Re: [JBoss-dev] Obsolete Transaction Recovery JIRA tasks

2006-05-23 Thread Mark Little

We do have full recovery now.

Mark.


Dimitris Andreadis wrote:

I suppose after Arjuna's integration the Transaction Recovery task and
subtasks are obsolete now?

http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBAS-1402


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[JBoss-dev] Re: Register Synchronization while the Tx is marked for rollback

2006-04-26 Thread Mark Little

Replied on the forum.

Mark.


Emmanuel Bernard wrote:
A Seam use reported an isssue in the way Hibernate register a sync 
with JBossTM (the old one at least).
I've described the issue in JIRA 
http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/EJBTHREE-540


Please provide feedbacks on this one. We must fix that before JBoss AS 
4.0.4 / JBoss EJB3 / Hibernate EntityManager / Hibernate 3.2.0 get 
released (before J1)


This involves Mark, Steve, Bill and me





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Re: [JBoss-dev] Register Synchronization while the Tx is marked for rollback

2006-04-26 Thread Mark Little



Adrian Brock wrote:

I've closed the JTA issue:
http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBAS-3155

AFAIK, this originally comes from the OTS spec.
  


Synchronizations were standardised first in the OTS. Prior to that 
everyone did it in a vendor-specific manner.



I guess the only way an OTS backed JTA impl
could implement the new stuff:
http://www.jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/maintenance/jsr907/907-ChangeLog.html#registerInterposedSynchronization%28javax.transaction.Synchronization%29

Is for registerSynchronization() to directly invoke
afterCompletion() if the transaction is not active.

Strikes me that the user could do this themselves anyway!?
  


Not sure what you mean. That reference is purely about registering a 
subordinate synchronization with the original transaction coordinator. 
JBossTS does this already because it's an optional part of the OTS 
specification. You create and enlist the sub-synchronization with the 
root transaction when the context is imported and then when any local 
synchronizations are added, they register with the sub-synchronization.


Mark.



On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 09:15 -0400, Emmanuel Bernard wrote:
  
A Seam use reported an isssue in the way Hibernate register a sync with 
JBossTM (the old one at least).
I've described the issue in JIRA 
http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/EJBTHREE-540


Please provide feedbacks on this one. We must fix that before JBoss AS 
4.0.4 / JBoss EJB3 / Hibernate EntityManager / Hibernate 3.2.0 get 
released (before J1)


This involves Mark, Steve, Bill and me




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Re: [JBoss-dev] Register Synchronization while the Tx is marked for rollback

2006-04-26 Thread Mark Little


Not sure what you mean. That reference is purely about registering a 
subordinate synchronization with the original transaction coordinator. 
JBossTS does this already because it's an optional part of the OTS 
specification. You create and enlist the sub-synchronization with the 
root transaction when the context is imported and then when any local 
synchronizations are added, they register with the sub-synchronization.





I mean if a JavaEE provider uses OTS to implement JTA
you cannot map the above method directly onto OTS because the
co-ordinator will raise TRANSACTION_ROLLBACK
  


So remembering that the JTA is badly written (1.0.1 and 1.1), the 
intention in the registerInterposedSynchronization is that the 
transaction is active (Other than the transaction context, no component 
J2EE context is active during either of the callbacks.) - has not been 
marked as rollback-only and is not terminating. Unfortunately there's no 
guarantee (hence the reference to the fact the spec is still badly 
written). This doesn't prevent it being mapped onto OTS at all: it just 
means that we have to throw a javax.transaction.SystemException that is 
vendor specific. The downside of having to invent our own exception is 
that it affects portability, but more importantly it ensures that the 
right information is conveyed to the application. What should really 
happen is that the spec. gets fixed!



Actually, OTS has slightly weaker language:
TRANSACTION_ROLLEDBACK **may be** raised if the 
transaction has been marked rollback only.


  
Yes, and unfortunately we didn't use RFC2119 to define terms like MAY 
and SHOULD, so it's even more lax than usual. However, all 
implementations I'm aware of would throw TRANSACTION_ROLLEDBACK (at 
least by default).


Mark.



