Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10
That is an open ended question as it will depend on your hardware spec and installed software and startup services etc. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins Sent: 29 December 2015 19:11 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 What is the difference in a cold boot time with it enabled versus disabled? Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Merv Keck Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 12:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 There is a tremendous advantage for some people to having quick start turned off. This is a matter of opinion. Not a matter of fact. It depends on your personal preference and how your machine performs. Personally, I prefer to have quick start turned off and recommend it for all of my students. It works better when Win 10 and jaws 17 needs to be rebooted according to my opinion. That is why it is a check box and an option. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 10:07 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Hi Robin, Again, there is no advantage to turning quick start off. This is a benefit of using w-10. For all practical purposes your computer is shut down, when choosing shut down. I have done this from the beginning every day when I am done using the computer, I use shut down. In the morning I just press the power button, in about 10 seconds or less, my computer comes on with Jaws talking. I then press the 4 digit pin, in a few seconds I am on the desktop. So, I don't understand all the fuss about turning it off. I am a big security minded person. So, anything beyond my anti-virus, that helps protect my computer is welcome. Good luck, just my opinion. Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed reaching His goal. Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with good health. Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually balanced with wealth. Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where God sits. Jim -Original Message- From: Robin Frost Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:14 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Hi, Forgive me for jumping in on this thread but Kevin's instructions say you have to turn off requiring a password to disable this. I didn't think you needed to do that. can someone clarify as I wouldn't want to disseminate erroneous information but I truly didn't remember having to have done that as I'm still logging into windows with a pin and my machines are still set to require one but I did disable fast startup myself. thanks bunches for clarifying. Robin -Original Message- From: David Moore Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 8:56 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Hi Al, One reason is because if you are running a program in demo version, the quick start will not set the timer back so you can use for another 40 minutes. Another reason, is the quick start is why people are not hearing a sound when they shut their computer off or turn it back on. Also, the quick start does not shut the computer totally down, so it is not the same as a complete shut down. I do not like the quick start for all of these reasons. Have a great one, Al. -Original Message- From: Alan Robbins Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 7:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Kevin, Why would someone want to disable this feature? Best, Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:21 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 forgot to change subject line press win key+x from the context menu arrow to power options press enter tab to require a password on startup then press enter tab to change settings that are currently unavailable press enter tab to require a password this menu are radio buttons arrow down to don't require a password tab to enable quick start this is a check box and it is checked by default press spacebar to uncheck tab to ok tab to save changes -Original Message- From: Singing Sparrow Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:08 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Could you please tell us how to disable the windows 10 quick start? On 12/23/2015 2:27 PM, Kevin wrote: > with windows
Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10
Hi, Yes you do get the sound. That is another reason why it is great to uncheck that quick start. Have a great one. -Original Message- From: Alan Robbins Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 2:26 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Marv, Thanks, I'll try both ways. With it disabled, my guess is you get the boot up sound same as if you select restart? Best, Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Merv Keck Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 2:22 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 For my two machines there is about one second difference on the SSD boot drive on the machine running 16 GB Ram and an SSD boot drive. There is about a ten second difference on the 8 GB machine with a 5400 RPM boot drive. The only time quick start comes into play for me is when I am having issues with Jaws or office or windows itself. Sometimes I need to reboot and the reboot does not work as it should because of the fast start being enabled. There are times when you will find that you need to restart and having this option enabled will complicate whatever you are troubleshooting. Sometimes you just need a clean reboot. I actually have more issues with starting up while having a pair of large external drives connected slowing down my restart or cold startup than having this option enabled or disabled. Because I have the option to scan external drives enabled in my antivirus application, it will sometimes slow down my startup or restart. If I unplug everything from the machine before starting or restarting I can be up and running in seconds no matter if the option is checked or not checked. But if I need to troubleshoot or install something I personally want that option to not be checked. Just my own personal preference. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 2:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 What is the difference in a cold boot time with it enabled versus disabled? Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Merv Keck Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 12:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 There is a tremendous advantage for some people to having quick start turned off. This is a matter of opinion. Not a matter of fact. It depends on your personal preference and how your machine performs. Personally, I prefer to have quick start turned off and recommend it for all of my students. It works better when Win 10 and jaws 17 needs to be rebooted according to my opinion. That is why it is a check box and an option. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 10:07 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Hi Robin, Again, there is no advantage to turning quick start off. This is a benefit of using w-10. For all practical purposes your computer is shut down, when choosing shut down. I have done this from the beginning every day when I am done using the computer, I use shut down. In the morning I just press the power button, in about 10 seconds or less, my computer comes on with Jaws talking. I then press the 4 digit pin, in a few seconds I am on the desktop. So, I don't understand all the fuss about turning it off. I am a big security minded person. So, anything beyond my anti-virus, that helps protect my computer is welcome. Good luck, just my opinion. Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed reaching His goal. Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with good health. Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually balanced with wealth. Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where God sits. Jim -Original Message- From: Robin Frost Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:14 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Hi, Forgive me for jumping in on this thread but Kevin's instructions say you have to turn off requiring a password to disable this. I didn't think you needed to do that. can someone clarify as I wouldn't want to disseminate erroneous information but I truly didn't remember having to have done that as I'm still logging into windows with a pin and my machines are still set to require one but I did disable fast startup myself. thanks bunches for clarifying. Robin -Original Message- From: David Moore Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 8:56 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10
Hi, there isn't that much difference in the boot time. It is just a minute longer. It is worth having to wait another minute and have the computer completely shut down and start like it use to. Have a great one. -Original Message- From: Alan Robbins Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 2:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 What is the difference in a cold boot time with it enabled versus disabled? Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Merv Keck Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 12:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 There is a tremendous advantage for some people to having quick start turned off. This is a matter of opinion. Not a matter of fact. It depends on your personal preference and how your machine performs. Personally, I prefer to have quick start turned off and recommend it for all of my students. It works better when Win 10 and jaws 17 needs to be rebooted according to my opinion. That is why it is a check box and an option. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 10:07 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Hi Robin, Again, there is no advantage to turning quick start off. This is a benefit of using w-10. For all practical purposes your computer is shut down, when choosing shut down. I have done this from the beginning every day when I am done using the computer, I use shut down. In the morning I just press the power button, in about 10 seconds or less, my computer comes on with Jaws talking. I then press the 4 digit pin, in a few seconds I am on the desktop. So, I don't understand all the fuss about turning it off. I am a big security minded person. So, anything beyond my anti-virus, that helps protect my computer is welcome. Good luck, just my opinion. Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed reaching His goal. Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with good health. Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually balanced with wealth. Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where God sits. Jim -Original Message- From: Robin Frost Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:14 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Hi, Forgive me for jumping in on this thread but Kevin's instructions say you have to turn off requiring a password to disable this. I didn't think you needed to do that. can someone clarify as I wouldn't want to disseminate erroneous information but I truly didn't remember having to have done that as I'm still logging into windows with a pin and my machines are still set to require one but I did disable fast startup myself. thanks bunches for clarifying. Robin -Original Message- From: David Moore Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 8:56 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Hi Al, One reason is because if you are running a program in demo version, the quick start will not set the timer back so you can use for another 40 minutes. Another reason, is the quick start is why people are not hearing a sound when they shut their computer off or turn it back on. Also, the quick start does not shut the computer totally down, so it is not the same as a complete shut down. I do not like the quick start for all of these reasons. Have a great one, Al. -Original Message- From: Alan Robbins Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 7:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Kevin, Why would someone want to disable this feature? Best, Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:21 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 forgot to change subject line press win key+x from the context menu arrow to power options press enter tab to require a password on startup then press enter tab to change settings that are currently unavailable press enter tab to require a password this menu are radio buttons arrow down to don't require a password tab to enable quick start this is a check box and it is checked by default press spacebar to uncheck tab to ok tab to save changes -Original Message- From: Singing Sparrow Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:08 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Could you please tell us how to disable the windows 10 quick start? On 12/23/2015 2:27 PM, Kevin wrote: with windows 10
Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10
There is a tremendous advantage for some people to having quick start turned off. This is a matter of opinion. Not a matter of fact. It depends on your personal preference and how your machine performs. Personally, I prefer to have quick start turned off and recommend it for all of my students. It works better when Win 10 and jaws 17 needs to be rebooted according to my opinion. That is why it is a check box and an option. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 10:07 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Hi Robin, Again, there is no advantage to turning quick start off. This is a benefit of using w-10. For all practical purposes your computer is shut down, when choosing shut down. I have done this from the beginning every day when I am done using the computer, I use shut down. In the morning I just press the power button, in about 10 seconds or less, my computer comes on with Jaws talking. I then press the 4 digit pin, in a few seconds I am on the desktop. So, I don't understand all the fuss about turning it off. I am a big security minded person. So, anything beyond my anti-virus, that helps protect my computer is welcome. Good luck, just my opinion. Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed reaching His goal. Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with good health. Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually balanced with wealth. Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where God sits. Jim -Original Message- From: Robin Frost Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:14 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Hi, Forgive me for jumping in on this thread but Kevin's instructions say you have to turn off requiring a password to disable this. I didn't think you needed to do that. can someone clarify as I wouldn't want to disseminate erroneous information but I truly didn't remember having to have done that as I'm still logging into windows with a pin and my machines are still set to require one but I did disable fast startup myself. thanks bunches for clarifying. Robin -Original Message- From: David Moore Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 8:56 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Hi Al, One reason is because if you are running a program in demo version, the quick start will not set the timer back so you can use for another 40 minutes. Another reason, is the quick start is why people are not hearing a sound when they shut their computer off or turn it back on. Also, the quick start does not shut the computer totally down, so it is not the same as a complete shut down. I do not like the quick start for all of these reasons. Have a great one, Al. -Original Message- From: Alan Robbins Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 7:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Kevin, Why would someone want to disable this feature? Best, Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:21 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 forgot to change subject line press win key+x from the context menu arrow to power options press enter tab to require a password on startup then press enter tab to change settings that are currently unavailable press enter tab to require a password this menu are radio buttons arrow down to don't require a password tab to enable quick start this is a check box and it is checked by default press spacebar to uncheck tab to ok tab to save changes -Original Message- From: Singing Sparrow Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:08 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Could you please tell us how to disable the windows 10 quick start? On 12/23/2015 2:27 PM, Kevin wrote: > with windows 10 you never start the computer from a cold start. the > computer is in hibernation mode which enables the quick start. when > quick starting the computer some drivers don't get loaded hence the > startup sound does not play. this is why when you run jaws in 40 > minute mode then shut down and the next time you start the computer > jaws announces in order to use jaws in 40 minute mode again you must > restart your computer. > there is a way to disable the windows 10 quick start but I will not > include this unless someone asks! > > -Original Message- From: Pinky > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 11:36 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W
Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10
Hi sir, I wasn't advocating for or against it one way or another. I've run with it enabled and disabled at different times. I don't have a horse in this race (smile). I was just trying to clarify the point as one of the earlier posters made it seem as though one needed to turn off the use a password option in the mix with all of this and I didn't think that was correct. pardon my paraphrase of its actual control name. I wrote this on the fly and didn't stop long enough to get the exact wording. I hope that makes more sense. Sorry for furthering confusion on the matter. Robin -Original Message- From: jim Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 10:06 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Hi Robin, Again, there is no advantage to turning quick start off. This is a benefit of using w-10. For all practical purposes your computer is shut down, when choosing shut down. I have done this from the beginning every day when I am done using the computer, I use shut down. In the morning I just press the power button, in about 10 seconds or less, my computer comes on with Jaws talking. I then press the 4 digit pin, in a few seconds I am on the desktop. So, I don't understand all the fuss about turning it off. I am a big security minded person. So, anything beyond my anti-virus, that helps protect my computer is welcome. Good luck, just my opinion. Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed reaching His goal. Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with good health. Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually balanced with wealth. Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where God sits. Jim -Original Message- From: Robin Frost Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:14 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Hi, Forgive me for jumping in on this thread but Kevin's instructions say you have to turn off requiring a password to disable this. I didn't think you needed to do that. can someone clarify as I wouldn't want to disseminate erroneous information but I truly didn't remember having to have done that as I'm still logging into windows with a pin and my machines are still set to require one but I did disable fast startup myself. thanks bunches for clarifying. Robin -Original Message- From: David Moore Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 8:56 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Hi Al, One reason is because if you are running a program in demo version, the quick start will not set the timer back so you can use for another 40 minutes. Another reason, is the quick start is why people are not hearing a sound when they shut their computer off or turn it back on. Also, the quick start does not shut the computer totally down, so it is not the same as a complete shut down. I do not like the quick start for all of these reasons. Have a great one, Al. -Original Message- From: Alan Robbins Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 7:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Kevin, Why would someone want to disable this feature? Best, Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:21 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 forgot to change subject line press win key+x from the context menu arrow to power options press enter tab to require a password on startup then press enter tab to change settings that are currently unavailable press enter tab to require a password this menu are radio buttons arrow down to don't require a password tab to enable quick start this is a check box and it is checked by default press spacebar to uncheck tab to ok tab to save changes -Original Message- From: Singing Sparrow Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:08 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Could you please tell us how to disable the windows 10 quick start? On 12/23/2015 2:27 PM, Kevin wrote: with windows 10 you never start the computer from a cold start. the computer is in hibernation mode which enables the quick start. when quick starting the computer some drivers don't get loaded hence the startup sound does not play. this is why when you run jaws in 40 minute mode then shut down and the next time you start the computer jaws announces in order to use jaws in 40 minute mode again you must restart your computer. there is a way to disable the windows 10 quick start but I will not include this unless someone asks! -Original Message- From: Pinky Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 11:36 AM To: jaws-users-list@
Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10
What is the difference in a cold boot time with it enabled versus disabled? Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Merv Keck Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 12:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 There is a tremendous advantage for some people to having quick start turned off. This is a matter of opinion. Not a matter of fact. It depends on your personal preference and how your machine performs. Personally, I prefer to have quick start turned off and recommend it for all of my students. It works better when Win 10 and jaws 17 needs to be rebooted according to my opinion. That is why it is a check box and an option. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 10:07 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Hi Robin, Again, there is no advantage to turning quick start off. This is a benefit of using w-10. For all practical purposes your computer is shut down, when choosing shut down. I have done this from the beginning every day when I am done using the computer, I use shut down. In the morning I just press the power button, in about 10 seconds or less, my computer comes on with Jaws talking. I then press the 4 digit pin, in a few seconds I am on the desktop. So, I don't understand all the fuss about turning it off. I am a big security minded person. So, anything beyond my anti-virus, that helps protect my computer is welcome. Good luck, just my opinion. Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed reaching His goal. Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with good health. Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually balanced with wealth. Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where God sits. Jim -Original Message- From: Robin Frost Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:14 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Hi, Forgive me for jumping in on this thread but Kevin's instructions say you have to turn off requiring a password to disable this. I didn't think you needed to do that. can someone clarify as I wouldn't want to disseminate erroneous information but I truly didn't remember having to have done that as I'm still logging into windows with a pin and my machines are still set to require one but I did disable fast startup myself. thanks bunches for clarifying. Robin -Original Message- From: David Moore Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 8:56 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Hi Al, One reason is because if you are running a program in demo version, the quick start will not set the timer back so you can use for another 40 minutes. Another reason, is the quick start is why people are not hearing a sound when they shut their computer off or turn it back on. Also, the quick start does not shut the computer totally down, so it is not the same as a complete shut down. I do not like the quick start for all of these reasons. Have a great one, Al. -Original Message- From: Alan Robbins Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 7:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Kevin, Why would someone want to disable this feature? Best, Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:21 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 forgot to change subject line press win key+x from the context menu arrow to power options press enter tab to require a password on startup then press enter tab to change settings that are currently unavailable press enter tab to require a password this menu are radio buttons arrow down to don't require a password tab to enable quick start this is a check box and it is checked by default press spacebar to uncheck tab to ok tab to save changes -Original Message- From: Singing Sparrow Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:08 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Could you please tell us how to disable the windows 10 quick start? On 12/23/2015 2:27 PM, Kevin wrote: > with windows 10 you never start the computer from a cold start. the > computer is in hibernation mode which enables the quick start. when > quick starting the computer some drivers don't get loaded hence the > startup sound does not play. this is why when you run jaws in 40 > minute mode then shut down and the next time you start the computer > jaws announces in order to use jaws in 40 minu
Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10
For my two machines there is about one second difference on the SSD boot drive on the machine running 16 GB Ram and an SSD boot drive. There is about a ten second difference on the 8 GB machine with a 5400 RPM boot drive. The only time quick start comes into play for me is when I am having issues with Jaws or office or windows itself. Sometimes I need to reboot and the reboot does not work as it should because of the fast start being enabled. There are times when you will find that you need to restart and having this option enabled will complicate whatever you are troubleshooting. Sometimes you just need a clean reboot. I actually have more issues with starting up while having a pair of large external drives connected slowing down my restart or cold startup than having this option enabled or disabled. Because I have the option to scan external drives enabled in my antivirus application, it will sometimes slow down my startup or restart. If I unplug everything from the machine before starting or restarting I can be up and running in seconds no matter if the option is checked or not checked. But if I need to troubleshoot or install something I personally want that option to not be checked. Just my own personal preference. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 2:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 What is the difference in a cold boot time with it enabled versus disabled? Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Merv Keck Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 12:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 There is a tremendous advantage for some people to having quick start turned off. This is a matter of opinion. Not a matter of fact. It depends on your personal preference and how your machine performs. Personally, I prefer to have quick start turned off and recommend it for all of my students. It works better when Win 10 and jaws 17 needs to be rebooted according to my opinion. That is why it is a check box and an option. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 10:07 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Hi Robin, Again, there is no advantage to turning quick start off. This is a benefit of using w-10. For all practical purposes your computer is shut down, when choosing shut down. I have done this from the beginning every day when I am done using the computer, I use shut down. In the morning I just press the power button, in about 10 seconds or less, my computer comes on with Jaws talking. I then press the 4 digit pin, in a few seconds I am on the desktop. So, I don't understand all the fuss about turning it off. I am a big security minded person. So, anything beyond my anti-virus, that helps protect my computer is welcome. Good luck, just my opinion. Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed reaching His goal. Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with good health. Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually balanced with wealth. Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where God sits. Jim -Original Message- From: Robin Frost Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:14 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Hi, Forgive me for jumping in on this thread but Kevin's instructions say you have to turn off requiring a password to disable this. I didn't think you needed to do that. can someone clarify as I wouldn't want to disseminate erroneous information but I truly didn't remember having to have done that as I'm still logging into windows with a pin and my machines are still set to require one but I did disable fast startup myself. thanks bunches for clarifying. Robin -Original Message- From: David Moore Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 8:56 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Hi Al, One reason is because if you are running a program in demo version, the quick start will not set the timer back so you can use for another 40 minutes. Another reason, is the quick start is why people are not hearing a sound when they shut their computer off or turn it back on. Also, the quick start does not shut the computer totally down, so it is not the same as a complete shut down. I do not like the quick start for all of these reasons. Have a great one, Al. -Original Message- From: Alan Robbins Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 7:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick
Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10
