Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS
You folks can stop replying to Chris because unless somebody forwards him the message he is not going to get it at all. Like I said this thread is done, thank you. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: Kliph phantom3...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 1:33 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS That is your opinion, and everyone has one. But with my personal experience, the only screen reader that can come close to what jaws can do is voice over. JMO Kliphton Senior (face book) http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Family Blog) miller9nation.wordpress.com -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 6:10 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS Hello all. I will publicly state why I am refusing to use JAWS. It is Freedom Scientific's attitude towards pricing and their license schemes. Some of us can't or won't afford to buy JAWS, especially if the free one is just as good as JAWS. As for the license scheme, the user is punished to license JAWS on up to three machines. With the free and even other commercial screen readers one can install on as many computers as they have so long as one machine is used at a time, no questions asked. With JAWS, once all three authorizations have been used they would then have to request FS for more keys. Eventually and I will say eventually they will refuse flat and get paranoid about people sharing authorization keys. I understand piracy and all that and I certainly don't commit to any of that stuff however at the same time FS is just asking for money and not caring about the customer. True there is a dongle option, but even they can have their fair share of problems. Now for the technical, I do find the free one to be actually more stable and even works with more applications than JAWS. You may find this shocking but this is true according to my personal experience. Take care. -- Chris Hallsworth You can contact me at the following channels: E-mail and Facebook: challswor...@sky.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS
Hello all. I will publicly state why I am refusing to use JAWS. It is Freedom Scientific's attitude towards pricing and their license schemes. Some of us can't or won't afford to buy JAWS, especially if the free one is just as good as JAWS. As for the license scheme, the user is punished to license JAWS on up to three machines. With the free and even other commercial screen readers one can install on as many computers as they have so long as one machine is used at a time, no questions asked. With JAWS, once all three authorizations have been used they would then have to request FS for more keys. Eventually and I will say eventually they will refuse flat and get paranoid about people sharing authorization keys. I understand piracy and all that and I certainly don't commit to any of that stuff however at the same time FS is just asking for money and not caring about the customer. True there is a dongle option, but even they can have their fair share of problems. Now for the technical, I do find the free one to be actually more stable and even works with more applications than JAWS. You may find this shocking but this is true according to my personal experience. Take care. -- Chris Hallsworth You can contact me at the following channels: E-mail and Facebook: challswor...@sky.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS
That's it young man, if you don't leave on your own I will make it happen for you. The guidelines clearly state if you have a problem with Freedom Scientific take it up with them, this list is not the forum for bashing their products. I absolutely will not put up with such garbage at all. We have what we have to work with and that's how it goes. No answer or adaptive system is perfect but we need such programs in order to make our lives better and more productive. Either way that is the end of this conversation. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: chris hallsworth christopher...@googlemail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 7:09 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS Hello all. I will publicly state why I am refusing to use JAWS. It is Freedom Scientific's attitude towards pricing and their license schemes. Some of us can't or won't afford to buy JAWS, especially if the free one is just as good as JAWS. As for the license scheme, the user is punished to license JAWS on up to three machines. With the free and even other commercial screen readers one can install on as many computers as they have so long as one machine is used at a time, no questions asked. With JAWS, once all three authorizations have been used they would then have to request FS for more keys. Eventually and I will say eventually they will refuse flat and get paranoid about people sharing authorization keys. I understand piracy and all that and I certainly don't commit to any of that stuff however at the same time FS is just asking for money and not caring about the customer. True there is a dongle option, but even they can have their fair share of problems. Now for the technical, I do find the free one to be actually more stable and even works with more applications than JAWS. You may find this shocking but this is true according to my personal experience. Take care. -- Chris Hallsworth You can contact me at the following channels: E-mail and Facebook: challswor...@sky.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS