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Re: [JBoss-dev] JTA / JTS question

2006-04-21 Thread Mark Little
No, there's no guaranteed order (it can be different between transaction 
instances and between commit phases). None of the standards provide for 
it (going back beyond X/Open), and in fact that's one of the reasons 
synchronizations were introduced as a separate protocol (to guarantee 
ordering). So JTA or JTS won't help you here. However, if you want to 
look at JBossTransactions specifics, then that can help you: we give you 
full control over the ordering of participants.


Mark.


Tim Fox wrote:

One of you transaction gurus may know the answer:

If I enlist 2 (or more) XAResources into a JTA transaction.

Transaction tx = tm.getTransaction();
tx.enlistResource(res1);
tx.enlistResource(res2);

Then I rollback the transaction, which causes rollback() to be called 
on each of the XAResources.


Are there any guarantees on the order in which rollback() is called on 
the resources, or is this up to the transaction manager implementation?


E.g. is rollback always called in the same order the resources were 
enlisted?






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Re: [JBoss-dev] JTA / JTS question

2006-04-21 Thread Mark Little
Yes, that's pretty much it. If you want to guarantee ordering you'll 
have to do it with some intelligent interface between transactional 
participants and the backend datastore (queue in this case). Or, use 
JBossTS ;-)


Mark.


Tim Fox wrote:

Thanks.

This means that if I create 2 JMS XASessions, enlist them in a global 
tx, then receive messages 1, 2, 3 with session 1, and messages 4, 5, 6 
in session2, then rollback the global tx, the messages will end up 
back in the queue, but for some transaction managers the order in the 
queue will be 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, but for others it might be 4, 5, 6, 1, 
2, 3.


I guess this doesn't matter since the JMS message order guarantee 
doesn't apply after rollback anyway, but good to know.


I guess some users (wrongly) might expect messages to go back in the 
queue in the order they were consumed.


Mark Little wrote:
No, there's no guaranteed order (it can be different between 
transaction instances and between commit phases). None of the 
standards provide for it (going back beyond X/Open), and in fact 
that's one of the reasons synchronizations were introduced as a 
separate protocol (to guarantee ordering). So JTA or JTS won't help 
you here. However, if you want to look at JBossTransactions 
specifics, then that can help you: we give you full control over the 
ordering of participants.


Mark.


Tim Fox wrote:


One of you transaction gurus may know the answer:

If I enlist 2 (or more) XAResources into a JTA transaction.

Transaction tx = tm.getTransaction();
tx.enlistResource(res1);
tx.enlistResource(res2);

Then I rollback the transaction, which causes rollback() to be 
called on each of the XAResources.


Are there any guarantees on the order in which rollback() is called 
on the resources, or is this up to the transaction manager 
implementation?


E.g. is rollback always called in the same order the resources were 
enlisted?






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[JBoss-dev] Re: Finalizing the Release of JBAS 3.2.8.SP1 4.0.4.GA - YourHelp is Needed

2006-02-26 Thread Mark Little
I've asked Kevin to add an issue for 4.0.4GA. As for the installer: that 
really depends on the time; it's not strictly necessary for this to be 
integrated with the installer for 4.2, as it has been successfully 
distributed as a zip in the past. It would be nice to have an installer, 
but I think it's more important to get something useable and integrated 
out by Q1.


Mark.


Scott M Stark wrote:
At a minimum there needs to be a placeholder issue in the 
http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBAS project that links to the JBTM

issues that need to be completed. Otherwise 4.0.4.GA can go out without
anyone actually testing the integration. 


Beyond that, is this going to be integrated into the installer? If it
is, then we also need an integration test in the jbossas testsuite.

  

-Original Message-
From: Mark Little [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 5:19 AM

To: Dimitris Andreadis
Cc: Scott M Stark; Adrian Brock; 
jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Architect Council; 
QA; Ivelin Ivanov
Subject: Re: Finalizing the Release of JBAS 3.2.8.SP1  
4.0.4.GA - YourHelp is Needed


So it depends what you expect to see. 
http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBTM-2 is one example of 
the tasks left. You need to remember that the main 
integration effort was done months ago in Arjuna, who've been 
selling the integrated components for a few years. What we're 
doing here is a rebadge to JBoss Transactions and 4.0.4. 
Unless there are major differences between 4.0.2 and 4.0.4 
that directly affect TS then these tasks should be sufficient 
to cover the integration effort.