Marv, Thanks, I'll try both ways. With it disabled, my guess is you get the boot up sound same as if you select restart? Best, Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Merv Keck Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 2:22 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 For my two machines there is about one second difference on the SSD boot drive on the machine running 16 GB Ram and an SSD boot drive. There is about a ten second difference on the 8 GB machine with a 5400 RPM boot drive. The only time quick start comes into play for me is when I am having issues with Jaws or office or windows itself. Sometimes I need to reboot and the reboot does not work as it should because of the fast start being enabled. There are times when you will find that you need to restart and having this option enabled will complicate whatever you are troubleshooting. Sometimes you just need a clean reboot. I actually have more issues with starting up while having a pair of large external drives connected slowing down my restart or cold startup than having this option enabled or disabled. Because I have the option to scan external drives enabled in my antivirus application, it will sometimes slow down my startup or restart. If I unplug everything from the machine before starting or restarting I can be up and running in seconds no matter if the option is checked or not checked. But if I need to troubleshoot or install something I personally want that option to not be checked. Just my own personal preference. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 2:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 What is the difference in a cold boot time with it enabled versus disabled? Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Merv Keck Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 12:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 There is a tremendous advantage for some people to having quick start turned off. This is a matter of opinion. Not a matter of fact. It depends on your personal preference and how your machine performs. Personally, I prefer to have quick start turned off and recommend it for all of my students. It works better when Win 10 and jaws 17 needs to be rebooted according to my opinion. That is why it is a check box and an option. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 10:07 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Hi Robin, Again, there is no advantage to turning quick start off. This is a benefit of using w-10. For all practical purposes your computer is shut down, when choosing shut down. I have done this from the beginning every day when I am done using the computer, I use shut down. In the morning I just press the power button, in about 10 seconds or less, my computer comes on with Jaws talking. I then press the 4 digit pin, in a few seconds I am on the desktop. So, I don't understand all the fuss about turning it off. I am a big security minded person. So, anything beyond my anti-virus, that helps protect my computer is welcome. Good luck, just my opinion. Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed reaching His goal. Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with good health. Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually balanced with wealth. Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where God sits. Jim -Original Message- From: Robin Frost Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:14 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Hi, Forgive me for jumping in on this thread but Kevin's instructions say you have to turn off requiring a password to disable this. I didn't think you needed to do that. can someone clarify as I wouldn't want to disseminate erroneous information but I truly didn't remember having to have done that as I'm still logging into windows with a pin and my machines are still set to require one but I did disable fast startup myself. thanks bunches for clarifying. Robin -Original Message- From: David Moore Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 8:56 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Hi Al, One reason is because if you are running a program in demo version, the quick start will not set the timer back so you can use for another 40 minutes. Another reason, is the quick start is why people are not hearing a sound when they shut
Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10
Yes if you have the sounds enabled you do. I have been tweaking my sounds because I liked my windows seven sounds better and have been substituting my Windows 7 sounds for the windows 10 sounds and am planning to create some custom themes since Windows 10 has a few more sounds than Windows 7 did. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 2:26 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Marv, Thanks, I'll try both ways. With it disabled, my guess is you get the boot up sound same as if you select restart? Best, Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Merv Keck Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 2:22 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 For my two machines there is about one second difference on the SSD boot drive on the machine running 16 GB Ram and an SSD boot drive. There is about a ten second difference on the 8 GB machine with a 5400 RPM boot drive. The only time quick start comes into play for me is when I am having issues with Jaws or office or windows itself. Sometimes I need to reboot and the reboot does not work as it should because of the fast start being enabled. There are times when you will find that you need to restart and having this option enabled will complicate whatever you are troubleshooting. Sometimes you just need a clean reboot. I actually have more issues with starting up while having a pair of large external drives connected slowing down my restart or cold startup than having this option enabled or disabled. Because I have the option to scan external drives enabled in my antivirus application, it will sometimes slow down my startup or restart. If I unplug everything from the machine before starting or restarting I can be up and running in seconds no matter if the option is checked or not checked. But if I need to troubleshoot or install something I personally want that option to not be checked. Just my own personal preference. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 2:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 What is the difference in a cold boot time with it enabled versus disabled? Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Merv Keck Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 12:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 There is a tremendous advantage for some people to having quick start turned off. This is a matter of opinion. Not a matter of fact. It depends on your personal preference and how your machine performs. Personally, I prefer to have quick start turned off and recommend it for all of my students. It works better when Win 10 and jaws 17 needs to be rebooted according to my opinion. That is why it is a check box and an option. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 10:07 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Hi Robin, Again, there is no advantage to turning quick start off. This is a benefit of using w-10. For all practical purposes your computer is shut down, when choosing shut down. I have done this from the beginning every day when I am done using the computer, I use shut down. In the morning I just press the power button, in about 10 seconds or less, my computer comes on with Jaws talking. I then press the 4 digit pin, in a few seconds I am on the desktop. So, I don't understand all the fuss about turning it off. I am a big security minded person. So, anything beyond my anti-virus, that helps protect my computer is welcome. Good luck, just my opinion. Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed reaching His goal. Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with good health. Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually balanced with wealth. Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where God sits. Jim -Original Message- From: Robin Frost Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:14 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Hi, Forgive me for jumping in on this thread but Kevin's instructions say you have to turn off requiring a password to disable this. I didn't think you needed to do that. can someone clarify as I wouldn't want to disseminate erroneous information but I truly didn't remember having to have done that as I'm still logging into windows
Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10
There is no trouble with using quick start in w-10. Quick start works fantastic with Jaws, I have been using it from the beginning. Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed reaching His goal. Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with good health. Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually balanced with wealth. Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where God sits. Jim -Original Message- From: Kevin Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 8:55 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 I don't know about that! -Original Message- From: Mario Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 4:50 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 I don't have windows 10, but from most of the posts/replies I've read, it appears to be equated to the hybernation mode which, correct me if I'm wrong, was a troublesome mode for JAWS users. On 12/28/2015 7:01 PM, Alan Robbins wrote: Kevin, Why would someone want to disable this feature? Best, Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:21 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 forgot to change subject line press win key+x from the context menu arrow to power options press enter tab torequire a password on startup then press enter tab to change settings that are currently unavailable press enter tab to require a password this menu are radio buttons arrow down to don't require a password tab to enable quick start this is a check box and it is checked by default press spacebar to uncheck tab to ok tab to save changes -Original Message- From: Singing Sparrow Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:08 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Could you please tell us how to disable the windows 10 quick start? On 12/23/2015 2:27 PM, Kevin wrote: with windows 10 you never start the computer from a cold start. the computer is in hibernation mode which enables the quick start. when quick starting the computer some drivers don't get loaded hence the startup sound does not play. this is why when you run jaws in 40 minute mode then shut down and the next time you start the computer jaws announces in order to use jaws in 40 minute mode again you must restart your computer. there is a way to disable the windows 10 quick start but I will not include this unless someone asks! -Original Message- From: Pinky Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 11:36 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Hi Neal, If you are using W10 the only time my pc makes the windows sound is on restart. But from a cold start W10 does not make a sound. Just to let you know. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Neil Towery Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 1:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Hello Gang: I have a windows 10 laptop that has been working fine for almost two months. Yesterday, right after jaws came up, I heard a question similar to: "Hello, how do you like this picture. We will be sending you more, et cetra." Even though I do not sign in with a password, I was able to find the sign in button, and struck the space bar. However, the computer crashed. as in shut down. I thought it was automatically re-starting, for some unknown reason. Did a forced re-start. Heard similar info. Found sign in button. Space bar. Computer shut down. One of the times, I heard something about starting in the locked mode. Now, the computer starts normally, as it pertains to the sound and humming. However, there is no sound. Not even the windows start up sound. The computer automatically shuts down in about a minute and half, after I press the start button. Without sighted help how do I get it to start in safe mode? Since narrator has been so good in windows 10, will it allow me to do a system restore? Sighted help might arrive, sometime tomorrow. But, I was just wondering if I could do it using jaws and narrator. Thanks, and Merry Christmas. He is The Reason for the season. Neil For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://w
Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10
That check box dude is talking about says fast sstart up, even when it's checked. Lol, my machine takes forever to boot into windows. False advertisement! -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 4:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Kevin, Why would someone want to disable this feature? Best, Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:21 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 forgot to change subject line press win key+x from the context menu arrow to power options press enter tab torequire a password on startup then press enter tab to change settings that are currently unavailable press enter tab to require a password this menu are radio buttons arrow down to don't require a password tab to enable quick start this is a check box and it is checked by default press spacebar to uncheck tab to ok tab to save changes -Original Message- From: Singing Sparrow Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:08 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Could you please tell us how to disable the windows 10 quick start? On 12/23/2015 2:27 PM, Kevin wrote: > with windows 10 you never start the computer from a cold start. the > computer is in hibernation mode which enables the quick start. when > quick starting the computer some drivers don't get loaded hence the > startup sound does not play. this is why when you run jaws in 40 > minute mode then shut down and the next time you start the computer > jaws announces in order to use jaws in 40 minute mode again you must > restart your computer. > there is a way to disable the windows 10 quick start but I will not > include this unless someone asks! > > -Original Message- From: Pinky > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 11:36 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? > > Hi Neal, > If you are using W10 the only time my pc makes the windows sound is on > restart. But from a cold start W10 does not make a sound. Just to let > you know. > Ed > > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] > On Behalf Of Neil Towery > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 1:27 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? > > Hello Gang: > > I have a windows 10 laptop that has been working fine for almost two > months. Yesterday, right after jaws came up, I heard a question > similar to: > > "Hello, how do you like this picture. We will be sending you more, et > cetra." Even though I do not sign in with a password, I was able to > find the sign in button, and struck the space bar. However, the > computer crashed. as in shut down. I thought it was automatically > re-starting, for some unknown reason. Did a forced re-start. Heard > similar info. Found sign in button. > Space bar. Computer shut down. > > One of the times, I heard something about starting in the locked mode. > > Now, the computer starts normally, as it pertains to the sound and > humming. > However, there is no sound. Not even the windows start up sound. The > computer automatically shuts down in about a minute and half, after I > press the start button. > > Without sighted help how do I get it to start in safe mode? Since > narrator has been so good in windows 10, will it allow me to do a > system restore? > > Sighted help might arrive, sometime tomorrow. But, I was just > wondering if I could do it using jaws and narrator. > > Thanks, and Merry Christmas. He is The Reason for the season. > > Neil > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10
Mine is checked and sir, it does completely shut down. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Moore Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 5:57 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Hi Al, One reason is because if you are running a program in demo version, the quick start will not set the timer back so you can use for another 40 minutes. Another reason, is the quick start is why people are not hearing a sound when they shut their computer off or turn it back on. Also, the quick start does not shut the computer totally down, so it is not the same as a complete shut down. I do not like the quick start for all of these reasons. Have a great one, Al. -Original Message- From: Alan Robbins Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 7:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Kevin, Why would someone want to disable this feature? Best, Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:21 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 forgot to change subject line press win key+x from the context menu arrow to power options press enter tab to require a password on startup then press enter tab to change settings that are currently unavailable press enter tab to require a password this menu are radio buttons arrow down to don't require a password tab to enable quick start this is a check box and it is checked by default press spacebar to uncheck tab to ok tab to save changes -Original Message- From: Singing Sparrow Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:08 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Could you please tell us how to disable the windows 10 quick start? On 12/23/2015 2:27 PM, Kevin wrote: > with windows 10 you never start the computer from a cold start. the > computer is in hibernation mode which enables the quick start. when > quick starting the computer some drivers don't get loaded hence the > startup sound does not play. this is why when you run jaws in 40 > minute mode then shut down and the next time you start the computer > jaws announces in order to use jaws in 40 minute mode again you must > restart your computer. > there is a way to disable the windows 10 quick start but I will not > include this unless someone asks! > > -Original Message- From: Pinky > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 11:36 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? > > Hi Neal, > If you are using W10 the only time my pc makes the windows sound is on > restart. But from a cold start W10 does not make a sound. Just to let > you know. > Ed > > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] > On Behalf Of Neil Towery > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 1:27 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? > > Hello Gang: > > I have a windows 10 laptop that has been working fine for almost two > months. Yesterday, right after jaws came up, I heard a question > similar to: > > "Hello, how do you like this picture. We will be sending you more, et > cetra." Even though I do not sign in with a password, I was able to > find the sign in button, and struck the space bar. However, the > computer crashed. as in shut down. I thought it was automatically > re-starting, for some unknown reason. Did a forced re-start. Heard > similar info. Found sign in button. > Space bar. Computer shut down. > > One of the times, I heard something about starting in the locked mode. > > Now, the computer starts normally, as it pertains to the sound and > humming. > However, there is no sound. Not even the windows start up sound. The > computer automatically shuts down in about a minute and half, after I > press the start button. > > Without sighted help how do I get it to start in safe mode? Since > narrator has been so good in windows 10, will it allow me to do a > system restore? > > Sighted help might arrive, sometime tomorrow. But, I was just > wondering if I could do it using jaws and narrator. > > Thanks, and Merry Christmas. He is The Reason for the season. > > Neil > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions a
Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10
Hi David, I disagree, a person should leave quick start alone. This is one of the benefits of w-10, a quick start. When you shut your computer down, for all practical purposes it is shut down. Yes, it is in a stand by mode, but all things are shut down. So, when a person presses the power button on the computer, it powers up in seconds. As far as the windows sounds, they will work on restart, because you are restarting the computer. When you do a shut down and a start up, you are starting out freshly, but you will not hear the windows sounds because you are quickly waking up the computer, henceforth the term quick start. I don't know a lot of people who use demo programs on a consistent bases. In my opinion, I would leave quick start alone. Just my two cents worth on the subject. Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed reaching His goal. Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with good health. Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually balanced with wealth. Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where God sits. Jim -Original Message- From: David Moore Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 8:56 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Hi Al, One reason is because if you are running a program in demo version, the quick start will not set the timer back so you can use for another 40 minutes. Another reason, is the quick start is why people are not hearing a sound when they shut their computer off or turn it back on. Also, the quick start does not shut the computer totally down, so it is not the same as a complete shut down. I do not like the quick start for all of these reasons. Have a great one, Al. -Original Message- From: Alan Robbins Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 7:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Kevin, Why would someone want to disable this feature? Best, Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:21 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 forgot to change subject line press win key+x from the context menu arrow to power options press enter tab to require a password on startup then press enter tab to change settings that are currently unavailable press enter tab to require a password this menu are radio buttons arrow down to don't require a password tab to enable quick start this is a check box and it is checked by default press spacebar to uncheck tab to ok tab to save changes -Original Message- From: Singing Sparrow Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:08 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Could you please tell us how to disable the windows 10 quick start? On 12/23/2015 2:27 PM, Kevin wrote: with windows 10 you never start the computer from a cold start. the computer is in hibernation mode which enables the quick start. when quick starting the computer some drivers don't get loaded hence the startup sound does not play. this is why when you run jaws in 40 minute mode then shut down and the next time you start the computer jaws announces in order to use jaws in 40 minute mode again you must restart your computer. there is a way to disable the windows 10 quick start but I will not include this unless someone asks! -Original Message- From: Pinky Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 11:36 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Hi Neal, If you are using W10 the only time my pc makes the windows sound is on restart. But from a cold start W10 does not make a sound. Just to let you know. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Neil Towery Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 1:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Hello Gang: I have a windows 10 laptop that has been working fine for almost two months. Yesterday, right after jaws came up, I heard a question similar to: "Hello, how do you like this picture. We will be sending you more, et cetra." Even though I do not sign in with a password, I was able to find the sign in button, and struck the space bar. However, the computer crashed. as in shut down. I thought it was automatically re-starting, for some unknown reason. Did a forced re-start. Heard similar info. Found sign in button. Space bar. Computer shut down. One of the times, I heard something about starting in the locked mode. Now, the computer starts normally, as it pertains to the sound and humming. Howe
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Hi Robin, Again, there is no advantage to turning quick start off. This is a benefit of using w-10. For all practical purposes your computer is shut down, when choosing shut down. I have done this from the beginning every day when I am done using the computer, I use shut down. In the morning I just press the power button, in about 10 seconds or less, my computer comes on with Jaws talking. I then press the 4 digit pin, in a few seconds I am on the desktop. So, I don't understand all the fuss about turning it off. I am a big security minded person. So, anything beyond my anti-virus, that helps protect my computer is welcome. Good luck, just my opinion. Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed reaching His goal. Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with good health. Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually balanced with wealth. Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where God sits. Jim -Original Message- From: Robin Frost Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:14 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Hi, Forgive me for jumping in on this thread but Kevin's instructions say you have to turn off requiring a password to disable this. I didn't think you needed to do that. can someone clarify as I wouldn't want to disseminate erroneous information but I truly didn't remember having to have done that as I'm still logging into windows with a pin and my machines are still set to require one but I did disable fast startup myself. thanks bunches for clarifying. Robin -Original Message- From: David Moore Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 8:56 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Hi Al, One reason is because if you are running a program in demo version, the quick start will not set the timer back so you can use for another 40 minutes. Another reason, is the quick start is why people are not hearing a sound when they shut their computer off or turn it back on. Also, the quick start does not shut the computer totally down, so it is not the same as a complete shut down. I do not like the quick start for all of these reasons. Have a great one, Al. -Original Message- From: Alan Robbins Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 7:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Kevin, Why would someone want to disable this feature? Best, Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:21 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 forgot to change subject line press win key+x from the context menu arrow to power options press enter tab to require a password on startup then press enter tab to change settings that are currently unavailable press enter tab to require a password this menu are radio buttons arrow down to don't require a password tab to enable quick start this is a check box and it is checked by default press spacebar to uncheck tab to ok tab to save changes -Original Message- From: Singing Sparrow Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:08 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Could you please tell us how to disable the windows 10 quick start? On 12/23/2015 2:27 PM, Kevin wrote: with windows 10 you never start the computer from a cold start. the computer is in hibernation mode which enables the quick start. when quick starting the computer some drivers don't get loaded hence the startup sound does not play. this is why when you run jaws in 40 minute mode then shut down and the next time you start the computer jaws announces in order to use jaws in 40 minute mode again you must restart your computer. there is a way to disable the windows 10 quick start but I will not include this unless someone asks! -Original Message- From: Pinky Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 11:36 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Hi Neal, If you are using W10 the only time my pc makes the windows sound is on restart. But from a cold start W10 does not make a sound. Just to let you know. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Neil Towery Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 1:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Hello Gang: I have a windows 10 laptop that has been working fine for almost two months. Yesterday, right after jaws came up, I heard a question similar to: "Hello, how do you like this picture. We will be send
Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10
I don't know about that! -Original Message- From: Mario Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 4:50 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 I don't have windows 10, but from most of the posts/replies I've read, it appears to be equated to the hybernation mode which, correct me if I'm wrong, was a troublesome mode for JAWS users. On 12/28/2015 7:01 PM, Alan Robbins wrote: Kevin, Why would someone want to disable this feature? Best, Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:21 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 forgot to change subject line press win key+x from the context menu arrow to power options press enter tab torequire a password on startup then press enter tab to change settings that are currently unavailable press enter tab to require a password this menu are radio buttons arrow down to don't require a password tab to enable quick start this is a check box and it is checked by default press spacebar to uncheck tab to ok tab to save changes -Original Message- From: Singing Sparrow Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:08 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Could you please tell us how to disable the windows 10 quick start? On 12/23/2015 2:27 PM, Kevin wrote: with windows 10 you never start the computer from a cold start. the computer is in hibernation mode which enables the quick start. when quick starting the computer some drivers don't get loaded hence the startup sound does not play. this is why when you run jaws in 40 minute mode then shut down and the next time you start the computer jaws announces in order to use jaws in 40 minute mode again you must restart your computer. there is a way to disable the windows 10 quick start but I will not include this unless someone asks! -Original Message- From: Pinky Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 11:36 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Hi Neal, If you are using W10 the only time my pc makes the windows sound is on restart. But from a cold start W10 does not make a sound. Just to let you know. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Neil Towery Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 1:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Hello Gang: I have a windows 10 laptop that has been working fine for almost two months. Yesterday, right after jaws came up, I heard a question similar to: "Hello, how do you like this picture. We will be sending you more, et cetra." Even though I do not sign in with a password, I was able to find the sign in button, and struck the space bar. However, the computer crashed. as in shut down. I thought it was automatically re-starting, for some unknown reason. Did a forced re-start. Heard similar info. Found sign in button. Space bar. Computer shut down. One of the times, I heard something about starting in the locked mode. Now, the computer starts normally, as it pertains to the sound and humming. However, there is no sound. Not even the windows start up sound. The computer automatically shuts down in about a minute and half, after I press the start button. Without sighted help how do I get it to start in safe mode? Since narrator has been so good in windows 10, will it allow me to do a system restore? Sighted help might arrive, sometime tomorrow. But, I was just wondering if I could do it using jaws and narrator. Thanks, and Merry Christmas. He is The Reason for the season. Neil For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10
