Re: [JAWS-Users] the questionmark does not speak like normal
I never did really get an answer to my problem. Apparently, there are a few keyboards that type different styles than others. I was only having problems with a Daily Devotion that I received. That was the only thing that I had a problem with. So, the only way I knew to solve the problem was to stop subscribing to it. Please join us on Skype Monday thru Friday at 8:00 EST for our Morning Skype Prayer Time. Contact Me At: Donnie Parrett 1956 Asa Flat Road Annville, Kentucky 40402 Home Phone: 606-364-3321 Church Phone: 606-364-PRAY Skype Name: Donnie1261 Email: deparr...@prtcnet.org -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of Victor Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 12:23 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the questionmark does not speak like normal I have also noticed that the apostrophe now is spoken as a graphic string of characters, as opposed to it's proper name of apostrophe. I also believe that Donny also had this problem way back when. Not sure if he fixed the problem or not, but if he did, perhaps he'd like to share the fix with the rest of us. Or, if anyone else has a fix for this, I would appreciate the help, as I'm sure others would as well. I'm using the latest build of Jaws 10, with Windows XP home, and Internet explorer 8, and it has been doing this since explorer 7, and, most notably in send space files I've downloaded, where the file name has a particular apostrophe in the name. Now, as I think about it, it seems that I can arrow through the characters that have replaced the apostrophe, and delete them one at a time, then add in the apostrophe, and it then is spoken correctly. Could this have anything to do with it? Just thinking aloud here, thanks folks. Thanks all. Victor Co-moderator Blind Movie Buffs List Guidedogs List For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] the questionmark does not speak like normal
There are some programmes like Microsoft Word which have peculiar settings, things like Smart Quotes and such which substitute the quote or the apostrophe character, that is, the ASCII equivalent number with something which produces a graphic looking like an apostrophe or a quote or sometimes some other characters in other contexts, possibly a fancy question mark. Sighted people consider these unique, interesting or different because visually they are not difficult to interpret. Jaws however doesn't necessarily know what that particular numeric value is supposed to represent. Further, the sighted user can, if desired recognize it to be a question mark in that particular context. It may have a different significance in another context but if Jaws assumed it to be a question mark the blind person could not know it was anything other than the usual question mark character. Usually this would not probably matter, these things though are a matter of discretion. I for won dislike when software and/or hardware designers decide I am too delicate to hear swear words and build in alternative pronunciations or when they assume that all two letter combinations represent the short forms of American state names. It is like when you use JawsKey + TopRow 4. There is a list of graphic characters there you can choose to insert into your document. It is far from a complete list of available graphics and probably depends on application as to what many of them mean. The thing to remember is that computers use numbers. What those numbers mean or how they will be rendered on the screen depends on the context. There is a lot of general agreement about what a lot of those numbers will mean across a number of contexts. Most word processors agree much of the time on what they mean, usually e-mail is limited to the ASCII set when plane text is selected however this is why files created in one application are not usually accessible to another application. Even different versions of a particular application don't always agree on what the numbers mean. You need to do things to a Word7 file and probably lose some features if you wish to view it in Word2003 for example. Wasn't it just here on this list recently we discussed reading .PDF files and the various contexts Adobe uses? One could probably create a Jaws dictionary rule by highlighting one of those odd characters and copying it into the dictionary with a created pronunciation rule. I am not sure how that would play in the case of the apostrophe since many of those pronunciations probably include the entire word. Dale Leavens. - Original Message - From: Donnie Parrett deparr...@prtcnet.org To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the questionmark does not speak like normal I never did really get an answer to my problem. Apparently, there are a few keyboards that type different styles than others. I was only having problems with a Daily Devotion that I received. That was the only thing that I had a problem with. So, the only way I knew to solve the problem was to stop subscribing to it. Please join us on Skype Monday thru Friday at 8:00 EST for our Morning Skype Prayer Time. Contact Me At: Donnie Parrett 1956 Asa Flat Road Annville, Kentucky 40402 Home Phone: 606-364-3321 Church Phone: 606-364-PRAY Skype Name: Donnie1261 Email: deparr...@prtcnet.org -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of Victor Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 12:23 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the questionmark does not speak like normal I have also noticed that the apostrophe now is spoken as a graphic string of characters, as opposed to it's proper name of apostrophe. I also believe that Donny also had this problem way back when. Not sure if he fixed the problem or not, but if he did, perhaps he'd like to share the fix with the rest of us. Or, if anyone else has a fix for this, I would appreciate the help, as I'm sure others would as well. I'm using the latest build of Jaws 10, with Windows XP home, and Internet explorer 8, and it has been doing this since explorer 7, and, most notably in send space files I've downloaded, where the file name has a particular apostrophe in the name. Now, as I think about it, it seems that I can arrow through the characters that have replaced the apostrophe, and delete them one at a time, then add in the apostrophe, and it then is spoken correctly. Could this have anything to do with it? Just thinking aloud here, thanks folks. Thanks all. Victor Co-moderator Blind Movie Buffs List Guidedogs List For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently
[JAWS-Users] the questionmark does not speak like normal
Hello. I have a friend who is having this problem. She pushes the questionmark key but it says another punctuation like left double bracket or something of that nature. I tolk her to have a sighted person take a look to see if the questionmark is coming out correctly on the screen. If it is, what could be causing her jaws to do this? She is using jaws 8. Thanks. Sarah Alawami msn: chell...@hotmail.com skype: marrie1 website: http://www.marrie.org http://www.marrie.org/ twitter: http://twitter.com/marrie1 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] the questionmark does not speak like normal
Hello Sarah, It is possible that the question mark key has been mapped to a different key function. However, before getting into key mapping there is another possibility you might check out. One of my keyboards at work for some reason keeps switching to other keyboard languages. There will be times when I put in a password and it is rejected, and the reason is that the keyboard has changed to using a different language. If there is more than one keyboard language installed then try using the left Alt key with the left shift key to see if you can switch between keyboard languages. If the left alt with left shift doesn't switch keyboard languages then check in the control panel under the keyboard settings to find out if there are other keyboard languages installed. In the settings there is a choice for using the Alt and shift key for switching that can be checked if there are keyboard languages to switch between. There are other possible reasons for the problem to be happening, but you might just check this out first. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net - Original Message - From: Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 12:09 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] the questionmark does not speak like normal Hello. I have a friend who is having this problem. She pushes the questionmark key but it says another punctuation like left double bracket or something of that nature. I tolk her to have a sighted person take a look to see if the questionmark is coming out correctly on the screen. If it is, what could be causing her jaws to do this? She is using jaws 8. Thanks. Sarah Alawami msn: chell...@hotmail.com skype: marrie1 website: http://www.marrie.org http://www.marrie.org/ twitter: http://twitter.com/marrie1 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] the questionmark does not speak like normal
I have also noticed that the apostrophe now is spoken as a graphic string of characters, as opposed to it's proper name of apostrophe. I also believe that Donny also had this problem way back when. Not sure if he fixed the problem or not, but if he did, perhaps he'd like to share the fix with the rest of us. Or, if anyone else has a fix for this, I would appreciate the help, as I'm sure others would as well. I'm using the latest build of Jaws 10, with Windows XP home, and Internet explorer 8, and it has been doing this since explorer 7, and, most notably in send space files I've downloaded, where the file name has a particular apostrophe in the name. Now, as I think about it, it seems that I can arrow through the characters that have replaced the apostrophe, and delete them one at a time, then add in the apostrophe, and it then is spoken correctly. Could this have anything to do with it? Just thinking aloud here, thanks folks. Thanks all. Victor Co-moderator Blind Movie Buffs List Guidedogs List For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
