4:31 PM, Tom Clary wrote: be more specific. where does the bottom line start on the ribbons? On 3/25/14, Jim Pursley wrote: Just another way to say bottom line. On 3/25/2014 3:30 PM, Tom Clary wrote: what do you mean 2nd line menus? On 3/25/14, Jim Pursley wrote: So far, I prefer the JAWS virtual ribbon as I don't use much on the second line menus on Word and use mainly keystrokes on Excel. The JAWS virtual ribbon works fine for me in Thunderbird. Drawback to the JAWS virtual ribbons: Cant use first letter navigation on the lower ribbon. I've heard conflicting tales about the JAWS virtual ribbon leaving out some menu choices. But, like I said, I'm a newby to virtual ribbons. On 3/25/2014 2:55 PM, Pinky wrote: Hi Jaws users, Is it easier to use the virtual ribbon in jaws as to just using the Microsoft ribbons? I would like opinions from all you Jaws users as to which way you have your pc setup. Which one is easier to use. Ed For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9591 (20140325) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9591 (20140325) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9591 (20140325) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Virtual Ribbon verses Microsoft Ribbons
If I had to guess, virtual ribbons are the brainchild of people coping with how to incorporate increasing complexity (read flexibility and choice) into common applications such as word processing and spreadsheets. My assistant isn't at all flummoxed at producing great documents using Word and Excel 2010. When I was having trouble navigating to even save a word document, I asked her how to do it. Well..we're in two different worlds. And so we slog along primitively pecking away at a gazillion keys which emulate graphic functions. Long answer for your short question. Surely there are others on the list far more competent to answer your question than I. I note that you've learned Thunderbird well. From my perspective, it combines the best of both the top line and ribbon menu worlds. On 3/25/2014 9:35 PM, Maria Campbell wrote: So then, why did MS introduce them? Do the sighted enjoy stumbling around in the semi darkness? Sunny Day Maria Campbell lucky1i...@sbcglobal.net When the power of love is stronger than the love of power, Then the world will know peace. On 3/25/2014 7:18 PM, Jim Pursley wrote: Semantics. In Word and Excel, there are the more general top line ribbons and the more specific bottom line ribbons. The top line ribbon has a home position, helpful to navigating. The bottom ribbon (which I called a line) has sub parts, which the JAWS virtual ribbon feature makes look like the sub menus on the top line menu familiar to most of us. The whole point of the JAWS virtual ribbon menu is to create the appearance of the top line menu/sub menu combination. All of this said, navigating ribbons is a bit like navigating a ship at night by sight using sunglasses. Cheers. On 3/25/2014 4:31 PM, Tom Clary wrote: be more specific. where does the bottom line start on the ribbons? On 3/25/14, Jim Pursley wrote: Just another way to say bottom line. On 3/25/2014 3:30 PM, Tom Clary wrote: what do you mean 2nd line menus? On 3/25/14, Jim Pursley wrote: So far, I prefer the JAWS virtual ribbon as I don't use much on the second line menus on Word and use mainly keystrokes on Excel. The JAWS virtual ribbon works fine for me in Thunderbird. Drawback to the JAWS virtual ribbons: Cant use first letter navigation on the lower ribbon. I've heard conflicting tales about the JAWS virtual ribbon leaving out some menu choices. But, like I said, I'm a newby to virtual ribbons. On 3/25/2014 2:55 PM, Pinky wrote: Hi Jaws users, Is it easier to use the virtual ribbon in jaws as to just using the Microsoft ribbons? I would like opinions from all you Jaws users as to which way you have your pc setup. Which one is easier to use. Ed For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9591 (20140325) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9591 (20140325) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9591 (20140325) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9593 (20140325) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Virtual Ribbon verses Microsoft Ribbons