Mark.


Dimitris Andreadis wrote:


Isn't the new Transaction Manager supposed to be an optional plug-in
offered seperately, at this stage?

This is what I gathered from the integration plan:

http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBTM-13

I can't find any integration tasks in JIRA.

  
  

-Original Message-
From: Scott M Stark 
Sent: 24 February, 2006 21:43

To: Adrian Brock; Dimitris Andreadis
Cc: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Architect 
Council; QA; Ivelin Ivanov
Subject: RE: Finalizing the Release of JBAS 3.2.8.SP1  
4.0.4.GA - YourHelp is Needed


The new jta code is not fully cleaned and in a public 
repository. Need to check with Mark/Kevin to see if this is 
still on target for a 4.0.4 release next month. 




-Original Message-
From: Adrian Brock
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 8:48 AM
To: Dimitris Andreadis
Cc: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Architect 
  
Council; QA; 


Scott M Stark; Ivelin Ivanov
Subject: Re: Finalizing the Release of JBAS 3.2.8.SP1  
  
4.0.4.GA - 


YourHelp is Needed

The JCA, JTA and JMS work is pretty much done.

The outstanding stuff is all testing, some just to prove there is 
still no problem on bugs already fixed.


But this also includes the big one,
i.e. testing JMS inflow.

Incidently, I thought there would be some tasks raised for JBoss 
Transactions before the 4.0.4 release was finalized?


On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 12:31, Dimitris Andreadis wrote:
  
  

Hello everybody,

We have scheduled 2 releases of JBoss AS:

v3.2.8.SP1 for 03/Mar/06 (i.e. in 2 weeks time) v4.0.4.GA  for
17/Mar/06 (i.e. in 4 weeks time)

3.2.8SP1 is needed to address a couple of issues with 3.2.8



(JBossMQ
  
  

-already fixed- and some extra interop scenarios with 4.0.2



versions,
  
  

plus whatever appears within the next 2 weeks), so it's



under control.
  
  

However, getting 4.0.4.GA out the door is a big challenge



as we have
  
  

about 290 issues open! This list needs to be reduced to a



manageable
  
  

size of 90 or less issues to be solved until the release date.

We need EVERYONE to have a close look at the JBAS JIRA



tasks related
  
  

to his area of interest in order to:

1) Decide what features/bug/task are really important to go



out with
  
  

4.0.4.

Remember, 4.0.4RC1 is already out so new features shouldn't



really be
  
  
included between RC1 and GA, unless absolutely necessary, 


so we are 



talking about bug fixing mostly.

Please make use of the task Priorities to increase to



Critical the
  
  

priority of the tasks you want to get done for 4.0.4, and



decrease to
  
  

Minor those you don't.

2) Assign the issues to yourself or a member of your 


team; allocate 



time to work and close those critical issues within the



next 3 WEEKS
  
  

(to leave some time for testing).

If you don't have time to work on those tasks, keep them

[JBoss-dev] Re: Finalizing the Release of JBAS 3.2.8.SP1 4.0.4.GA - YourHelp is Needed

2006-02-25 Thread Mark Little

Yes, we're still on target for a 4.0.4 plug-in for end of March.

Mark.


Scott M Stark wrote:

The new jta code is not fully cleaned and in a public repository. Need
to check with Mark/Kevin to see if this is still on target for a 4.0.4
release next month. 

  

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Brock 
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 8:48 AM

To: Dimitris Andreadis
Cc: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Architect 
Council; QA; Scott M Stark; Ivelin Ivanov
Subject: Re: Finalizing the Release of JBAS 3.2.8.SP1  
4.0.4.GA - YourHelp is Needed


The JCA, JTA and JMS work is pretty much done.

The outstanding stuff is all testing, some just to prove 
there is still no problem on bugs already fixed.


