Re: [JAWS-Users] on some websites I can't activate buttons

2015-11-30 Thread Steve
It is the OCR processing--insert-space followed by O for OCR; then choose S for 
Screen, W for Window, or C for current control.  If you are in a .pdf that 
won't 
read, you can press D for document.


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From: joanne
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Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] on some websites I can't activate buttons


Steve, what is the Jaws image processing function?  I never heard of this,
and what would be the keyboard command for this?

Thanks.


- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" <pipeguy...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] on some websites I can't activate buttons


> Two things you should try if you haven't:
>
> Try it with a different browser--I've had sites where firefox will work if
> IE 11
> doesn't and vice versa.
>
> Second, try the Jaws image processing function; sometimes there will be
> something you can double-click on after you do the recognition.
>
> Third, try a different screen-reader.  You will need to refresh the page,
> but on
> some sites I've had luck with NVDA or System Access when Jaws would not
> work.
>
> Steve
> Lansing
> - Original Message - 
> From: joanne
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 8:04 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] on some websites I can't activate buttons
>
>
> On some websites I run across buttons I can't click on with space or
> enter.  I
> try routing cursors, turning off virtual cursor, left clicking, just about
> everything I can think of but the keystroke won't work to get me to the
> next
> page.  I see it a lot on banking sites and on submit or continue buttons.
> Due
> to the configuration of some newer websites with maybe too many
> graphics--just
> making a guess--is there just no way to be able to use buttons and
> therefore the
> inability to complete tasks on these sites without sighted help?  I truly
> hope
> there's an answer and that it's not impossible to use these sites
> independently.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Joanne
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] on some websites I can't activate buttons

2015-11-30 Thread Steve
Two things you should try if you haven't:

Try it with a different browser--I've had sites where firefox will work if IE 
11 
doesn't and vice versa.

Second, try the Jaws image processing function; sometimes there will be 
something you can double-click on after you do the recognition.

Third, try a different screen-reader.  You will need to refresh the page, but 
on 
some sites I've had luck with NVDA or System Access when Jaws would not work.

Steve
Lansing
- Original Message - 
From: joanne
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 8:04 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] on some websites I can't activate buttons


On some websites I run across buttons I can't click on with space or enter.  I 
try routing cursors, turning off virtual cursor, left clicking, just about 
everything I can think of but the keystroke won't work to get me to the next 
page.  I see it a lot on banking sites and on submit or continue buttons.  Due 
to the configuration of some newer websites with maybe too many graphics--just 
making a guess--is there just no way to be able to use buttons and therefore 
the 
inability to complete tasks on these sites without sighted help?  I truly hope 
there's an answer and that it's not impossible to use these sites independently.

Thanks.

Joanne
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Re: [JAWS-Users] on some websites I can't activate buttons

2015-11-30 Thread Rose Combs
Speaking of Amazon!  I note that many of the e-mails I get read the subject
line and then stop, rest of the screen is blank.  Using Jaws 17 latest,
tried Jaws key X to switch through the different smart navigation views,
pages that used to read are now blank.  Using Outlook 2010 Windows 7.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the
memory!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 6:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] on some websites I can't activate buttons

I just asked this same question this week to some tech people because I had
the same experience on amazon. I am still waiting for a satisfactory
solution.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of joanne
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 8:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] on some websites I can't activate buttons

On some websites I run across buttons I can't click on with space or enter.
I try routing cursors, turning off virtual cursor, left clicking, just about
everything I can think of but the keystroke won't work to get me to the next
page.  I see it a lot on banking sites and on submit or continue buttons.
Due to the configuration of some newer websites with maybe too many
graphics--just making a guess--is there just no way to be able to use
buttons and therefore the inability to complete tasks on these sites without
sighted help?  I truly hope there's an answer and that it's not impossible
to use these sites independently.

Thanks.

Joanne
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Re: [JAWS-Users] on some websites I can't activate buttons

2015-11-30 Thread joanne
Steve, what is the Jaws image processing function?  I never heard of this, 
and what would be the keyboard command for this?


Thanks.


- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" <pipeguy...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] on some websites I can't activate buttons



Two things you should try if you haven't:

Try it with a different browser--I've had sites where firefox will work if 
IE 11

doesn't and vice versa.

Second, try the Jaws image processing function; sometimes there will be
something you can double-click on after you do the recognition.

Third, try a different screen-reader.  You will need to refresh the page, 
but on
some sites I've had luck with NVDA or System Access when Jaws would not 
work.


Steve
Lansing
- Original Message - 
From: joanne

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 8:04 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] on some websites I can't activate buttons


On some websites I run across buttons I can't click on with space or 
enter.  I

try routing cursors, turning off virtual cursor, left clicking, just about
everything I can think of but the keystroke won't work to get me to the 
next
page.  I see it a lot on banking sites and on submit or continue buttons. 
Due
to the configuration of some newer websites with maybe too many 
graphics--just
making a guess--is there just no way to be able to use buttons and 
therefore the
inability to complete tasks on these sites without sighted help?  I truly 
hope
there's an answer and that it's not impossible to use these sites 
independently.


Thanks.

Joanne
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Re: [JAWS-Users] on some websites I can't activate buttons

2015-11-29 Thread Philip Hall
Hi.
I have the same problem with my banking website.
I sometimes have to switch browsers, and sometimes I have to change screen
readers in the middle of what I am doing to click a button, or link.
I think the website is just poorly coded not taking accessibility into
account.

There is a lawyer in California that is an expert in getting many of these
sites to make their websites accessible.
She made Bank of America change their website to make it more accessible,
and she just made humana make their prescription labels accessible. She also
make CVS do the same thing.

Phil



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of joanne
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 8:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] on some websites I can't activate buttons

On some websites I run across buttons I can't click on with space or enter.
I try routing cursors, turning off virtual cursor, left clicking, just about
everything I can think of but the keystroke won't work to get me to the next
page.  I see it a lot on banking sites and on submit or continue buttons.
Due to the configuration of some newer websites with maybe too many
graphics--just making a guess--is there just no way to be able to use
buttons and therefore the inability to complete tasks on these sites without
sighted help?  I truly hope there's an answer and that it's not impossible
to use these sites independently.

Thanks.

Joanne
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Re: [JAWS-Users] on some websites I can't activate buttons

2015-11-29 Thread Robin Frost

Hi,
I've noticed that when encountering some of these buttons or links sometimes 
turning off virtual cursor temporarily in jfw enables them to be executed.

I hope this helps.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Philip Hall

Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 8:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] on some websites I can't activate buttons

Hi.
I have the same problem with my banking website.
I sometimes have to switch browsers, and sometimes I have to change screen
readers in the middle of what I am doing to click a button, or link.
I think the website is just poorly coded not taking accessibility into
account.

There is a lawyer in California that is an expert in getting many of these
sites to make their websites accessible.
She made Bank of America change their website to make it more accessible,
and she just made humana make their prescription labels accessible. She also
make CVS do the same thing.

Phil



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of joanne
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 8:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] on some websites I can't activate buttons

On some websites I run across buttons I can't click on with space or enter.
I try routing cursors, turning off virtual cursor, left clicking, just about
everything I can think of but the keystroke won't work to get me to the next
page.  I see it a lot on banking sites and on submit or continue buttons.
Due to the configuration of some newer websites with maybe too many
graphics--just making a guess--is there just no way to be able to use
buttons and therefore the inability to complete tasks on these sites without
sighted help?  I truly hope there's an answer and that it's not impossible
to use these sites independently.

Thanks.

Joanne
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Re: [JAWS-Users] on some websites I can't activate buttons

2015-11-28 Thread Saylien Brown
I experience this quite a lot too. Using latest build of FireFox 
under Windows 8.1 with a TripleTalk USB synth.


I have to use the JAWS v17 OCR feature ([Insert]+[Spacebar], [o], 
then [w]) and then use the JAWS cursor to locate the button text to 
left mouse click on it.


It's like JAWS isn't getting the correct X/Y coordinates for the 
link/button as you're using the virtual cursor to read/navigate 
through the webpage. It is really a pain in the butt when I thought 
hitting the [Enter] or [Spacebar] key on a link or button would 
simulate a left mouse click. Guess FS has secretly disabled this 
functionality or something?


