Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history
Hi Brian; Thank you very much for the clarification. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Brian Lee To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 11:08 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Hi Mike, The person who asked for the information was using Windows 7. The first part of my response would be for XP or Windows 7 as the service runs in both operating systems. However, some systems start showing the icon in the notification area when the service is told to interact with the desktop, but I have noticed other systems where the icon is present In the notification area and the checkbox for interacting is not checked. The second part of my response was specific to Windows 7. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike Barbara In Arcadia Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 11:49 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Hi Brian; I forgot to ask the last time I replied to you but, are these steps for Windows7, XP, or for both? Thanks much. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Brian Lee To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Hello, Here are a couple things that you might need to do. The first thing is to allow the Microsoft antimalware service to interact with the desktop. The second thing is to set to icon to always show in the notification area. Setting the service to interact with the desktop: 1. Use Windows key and type services.msc in the search box. Wait for services to open, but you might need to use Alt+tab to move into the services window if JAWS loses focus. 2. The focus should be in the tree view structure. Press tab key to move to the list of services. 3. Press the letter M until you get to the Microsoft antimalware service. 4. Bring up the properties by using Alt+enter key or by pressing the application key and choosing properties from the menu. Focus will be in the general page of the properties. 5. Use CTRL+tab key to move to the Log on page. 6. Use tab key to find a checkbox that says allow service to interact with desktop and check it with spacebar if it is not checked. 7. Use tab key and press spacebar or enter key on the Apply button if there is one or on the OK button. 8. Close the services by using Alt+f4. The icon should show up in your notification area after doing those steps. Allowing the icon to always show in the notification area 1. Use Windows key with B to move to the notification area. If you hear notification shevron button then press spacebar. 2. Use the up arrow key to the customize menu choice and press enter key. 3. Use tab key until you hear Microsoft Security Client user interface. Use up or down arrow keys and select the choice for show icon for notifications, although, it might be the first choice. 4. Use tab key to the OK button and press spacebar to accept the choice. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of lmorris1...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 3:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Brian said If by chance you find that there is no icon in your system tray then it might be that the Microsoft anti malware service needs to be allowed to interact with your desktop. Brian that's my situation. Can you please explain how to fix this? I am using Jaws v12 and windows 7. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Brian Lee Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 11:52 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Hi Marilyn, Perhaps my description made it sound harder than it is. It is really just a matter of finding the applicable radio button, tabbing to a list of items and selecting one and reading information about it in the next box that you tab to. On my system, I had a quarantined item and some items that were found that I had deleted, so perhaps that is why they showed in the history. I am not sure that the various controls will show if there are no items in the history. If you want to just make sure that your system is being protected then go into the system tray with JAWS key and function key 11 and use down arrow key to find the icon
Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history
Hi Brian; I forgot to ask the last time I replied to you but, are these steps for Windows7, XP, or for both? Thanks much. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Brian Lee To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Hello, Here are a couple things that you might need to do. The first thing is to allow the Microsoft antimalware service to interact with the desktop. The second thing is to set to icon to always show in the notification area. Setting the service to interact with the desktop: 1. Use Windows key and type services.msc in the search box. Wait for services to open, but you might need to use Alt+tab to move into the services window if JAWS loses focus. 2. The focus should be in the tree view structure. Press tab key to move to the list of services. 3. Press the letter M until you get to the Microsoft antimalware service. 4. Bring up the properties by using Alt+enter key or by pressing the application key and choosing properties from the menu. Focus will be in the general page of the properties. 5. Use CTRL+tab key to move to the Log on page. 6. Use tab key to find a checkbox that says allow service to interact with desktop and check it with spacebar if it is not checked. 7. Use tab key and press spacebar or enter key on the Apply button if there is one or on the OK button. 8. Close the services by using Alt+f4. The icon should show up in your notification area after doing those steps. Allowing the icon to always show in the notification area 1. Use Windows key with B to move to the notification area. If you hear notification shevron button then press spacebar. 2. Use the up arrow key to the customize menu choice and press enter key. 3. Use tab key until you hear Microsoft Security Client user interface. Use up or down arrow keys and select the choice for show icon for notifications, although, it might be the first choice. 4. Use tab key to the OK button and press spacebar to accept the choice. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of lmorris1...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 3:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Brian said If by chance you find that there is no icon in your system tray then it might be that the Microsoft anti malware service needs to be allowed to interact with your desktop. Brian that's my situation. Can you please explain how to fix this? I am using Jaws v12 and windows 7. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Brian Lee Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 11:52 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Hi Marilyn, Perhaps my description made it sound harder than it is. It is really just a matter of finding the applicable radio button, tabbing to a list of items and selecting one and reading information about it in the next box that you tab to. On my system, I had a quarantined item and some items that were found that I had deleted, so perhaps that is why they showed in the history. I am not sure that the various controls will show if there are no items in the history. If you want to just make sure that your system is being protected then go into the system tray with JAWS key and function key 11 and use down arrow key to find the icon that gives the status for the antivirus protection. You should hear that your system is protected. If you hear that your system is potentially unprotected, it might be that the program wants you to do a scan. You can just tab three times and use the link that simulates a double left mouse button click to bring up the program. Choose to do a quick scan, which only takes a few minutes. When the scan finishes, go back into the notification area using insert and F11 and arrow down. You will likely find that your system is being protected. If by chance you find that there is no icon in your system tray then it might be that the Microsoft anti malware service needs to be allowed to interact with your desktop. I have had a couple systems where that was the case. Let me know if that happens to be the situation and I can give you steps for enabling the interaction. Sorry if it seemed really confusing. Sometimes, we make things harder than they really are in actuality. Take care. Brian Lee mailto:brianl...@charter.net brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Walker
Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history
Hi Mike, The person who asked for the information was using Windows 7. The first part of my response would be for XP or Windows 7 as the service runs in both operating systems. However, some systems start showing the icon in the notification area when the service is told to interact with the desktop, but I have noticed other systems where the icon is present In the notification area and the checkbox for interacting is not checked. The second part of my response was specific to Windows 7. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike Barbara In Arcadia Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 11:49 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Hi Brian; I forgot to ask the last time I replied to you but, are these steps for Windows7, XP, or for both? Thanks much. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Brian Lee To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Hello, Here are a couple things that you might need to do. The first thing is to allow the Microsoft antimalware service to interact with the desktop. The second thing is to set to icon to always show in the notification area. Setting the service to interact with the desktop: 1. Use Windows key and type services.msc in the search box. Wait for services to open, but you might need to use Alt+tab to move into the services window if JAWS loses focus. 2. The focus should be in the tree view structure. Press tab key to move to the list of services. 3. Press the letter M until you get to the Microsoft antimalware service. 4. Bring up the properties by using Alt+enter key or by pressing the application key and choosing properties from the menu. Focus will be in the general page of the properties. 5. Use CTRL+tab key to move to the Log on page. 6. Use tab key to find a checkbox that says allow service to interact with desktop and check it with spacebar if it is not checked. 7. Use tab key and press spacebar or enter key on the Apply button if there is one or on the OK button. 8. Close the services by using Alt+f4. The icon should show up in your notification area after doing those steps. Allowing the icon to always show in the notification area 1. Use Windows key with B to move to the notification area. If you hear notification shevron button then press spacebar. 2. Use the up arrow key to the customize menu choice and press enter key. 3. Use tab key until you hear Microsoft Security Client user interface. Use up or down arrow keys and select the choice for show icon for notifications, although, it might be the first choice. 4. Use tab key to the OK button and press spacebar to accept the choice. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of lmorris1...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 3:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Brian said If by chance you find that there is no icon in your system tray then it might be that the Microsoft anti malware service needs to be allowed to interact with your desktop. Brian that's my situation. Can you please explain how to fix this? I am using Jaws v12 and windows 7. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Brian Lee Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 11:52 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Hi Marilyn, Perhaps my description made it sound harder than it is. It is really just a matter of finding the applicable radio button, tabbing to a list of items and selecting one and reading information about it in the next box that you tab to. On my system, I had a quarantined item and some items that were found that I had deleted, so perhaps that is why they showed in the history. I am not sure that the various controls will show if there are no items in the history. If you want to just make sure that your system is being protected then go into the system tray with JAWS key and function key 11 and use down arrow key to find the icon that gives the status for the antivirus protection. You should hear that your system is protected. If you hear that your system is potentially unprotected, it might be that the program wants you to do a scan. You can just tab three times and use the link that simulates a double left mouse button click to bring up the program. Choose to do a quick scan, which only takes a few minutes. When the scan finishes, go back
Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history
MSSE History: 1. Open MSSE. 2. Locate the home button. Right arrow twice to the history button. Press spacebar. 3. Tab once. You will be in a group of three radio buttons. The top one is View All Items, the second one is View Quarantined and the third one is View Allowed Items. Up arrowing to the one you want will highlight it. 4. If you route Jaws to PC, you can then look at the status bar below the group of radio buttons and see whether there are any items depending on the radio button you selected. Take my advice, I don't use it anyway. Steve Lansing, MI - Original Message - From: lmorris1...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Becky and others, When you tab down once under history you get to a series of various checkbox items which you can down arrow through and read but still they are not accessible using either the spacebar, routing jaws to PC and left mouse clicking, or the enter key. So, if any of you have additional information we would love to here from you. -Original Message- From: Marilyn Walker Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 5:14 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history I can't get anywhere with the hisstory thing either so hope someone can answer our question. Marilyn - Original Message - From: lmorris1...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 1:05 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] MSE history :I wondering how to access the history area info in MSE? I entered on the history button with the spacebar but it does not do anything. : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : Send any questions regarding list management to: : jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history
this is exactly what I do and I have yet to find anything in any list, I also wonder if nothing is ever found or whether jaws is not seeing it. Graham -Original Message- From: Steve Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 10:25 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history MSSE History: 1. Open MSSE. 2. Locate the home button. Right arrow twice to the history button. Press spacebar. 3. Tab once. You will be in a group of three radio buttons. The top one is View All Items, the second one is View Quarantined and the third one is View Allowed Items. Up arrowing to the one you want will highlight it. 4. If you route Jaws to PC, you can then look at the status bar below the group of radio buttons and see whether there are any items depending on the radio button you selected. Take my advice, I don't use it anyway. Steve Lansing, MI - Original Message - From: lmorris1...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Becky and others, When you tab down once under history you get to a series of various checkbox items which you can down arrow through and read but still they are not accessible using either the spacebar, routing jaws to PC and left mouse clicking, or the enter key. So, if any of you have additional information we would love to here from you. -Original Message- From: Marilyn Walker Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 5:14 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history I can't get anywhere with the hisstory thing either so hope someone can answer our question. Marilyn - Original Message - From: lmorris1...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 1:05 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] MSE history :I wondering how to access the history area info in MSE? I entered on the history button with the spacebar but it does not do anything. : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : Send any questions regarding list management to: : jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
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Unless you have quarantined something, or unless MSSE has found something, your history will be empty. - Original Message - From: Graham Smith g.smith...@rogers.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history this is exactly what I do and I have yet to find anything in any list, I also wonder if nothing is ever found or whether jaws is not seeing it. Graham -Original Message- From: Steve Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 10:25 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history MSSE History: 1. Open MSSE. 2. Locate the home button. Right arrow twice to the history button. Press spacebar. 3. Tab once. You will be in a group of three radio buttons. The top one is View All Items, the second one is View Quarantined and the third one is View Allowed Items. Up arrowing to the one you want will highlight it. 4. If you route Jaws to PC, you can then look at the status bar below the group of radio buttons and see whether there are any items depending on the radio button you selected. Take my advice, I don't use it anyway. Steve Lansing, MI - Original Message - From: lmorris1...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Becky and others, When you tab down once under history you get to a series of various checkbox items which you can down arrow through and read but still they are not accessible using either the spacebar, routing jaws to PC and left mouse clicking, or the enter key. So, if any of you have additional information we would love to here from you. -Original Message- From: Marilyn Walker Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 5:14 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history I can't get anywhere with the hisstory thing either so hope someone can answer our question. Marilyn - Original Message - From: lmorris1...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 1:05 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] MSE history :I wondering how to access the history area info in MSE? I entered on the history button with the spacebar but it does not do anything. : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : Send any questions regarding list management to: : jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history
Brian said If by chance you find that there is no icon in your system tray then it might be that the Microsoft anti malware service needs to be allowed to interact with your desktop. Brian that's my situation. Can you please explain how to fix this? I am using Jaws v12 and windows 7. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Brian Lee Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 11:52 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Hi Marilyn, Perhaps my description made it sound harder than it is. It is really just a matter of finding the applicable radio button, tabbing to a list of items and selecting one and reading information about it in the next box that you tab to. On my system, I had a quarantined item and some items that were found that I had deleted, so perhaps that is why they showed in the history. I am not sure that the various controls will show if there are no items in the history. If you want to just make sure that your system is being protected then go into the system tray with JAWS key and function key 11 and use down arrow key to find the icon that gives the status for the antivirus protection. You should hear that your system is protected. If you hear that your system is potentially unprotected, it might be that the program wants you to do a scan. You can just tab three times and use the link that simulates a double left mouse button click to bring up the program. Choose to do a quick scan, which only takes a few minutes. When the scan finishes, go back into the notification area using insert and F11 and arrow down. You will likely find that your system is being protected. If by chance you find that there is no icon in your system tray then it might be that the Microsoft anti malware service needs to be allowed to interact with your desktop. I have had a couple systems where that was the case. Let me know if that happens to be the situation and I can give you steps for enabling the interaction. Sorry if it seemed really confusing. Sometimes, we make things harder than they really are in actuality. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Walker Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 5:53 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Mercy, Brian. This is much more than I expected and really more hassle than should be . What if we just don't do anything at all? Will we be protected? Thanks for your time and effort on this. Shame on ms for making this harder than we ever thought. marilyn- Original Message - From: Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history : Hello, : : I am using JAWS 12 with Windows 7 64-bit and an up-to-date Microsoft : Essentials program. I am able to get history information quite well. : : Although identified as buttons, the choices like home, update, history, and : others are really treated as page tabs. : The graphics are near the top of the window just under the status that says : your computer is protected. : You can use CTRL+Tab key to switch pages and eventually get to history. : You can also use tab key until you find any of the following controls and : then use right arrow key to find history: Home, update, settings, help, and : additional help. Of course, if you use tab key and find the history choice : then using right arrow is unnecessary. : After labeling, the history choice will be identified by JAWS as history, : but if you route JAWS to PC and read the current button, JAWS says : Summarize view of the items detected in previous scans and the actions that : were taken. : : If you tab from the history button, you will find a group of radio buttons. : Use up and down arrow keys, but if you choose all detected items then tab : to the list view of those items. Use down or up arrow key in the list to : review items found that the program considered malicious. With focus on an : item in the list, use tab key to move to a read-only box that gives : information about the item. In that box, such things as category, : description and recommended action are given for your review. Continue to : use down arrow in the read-only box to find a list of files associated with : the item selected in the list. Move back to the list and choose another : item. Each time an item is selected in the list, you can tab to the : read-only box that contains information about the given item. : : If you tab past the read-only box, you will find a button for deleting the : history. : : If you tab back to the group of radio buttons where you chose to view all : detected items, use down arrow key and you will find quaranteened items. : Use tab from that selection to find a list of items that the program moved : to quaranteen. Use tab to move to the read