But this also includes the big one,
i.e. testing JMS inflow.

Incidently, I thought there would be some tasks raised for 
JBoss Transactions before the 4.0.4 release was finalized?


On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 12:31, Dimitris Andreadis wrote:


Hello everybody,

We have scheduled 2 releases of JBoss AS:

v3.2.8.SP1 for 03/Mar/06 (i.e. in 2 weeks time) v4.0.4.GA  for 
17/Mar/06 (i.e. in 4 weeks time)


3.2.8SP1 is needed to address a couple of issues with 3.2.8 
  
(JBossMQ 

-already fixed- and some extra interop scenarios with 4.0.2 
  
versions, 

plus whatever appears within the next 2 weeks), so it's 
  

under control.

However, getting 4.0.4.GA out the door is a big challenge 
  
as we have 

about 290 issues open! This list needs to be reduced to a 
  
manageable 


size of 90 or less issues to be solved until the release date.

We need EVERYONE to have a close look at the JBAS JIRA 
  
tasks related 


to his area of interest in order to:

1) Decide what features/bug/task are really important to go 
  
out with 


4.0.4.

Remember, 4.0.4RC1 is already out so new features shouldn't 
  
really be 

included between RC1 and GA, unless absolutely necessary, so we are 
talking about bug fixing mostly.


Please make use of the task Priorities to increase to 
  
Critical the 

priority of the tasks you want to get done for 4.0.4, and 
  
decrease to 


Minor those you don't.

2) Assign the issues to yourself or a member of your team; allocate 
time to work and close those critical issues within the 
  
next 3 WEEKS 


(to leave some time for testing).

If you don't have time to work on those tasks, keep them unassigned 
and either postpone those for 4.0.5.CR1, or if something is never 
going to get fixed just close it as such with an explanation.


If it still something important that you don't have time to work on 
and we must look at, RAISE the issue in the DEV list so we find 
someone to work on it.


Again, please raise any issues, especially integration ones 
  
EARLY in 


the DEV and QA lists.

Thanks for all your help in advance.

/Dimitris
  

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Chief Scientist
JBoss Inc.
 







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[JBoss-dev] Re: Finalizing the Release of JBAS 3.2.8.SP1 4.0.4.GA - YourHelpis Needed

2006-02-25 Thread Mark Little
Yes. The intention is for 2 plugins for 4.0.4: one to cover the purely 
local JTA implementation (which becomes the default in 5.0) and one to 
cover JTS/WS-T (which will remain as a separate plugin in 5.0).


Mark.


Andy Miller wrote:
JBoss Transactions should stay an optional plug-in for the 4.0.x 
series.  It should only be integrated into JBoss AS 5.0.x.


Andy

On Fri, 2006-02-24 at 14:39 -0600, Dimitris Andreadis wrote:

Isn't the new Transaction Manager supposed to be an optional plug-in
offered seperately, at this stage?

This is what I gathered from the integration plan:

http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBTM-13

I can't find any integration tasks in JIRA.

 -Original Message-
 From: Scott M Stark 
 Sent: 24 February, 2006 21:43

 To: Adrian Brock; Dimitris Andreadis
 Cc: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Architect 
 Council; QA; Ivelin Ivanov
 Subject: RE: Finalizing the Release of JBAS 3.2.8.SP1  
 4.0.4.GA - YourHelp is Needed
 
 The new jta code is not fully cleaned and in a public 
 repository. Need to check with Mark/Kevin to see if this is 
 still on target for a 4.0.4 release next month. 
 
  -Original Message-

  From: Adrian Brock
  Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 8:48 AM
  To: Dimitris Andreadis
  Cc: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Architect Council; QA; 
  Scott M Stark; Ivelin Ivanov
  Subject: Re: Finalizing the Release of JBAS 3.2.8.SP1  4.0.4.GA - 
  YourHelp is Needed
  
  The JCA, JTA and JMS work is pretty much done.
  
  The outstanding stuff is all testing, some just to prove there is 
  still no problem on bugs already fixed.
  
  But this also includes the big one,

  i.e. testing JMS inflow.
  