Hi Al, One reason is because if you are running a program in demo version, the quick start will not set the timer back so you can use for another 40 minutes. Another reason, is the quick start is why people are not hearing a sound when they shut their computer off or turn it back on. Also, the quick start does not shut the computer totally down, so it is not the same as a complete shut down. I do not like the quick start for all of these reasons. Have a great one, Al. -Original Message- From: Alan Robbins Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 7:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Kevin, Why would someone want to disable this feature? Best, Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:21 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 forgot to change subject line press win key+x from the context menu arrow to power options press enter tab to require a password on startup then press enter tab to change settings that are currently unavailable press enter tab to require a password this menu are radio buttons arrow down to don't require a password tab to enable quick start this is a check box and it is checked by default press spacebar to uncheck tab to ok tab to save changes -Original Message- From: Singing Sparrow Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:08 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Could you please tell us how to disable the windows 10 quick start? On 12/23/2015 2:27 PM, Kevin wrote: with windows 10 you never start the computer from a cold start. the computer is in hibernation mode which enables the quick start. when quick starting the computer some drivers don't get loaded hence the startup sound does not play. this is why when you run jaws in 40 minute mode then shut down and the next time you start the computer jaws announces in order to use jaws in 40 minute mode again you must restart your computer. there is a way to disable the windows 10 quick start but I will not include this unless someone asks! -Original Message- From: Pinky Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 11:36 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Hi Neal, If you are using W10 the only time my pc makes the windows sound is on restart. But from a cold start W10 does not make a sound. Just to let you know. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Neil Towery Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 1:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Hello Gang: I have a windows 10 laptop that has been working fine for almost two months. Yesterday, right after jaws came up, I heard a question similar to: "Hello, how do you like this picture. We will be sending you more, et cetra." Even though I do not sign in with a password, I was able to find the sign in button, and struck the space bar. However, the computer crashed. as in shut down. I thought it was automatically re-starting, for some unknown reason. Did a forced re-start. Heard similar info. Found sign in button. Space bar. Computer shut down. One of the times, I heard something about starting in the locked mode. Now, the computer starts normally, as it pertains to the sound and humming. However, there is no sound. Not even the windows start up sound. The computer automatically shuts down in about a minute and half, after I press the start button. Without sighted help how do I get it to start in safe mode? Since narrator has been so good in windows 10, will it allow me to do a system restore? Sighted help might arrive, sometime tomorrow. But, I was just wondering if I could do it using jaws and narrator. Thanks, and Merry Christmas. He is The Reason for the season. Neil For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10
forgot to change subject line press win key+x from the context menu arrow to power options press enter tab torequire a password on startup then press enter tab to change settings that are currently unavailable press enter tab to require a password this menu are radio buttons arrow down to don't require a password tab to enable quick start this is a check box and it is checked by default press spacebar to uncheck tab to ok tab to save changes -Original Message- From: Singing Sparrow Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:08 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Could you please tell us how to disable the windows 10 quick start? On 12/23/2015 2:27 PM, Kevin wrote: with windows 10 you never start the computer from a cold start. the computer is in hibernation mode which enables the quick start. when quick starting the computer some drivers don't get loaded hence the startup sound does not play. this is why when you run jaws in 40 minute mode then shut down and the next time you start the computer jaws announces in order to use jaws in 40 minute mode again you must restart your computer. there is a way to disable the windows 10 quick start but I will not include this unless someone asks! -Original Message- From: Pinky Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 11:36 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Hi Neal, If you are using W10 the only time my pc makes the windows sound is on restart. But from a cold start W10 does not make a sound. Just to let you know. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Neil Towery Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 1:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Hello Gang: I have a windows 10 laptop that has been working fine for almost two months. Yesterday, right after jaws came up, I heard a question similar to: "Hello, how do you like this picture. We will be sending you more, et cetra." Even though I do not sign in with a password, I was able to find the sign in button, and struck the space bar. However, the computer crashed. as in shut down. I thought it was automatically re-starting, for some unknown reason. Did a forced re-start. Heard similar info. Found sign in button. Space bar. Computer shut down. One of the times, I heard something about starting in the locked mode. Now, the computer starts normally, as it pertains to the sound and humming. However, there is no sound. Not even the windows start up sound. The computer automatically shuts down in about a minute and half, after I press the start button. Without sighted help how do I get it to start in safe mode? Since narrator has been so good in windows 10, will it allow me to do a system restore? Sighted help might arrive, sometime tomorrow. But, I was just wondering if I could do it using jaws and narrator. Thanks, and Merry Christmas. He is The Reason for the season. Neil For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10
Hi, Forgive me for jumping in on this thread but Kevin's instructions say you have to turn off requiring a password to disable this. I didn't think you needed to do that. can someone clarify as I wouldn't want to disseminate erroneous information but I truly didn't remember having to have done that as I'm still logging into windows with a pin and my machines are still set to require one but I did disable fast startup myself. thanks bunches for clarifying. Robin -Original Message- From: David Moore Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 8:56 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Hi Al, One reason is because if you are running a program in demo version, the quick start will not set the timer back so you can use for another 40 minutes. Another reason, is the quick start is why people are not hearing a sound when they shut their computer off or turn it back on. Also, the quick start does not shut the computer totally down, so it is not the same as a complete shut down. I do not like the quick start for all of these reasons. Have a great one, Al. -Original Message- From: Alan Robbins Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 7:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Kevin, Why would someone want to disable this feature? Best, Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:21 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 forgot to change subject line press win key+x from the context menu arrow to power options press enter tab to require a password on startup then press enter tab to change settings that are currently unavailable press enter tab to require a password this menu are radio buttons arrow down to don't require a password tab to enable quick start this is a check box and it is checked by default press spacebar to uncheck tab to ok tab to save changes -Original Message- From: Singing Sparrow Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:08 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Could you please tell us how to disable the windows 10 quick start? On 12/23/2015 2:27 PM, Kevin wrote: with windows 10 you never start the computer from a cold start. the computer is in hibernation mode which enables the quick start. when quick starting the computer some drivers don't get loaded hence the startup sound does not play. this is why when you run jaws in 40 minute mode then shut down and the next time you start the computer jaws announces in order to use jaws in 40 minute mode again you must restart your computer. there is a way to disable the windows 10 quick start but I will not include this unless someone asks! -Original Message- From: Pinky Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 11:36 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Hi Neal, If you are using W10 the only time my pc makes the windows sound is on restart. But from a cold start W10 does not make a sound. Just to let you know. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Neil Towery Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 1:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Hello Gang: I have a windows 10 laptop that has been working fine for almost two months. Yesterday, right after jaws came up, I heard a question similar to: "Hello, how do you like this picture. We will be sending you more, et cetra." Even though I do not sign in with a password, I was able to find the sign in button, and struck the space bar. However, the computer crashed. as in shut down. I thought it was automatically re-starting, for some unknown reason. Did a forced re-start. Heard similar info. Found sign in button. Space bar. Computer shut down. One of the times, I heard something about starting in the locked mode. Now, the computer starts normally, as it pertains to the sound and humming. However, there is no sound. Not even the windows start up sound. The computer automatically shuts down in about a minute and half, after I press the start button. Without sighted help how do I get it to start in safe mode? Since narrator has been so good in windows 10, will it allow me to do a system restore? Sighted help might arrive, sometime tomorrow. But, I was just wondering if I could do it using jaws and narrator. Thanks, and Merry Christmas. He is The Reason for the season. Neil For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://w
Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10