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Brian, you didn't make anything confusing so no need to apologize. I'm perfectly able to confuse myself without help and do it all the time. Since most responders have agreed that if there's nothing in the history and no problems have occured, I must not have any problems. Actually, I was just curious. Thanks. Marilyn - Original Message - From: Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 9:52 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history : Hi Marilyn, : : Perhaps my description made it sound harder than it is. It is really just a : matter of finding the applicable radio button, tabbing to a list of items : and selecting one and reading information about it in the next box that you : tab to. On my system, I had a quarantined item and some items that were : found that I had deleted, so perhaps that is why they showed in the history. : I am not sure that the various controls will show if there are no items in : the history. : : If you want to just make sure that your system is being protected then go : into the system tray with JAWS key and function key 11 and use down arrow : key to find the icon that gives the status for the antivirus protection. : You should hear that your system is protected. If you hear that your system : is potentially unprotected, it might be that the program wants you to do a : scan. You can just tab three times and use the link that simulates a double : left mouse button click to bring up the program. Choose to do a quick scan, : which only takes a few minutes. When the scan finishes, go back into the : notification area using insert and F11 and arrow down. You will likely find : that your system is being protected. : : If by chance you find that there is no icon in your system tray then it : might be that the Microsoft anti malware service needs to be allowed to : interact with your desktop. I have had a couple systems where that was the : case. Let me know if that happens to be the situation and I can give you : steps for enabling the interaction. : : Sorry if it seemed really confusing. Sometimes, we make things harder than : they really are in actuality. : : Take care. : : Brian Lee : brianl...@charter.net : : -Original Message- : From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com : [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Walker : Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 5:53 PM : To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history : : Mercy, Brian. This is much more than I expected and really more hassle than : should be . What if we just don't do anything at all? Will we be : protected? Thanks for your time and effort on this. Shame on ms for making : this harder than we ever thought. marilyn- Original Message - : From: Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net : To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 7:28 PM : Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history : : :: Hello, :: :: I am using JAWS 12 with Windows 7 64-bit and an up-to-date Microsoft :: Essentials program. I am able to get history information quite well. :: :: Although identified as buttons, the choices like home, update, history, : and :: others are really treated as page tabs. :: The graphics are near the top of the window just under the status that : says :: your computer is protected. :: You can use CTRL+Tab key to switch pages and eventually get to history. :: You can also use tab key until you find any of the following controls and :: then use right arrow key to find history: Home, update, settings, help, : and :: additional help. Of course, if you use tab key and find the history : choice :: then using right arrow is unnecessary. :: After labeling, the history choice will be identified by JAWS as : history, :: but if you route JAWS to PC and read the current button, JAWS says :: Summarize view of the items detected in previous scans and the actions : that :: were taken. :: :: If you tab from the history button, you will find a group of radio : buttons. :: Use up and down arrow keys, but if you choose all detected items then : tab :: to the list view of those items. Use down or up arrow key in the list to :: review items found that the program considered malicious. With focus on : an :: item in the list, use tab key to move to a read-only box that gives :: information about the item. In that box, such things as category, :: description and recommended action are given for your review. Continue to :: use down arrow in the read-only box to find a list of files associated : with :: the item selected in the list. Move back to the list and choose another :: item. Each time an item is selected in the list, you can tab to the :: read-only box that contains information about the given item. :: :: If you tab past the read-only box, you will find a button for deleting the :: history. :: :: If you tab back to the group of radio buttons where
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Hello, Here are a couple things that you might need to do. The first thing is to allow the Microsoft antimalware service to interact with the desktop. The second thing is to set to icon to always show in the notification area. Setting the service to interact with the desktop: 1. Use Windows key and type services.msc in the search box. Wait for services to open, but you might need to use Alt+tab to move into the services window if JAWS loses focus. 2. The focus should be in the tree view structure. Press tab key to move to the list of services. 3. Press the letter M until you get to the Microsoft antimalware service. 4. Bring up the properties by using Alt+enter key or by pressing the application key and choosing properties from the menu. Focus will be in the general page of the properties. 5. Use CTRL+tab key to move to the Log on page. 6. Use tab key to find a checkbox that says allow service to interact with desktop and check it with spacebar if it is not checked. 7. Use tab key and press spacebar or enter key on the Apply button if there is one or on the OK button. 8. Close the services by using Alt+f4. The icon should show up in your notification area after doing those steps. Allowing the icon to always show in the notification area 1. Use Windows key with B to move to the notification area. If you hear notification shevron button then press spacebar. 2. Use the up arrow key to the customize menu choice and press enter key. 3. Use tab key until you hear Microsoft Security Client user interface. Use up or down arrow keys and select the choice for show icon for notifications, although, it might be the first choice. 4. Use tab key to the OK button and press spacebar to accept the choice. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of lmorris1...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 3:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Brian said If by chance you find that there is no icon in your system tray then it might be that the Microsoft anti malware service needs to be allowed to interact with your desktop. Brian that's my situation. Can you please explain how to fix this? I am using Jaws v12 and windows 7. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Brian Lee Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 11:52 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Hi Marilyn, Perhaps my description made it sound harder than it is. It is really just a matter of finding the applicable radio button, tabbing to a list of items and selecting one and reading information about it in the next box that you tab to. On my system, I had a quarantined item and some items that were found that I had deleted, so perhaps that is why they showed in the history. I am not sure that the various controls will show if there are no items in the history. If you want to just make sure that your system is being protected then go into the system tray with JAWS key and function key 11 and use down arrow key to find the icon that gives the status for the antivirus protection. You should hear that your system is protected. If you hear that your system is potentially unprotected, it might be that the program wants you to do a scan. You can just tab three times and use the link that simulates a double left mouse button click to bring up the program. Choose to do a quick scan, which only takes a few minutes. When the scan finishes, go back into the notification area using insert and F11 and arrow down. You will likely find that your system is being protected. If by chance you find that there is no icon in your system tray then it might be that the Microsoft anti malware service needs to be allowed to interact with your desktop. I have had a couple systems where that was the case. Let me know if that happens to be the situation and I can give you steps for enabling the interaction. Sorry if it seemed really confusing. Sometimes, we make things harder than they really are in actuality. Take care. Brian Lee mailto:brianl...@charter.net brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Walker Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 5:53 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Mercy, Brian. This is much more than I expected and really more hassle than should be . What if we just don't do anything at all? Will we be protected? Thanks for your time and effort on this. Shame on ms for making this harder than we ever thought. marilyn- Original Message - From: Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net To: jaws-users
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If you mean having mse in the system tray, I do have it and only occasionally has it told me I was unprotected. So, guess I will not try to break something that isn't broken. Marilyn - Original Message - From: Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history : Hello, : : : : Here are a couple things that you might need to do. : : : : The first thing is to allow the Microsoft antimalware service to interact : with the desktop. The second thing is to set to icon to always show in the : notification area. : : : : : Setting the service to interact with the desktop: : : : : : 1. Use Windows key and type services.msc in the search box. Wait for : services to open, but you might need to use Alt+tab to move into the : services window if JAWS loses focus. : : 2. The focus should be in the tree view structure. Press tab key to : move to the list of services. : : 3. Press the letter M until you get to the Microsoft antimalware : service. : : 4. Bring up the properties by using Alt+enter key or by pressing the : application key and choosing properties from the menu. Focus will be in the : general page of the properties. : : 5. Use CTRL+tab key to move to the Log on page. : : 6. Use tab key to find a checkbox that says allow service to interact : with desktop and check it with spacebar if it is not checked. : : 7. Use tab key and press spacebar or enter key on the Apply button if : there is one or on the OK button. : : 8. Close the services by using Alt+f4. : : : : The icon should show up in your notification area after doing those steps. : : : : : Allowing the icon to always show in the notification area : : : : : 1. Use Windows key with B to move to the notification area. If you : hear notification shevron button then press spacebar. : : 2. Use the up arrow key to the customize menu choice and press enter : key. : : 3. Use tab key until you hear Microsoft Security Client user : interface. Use up or down arrow keys and select the choice for show icon : for notifications, although, it might be the first choice. : : 4. Use tab key to the OK button and press spacebar to accept the : choice. : : : : Take care. : : : : Brian Lee : : brianl...@charter.net : : : : -Original Message- : From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com : [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of : lmorris1...@gmail.com : Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 3:58 PM : To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history : : : : Brian said If by chance you find that there is no icon in your system tray : then it might be that the Microsoft anti malware service needs to be allowed : to interact with your desktop. Brian that's my situation. Can you please : explain how to fix this? I am using Jaws v12 and windows 7. Thanks. : : : : -Original Message- : : From: Brian Lee : : Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 11:52 AM : : To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : : Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history : : : : Hi Marilyn, : : : : Perhaps my description made it sound harder than it is. It is really just a : matter of finding the applicable radio button, tabbing to a list of items : and selecting one and reading information about it in the next box that you : tab to. On my system, I had a quarantined item and some items that were : found that I had deleted, so perhaps that is why they showed in the history. : : I am not sure that the various controls will show if there are no items in : the history. : : : : If you want to just make sure that your system is being protected then go : into the system tray with JAWS key and function key 11 and use down arrow : key to find the icon that gives the status for the antivirus protection. : : You should hear that your system is protected. If you hear that your system : is potentially unprotected, it might be that the program wants you to do a : scan. You can just tab three times and use the link that simulates a double : left mouse button click to bring up the program. Choose to do a quick scan, : which only takes a few minutes. When the scan finishes, go back into the : notification area using insert and F11 and arrow down. You will likely find : that your system is being protected. : : : : If by chance you find that there is no icon in your system tray then it : might be that the Microsoft anti malware service needs to be allowed to : interact with your desktop. I have had a couple systems where that was the : case. Let me know if that happens to be the situation and I can give you : steps for enabling the interaction. : : : : Sorry if it seemed really confusing. Sometimes, we make things harder than : they really are in actuality. : : : : Take care. : : : : Brian Lee : : mailto:brianl...@charter.net brianl...@charter.net : : : : -Original Message