  Incidently, I thought there would be some tasks raised for JBoss 
  Transactions before the 4.0.4 release was finalized?
  
  On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 12:31, Dimitris Andreadis wrote:

   Hello everybody,
   
   We have scheduled 2 releases of JBoss AS:
   
   v3.2.8.SP1 for 03/Mar/06 (i.e. in 2 weeks time) v4.0.4.GA  for

   17/Mar/06 (i.e. in 4 weeks time)
   
   3.2.8SP1 is needed to address a couple of issues with 3.2.8

  (JBossMQ
   -already fixed- and some extra interop scenarios with 4.0.2
  versions,
   plus whatever appears within the next 2 weeks), so it's
  under control.
   
   However, getting 4.0.4.GA out the door is a big challenge

  as we have
   about 290 issues open! This list needs to be reduced to a
  manageable
   size of 90 or less issues to be solved until the release date.
   
   We need EVERYONE to have a close look at the JBAS JIRA

  tasks related
   to his area of interest in order to:
   
   1) Decide what features/bug/task are really important to go

  out with
   4.0.4.
   
   Remember, 4.0.4RC1 is already out so new features shouldn't

  really be
   included between RC1 and GA, unless absolutely necessary, 
 so we are 
   talking about bug fixing mostly.
   
   Please make use of the task Priorities to increase to

  Critical the
   priority of the tasks you want to get done for 4.0.4, and
  decrease to
   Minor those you don't.
   
   2) Assign the issues to yourself or a member of your 
 team; allocate 
   time to work and close those critical issues within the

  next 3 WEEKS
   (to leave some time for testing).
   
   If you don't have time to work on those tasks, keep them 
 unassigned 
   and either postpone those for 4.0.5.CR1, or if something is never 
   going to get fixed just close it as such with an explanation.
   
   If it still something important that you don't have time 
 to work on 
   and we must look at, RAISE the issue in the DEV list so we find 
   someone to work on it.
   
   Again, please raise any issues, especially integration ones

  EARLY in
   the DEV and QA lists.
   
   Thanks for all your help in advance.
   
   /Dimitris

  --
  
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  Chief Scientist
  JBoss Inc.
  
  
  




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[JBoss-dev] Re: Finalizing the Release of JBAS 3.2.8.SP1 4.0.4.GA - YourHelp is Needed

2006-02-25 Thread Mark Little
So it depends what you expect to see. 
http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBTM-2 is one example of the tasks 
left. You need to remember that the main integration effort was done 
months ago in Arjuna, who've been selling the integrated components for 
a few years. What we're doing here is a rebadge to JBoss Transactions 
and 4.0.4. Unless there are major differences between 4.0.2 and 4.0.4 
that directly affect TS then these tasks should be sufficient to cover 
the integration effort.


Mark.


Dimitris Andreadis wrote:

Isn't the new Transaction Manager supposed to be an optional plug-in
offered seperately, at this stage?

This is what I gathered from the integration plan:

http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBTM-13

I can't find any integration tasks in JIRA.

  

-Original Message-
From: Scott M Stark 
Sent: 24 February, 2006 21:43

To: Adrian Brock; Dimitris Andreadis
Cc: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Architect 
Council; QA; Ivelin Ivanov
Subject: RE: Finalizing the Release of JBAS 3.2.8.SP1  
4.0.4.GA - YourHelp is Needed


The new jta code is not fully cleaned and in a public 
repository. Need to check with Mark/Kevin to see if this is 
still on target for a 4.0.4 release next month. 



-Original Message-
From: Adrian Brock
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 8:48 AM
To: Dimitris Andreadis
Cc: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Architect Council; QA; 
Scott M Stark; Ivelin Ivanov
Subject: Re: Finalizing the Release of JBAS 3.2.8.SP1  4.0.4.GA - 
YourHelp is Needed


The JCA, JTA and JMS work is pretty much done.

The outstanding stuff is all testing, some just to prove there is 
still no problem on bugs already fixed.


But this also includes the big one,
i.e. testing JMS inflow.

Incidently, I thought there would be some tasks raised for JBoss 
Transactions before the 4.0.4 release was finalized?