Chris I believe you are a very smart person with much to contribute. I often use your info for assistance. However, having said that David is correct. If you have a complaint contact FS and it's up to them to agree or disagree with your opinion. And, you or somebody correct me if I am wrong but isn't it true that you can only install a copy of Windows 7 on one machine? -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 8:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS That's it young man, if you don't leave on your own I will make it happen for you. The guidelines clearly state if you have a problem with Freedom Scientific take it up with them, this list is not the forum for bashing their products. I absolutely will not put up with such garbage at all. We have what we have to work with and that's how it goes. No answer or adaptive system is perfect but we need such programs in order to make our lives better and more productive. Either way that is the end of this conversation. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: chris hallsworth christopher...@googlemail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 7:09 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS Hello all. I will publicly state why I am refusing to use JAWS. It is Freedom Scientific's attitude towards pricing and their license schemes. Some of us can't or won't afford to buy JAWS, especially if the free one is just as good as JAWS. As for the license scheme, the user is punished to license JAWS on up to three machines. With the free and even other commercial screen readers one can install on as many computers as they have so long as one machine is used at a time, no questions asked. With JAWS, once all three authorizations have been used they would then have to request FS for more keys. Eventually and I will say eventually they will refuse flat and get paranoid about people sharing authorization keys. I understand piracy and all that and I certainly don't commit to any of that stuff however at the same time FS is just asking for money and not caring about the customer. True there is a dongle option, but even they can have their fair share of problems. Now for the technical, I do find the free one to be actually more stable and even works with more applications than JAWS. You may find this shocking but this is true according to my personal experience. Take care. -- Chris Hallsworth You can contact me at the following channels: E-mail and Facebook: challswor...@sky.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS
Obviously my point was not clearly made this morning so I will make it once again. This thread is absolutely shut down and the next person who posts a message under this subject line will receive the same as young Chris. I hate to be such a hard case but when people leave me no choice then that is the way it will be. He wanted to leave the list so to quote Arnold from the movie commando I let him go, and like the guy Arnold let go Chris won't be back either. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: lmorris1...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS Chris I believe you are a very smart person with much to contribute. I often use your info for assistance. However, having said that David is correct. If you have a complaint contact FS and it's up to them to agree or disagree with your opinion. And, you or somebody correct me if I am wrong but isn't it true that you can only install a copy of Windows 7 on one machine? -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 8:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS That's it young man, if you don't leave on your own I will make it happen for you. The guidelines clearly state if you have a problem with Freedom Scientific take it up with them, this list is not the forum for bashing their products. I absolutely will not put up with such garbage at all. We have what we have to work with and that's how it goes. No answer or adaptive system is perfect but we need such programs in order to make our lives better and more productive. Either way that is the end of this conversation. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: chris hallsworth christopher...@googlemail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 7:09 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS Hello all. I will publicly state why I am refusing to use JAWS. It is Freedom Scientific's attitude towards pricing and their license schemes. Some of us can't or won't afford to buy JAWS, especially if the free one is just as good as JAWS. As for the license scheme, the user is punished to license JAWS on up to three machines. With the free and even other commercial screen readers one can install on as many computers as they have so long as one machine is used at a time, no questions asked. With JAWS, once all three authorizations have been used they would then have to request FS for more keys. Eventually and I will say eventually they will refuse flat and get paranoid about people sharing authorization keys. I understand piracy and all that and I certainly don't commit to any of that stuff however at the same time FS is just asking for money and not caring about the customer. True there is a dongle option, but even they can have their fair share of problems. Now for the technical, I do find the free one to be actually more stable and even works with more applications than JAWS. You may find this shocking but this is true according to my personal experience. Take care. -- Chris Hallsworth You can contact me at the following channels: E-mail and Facebook: challswor...@sky.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS
