Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions
A pdf image is an image of the document, not marked-up with text itself, but more like where a picture is taken of the page of print. The free version of Adobe Acrobat Reader can't recognize those types of pages. Your only two options are to import them into an OCR program such as OpenBook, or to use the Jaws 16 Document recognition which incorporates a version of Abbey Fine Reader OCR to recognize the document. It works quite nicely! Steve - Original Message - From: Tom To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions guess I don't either then. what's the difference in the 2? -Original Message- From: Flor Lynch Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 6:57 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions Lucky so far, I'd say. Most sighted people just don't get that there's a difference between pdf images of text and pdf text itself. And sometimes, people only have paper copies of documents which they must somehow convert to pdf's: so they scan and then convert them as they go. - Original Message - From: Tom tclar...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions well, I'm sure that's right, but since I don't scan, 12 is good. I copy/paste what pdf i open, to a word document, and save that -Original Message- From: Flor Lynch Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 5:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions Not to the same extent. In previous versions you could only *preview* PDF images. Now, with 16, if the pdf is all images, they can be scanned and, often, recognized well. - Original Message - From: Tom tclar...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions I can do that with jaws 12 -Original Message- From: Baracco, Andrew W Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 1:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions One big advantage to JAWS 16 is that JAWS will now scan and read PDF documents. Andy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 10:21 AM To: jul Subject: [EXTERNAL] [JAWS-Users] jaws versions is there that much difference in the jaws versions, that make jumping from one version to the next needed? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions
When you open a pdf image page or document in Adobe Reader, you'll hear JAWS say: Alert! Empty document. In the event that the file contains both text pages and image pages, the text pages will be read but the image pages will display the Alert as above. Then, if you wanna read those image pages, import them from another OCR program or use JAWS16's document OCR feature. I've found it to be reasonably accurate. poor pdf's = poor OCR! - Original Message - From: Tom tclar...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 12:37 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions guess I don't either then. what's the difference in the 2? -Original Message- From: Flor Lynch Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 6:57 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions Lucky so far, I'd say. Most sighted people just don't get that there's a difference between pdf images of text and pdf text itself. And sometimes, people only have paper copies of documents which they must somehow convert to pdf's: so they scan and then convert them as they go. - Original Message - From: Tom tclar...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions well, I'm sure that's right, but since I don't scan, 12 is good. I copy/paste what pdf i open, to a word document, and save that -Original Message- From: Flor Lynch Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 5:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions Not to the same extent. In previous versions you could only *preview* PDF images. Now, with 16, if the pdf is all images, they can be scanned and, often, recognized well. - Original Message - From: Tom tclar...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions I can do that with jaws 12 -Original Message- From: Baracco, Andrew W Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 1:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions One big advantage to JAWS 16 is that JAWS will now scan and read PDF documents. Andy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 10:21 AM To: jul Subject: [EXTERNAL] [JAWS-Users] jaws versions is there that much difference in the jaws versions, that make jumping from one version to the next needed? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions
One big advantage to JAWS 16 is that JAWS will now scan and read PDF documents. Andy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 10:21 AM To: jul Subject: [EXTERNAL] [JAWS-Users] jaws versions is there that much difference in the jaws versions, that make jumping from one version to the next needed? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions
I can do that with jaws 12 -Original Message- From: Baracco, Andrew W Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 1:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions One big advantage to JAWS 16 is that JAWS will now scan and read PDF documents. Andy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 10:21 AM To: jul Subject: [EXTERNAL] [JAWS-Users] jaws versions is there that much difference in the jaws versions, that make jumping from one version to the next needed? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions
Not to the same extent. In previous versions you could only *preview* PDF images. Now, with 16, if the pdf is all images, they can be scanned and, often, recognized well. - Original Message - From: Tom tclar...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions I can do that with jaws 12 -Original Message- From: Baracco, Andrew W Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 1:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions One big advantage to JAWS 16 is that JAWS will now scan and read PDF documents. Andy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 10:21 AM To: jul Subject: [EXTERNAL] [JAWS-Users] jaws versions is there that much difference in the jaws versions, that make jumping from one version to the next needed? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions
well, I'm sure that's right, but since I don't scan, 12 is good. I copy/paste what pdf i open, to a word document, and save that -Original Message- From: Flor Lynch Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 5:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions Not to the same extent. In previous versions you could only *preview* PDF images. Now, with 16, if the pdf is all images, they can be scanned and, often, recognized well. - Original Message - From: Tom tclar...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions I can do that with jaws 12 -Original Message- From: Baracco, Andrew W Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 1:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions One big advantage to JAWS 16 is that JAWS will now scan and read PDF documents. Andy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 10:21 AM To: jul Subject: [EXTERNAL] [JAWS-Users] jaws versions is there that much difference in the jaws versions, that make jumping from one version to the next needed? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions
Lucky so far, I'd say. Most sighted people just don't get that there's a difference between pdf images of text and pdf text itself. And sometimes, people only have paper copies of documents which they must somehow convert to pdf's: so they scan and then convert them as they go. - Original Message - From: Tom tclar...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions well, I'm sure that's right, but since I don't scan, 12 is good. I copy/paste what pdf i open, to a word document, and save that -Original Message- From: Flor Lynch Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 5:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions Not to the same extent. In previous versions you could only *preview* PDF images. Now, with 16, if the pdf is all images, they can be scanned and, often, recognized well. - Original Message - From: Tom tclar...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions I can do that with jaws 12 -Original Message- From: Baracco, Andrew W Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 1:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions One big advantage to JAWS 16 is that JAWS will now scan and read PDF documents. Andy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 10:21 AM To: jul Subject: [EXTERNAL] [JAWS-Users] jaws versions is there that much difference in the jaws versions, that make jumping from one version to the next needed? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions
guess I don't either then. what's the difference in the 2? -Original Message- From: Flor Lynch Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 6:57 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions Lucky so far, I'd say. Most sighted people just don't get that there's a difference between pdf images of text and pdf text itself. And sometimes, people only have paper copies of documents which they must somehow convert to pdf's: so they scan and then convert them as they go. - Original Message - From: Tom tclar...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions well, I'm sure that's right, but since I don't scan, 12 is good. I copy/paste what pdf i open, to a word document, and save that -Original Message- From: Flor Lynch Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 5:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions Not to the same extent. In previous versions you could only *preview* PDF images. Now, with 16, if the pdf is all images, they can be scanned and, often, recognized well. - Original Message - From: Tom tclar...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions I can do that with jaws 12 -Original Message- From: Baracco, Andrew W Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 1:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] jaws versions One big advantage to JAWS 16 is that JAWS will now scan and read PDF documents. Andy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 10:21 AM To: jul Subject: [EXTERNAL] [JAWS-Users] jaws versions is there that much difference in the jaws versions, that make jumping from one version to the next needed? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