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Hi Brian; Is Microsoft antimalware service Malware Bytes AntiMalware the same thing, if not what is the difference between the 2? Your advice / explanation will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Brian Lee To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Hello, Here are a couple things that you might need to do. The first thing is to allow the Microsoft antimalware service to interact with the desktop. The second thing is to set to icon to always show in the notification area. Setting the service to interact with the desktop: 1. Use Windows key and type services.msc in the search box. Wait for services to open, but you might need to use Alt+tab to move into the services window if JAWS loses focus. 2. The focus should be in the tree view structure. Press tab key to move to the list of services. 3. Press the letter M until you get to the Microsoft antimalware service. 4. Bring up the properties by using Alt+enter key or by pressing the application key and choosing properties from the menu. Focus will be in the general page of the properties. 5. Use CTRL+tab key to move to the Log on page. 6. Use tab key to find a checkbox that says allow service to interact with desktop and check it with spacebar if it is not checked. 7. Use tab key and press spacebar or enter key on the Apply button if there is one or on the OK button. 8. Close the services by using Alt+f4. The icon should show up in your notification area after doing those steps. Allowing the icon to always show in the notification area 1. Use Windows key with B to move to the notification area. If you hear notification shevron button then press spacebar. 2. Use the up arrow key to the customize menu choice and press enter key. 3. Use tab key until you hear Microsoft Security Client user interface. Use up or down arrow keys and select the choice for show icon for notifications, although, it might be the first choice. 4. Use tab key to the OK button and press spacebar to accept the choice. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of lmorris1...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 3:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Brian said If by chance you find that there is no icon in your system tray then it might be that the Microsoft anti malware service needs to be allowed to interact with your desktop. Brian that's my situation. Can you please explain how to fix this? I am using Jaws v12 and windows 7. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Brian Lee Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 11:52 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Hi Marilyn, Perhaps my description made it sound harder than it is. It is really just a matter of finding the applicable radio button, tabbing to a list of items and selecting one and reading information about it in the next box that you tab to. On my system, I had a quarantined item and some items that were found that I had deleted, so perhaps that is why they showed in the history. I am not sure that the various controls will show if there are no items in the history. If you want to just make sure that your system is being protected then go into the system tray with JAWS key and function key 11 and use down arrow key to find the icon that gives the status for the antivirus protection. You should hear that your system is protected. If you hear that your system is potentially unprotected, it might be that the program wants you to do a scan. You can just tab three times and use the link that simulates a double left mouse button click to bring up the program. Choose to do a quick scan, which only takes a few minutes. When the scan finishes, go back into the notification area using insert and F11 and arrow down. You will likely find that your system is being protected. If by chance you find that there is no icon in your system tray then it might be that the Microsoft anti malware service needs to be allowed to interact with your desktop. I have had a couple systems where that was the case. Let me know if that happens to be the situation and I can give you steps for enabling the interaction. Sorry if it seemed really confusing. Sometimes, we make things harder than they really are in actuality. Take care. Brian Lee mailto:brianl...@charter.net brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
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I can't do anything with it either. - Original Message - From: Marilyn Walker mlw1...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Becky, tabbing doesn't do anything with history nor does going to the file menu where you get only system. marilyn - Original Message - From: Becky B. reb...@nc.rr.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history : Once you are on History, try tabbing. : : - Original Message - : From: lmorris1...@gmail.com : To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 2:05 PM : Subject: [JAWS-Users] MSE history : : : I wondering how to access the history area info in MSE? I entered on the : history button with the spacebar but it does not do anything. : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : Send any questions regarding list management to: : jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com : : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : Send any questions regarding list management to: : jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
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thanks, that was very helpful. - Original Message - From: Steve k...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history MSSE History: 1. Open MSSE. 2. Locate the home button. Right arrow twice to the history button. Press spacebar. 3. Tab once. You will be in a group of three radio buttons. The top one is View All Items, the second one is View Quarantined and the third one is View Allowed Items. Up arrowing to the one you want will highlight it. 4. If you route Jaws to PC, you can then look at the status bar below the group of radio buttons and see whether there are any items depending on the radio button you selected. Take my advice, I don't use it anyway. Steve Lansing, MI - Original Message - From: lmorris1...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Becky and others, When you tab down once under history you get to a series of various checkbox items which you can down arrow through and read but still they are not accessible using either the spacebar, routing jaws to PC and left mouse clicking, or the enter key. So, if any of you have additional information we would love to here from you. -Original Message- From: Marilyn Walker Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 5:14 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history I can't get anywhere with the hisstory thing either so hope someone can answer our question. Marilyn - Original Message - From: lmorris1...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 1:05 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] MSE history :I wondering how to access the history area info in MSE? I entered on the history button with the spacebar but it does not do anything. : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : Send any questions regarding list management to: : jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
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Hi Mike, The Microsoft Antimalware service is the real-time protection or back end service of Microsoft Security Essentials. It use to be part of Windows Defender, which is turned off when Microsoft Security Essentials is installed but the service is still used by the latter. MSSECES.EXE is the executable for the user interface or front end of Microsoft Security Essentials. Although the Microsoft antimalware service was used by Windows Defender, it is now the service for Microsoft Essentials which includes antivirus protection. Malwarebytes antimalware is a program developed by Malwarebytes Corporation used for protection against various kinds of spyware and other malicious code but it is not an antivirus program. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike Barbara In Arcadia Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 6:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Hi Brian; Is Microsoft antimalware service Malware Bytes AntiMalware the same thing, if not what is the difference between the 2? Your advice / explanation will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Brian Lee To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Hello, Here are a couple things that you might need to do. The first thing is to allow the Microsoft antimalware service to interact with the desktop. The second thing is to set to icon to always show in the notification area. Setting the service to interact with the desktop: 1. Use Windows key and type services.msc in the search box. Wait for services to open, but you might need to use Alt+tab to move into the services window if JAWS loses focus. 2. The focus should be in the tree view structure. Press tab key to move to the list of services. 3. Press the letter M until you get to the Microsoft antimalware service. 4. Bring up the properties by using Alt+enter key or by pressing the application key and choosing properties from the menu. Focus will be in the general page of the properties. 5. Use CTRL+tab key to move to the Log on page. 6. Use tab key to find a checkbox that says allow service to interact with desktop and check it with spacebar if it is not checked. 7. Use tab key and press spacebar or enter key on the Apply button if there is one or on the OK button. 8. Close the services by using Alt+f4. The icon should show up in your notification area after doing those steps. Allowing the icon to always show in the notification area 1. Use Windows key with B to move to the notification area. If you hear notification shevron button then press spacebar. 2. Use the up arrow key to the customize menu choice and press enter key. 3. Use tab key until you hear Microsoft Security Client user interface. Use up or down arrow keys and select the choice for show icon for notifications, although, it might be the first choice. 4. Use tab key to the OK button and press spacebar to accept the choice. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of lmorris1...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 3:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Brian said If by chance you find that there is no icon in your system tray then it might be that the Microsoft anti malware service needs to be allowed to interact with your desktop. Brian that's my situation. Can you please explain how to fix this? I am using Jaws v12 and windows 7. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Brian Lee Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 11:52 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Hi Marilyn, Perhaps my description made it sound harder than it is. It is really just a matter of finding the applicable radio button, tabbing to a list of items and selecting one and reading information about it in the next box that you tab to. On my system, I had a quarantined item and some items that were found that I had deleted, so perhaps that is why they showed in the history. I am not sure that the various controls will show if there are no items in the history. If you want to just make sure that your system is being protected then go into the system tray with JAWS key and function key 11 and use down arrow key to find the icon that gives the status for the antivirus protection. You should hear that your system is protected. If you hear that your system