no you don't have to change the radio button to don't require a password. that is in my instructions because that is what I did. a lot of people want to startup directly to desktop. I too have sensitive info but I do not store it on the computer, that is what flash drives are for! -Original Message- From: Robin Frost Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 7:14 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Hi, Forgive me for jumping in on this thread but Kevin's instructions say you have to turn off requiring a password to disable this. I didn't think you needed to do that. can someone clarify as I wouldn't want to disseminate erroneous information but I truly didn't remember having to have done that as I'm still logging into windows with a pin and my machines are still set to require one but I did disable fast startup myself. thanks bunches for clarifying. Robin -Original Message- From: David Moore Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 8:56 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Hi Al, One reason is because if you are running a program in demo version, the quick start will not set the timer back so you can use for another 40 minutes. Another reason, is the quick start is why people are not hearing a sound when they shut their computer off or turn it back on. Also, the quick start does not shut the computer totally down, so it is not the same as a complete shut down. I do not like the quick start for all of these reasons. Have a great one, Al. -Original Message- From: Alan Robbins Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 7:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 Kevin, Why would someone want to disable this feature? Best, Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:21 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 forgot to change subject line press win key+x from the context menu arrow to power options press enter tab to require a password on startup then press enter tab to change settings that are currently unavailable press enter tab to require a password this menu are radio buttons arrow down to don't require a password tab to enable quick start this is a check box and it is checked by default press spacebar to uncheck tab to ok tab to save changes -Original Message- From: Singing Sparrow Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:08 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Could you please tell us how to disable the windows 10 quick start? On 12/23/2015 2:27 PM, Kevin wrote: with windows 10 you never start the computer from a cold start. the computer is in hibernation mode which enables the quick start. when quick starting the computer some drivers don't get loaded hence the startup sound does not play. this is why when you run jaws in 40 minute mode then shut down and the next time you start the computer jaws announces in order to use jaws in 40 minute mode again you must restart your computer. there is a way to disable the windows 10 quick start but I will not include this unless someone asks! -Original Message- From: Pinky Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 11:36 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Hi Neal, If you are using W10 the only time my pc makes the windows sound is on restart. But from a cold start W10 does not make a sound. Just to let you know. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Neil Towery Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 1:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Hello Gang: I have a windows 10 laptop that has been working fine for almost two months. Yesterday, right after jaws came up, I heard a question similar to: "Hello, how do you like this picture. We will be sending you more, et cetra." Even though I do not sign in with a password, I was able to find the sign in button, and struck the space bar. However, the computer crashed. as in shut down. I thought it was automatically re-starting, for some unknown reason. Did a forced re-start. Heard similar info. Found sign in button. Space bar. Computer shut down. One of the times, I heard something about starting in the locked mode. Now, the computer starts normally, as it pertains to the sound and humming. However, there is no sound. Not even the windows start up sound. The computer automatically shuts down in about a minute and half, after I press the start button. Without sighted help how do I get it to start in safe mode? Since nar
Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10
Kevin, Why would someone want to disable this feature? Best, Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:21 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 forgot to change subject line press win key+x from the context menu arrow to power options press enter tab torequire a password on startup then press enter tab to change settings that are currently unavailable press enter tab to require a password this menu are radio buttons arrow down to don't require a password tab to enable quick start this is a check box and it is checked by default press spacebar to uncheck tab to ok tab to save changes -Original Message- From: Singing Sparrow Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:08 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Could you please tell us how to disable the windows 10 quick start? On 12/23/2015 2:27 PM, Kevin wrote: > with windows 10 you never start the computer from a cold start. the > computer is in hibernation mode which enables the quick start. when > quick starting the computer some drivers don't get loaded hence the > startup sound does not play. this is why when you run jaws in 40 > minute mode then shut down and the next time you start the computer > jaws announces in order to use jaws in 40 minute mode again you must > restart your computer. > there is a way to disable the windows 10 quick start but I will not > include this unless someone asks! > > -Original Message- From: Pinky > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 11:36 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? > > Hi Neal, > If you are using W10 the only time my pc makes the windows sound is on > restart. But from a cold start W10 does not make a sound. Just to let > you know. > Ed > > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] > On Behalf Of Neil Towery > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 1:27 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? > > Hello Gang: > > I have a windows 10 laptop that has been working fine for almost two > months. Yesterday, right after jaws came up, I heard a question > similar to: > > "Hello, how do you like this picture. We will be sending you more, et > cetra." Even though I do not sign in with a password, I was able to > find the sign in button, and struck the space bar. However, the > computer crashed. as in shut down. I thought it was automatically > re-starting, for some unknown reason. Did a forced re-start. Heard > similar info. Found sign in button. > Space bar. Computer shut down. > > One of the times, I heard something about starting in the locked mode. > > Now, the computer starts normally, as it pertains to the sound and > humming. > However, there is no sound. Not even the windows start up sound. The > computer automatically shuts down in about a minute and half, after I > press the start button. > > Without sighted help how do I get it to start in safe mode? Since > narrator has been so good in windows 10, will it allow me to do a > system restore? > > Sighted help might arrive, sometime tomorrow. But, I was just > wondering if I could do it using jaws and narrator. > > Thanks, and Merry Christmas. He is The Reason for the season. > > Neil > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10
I don't have windows 10, but from most of the posts/replies I've read, it appears to be equated to the hybernation mode which, correct me if I'm wrong, was a troublesome mode for JAWS users. On 12/28/2015 7:01 PM, Alan Robbins wrote: Kevin, Why would someone want to disable this feature? Best, Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:21 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10 forgot to change subject line press win key+x from the context menu arrow to power options press enter tab torequire a password on startup then press enter tab to change settings that are currently unavailable press enter tab to require a password this menu are radio buttons arrow down to don't require a password tab to enable quick start this is a check box and it is checked by default press spacebar to uncheck tab to ok tab to save changes -Original Message- From: Singing Sparrow Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:08 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Could you please tell us how to disable the windows 10 quick start? On 12/23/2015 2:27 PM, Kevin wrote: with windows 10 you never start the computer from a cold start. the computer is in hibernation mode which enables the quick start. when quick starting the computer some drivers don't get loaded hence the startup sound does not play. this is why when you run jaws in 40 minute mode then shut down and the next time you start the computer jaws announces in order to use jaws in 40 minute mode again you must restart your computer. there is a way to disable the windows 10 quick start but I will not include this unless someone asks! -Original Message- From: Pinky Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 11:36 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Hi Neal, If you are using W10 the only time my pc makes the windows sound is on restart. But from a cold start W10 does not make a sound. Just to let you know. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Neil Towery Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 1:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode & restore? Hello Gang: I have a windows 10 laptop that has been working fine for almost two months. Yesterday, right after jaws came up, I heard a question similar to: "Hello, how do you like this picture. We will be sending you more, et cetra." Even though I do not sign in with a password, I was able to find the sign in button, and struck the space bar. However, the computer crashed. as in shut down. I thought it was automatically re-starting, for some unknown reason. Did a forced re-start. Heard similar info. Found sign in button. Space bar. Computer shut down. One of the times, I heard something about starting in the locked mode. Now, the computer starts normally, as it pertains to the sound and humming. However, there is no sound. Not even the windows start up sound. The computer automatically shuts down in about a minute and half, after I press the start button. Without sighted help how do I get it to start in safe mode? Since narrator has been so good in windows 10, will it allow me to do a system restore? Sighted help might arrive, sometime tomorrow. But, I was just wondering if I could do it using jaws and narrator. Thanks, and Merry Christmas. He is The Reason for the season. Neil For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/