david he wanted just to say his last word as if he just left surley people woudl ask where he was chat soon hannah Hannah Day E-mail and Facebook: hannahday2...@googlemail.com MSN hannahday1...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: hannah.day On 21/12/2010 21:30, David Ferrin wrote: Obviously my point was not clearly made this morning so I will make it once again. This thread is absolutely shut down and the next person who posts a message under this subject line will receive the same as young Chris. I hate to be such a hard case but when people leave me no choice then that is the way it will be. He wanted to leave the list so to quote Arnold from the movie commando I let him go, and like the guy Arnold let go Chris won't be back either. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: lmorris1...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS Chris I believe you are a very smart person with much to contribute. I often use your info for assistance. However, having said that David is correct. If you have a complaint contact FS and it's up to them to agree or disagree with your opinion. And, you or somebody correct me if I am wrong but isn't it true that you can only install a copy of Windows 7 on one machine? -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 8:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS That's it young man, if you don't leave on your own I will make it happen for you. The guidelines clearly state if you have a problem with Freedom Scientific take it up with them, this list is not the forum for bashing their products. I absolutely will not put up with such garbage at all. We have what we have to work with and that's how it goes. No answer or adaptive system is perfect but we need such programs in order to make our lives better and more productive. Either way that is the end of this conversation. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: chris hallsworth christopher...@googlemail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 7:09 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS Hello all. I will publicly state why I am refusing to use JAWS. It is Freedom Scientific's attitude towards pricing and their license schemes. Some of us can't or won't afford to buy JAWS, especially if the free one is just as good as JAWS. As for the license scheme, the user is punished to license JAWS on up to three machines. With the free and even other commercial screen readers one can install on as many computers as they have so long as one machine is used at a time, no questions asked. With JAWS, once all three authorizations have been used they would then have to request FS for more keys. Eventually and I will say eventually they will refuse flat and get paranoid about people sharing authorization keys. I understand piracy and all that and I certainly don't commit to any of that stuff however at the same time FS is just asking for money and not caring about the customer. True there is a dongle option, but even they can have their fair share of problems. Now for the technical, I do find the free one to be actually more stable and even works with more applications than JAWS. You may find this shocking but this is true according to my personal experience. Take care. -- Chris Hallsworth You can contact me at the following channels: E-mail and Facebook: challswor...@sky.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS
Growl. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: hannah day hannahday2...@googlemail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS david he wanted just to say his last word as if he just left surley people woudl ask where he was chat soon hannah Hannah Day E-mail and Facebook: hannahday2...@googlemail.com MSN hannahday1...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: hannah.day On 21/12/2010 21:30, David Ferrin wrote: Obviously my point was not clearly made this morning so I will make it once again. This thread is absolutely shut down and the next person who posts a message under this subject line will receive the same as young Chris. I hate to be such a hard case but when people leave me no choice then that is the way it will be. He wanted to leave the list so to quote Arnold from the movie commando I let him go, and like the guy Arnold let go Chris won't be back either. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: lmorris1...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS Chris I believe you are a very smart person with much to contribute. I often use your info for assistance. However, having said that David is correct. If you have a complaint contact FS and it's up to them to agree or disagree with your opinion. And, you or somebody correct me if I am wrong but isn't it true that you can only install a copy of Windows 7 on one machine? -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 8:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS That's it young man, if you don't leave on your own I will make it happen for you. The guidelines clearly state if you have a problem with Freedom Scientific take it up with them, this list is not the forum for bashing their products. I absolutely will not put up with such garbage at all. We have what we have to work with and that's how it goes. No answer or adaptive system is perfect but we need such programs in order to make our lives better and more productive. Either way that is the end of this conversation. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: chris hallsworth christopher...