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Hi Brian; Thank you very much for the clarafication / explanation. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Brian Lee To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Hi Mike, The Microsoft Antimalware service is the real-time protection or back end service of Microsoft Security Essentials. It use to be part of Windows Defender, which is turned off when Microsoft Security Essentials is installed but the service is still used by the latter. MSSECES.EXE is the executable for the user interface or front end of Microsoft Security Essentials. Although the Microsoft antimalware service was used by Windows Defender, it is now the service for Microsoft Essentials which includes antivirus protection. Malwarebytes antimalware is a program developed by Malwarebytes Corporation used for protection against various kinds of spyware and other malicious code but it is not an antivirus program. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike Barbara In Arcadia Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 6:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Hi Brian; Is Microsoft antimalware service Malware Bytes AntiMalware the same thing, if not what is the difference between the 2? Your advice / explanation will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Brian Lee To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Hello, Here are a couple things that you might need to do. The first thing is to allow the Microsoft antimalware service to interact with the desktop. The second thing is to set to icon to always show in the notification area. Setting the service to interact with the desktop: 1. Use Windows key and type services.msc in the search box. Wait for services to open, but you might need to use Alt+tab to move into the services window if JAWS loses focus. 2. The focus should be in the tree view structure. Press tab key to move to the list of services. 3. Press the letter M until you get to the Microsoft antimalware service. 4. Bring up the properties by using Alt+enter key or by pressing the application key and choosing properties from the menu. Focus will be in the general page of the properties. 5. Use CTRL+tab key to move to the Log on page. 6. Use tab key to find a checkbox that says allow service to interact with desktop and check it with spacebar if it is not checked. 7. Use tab key and press spacebar or enter key on the Apply button if there is one or on the OK button. 8. Close the services by using Alt+f4. The icon should show up in your notification area after doing those steps. Allowing the icon to always show in the notification area 1. Use Windows key with B to move to the notification area. If you hear notification shevron button then press spacebar. 2. Use the up arrow key to the customize menu choice and press enter key. 3. Use tab key until you hear Microsoft Security Client user interface. Use up or down arrow keys and select the choice for show icon for notifications, although, it might be the first choice. 4. Use tab key to the OK button and press spacebar to accept the choice. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of lmorris1...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 3:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Brian said If by chance you find that there is no icon in your system tray then it might be that the Microsoft anti malware service needs to be allowed to interact with your desktop. Brian that's my situation. Can you please explain how to fix this? I am using Jaws v12 and windows 7. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Brian Lee Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 11:52 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Hi Marilyn, Perhaps my description made it sound harder than it is. It is really just a matter of finding the applicable radio button, tabbing to a list of items and selecting one and reading information about it in the next box that you tab to. On my system, I had a quarantined item and some items that were found that I had deleted, so
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Once you are on History, try tabbing. - Original Message - From: lmorris1...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 2:05 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] MSE history I wondering how to access the history area info in MSE? I entered on the history button with the spacebar but it does not do anything. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
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I can't get anywhere with the hisstory thing either so hope someone can answer our question. Marilyn - Original Message - From: lmorris1...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 1:05 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] MSE history :I wondering how to access the history area info in MSE? I entered on the history button with the spacebar but it does not do anything. : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : Send any questions regarding list management to: : jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
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Becky, tabbing doesn't do anything with history nor does going to the file menu where you get only system. marilyn - Original Message - From: Becky B. reb...@nc.rr.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history : Once you are on History, try tabbing. : : - Original Message - : From: lmorris1...@gmail.com : To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 2:05 PM : Subject: [JAWS-Users] MSE history : : : I wondering how to access the history area info in MSE? I entered on the : history button with the spacebar but it does not do anything. : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : Send any questions regarding list management to: : jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com : : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : Send any questions regarding list management to: : jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
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How about routing jaws to pc and reading down the page from the top? -- Never let your reality become an excuse -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Walker Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 1:15 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Becky, tabbing doesn't do anything with history nor does going to the file menu where you get only system. marilyn - Original Message - From: Becky B. reb...@nc.rr.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history : Once you are on History, try tabbing. : : - Original Message - : From: lmorris1...@gmail.com : To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 2:05 PM : Subject: [JAWS-Users] MSE history : : : I wondering how to access the history area info in MSE? I entered on the : history button with the spacebar but it does not do anything. : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : Send any questions regarding list management to: : jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com : : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : Send any questions regarding list management to: : jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
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THat doesn't work either. marilyn - Original Message - From: kimsan song kimsans...@aol.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history : How about routing jaws to pc and reading down the page from the top? : : -- : Never let your reality become an excuse : : : -Original Message- : From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com : [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Walker : Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 1:15 PM : To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history : : Becky, tabbing doesn't do anything with history nor does going to the file : menu where you get only system. marilyn : - Original Message - : From: Becky B. reb...@nc.rr.com : To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 3:04 PM : Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history : : :: Once you are on History, try tabbing. :: :: - Original Message - :: From: lmorris1...@gmail.com :: To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com :: Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 2:05 PM :: Subject: [JAWS-Users] MSE history :: :: :: I wondering how to access the history area info in MSE? I entered on the :: history button with the spacebar but it does not do anything. :: For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: :: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ :: Send any questions regarding list management to: :: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com :: :: :: For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: :: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ :: Send any questions regarding list management to: :: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com : : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : Send any questions regarding list management to: : jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com : : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : Send any questions regarding list management to: : jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
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Never mind that jaws to pc thing. I just tried it and presented more confusion, so a smart fella will have to chime in and help! -- Never let your reality become an excuse -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of kimsan song Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 1:21 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history How about routing jaws to pc and reading down the page from the top? -- Never let your reality become an excuse -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Walker Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 1:15 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Becky, tabbing doesn't do anything with history nor does going to the file menu where you get only system. marilyn - Original Message - From: Becky B. reb...@nc.rr.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history : Once you are on History, try tabbing. : : - Original Message - : From: lmorris1...@gmail.com : To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 2:05 PM : Subject: [JAWS-Users] MSE history : : : I wondering how to access the history area info in MSE? I entered on the : history button with the spacebar but it does not do anything. : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : Send any questions regarding list management to: : jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com : : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : Send any questions regarding list management to: : jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