So then, why did MS introduce them? Do the sighted enjoy stumbling around in the semi darkness? Sunny Day Maria Campbell lucky1i...@sbcglobal.net When the power of love is stronger than the love of power, Then the world will know peace. On 3/25/2014 7:18 PM, Jim Pursley wrote: Semantics. In Word and Excel, there are the more general top line ribbons and the more specific bottom line ribbons. The top line ribbon has a home position, helpful to navigating. The bottom ribbon (which I called a line) has sub parts, which the JAWS virtual ribbon feature makes look like the sub menus on the top line menu familiar to most of us. The whole point of the JAWS virtual ribbon menu is to create the appearance of the top line menu/sub menu combination. All of this said, navigating ribbons is a bit like navigating a ship at night by sight using sunglasses. Cheers. On 3/25/2014 4:31 PM, Tom Clary wrote: be more specific. where does the bottom line start on the ribbons? On 3/25/14, Jim Pursley wrote: Just another way to say bottom line. On 3/25/2014 3:30 PM, Tom Clary wrote: what do you mean 2nd line menus? On 3/25/14, Jim Pursley wrote: So far, I prefer the JAWS virtual ribbon as I don't use much on the second line menus on Word and use mainly keystrokes on Excel. The JAWS virtual ribbon works fine for me in Thunderbird. Drawback to the JAWS virtual ribbons: Cant use first letter navigation on the lower ribbon. I've heard conflicting tales about the JAWS virtual ribbon leaving out some menu choices. But, like I said, I'm a newby to virtual ribbons. On 3/25/2014 2:55 PM, Pinky wrote: Hi Jaws users, Is it easier to use the virtual ribbon in jaws as to just using the Microsoft ribbons? I would like opinions from all you Jaws users as to which way you have your pc setup. Which one is easier to use. Ed For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9591 (20140325) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9591 (20140325) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9591 (20140325) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Virtual Ribbon verses Microsoft Ribbons
Semantics. In Word and Excel, there are the more general top line ribbons and the more specific bottom line ribbons. The top line ribbon has a home position, helpful to navigating. The bottom ribbon (which I called a line) has sub parts, which the JAWS virtual ribbon feature makes look like the sub menus on the top line menu familiar to most of us. The whole point of the JAWS virtual ribbon menu is to create the appearance of the top line menu/sub menu combination. All of this said, navigating ribbons is a bit like navigating a ship at night by sight using sunglasses. Cheers. On 3/25/2014 4:31 PM, Tom Clary wrote: be more specific. where does the bottom line start on the ribbons? On 3/25/14, Jim Pursley wrote: Just another way to say bottom line. On 3/25/2014 3:30 PM, Tom Clary wrote: what do you mean 2nd line menus? On 3/25/14, Jim Pursley wrote: So far, I prefer the JAWS virtual ribbon as I don't use much on the second line menus on Word and use mainly keystrokes on Excel. The JAWS virtual ribbon works fine for me in Thunderbird. Drawback to the JAWS virtual ribbons: Cant use first letter navigation on the lower ribbon. I've heard conflicting tales about the JAWS virtual ribbon leaving out some menu choices. But, like I said, I'm a newby to virtual ribbons. On 3/25/2014 2:55 PM, Pinky wrote: Hi Jaws users, Is it easier to use the virtual ribbon in jaws as to just using the Microsoft ribbons? I would like opinions from all you Jaws users as to which way you have your pc setup. Which one is easier to use. Ed For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9591 (20140325) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9591 (20140325) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9591 (20140325) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Virtual Ribbon verses Microsoft Ribbons
be more specific. where does the bottom line start on the ribbons? On 3/25/14, Jim Pursley wrote: > Just another way to say bottom line. > On 3/25/2014 3:30 PM, Tom Clary wrote: >> what do you mean 2nd line menus? >> >> On 3/25/14, Jim Pursley wrote: >>> So far, I prefer the JAWS virtual ribbon as I don't use much on the >>> second line menus on Word and use mainly keystrokes on Excel. The JAWS >>> virtual ribbon works fine for me in Thunderbird. Drawback to the JAWS >>> virtual ribbons: Cant use first letter navigation on the lower ribbon. >>> I've heard conflicting tales about the JAWS virtual ribbon leaving out >>> some menu choices. >>> >>> But, like I said, I'm a newby to virtual ribbons. >>> On 3/25/2014 2:55 PM, Pinky wrote: Hi Jaws users, Is it easier to use the virtual ribbon in jaws as to just using the Microsoft ribbons? I would like opinions from all you Jaws users as to which way you have your pc setup. Which one is easier to use. Ed For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9591 (20140325) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com >>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> >> __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 9591 (20140325) __ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Virtual Ribbon verses Microsoft Ribbons