@googlemail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 7:09 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS Hello all. I will publicly state why I am refusing to use JAWS. It is Freedom Scientific's attitude towards pricing and their license schemes. Some of us can't or won't afford to buy JAWS, especially if the free one is just as good as JAWS. As for the license scheme, the user is punished to license JAWS on up to three machines. With the free and even other commercial screen readers one can install on as many computers as they have so long as one machine is used at a time, no questions asked. With JAWS, once all three authorizations have been used they would then have to request FS for more keys. Eventually and I will say eventually they will refuse flat and get paranoid about people sharing authorization keys. I understand piracy and all that and I certainly don't commit to any of that stuff however at the same time FS is just asking for money and not caring about the customer. True there is a dongle option, but even they can have their fair share of problems. Now for the technical, I do find the free one to be actually more stable and even works with more applications than JAWS. You may find this shocking but this is true according to my personal experience. Take care. -- Chris Hallsworth You can contact me at the following channels: E-mail and Facebook: challswor...@sky.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS
Chris i love your subject And no dongle in jaws 11 David ferin you will bann me if you wan't But i must write this No private person have money to buy jaws -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of hannah day Sent: den 21 december 2010 22:33 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS david he wanted just to say his last word as if he just left surley people woudl ask where he was chat soon hannah Hannah Day E-mail and Facebook: hannahday2...@googlemail.com MSN hannahday1...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: hannah.day On 21/12/2010 21:30, David Ferrin wrote: Obviously my point was not clearly made this morning so I will make it once again. This thread is absolutely shut down and the next person who posts a message under this subject line will receive the same as young Chris. I hate to be such a hard case but when people leave me no choice then that is the way it will be. He wanted to leave the list so to quote Arnold from the movie commando I let him go, and like the guy Arnold let go Chris won't be back either. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: lmorris1...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS Chris I believe you are a very smart person with much to contribute. I often use your info for assistance. However, having said that David is correct. If you have a complaint contact FS and it's up to them to agree or disagree with your opinion. And, you or somebody correct me if I am wrong but isn't it true that you can only install a copy of Windows 7 on one machine? -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 8:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS That's it young man, if you don't leave on your own I will make it happen for you. The guidelines clearly state if you have a problem with Freedom Scientific take it up with them, this list is not the forum for bashing their products. I absolutely will not put up with such garbage at all. We have what we have to work with and that's how it goes. No answer or adaptive system is perfect but we need such programs in order to make our lives better and more productive. Either way that is the end of this conversation. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: chris hallsworth christopher...@googlemail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 7:09 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS Hello all. I will publicly state why I am refusing to use JAWS. It is Freedom Scientific's attitude towards pricing and their license schemes. Some of us can't or won't afford to buy JAWS, especially if the free one is just as good as JAWS. As for the license scheme, the user is punished to license JAWS on up to three machines. With the free and even other commercial screen readers one can install on as many computers as they have so long as one machine is used at a time, no questions asked. With JAWS, once all three authorizations have been used they would then have to request FS for more keys. Eventually and I will say eventually they will refuse flat and get paranoid about people sharing authorization keys. I understand piracy and all that and I certainly don't commit to any of that stuff however at the same time FS is just asking for money and not caring about the customer. True there is a dongle option, but even they can have their fair share of problems. Now for the technical, I do find the free one to be actually more stable and even works with more applications than JAWS. You may find this shocking but this is true according to my personal experience. Take care. -- Chris Hallsworth You can contact me at the following channels: E-mail and Facebook: challswor...@sky.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS
i can totally agree . i dont' have any money to use on jaws upgrades chat soon hannah Hannah Day E-mail and Facebook: hannahday2...@googlemail.com MSN hannahday1...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: hannah.day On 21/12/2010 20:44, mattias wrote: Chris i love your subject And no dongle in jaws 11 David ferin you will bann me if you wan't But i must write this No private person have money to buy jaws -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of hannah day Sent: den 21 december 2010 22:33 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS david he wanted just to say his last word as if he just left surley people woudl ask where he was chat soon hannah Hannah Day E-mail and Facebook: hannahday2...@googlemail.com MSN hannahday1...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: hannah.day On 21/12/2010 21:30, David Ferrin wrote: Obviously my point was not clearly made this morning so I will make it once again. This thread is absolutely shut down and the next person who posts a message under this subject line will receive the same as young Chris. I hate to be such a hard case but when people leave me no choice then that is the way it will be. He wanted to leave the list so to quote Arnold from the movie commando I let him go, and like the guy Arnold let go Chris won't be back either. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From:lmorris1...@gmail.com To:jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS Chris I believe you are a very smart person with much to contribute. I often use your info for assistance. However, having said that David is correct. If you have a complaint contact FS and it's up to them to agree or disagree with your opinion. And, you or somebody correct me if I am wrong but isn't it true that you can only install a copy of Windows 7 on one machine? -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 8:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS That's it young man, if you don't leave on your own I will make it happen for you. The guidelines clearly state if you have a problem with Freedom Scientific take it up with them, this list is not the forum for bashing their products. I absolutely will not put up with such garbage at all. We have what we have to work with and that's how it goes. No answer or adaptive system is perfect but we need such programs in order to make our lives better and more productive. Either way that is the end of this conversation. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: chris hallsworth christopher...@googlemail.com To:jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 7:09 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS Hello all. I will publicly state why I am refusing to use JAWS. It is Freedom Scientific's attitude towards pricing and their license schemes. Some of us can't or won't afford to buy JAWS, especially if the free one is just as good as JAWS. As for the license scheme, the user is punished to license JAWS on up to three machines. With the free and even other commercial screen readers one can install on as many computers as they have so long as one machine is used at a time, no questions asked. With JAWS, once all three authorizations have been used they would then have to request FS for more keys. Eventually and I will say eventually they will refuse flat and get paranoid about people sharing authorization keys. I understand piracy and all that and I certainly don't commit to any of that stuff however at the same time FS is just asking for money and not caring about the customer. True there is a dongle option, but even they can have their fair share of problems. Now for the technical, I do find the free one to be actually more stable and even works with more applications than JAWS. You may find this shocking but this is true according to my personal experience. Take care. -- Chris Hallsworth You can contact me at the following channels: E-mail and Facebook: challswor...@sky.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS
Ask and you shall receive. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: mattias m...@mjw.se To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS Chris i love your subject And no dongle in jaws 11 David ferin you will bann me if you wan't But i must write this No private person have money to buy jaws -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of hannah day Sent: den 21 december 2010 22:33 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS david he wanted just to say his last word as if he just left surley people woudl ask where he was chat soon hannah Hannah Day E-mail and Facebook: hannahday2...@googlemail.com MSN hannahday1...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: hannah.day On 21/12/2010 21:30, David Ferrin wrote: Obviously my point was not clearly made this morning so I will make it once again. This thread is absolutely shut down and the next person who posts a message under this subject line will receive the same as young Chris. I hate to be such a hard case but when people leave me no choice then that is the way it will be. He wanted to leave the list so to quote Arnold from the movie commando I let him go, and like the guy Arnold let go Chris won't be back either. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: lmorris1...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS Chris I believe you are a very smart person with much to contribute. I often use your info for assistance. However, having said that David is correct. If you have a complaint contact FS and it's up to them to agree or disagree with your opinion. And, you or somebody correct me if I am wrong but isn't it true that you can only install a copy of Windows 7 on one machine? -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 8:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS That's it young man, if you don't leave on your own I will make it happen for you. The guidelines clearly state if you have a problem with Freedom Scientific take it up with them, this list is not the forum for bashing their products. I absolutely will not put up with such garbage at all. We have what we have to work with and that's how it goes. No answer or adaptive system is perfect but we need such programs in order to make our lives better and more productive. Either way that is the end of this conversation. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: chris hallsworth christopher...