At 09:54 PM 11/27/2015, you wrote:

Joanne, I have run into the same problems with web sites too especially
banking.  I have windows 10 and when that does happen to me, I have to
switch to narrator and then switch back to jaws.  It is a pain in the butt.
However, I can do it and hopefully soon, this will be able to be rectified.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of joanne
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 8:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] on some websites I can't activate buttons

On some websites I run across buttons I can't click on with space or enter.
I try routing cursors, turning off virtual cursor, left clicking, just about
everything I can think of but the keystroke won't work to get me to the next
page.  I see it a lot on banking sites and on submit or continue buttons.
Due to the configuration of some newer websites with maybe too many
graphics--just making a guess--is there just no way to be able to use
buttons and therefore the inability to complete tasks on these sites without
sighted help?  I truly hope there's an answer and that it's not impossible
to use these sites independently.

Thanks.

Joanne
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Re: [JAWS-Users] on some websites I can't activate buttons

2015-11-28 Thread anwar masieh

Which Jaws you are using?
Also which OS you are using?
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1


-Original Message- 
From: joanne

Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 6:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] on some websites I can't activate buttons

On some websites I run across buttons I can't click on with space or enter. 
I try routing cursors, turning off virtual cursor, left clicking, just about 
everything I can think of but the keystroke won't work to get me to the next 
page.  I see it a lot on banking sites and on submit or continue buttons. 
Due to the configuration of some newer websites with maybe too many 
graphics--just making a guess--is there just no way to be able to use 
buttons and therefore the inability to complete tasks on these sites without 
sighted help?  I truly hope there's an answer and that it's not impossible 
to use these sites independently.


Thanks.

Joanne
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Re: [JAWS-Users] on some websites I can't activate buttons

2015-11-27 Thread Diane Giannetti
Joanne, I have run into the same problems with web sites too especially
banking.  I have windows 10 and when that does happen to me, I have to
switch to narrator and then switch back to jaws.  It is a pain in the butt.
However, I can do it and hopefully soon, this will be able to be rectified.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of joanne
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 8:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] on some websites I can't activate buttons

On some websites I run across buttons I can't click on with space or enter.
I try routing cursors, turning off virtual cursor, left clicking, just about
everything I can think of but the keystroke won't work to get me to the next
page.  I see it a lot on banking sites and on submit or continue buttons.
Due to the configuration of some newer websites with maybe too many
graphics--just making a guess--is there just no way to be able to use
buttons and therefore the inability to complete tasks on these sites without
sighted help?  I truly hope there's an answer and that it's not impossible
to use these sites independently.

Thanks.

Joanne
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[JAWS-Users] on some websites I can't activate buttons

2015-11-27 Thread joanne
On some websites I run across buttons I can't click on with space or enter.  I 
try routing cursors, turning off virtual cursor, left clicking, just about 
everything I can think of but the keystroke won't work to get me to the next 
page.  I see it a lot on banking sites and on submit or continue buttons.  Due 
to the configuration of some newer websites with maybe too many graphics--just 
making a guess--is there just no way to be able to use buttons and therefore 
the inability to complete tasks on these sites without sighted help?  I truly 
hope there's an answer and that it's not impossible to use these sites 
independently.

Thanks.

Joanne
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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


Re: [JAWS-Users] on some websites I can't activate buttons

2015-11-27 Thread Merv Keck
I just asked this same question this week to some tech people because I had
the same experience on amazon. I am still waiting for a satisfactory
solution.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of joanne
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 8:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] on some websites I can't activate buttons

On some websites I run across buttons I can't click on with space or enter.
I try routing cursors, turning off virtual cursor, left clicking, just about
everything I can think of but the keystroke won't work to get me to the next
page.  I see it a lot on banking sites and on submit or continue buttons.
Due to the configuration of some newer websites with maybe too many
graphics--just making a guess--is there just no way to be able to use
buttons and therefore the inability to complete tasks on these sites without
sighted help?  I truly hope there's an answer and that it's not impossible
to use these sites independently.

Thanks.

Joanne
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