Just another way to say bottom line. On 3/25/2014 3:30 PM, Tom Clary wrote: what do you mean 2nd line menus? On 3/25/14, Jim Pursley wrote: So far, I prefer the JAWS virtual ribbon as I don't use much on the second line menus on Word and use mainly keystrokes on Excel. The JAWS virtual ribbon works fine for me in Thunderbird. Drawback to the JAWS virtual ribbons: Cant use first letter navigation on the lower ribbon. I've heard conflicting tales about the JAWS virtual ribbon leaving out some menu choices. But, like I said, I'm a newby to virtual ribbons. On 3/25/2014 2:55 PM, Pinky wrote: Hi Jaws users, Is it easier to use the virtual ribbon in jaws as to just using the Microsoft ribbons? I would like opinions from all you Jaws users as to which way you have your pc setup. Which one is easier to use. Ed For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9591 (20140325) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9591 (20140325) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Virtual Ribbon verses Microsoft Ribbons
what do you mean 2nd line menus? On 3/25/14, Jim Pursley wrote: > So far, I prefer the JAWS virtual ribbon as I don't use much on the > second line menus on Word and use mainly keystrokes on Excel. The JAWS > virtual ribbon works fine for me in Thunderbird. Drawback to the JAWS > virtual ribbons: Cant use first letter navigation on the lower ribbon. > I've heard conflicting tales about the JAWS virtual ribbon leaving out > some menu choices. > > But, like I said, I'm a newby to virtual ribbons. > On 3/25/2014 2:55 PM, Pinky wrote: >> Hi Jaws users, >> >> >> >> Is it easier to use the virtual ribbon in jaws as to just using the >> Microsoft ribbons? I would like opinions from all you Jaws users as to >> which way you have your pc setup. Which one is easier to use. >> >> >> >> Ed >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> >> __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 9591 (20140325) __ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Virtual Ribbon verses Microsoft Ribbons
Hi, I use virtual ribbons. I can, and sometimes do, use the regular ribbons when using other screen readers. However, I find the virtual ribbons much less confusing and so, when I am using JAWS, which is most of the time, I do use the virtual ribbon feature. Thanks, Scott Duck -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Pinky Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 12:56 PM To: JAWS-Users-List 2 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Virtual Ribbon verses Microsoft Ribbons Hi Jaws users, Is it easier to use the virtual ribbon in jaws as to just using the Microsoft ribbons? I would like opinions from all you Jaws users as to which way you have your pc setup. Which one is easier to use. Ed For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Virtual Ribbon verses Microsoft Ribbons
So far, I prefer the JAWS virtual ribbon as I don't use much on the second line menus on Word and use mainly keystrokes on Excel. The JAWS virtual ribbon works fine for me in Thunderbird. Drawback to the JAWS virtual ribbons: Cant use first letter navigation on the lower ribbon. I've heard conflicting tales about the JAWS virtual ribbon leaving out some menu choices. But, like I said, I'm a newby to virtual ribbons. On 3/25/2014 2:55 PM, Pinky wrote: Hi Jaws users, Is it easier to use the virtual ribbon in jaws as to just using the Microsoft ribbons? I would like opinions from all you Jaws users as to which way you have your pc setup. Which one is easier to use. Ed For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9591 (20140325) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Virtual Ribbon verses Microsoft Ribbons
Hi Jaws users, Is it easier to use the virtual ribbon in jaws as to just using the Microsoft ribbons? I would like opinions from all you Jaws users as to which way you have your pc setup. Which one is easier to use. Ed For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