@googlemail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 7:09 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS Hello all. I will publicly state why I am refusing to use JAWS. It is Freedom Scientific's attitude towards pricing and their license schemes. Some of us can't or won't afford to buy JAWS, especially if the free one is just as good as JAWS. As for the license scheme, the user is punished to license JAWS on up to three machines. With the free and even other commercial screen readers one can install on as many computers as they have so long as one machine is used at a time, no questions asked. With JAWS, once all three authorizations have been used they would then have to request FS for more keys. Eventually and I will say eventually they will refuse flat and get paranoid about people sharing authorization keys. I understand piracy and all that and I certainly don't commit to any of that stuff however at the same time FS is just asking for money and not caring about the customer. True there is a dongle option, but even they can have their fair share of problems. Now for the technical, I do find the free one to be actually more stable and even works with more applications than JAWS. You may find this shocking but this is true according to my personal experience. Take care. -- Chris Hallsworth You can contact me at the following channels: E-mail and Facebook: challswor...@sky.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS
Same here -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of hannah day Sent: den 21 december 2010 22:46 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS i can totally agree . i dont' have any money to use on jaws upgrades chat soon hannah Hannah Day E-mail and Facebook: hannahday2...@googlemail.com MSN hannahday1...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: hannah.day On 21/12/2010 20:44, mattias wrote: Chris i love your subject And no dongle in jaws 11 David ferin you will bann me if you wan't But i must write this No private person have money to buy jaws -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of hannah day Sent: den 21 december 2010 22:33 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS david he wanted just to say his last word as if he just left surley people woudl ask where he was chat soon hannah Hannah Day E-mail and Facebook: hannahday2...@googlemail.com MSN hannahday1...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: hannah.day On 21/12/2010 21:30, David Ferrin wrote: Obviously my point was not clearly made this morning so I will make it once again. This thread is absolutely shut down and the next person who posts a message under this subject line will receive the same as young Chris. I hate to be such a hard case but when people leave me no choice then that is the way it will be. He wanted to leave the list so to quote Arnold from the movie commando I let him go, and like the guy Arnold let go Chris won't be back either. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From:lmorris1...@gmail.com To:jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS Chris I believe you are a very smart person with much to contribute. I often use your info for assistance. However, having said that David is correct. If you have a complaint contact FS and it's up to them to agree or disagree with your opinion. And, you or somebody correct me if I am wrong but isn't it true that you can only install a copy of Windows 7 on one machine? -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 8:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS That's it young man, if you don't leave on your own I will make it happen for you. The guidelines clearly state if you have a problem with Freedom Scientific take it up with them, this list is not the forum for bashing their products. I absolutely will not put up with such garbage at all. We have what we have to work with and that's how it goes. No answer or adaptive system is perfect but we need such programs in order to make our lives better and more productive. Either way that is the end of this conversation. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: chris hallsworth christopher...@googlemail.com To:jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 7:09 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS Hello all. I will publicly state why I am refusing to use JAWS. It is Freedom Scientific's attitude towards pricing and their license schemes. Some of us can't or won't afford to buy JAWS, especially if the free one is just as good as JAWS. As for the license scheme, the user is punished to license JAWS on up to three machines. With the free and even other commercial screen readers one can install on as many computers as they have so long as one machine is used at a time, no questions asked. With JAWS, once all three authorizations have been used they would then have to request FS for more keys. Eventually and I will say eventually they will refuse flat and get paranoid about people sharing authorization keys. I understand piracy and all that and I certainly don't commit to any of that stuff however at the same time FS is just asking for money and not caring about the customer. True there is a dongle option, but even they can have their fair share of problems. Now for the technical, I do find the free one to be actually more stable and even works with more applications than JAWS. You may find this shocking but this is true according to my personal experience. Take care. -- Chris Hallsworth You can contact me at the following channels: E-mail and Facebook: challswor...@sky.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws
Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS
can see they don't make any more versions if people can't aford it cha soon hannah Hannah Day E-mail and Facebook: hannahday2...@googlemail.com MSN hannahday1...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: hannah.day On 21/12/2010 20:47, mattias wrote: Same here -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of hannah day Sent: den 21 december 2010 22:46 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS i can totally agree . i dont' have any money to use on jaws upgrades chat soon hannah Hannah Day E-mail and Facebook: hannahday2...@googlemail.com MSN hannahday1...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: hannah.day On 21/12/2010 20:44, mattias wrote: Chris i love your subject And no dongle in jaws 11 David ferin you will bann me if you wan't But i must write this No private person have money to buy jaws -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of hannah day Sent: den 21 december 2010 22:33 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS david he wanted just to say his last word as if he just left surley people woudl ask where he was chat soon hannah Hannah Day E-mail and Facebook: hannahday2...@googlemail.com MSN hannahday1...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: hannah.day On 21/12/2010 21:30, David Ferrin wrote: Obviously my point was not clearly made this morning so I will make it once again. This thread is absolutely shut down and the next person who posts a message under this subject line will receive the same as young Chris. I hate to be such a hard case but when people leave me no choice then that is the way it will be. He wanted to leave the list so to quote Arnold from the movie commando I let him go, and like the guy Arnold let go Chris won't be back either. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From:lmorris1...@gmail.com To:jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS Chris I believe you are a very smart person with much to contribute. I often use your info for assistance. However, having said that David is correct. If you have a complaint contact FS and it's up to them to agree or disagree with your opinion. And, you or somebody correct me if I am wrong but isn't it true that you can only install a copy of Windows 7 on one machine? -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 8:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS That's it young man, if you don't leave on your own I will make it happen for you. The guidelines clearly state if you have a problem with Freedom Scientific take it up with them, this list is not the forum for bashing their products. I absolutely will not put up with such garbage at all. We have what we have to work with and that's how it goes. No answer or adaptive system is perfect but we need such programs in order to make our lives better and more productive. Either way that is the end of this conversation. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: chris hallsworth christopher...@googlemail.com To:jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 7:09 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS Hello all. I will publicly state why I am refusing to use JAWS. It is Freedom Scientific's attitude towards pricing and their license schemes. Some of us can't or won't afford to buy JAWS, especially if the free one is just as good as JAWS. As for the license scheme, the user is punished to license JAWS on up to three machines. With the free and even other commercial screen readers one can install on as many computers as they have so long as one machine is used at a time, no questions asked. With JAWS, once all three authorizations have been used they would then have to request FS for more keys. Eventually and I will say eventually they will refuse flat and get paranoid about people sharing authorization keys. I understand piracy and all that and I certainly don't commit to any of that stuff however at the same time FS is just asking for money and not caring about the customer. True there is a dongle option, but even they can have their fair share of problems. Now for the technical, I do find the free one to be actually more stable and even works with more applications than JAWS. You may find this shocking but this is true according to my personal experience. Take care. -- Chris Hallsworth You can contact me at the following channels: E-mail and Facebook: challswor...@sky.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Twitter: http
Re: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS
That is your opinion, and everyone has one. But with my personal experience, the only screen reader that can come close to what jaws can do is voice over. JMO Kliphton Senior (face book) http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Family Blog) miller9nation.wordpress.com -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 6:10 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Why I am not going to use JAWS Hello all. I will publicly state why I am refusing to use JAWS. It is Freedom Scientific's attitude towards pricing and their license schemes. Some of us can't or won't afford to buy JAWS, especially if the free one is just as good as JAWS. As for the license scheme, the user is punished to license JAWS on up to three machines. With the free and even other commercial screen readers one can install on as many computers as they have so long as one machine is used at a time, no questions asked. With JAWS, once all three authorizations have been used they would then have to request FS for more keys. Eventually and I will say eventually they will refuse flat and get paranoid about people sharing authorization keys. I understand piracy and all that and I certainly don't commit to any of that stuff however at the same time FS is just asking for money and not caring about the customer. True there is a dongle option, but even they can have their fair share of problems. Now for the technical, I do find the free one to be actually more stable and even works with more applications than JAWS. You may find this shocking but this is true according to my personal experience. Take care. -- Chris Hallsworth You can contact me at the following channels: E-mail and Facebook: challswor...@sky.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