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Becky and others, When you tab down once under history you get to a series of various checkbox items which you can down arrow through and read but still they are not accessible using either the spacebar, routing jaws to PC and left mouse clicking, or the enter key. So, if any of you have additional information we would love to here from you. -Original Message- From: Marilyn Walker Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 5:14 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history I can't get anywhere with the hisstory thing either so hope someone can answer our question. Marilyn - Original Message - From: lmorris1...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 1:05 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] MSE history :I wondering how to access the history area info in MSE? I entered on the history button with the spacebar but it does not do anything. : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : Send any questions regarding list management to: : jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
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Hi. I'm using JAWS 10, so the following may not work exactly depending on the JAWS version. You may not see anything because MSE doesn't show anything in the history unless MSE detects something. I tab to history, press enter and then tab again. JAWS says View the list of following items that Security essentials detected as potentially harmful. My version of JAWS doesn't show this, but there's a list of check boxes for buttons. The choices are: All detected items, Quarantined items, and allowed items. Use the down arrow to read and select the option; it's checked automatically as soon as it's arrowed to. this is when I route JAWS to PC. There's a table listing the item, the recommended action and the alert level. The list you get would depend on which option you check and what, if anything MSE found. It's been a while since I've had any items listed, but I believe you route JAWS to PC and then left click on the item. Either that or you click on the detected item column in the table I mentioned above. HTh Lisa For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
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Hello, I am using JAWS 12 with Windows 7 64-bit and an up-to-date Microsoft Essentials program. I am able to get history information quite well. Although identified as buttons, the choices like home, update, history, and others are really treated as page tabs. The graphics are near the top of the window just under the status that says your computer is protected. You can use CTRL+Tab key to switch pages and eventually get to history. You can also use tab key until you find any of the following controls and then use right arrow key to find history: Home, update, settings, help, and additional help. Of course, if you use tab key and find the history choice then using right arrow is unnecessary. After labeling, the history choice will be identified by JAWS as history, but if you route JAWS to PC and read the current button, JAWS says Summarize view of the items detected in previous scans and the actions that were taken. If you tab from the history button, you will find a group of radio buttons. Use up and down arrow keys, but if you choose all detected items then tab to the list view of those items. Use down or up arrow key in the list to review items found that the program considered malicious. With focus on an item in the list, use tab key to move to a read-only box that gives information about the item. In that box, such things as category, description and recommended action are given for your review. Continue to use down arrow in the read-only box to find a list of files associated with the item selected in the list. Move back to the list and choose another item. Each time an item is selected in the list, you can tab to the read-only box that contains information about the given item. If you tab past the read-only box, you will find a button for deleting the history. If you tab back to the group of radio buttons where you chose to view all detected items, use down arrow key and you will find quaranteened items. Use tab from that selection to find a list of items that the program moved to quaranteen. Use tab to move to the read-only box for information about the item you select in the list. use tab to move to the Remove all button. Use tab key to move back to the group of radio buttons and use down arrow to find allowed items. If you have allowed any then tab to the list of items you allowed. If you move back to the radio buttons group and use down arrow from the choice for viewing allowed items, the next three times you use down arrow you will basically get a description of what each of the first three items did. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of lmorris1...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 3:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Becky and others, When you tab down once under history you get to a series of various checkbox items which you can down arrow through and read but still they are not accessible using either the spacebar, routing jaws to PC and left mouse clicking, or the enter key. So, if any of you have additional information we would love to here from you. -Original Message- From: Marilyn Walker Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 5:14 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history I can't get anywhere with the hisstory thing either so hope someone can answer our question. Marilyn - Original Message - From: lmorris1...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 1:05 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] MSE history :I wondering how to access the history area info in MSE? I entered on the history button with the spacebar but it does not do anything. : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : Send any questions regarding list management to: : jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com
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Well put! Thanks. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lee Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 5:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Hello, I am using JAWS 12 with Windows 7 64-bit and an up-to-date Microsoft Essentials program. I am able to get history information quite well. Although identified as buttons, the choices like home, update, history, and others are really treated as page tabs. The graphics are near the top of the window just under the status that says your computer is protected. You can use CTRL+Tab key to switch pages and eventually get to history. You can also use tab key until you find any of the following controls and then use right arrow key to find history: Home, update, settings, help, and additional help. Of course, if you use tab key and find the history choice then using right arrow is unnecessary. After labeling, the history choice will be identified by JAWS as history, but if you route JAWS to PC and read the current button, JAWS says Summarize view of the items detected in previous scans and the actions that were taken. If you tab from the history button, you will find a group of radio buttons. Use up and down arrow keys, but if you choose all detected items then tab to the list view of those items. Use down or up arrow key in the list to review items found that the program considered malicious. With focus on an item in the list, use tab key to move to a read-only box that gives information about the item. In that box, such things as category, description and recommended action are given for your review. Continue to use down arrow in the read-only box to find a list of files associated with the item selected in the list. Move back to the list and choose another item. Each time an item is selected in the list, you can tab to the read-only box that contains information about the given item. If you tab past the read-only box, you will find a button for deleting the history. If you tab back to the group of radio buttons where you chose to view all detected items, use down arrow key and you will find quaranteened items. Use tab from that selection to find a list of items that the program moved to quaranteen. Use tab to move to the read-only box for information about the item you select in the list. use tab to move to the Remove all button. Use tab key to move back to the group of radio buttons and use down arrow to find allowed items. If you have allowed any then tab to the list of items you allowed. If you move back to the radio buttons group and use down arrow from the choice for viewing allowed items, the next three times you use down arrow you will basically get a description of what each of the first three items did. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of lmorris1...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 3:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Becky and others, When you tab down once under history you get to a series of various checkbox items which you can down arrow through and read but still they are not accessible using either the spacebar, routing jaws to PC and left mouse clicking, or the enter key. So, if any of you have additional information we would love to here from you. -Original Message- From: Marilyn Walker Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 5:14 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history I can't get anywhere with the hisstory thing either so hope someone can answer our question. Marilyn - Original Message - From: lmorris1...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 1:05 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] MSE history :I wondering how to access the history area info in MSE? I entered on the history button with the spacebar but it does not do anything. : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : Send any questions regarding list management to: : jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list
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Mercy, Brian. This is much more than I expected and really more hassle than should be . What if we just don't do anything at all? Will we be protected? Thanks for your time and effort on this. Shame on ms for making this harder than we ever thought. marilyn- Original Message - From: Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history : Hello, : : I am using JAWS 12 with Windows 7 64-bit and an up-to-date Microsoft : Essentials program. I am able to get history information quite well. : : Although identified as buttons, the choices like home, update, history, and : others are really treated as page tabs. : The graphics are near the top of the window just under the status that says : your computer is protected. : You can use CTRL+Tab key to switch pages and eventually get to history. : You can also use tab key until you find any of the following controls and : then use right arrow key to find history: Home, update, settings, help, and : additional help. Of course, if you use tab key and find the history choice : then using right arrow is unnecessary. : After labeling, the history choice will be identified by JAWS as history, : but if you route JAWS to PC and read the current button, JAWS says : Summarize view of the items detected in previous scans and the actions that : were taken. : : If you tab from the history button, you will find a group of radio buttons. : Use up and down arrow keys, but if you choose all detected items then tab : to the list view of those items. Use down or up arrow key in the list to : review items found that the program considered malicious. With focus on an : item in the list, use tab key to move to a read-only box that gives : information about the item. In that box, such things as category, : description and recommended action are given for your review. Continue to : use down arrow in the read-only box to find a list of files associated with : the item selected in the list. Move back to the list and choose another : item. Each time an item is selected in the list, you can tab to the : read-only box that contains information about the given item. : : If you tab past the read-only box, you will find a button for deleting the : history. : : If you tab back to the group of radio buttons where you chose to view all : detected items, use down arrow key and you will find quaranteened items. : Use tab from that selection to find a list of items that the program moved : to quaranteen. Use tab to move to the read-only box for information about : the item you select in the list. use tab to move to the Remove all : button. : : Use tab key to move back to the group of radio buttons and use down arrow to : find allowed items. If you have allowed any then tab to the list of items : you allowed. If you move back to the radio buttons group and use down arrow : from the choice for viewing allowed items, the next three times you use down : arrow you will basically get a description of what each of the first three : items did. : : Take care. : : Brian Lee : brianl...