On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 12:31, Dimitris Andreadis wrote:
  

Hello everybody,

We have scheduled 2 releases of JBoss AS:

v3.2.8.SP1 for 03/Mar/06 (i.e. in 2 weeks time) v4.0.4.GA  for
17/Mar/06 (i.e. in 4 weeks time)

3.2.8SP1 is needed to address a couple of issues with 3.2.8


(JBossMQ
  

-already fixed- and some extra interop scenarios with 4.0.2


versions,
  

plus whatever appears within the next 2 weeks), so it's


under control.
  

However, getting 4.0.4.GA out the door is a big challenge


as we have
  

about 290 issues open! This list needs to be reduced to a


manageable
  

size of 90 or less issues to be solved until the release date.

We need EVERYONE to have a close look at the JBAS JIRA


tasks related
  

to his area of interest in order to:

1) Decide what features/bug/task are really important to go


out with
  

4.0.4.

Remember, 4.0.4RC1 is already out so new features shouldn't


really be
  
included between RC1 and GA, unless absolutely necessary, 

so we are 


talking about bug fixing mostly.

Please make use of the task Priorities to increase to


Critical the
  

priority of the tasks you want to get done for 4.0.4, and


decrease to
  

Minor those you don't.

2) Assign the issues to yourself or a member of your 

team; allocate 


time to work and close those critical issues within the


next 3 WEEKS
  

(to leave some time for testing).

If you don't have time to work on those tasks, keep them 

unassigned 

and either postpone those for 4.0.5.CR1, or if something is never 
going to get fixed just close it as such with an explanation.


If it still something important that you don't have time 

to work on 

and we must look at, RAISE the issue in the DEV list so we find 
someone to work on it.


Again, please raise any issues, especially integration ones


EARLY in
  

the DEV and QA lists.

Thanks for all your help in advance.

/Dimitris


--

Adrian Brock
Chief Scientist
JBoss Inc.



  



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[JBoss-dev] Supported standards matrixes

2006-02-15 Thread Mark Little
As part of our ongoing standards activities, I've set up a series of 
product/standard matrixes linked off 
http://wiki.jboss.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=ADescriptionOfWhatStandardsAreSupported 
If you want to update, please do so, or send me the relevant information:


(i) standards body
(ii) name of standard
(iii) version of product that supports it
(iv) version of standard that is supported

If it's not in a standards body (e.g., OASIS, OMG, JCP, IETF, W3C), then 
send me the information rather than adding it directly - currently we're 
only describing support for things that are open standards.


Thanks,

Mark.


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RE: [JBoss-dev] OTS and JBoss

2003-06-30 Thread Mark Little
Oleg, as someone pointed out the other day, check out www.arjuna.com, where 
you'll find an OTS transaction manager (the ex-HP transaction service) that's 
been integrated with JBoss. We're also a partnet of JBoss.

Let me know if you've any problems/questions.

Mark.

= Original Message From Oleg V. Safonov [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
Ok, Tyrex is not supported, but how integrate CORBA transaction client and
JBoss?

Thanks.

Oleg V. Safonov (Millennium Group, MTDORB Team, RD)
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Re: [JBoss-dev] Tyrex transaction manager

2003-06-27 Thread Mark Little
From what I heard at JavaOne from a couple of people (e.g., Macromedia use a
cut of it in their app. server), it's dead.

Mark.

- Original Message -
From: Bill Burke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 4:54 PM
Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Tyrex transaction manager


 Anatoly Akkerman was maintaining it a lnnng time ago.  Nobody really
 uses it or used it.  I think the project is dead since their last release
 was May 2002 and they only have one CVS committer.

 http://sourceforge.net/projects/tyrex/

 Bill

  -Original Message-
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bruce
  Snyder
  Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 11:10 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Tyrex transaction manager
 
 
  This one time, at band camp, Bill Burke said:
 
  BBWe will not be supporting the Tyrex transaction manager
  anymore unless you
  BBwant to take over the integration.
 
  I'm just curious, why was this decision made? Who used to maintain
  this integration?
 
  Bruce
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