@charter.net : : -Original Message- : From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com : [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of : lmorris1...@gmail.com : Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 3:32 PM : To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history : : Becky and others, : : When you tab down once under history you get to a series of various checkbox : items which you can down arrow through and read but still they are not : accessible using either the spacebar, routing jaws to PC and left mouse : clicking, or the enter key. So, if any of you have additional information we : would love to here from you. : : -Original Message- : From: Marilyn Walker : Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 5:14 AM : To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history : : I can't get anywhere with the hisstory thing either so hope someone can : answer our question. Marilyn : - Original Message - : From: lmorris1...@gmail.com : To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 1:05 PM : Subject: [JAWS-Users] MSE history : : ::I wondering how to access the history area info in MSE? I entered on the : history button with the spacebar but it does not do anything. :: For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: :: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ :: Send any questions regarding list management to: :: jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com : : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : Send any questions regarding list management to: : jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com : : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : Send any questions regarding list management to: : jaws-users
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Hmm, Brian, I've been running MSE since last August and I've kept the default scanning time of 2 Am on Sunday. I don't see any allowed items or quarantined items. The last time I even saw anything it quarantined was back in December. I know it's scanning and updating the definitions, so should there be something listed under allowed or quarantined items, or is my inability to find them due to my using an older version of JAWS? Forget about great wealth, fame and being physically fit. Just give me lots of chocolate and blissful ignorance and leave me alone. Lisa Belville missktlab1...@frontier.com - Original Message - From: Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Hello, I am using JAWS 12 with Windows 7 64-bit and an up-to-date Microsoft Essentials program. I am able to get history information quite well. Although identified as buttons, the choices like home, update, history, and others are really treated as page tabs. The graphics are near the top of the window just under the status that says your computer is protected. You can use CTRL+Tab key to switch pages and eventually get to history. You can also use tab key until you find any of the following controls and then use right arrow key to find history: Home, update, settings, help, and additional help. Of course, if you use tab key and find the history choice then using right arrow is unnecessary. After labeling, the history choice will be identified by JAWS as history, but if you route JAWS to PC and read the current button, JAWS says Summarize view of the items detected in previous scans and the actions that were taken. If you tab from the history button, you will find a group of radio buttons. Use up and down arrow keys, but if you choose all detected items then tab to the list view of those items. Use down or up arrow key in the list to review items found that the program considered malicious. With focus on an item in the list, use tab key to move to a read-only box that gives information about the item. In that box, such things as category, description and recommended action are given for your review. Continue to use down arrow in the read-only box to find a list of files associated with the item selected in the list. Move back to the list and choose another item. Each time an item is selected in the list, you can tab to the read-only box that contains information about the given item. If you tab past the read-only box, you will find a button for deleting the history. If you tab back to the group of radio buttons where you chose to view all detected items, use down arrow key and you will find quaranteened items. Use tab from that selection to find a list of items that the program moved to quaranteen. Use tab to move to the read-only box for information about the item you select in the list. use tab to move to the Remove all button. Use tab key to move back to the group of radio buttons and use down arrow to find allowed items. If you have allowed any then tab to the list of items you allowed. If you move back to the radio buttons group and use down arrow from the choice for viewing allowed items, the next three times you use down arrow you will basically get a description of what each of the first three items did. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of lmorris1...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 3:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Becky and others, When you tab down once under history you get to a series of various checkbox items which you can down arrow through and read but still they are not accessible using either the spacebar, routing jaws to PC and left mouse clicking, or the enter key. So, if any of you have additional information we would love to here from you. -Original Message- From: Marilyn Walker Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 5:14 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history I can't get anywhere with the hisstory thing either so hope someone can answer our question. Marilyn - Original Message - From: lmorris1...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 1:05 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] MSE history :I wondering how to access the history area info in MSE? I entered on the history button with the spacebar but it does not do anything. : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : Send any questions regarding list management to: : jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Send any questions regarding list management to: jaws-users
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I too have been using MSE and I have been curious to know about things but have been shy to ask. Michelle - Original Message - From: Lisa belville missktlab1...@frontier.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Hmm, Brian, I've been running MSE since last August and I've kept the default scanning time of 2 Am on Sunday. I don't see any allowed items or quarantined items. The last time I even saw anything it quarantined was back in December. I know it's scanning and updating the definitions, so should there be something listed under allowed or quarantined items, or is my inability to find them due to my using an older version of JAWS? Forget about great wealth, fame and being physically fit. Just give me lots of chocolate and blissful ignorance and leave me alone. Lisa Belville missktlab1...@frontier.com - Original Message - From: Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Hello, I am using JAWS 12 with Windows 7 64-bit and an up-to-date Microsoft Essentials program. I am able to get history information quite well. Although identified as buttons, the choices like home, update, history, and others are really treated as page tabs. The graphics are near the top of the window just under the status that says your computer is protected. You can use CTRL+Tab key to switch pages and eventually get to history. You can also use tab key until you find any of the following controls and then use right arrow key to find history: Home, update, settings, help, and additional help. Of course, if you use tab key and find the history choice then using right arrow is unnecessary. After labeling, the history choice will be identified by JAWS as history, but if you route JAWS to PC and read the current button, JAWS says Summarize view of the items detected in previous scans and the actions that were taken. If you tab from the history button, you will find a group of radio buttons. Use up and down arrow keys, but if you choose all detected items then tab to the list view of those items. Use down or up arrow key in the list to review items found that the program considered malicious. With focus on an item in the list, use tab key to move to a read-only box that gives information about the item. In that box, such things as category, description and recommended action are given for your review. Continue to use down arrow in the read-only box to find a list of files associated with the item selected in the list. Move back to the list and choose another item. Each time an item is selected in the list, you can tab to the read-only box that contains information about the given item. If you tab past the read-only box, you will find a button for deleting the history. If you tab back to the group of radio buttons where you chose to view all detected items, use down arrow key and you will find quaranteened items. Use tab from that selection to find a list of items that the program moved to quaranteen. Use tab to move to the read-only box for information about the item you select in the list. use tab to move to the Remove all button. Use tab key to move back to the group of radio buttons and use down arrow to find allowed items. If you have allowed any then tab to the list of items you allowed. If you move back to the radio buttons group and use down arrow from the choice for viewing allowed items, the next three times you use down arrow you will basically get a description of what each of the first three items did. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of lmorris1...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 3:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Becky and others, When you tab down once under history you get to a series of various checkbox items which you can down arrow through and read but still they are not accessible using either the spacebar, routing jaws to PC and left mouse clicking, or the enter key. So, if any of you have additional information we would love to here from you. -Original Message- From: Marilyn Walker Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 5:14 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history I can't get anywhere with the hisstory thing either so hope someone can answer our question. Marilyn - Original Message - From: lmorris1...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 1:05 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] MSE history :I wondering how to access the history area info in MSE? I entered on the history button with the spacebar but it does not do anything. : For answers to frequently asked
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Hi Marilyn, Perhaps my description made it sound harder than it is. It is really just a matter of finding the applicable radio button, tabbing to a list of items and selecting one and reading information about it in the next box that you tab to. On my system, I had a quarantined item and some items that were found that I had deleted, so perhaps that is why they showed in the history. I am not sure that the various controls will show if there are no items in the history. If you want to just make sure that your system is being protected then go into the system tray with JAWS key and function key 11 and use down arrow key to find the icon that gives the status for the antivirus protection. You should hear that your system is protected. If you hear that your system is potentially unprotected, it might be that the program wants you to do a scan. You can just tab three times and use the link that simulates a double left mouse button click to bring up the program. Choose to do a quick scan, which only takes a few minutes. When the scan finishes, go back into the notification area using insert and F11 and arrow down. You will likely find that your system is being protected. If by chance you find that there is no icon in your system tray then it might be that the Microsoft anti malware service needs to be allowed to interact with your desktop. I have had a couple systems where that was the case. Let me know if that happens to be the situation and I can give you steps for enabling the interaction. Sorry if it seemed really confusing. Sometimes, we make things harder than they really are in actuality. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Walker Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 5:53 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Mercy, Brian. This is much more than I expected and really more hassle than should be . What if we just don't do anything at all? Will we be protected? Thanks for your time and effort on this. Shame on ms for making this harder than we ever thought. marilyn- Original Message - From: Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history : Hello, : : I am using JAWS 12 with Windows 7 64-bit and an up-to-date Microsoft : Essentials program. I am able to get history information quite well. : : Although identified as buttons, the choices like home, update, history, and : others are really treated as page tabs. : The graphics are near the top of the window just under the status that says : your computer is protected. : You can use CTRL+Tab key to switch pages and eventually get to history. : You can also use tab key until you find any of the following controls and : then use right arrow key to find history: Home, update, settings, help, and : additional help. Of course, if you use tab key and find the history choice : then using right arrow is unnecessary. : After labeling, the history choice will be identified by JAWS as history, : but if you route JAWS to PC and read the current button, JAWS says : Summarize view of the items detected in previous scans and the actions that : were taken. : : If you tab from the history button, you will find a group of radio buttons. : Use up and down arrow keys, but if you choose all detected items then tab : to the list view of those items. Use down or up arrow key in the list to : review items found that the program considered malicious. With focus on an : item in the list, use tab key to move to a read-only box that gives : information about the item. In that box, such things as category, : description and recommended action are given for your review. Continue to : use down arrow in the read-only box to find a list of files associated with : the item selected in the list. Move back to the list and choose another : item. Each time an item is selected in the list, you can tab to the : read-only box that contains information about the given item. : : If you tab past the read-only box, you will find a button for deleting the : history. : : If you tab back to the group of radio buttons where you chose to view all : detected items, use down arrow key and you will find quaranteened items. : Use tab from that selection to find a list of items that the program moved : to quaranteen. Use tab to move to the read-only box for information about : the item you select in the list. use tab to move to the Remove all : button. : : Use tab key to move back to the group of radio buttons and use down arrow to : find allowed items. If you have allowed any then tab to the list of items : you allowed. If you move back to the radio buttons group and use down arrow : from the choice for viewing allowed items, the next three times you use down : arrow you
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Hi Lisa, I am not sure, but perhaps nothing will show in the history unless specific actions on items have been taken. It might be due to an earlier version of JAWS, but the dialog box seems to pretty well follow Windows standards and the controls seem to be in good tabular order. I will have to clear items from the different categories in my history to find out if the controls still are showing in the dialog box when the program has nothing to report. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Lisa belville Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 6:44 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Hmm, Brian, I've been running MSE since last August and I've kept the default scanning time of 2 Am on Sunday. I don't see any allowed items or quarantined items. The last time I even saw anything it quarantined was back in December. I know it's scanning and updating the definitions, so should there be something listed under allowed or quarantined items, or is my inability to find them due to my using an older version of JAWS? Forget about great wealth, fame and being physically fit. Just give me lots of chocolate and blissful ignorance and leave me alone. Lisa Belville missktlab1...@frontier.com - Original Message - From: Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Hello, I am using JAWS 12 with Windows 7 64-bit and an up-to-date Microsoft Essentials program. I am able to get history information quite well. Although identified as buttons, the choices like home, update, history, and others are really treated as page tabs. The graphics are near the top of the window just under the status that says your computer is protected. You can use CTRL+Tab key to switch pages and eventually get to history. You can also use tab key until you find any of the following controls and then use right arrow key to find history: Home, update, settings, help, and additional help. Of course, if you use tab key and find the history choice then using right arrow is unnecessary. After labeling, the history choice will be identified by JAWS as history, but if you route JAWS to PC and read the current button, JAWS says Summarize view of the items detected in previous scans and the actions that were taken. If you tab from the history button, you will find a group of radio buttons. Use up and down arrow keys, but if you choose all detected items then tab to the list view of those items. Use down or up arrow key in the list to review items found that the program considered malicious. With focus on an item in the list, use tab key to move to a read-only box that gives information about the item. In that box, such things as category, description and recommended action are given for your review. Continue to use down arrow in the read-only box to find a list of files associated with the item selected in the list. Move back to the list and choose another item. Each time an item is selected in the list, you can tab to the read-only box that contains information about the given item. If you tab past the read-only box, you will find a button for deleting the history. If you tab back to the group of radio buttons where you chose to view all detected items, use down arrow key and you will find quaranteened items. Use tab from that selection to find a list of items that the program moved to quaranteen. Use tab to move to the read-only box for information about the item you select in the list. use tab to move to the Remove all button. Use tab key to move back to the group of radio buttons and use down arrow to find allowed items. If you have allowed any then tab to the list of items you allowed. If you move back to the radio buttons group and use down arrow from the choice for viewing allowed items, the next three times you use down arrow you will basically get a description of what each of the first three items did. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of lmorris1...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 3:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE history Becky and others, When you tab down once under history you get to a series of various checkbox items which you can down arrow through and read but still they are not accessible using either the spacebar, routing jaws to PC and left mouse clicking, or the enter key. So, if any of you have additional information we would love to here from you. -Original Message- From: Marilyn Walker Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 5:14 AM
Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE History
I haven't looked for the info on history, but if it found anything, it would have let you know. Jimmy. Twitter, kd5qhh Face book jimmy.podsim -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike Barbara Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 2:59 PM To: Jaws List Subject: [JAWS-Users] MSE History Hi All, I recently installed MSE and this morning was the first scheduled scan. Where do I find the history to see if any viruses were found? I am running XP Home Jaws 1011. All help will be graciously appreciated. Take care. Mike For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Hi Jimmy, Thank you for the tip. Have a great Thanksgiving. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Jimmy Podsim To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 7:24 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE History I haven't looked for the info on history, but if it found anything, it would have let you know. Jimmy. Twitter, kd5qhh Face book jimmy.podsim -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike Barbara Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 2:59 PM To: Jaws List Subject: [JAWS-Users] MSE History Hi All, I recently installed MSE and this morning was the first scheduled scan. Where do I find the history to see if any viruses were found? I am running XP Home Jaws 1011. All help will be graciously appreciated. Take care. Mike For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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If any viruses were detected during a scan, you will be presented with a dialog box that offers an option to learn more details about the threat and a Clean Computer option to remove it. If this happens, the virus will be listed on the History page which you can access by tabbing to the Home button, then right arrowing to the History button and hitting Space. If no items are listed, it means your scan was clean. MSE does not maintain a scan results log like AV or some other anti-virus programs. Gerald - Original Message - From: Mike Barbara mb69ma...@charter.net To: Jaws List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 3:59 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] MSE History Hi All, I recently installed MSE and this morning was the first scheduled scan. Where do I find the history to see if any viruses were found? I am running XP Home Jaws 1011. All help will be graciously appreciated. Take care. Mike For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Hi Gerald, Thank you very much for the help explanation. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSE History If any viruses were detected during a scan, you will be presented with a dialog box that offers an option to learn more details about the threat and a Clean Computer option to remove it. If this happens, the virus will be listed on the History page which you can access by tabbing to the Home button, then right arrowing to the History button and hitting Space. If no items are listed, it means your scan was clean. MSE does not maintain a scan results log like AV or some other anti-virus programs. Gerald - Original Message - From: Mike Barbara mb69ma...@charter.net To: Jaws List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 3:59 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] MSE History Hi All, I recently installed MSE and this morning was the first scheduled scan. Where do I find the history to see if any viruses were found? I am running XP Home Jaws 1011. All help will be graciously appreciated. Take care. Mike For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
