RE: [JBoss-dev] Source code editors
-Original Message- From: Mariano Kamp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 10:01 PM To: Khoa Do Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Source code editors I personally like http://www.eclipse.org very much. It is brandnew, but quite stable and full of useful features. It looks a bit like VAJ (also from OTI) and is very well thought out, even in the details. It is not giving you any support for GUI editing and EJB stuff, but as it is open source... The major backer is ibm. ibm builds there Websphere Studio Application Developer on top of it. It has a great editor and refactoring browser. It supports multiple vms and has some basic ant support which is supposed to grow significantly in the new release. CVS support is built in. You can post bugs and feature requests with bugzilla. Pretty good newsgroup support and loads of documentation about extending it. It is based on SWT (Standard Windowing Toolkit) though, which is implemented native. Therefore when it comes down to the ui it is knocking off forte et al., but is not as portable. motif (solaris, linux) and windows is available at the moment. gtk almost finished and mac os in the very beginning. Mariano -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Khoa Do Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 8:26 PM To: Jboss-Development@Lists. Sourceforge. Net Subject: [JBoss-dev] Source code editors Hi, I was just wondering if any of you guys have found any open source Java IDE that was worth using in developing Jboss. Emacs is too new for me. I can't stand vi because it beeps at me way too often. Forte CE is way too slow at start up and plus I wants us to create a new project. Any suggestions? Sincerely, - Khoa Do ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
RE: [JBoss-dev] Source code editors
I second the recommendation for IntelliJ IDEA. I was using JBuilder and before that SlickEdit (not really an IDE). IDEA is the only Java IDE that seems like it was actually developed by people that write code. It's also the only one that has support for refactoring. They were running a $200 "personal license" special, but that may have expired. --- Jerome Bonnet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The best IDE ever is IntelliJ IDEA. (far better than > JBuilder, AnyJ, any > other... > with lack of swing GUI builder however I find them > irrelevant). > It is 100% pure Java so even if there is no > installer for macos X > It should be usable. > > Visit at http://www.intellij.com > > However it is commercial (around 300$ I think). > > -Original Message- > From: Anatoly Akkerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 1:58 AM > To: Hunter Hillegas > Cc: Khoa Do; 'Rhett Aultman'; JBoss Dev > Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Source code editors > > > > Try AnyJ, unless you are doing commercial > development it is free. It is > also free for evaluation. See their license. The IDE > is quite fast (way > much smaller than JBuilder) and has some very useful > features. I think, > I've heard about it from Marc in one of his e-mails. > > - > Anatoly Akkerman > Computer Science Dept. > Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences, NYU > 715 Broadway, #719 Tel: 212 > 998-3493 > New York, NY 10003 Fax: 212 > 995-4123 > - > > > > ___ > Jboss-development mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development > > ___ > Jboss-development mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: [JBoss-dev] Source code editors
MacOS X does appear to be supported. The startup shell script even has some conditionals to set JAVA_HOME properly on 'darwin' (which actually aren't really needed). 'twould be nice if they offerred academic pricing for open-source development uses. Jerome Bonnet wrote: > The best IDE ever is IntelliJ IDEA. (far better than JBuilder, AnyJ, any > other... > with lack of swing GUI builder however I find them irrelevant). > It is 100% pure Java so even if there is no installer for macos X > It should be usable. > > Visit at http://www.intellij.com > > However it is commercial (around 300$ I think). > > -Original Message- > From: Anatoly Akkerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 1:58 AM > To: Hunter Hillegas > Cc: Khoa Do; 'Rhett Aultman'; JBoss Dev > Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Source code editors > > Try AnyJ, unless you are doing commercial development it is free. It is > also free for evaluation. See their license. The IDE is quite fast (way > much smaller than JBuilder) and has some very useful features. I think, > I've heard about it from Marc in one of his e-mails. > > - > Anatoly Akkerman > Computer Science Dept. > Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences, NYU > 715 Broadway, #719 Tel: 212 998-3493 > New York, NY 10003 Fax: 212 995-4123 > - > > ___ > Jboss-development mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development > > ___ > Jboss-development mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: [JBoss-dev] Source code editors
- Original Message - From: "Dain Sundstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I have tried almost every ide and they all suck... - Original Message - From: "Jerome Bonnet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The best IDE ever is IntelliJ IDEA... I had the same experience as Dain and used to groan every time the IDE discussion came up in newsgroups because everybody's favorite IDE still sucked. However, I recently broke down and tried IDEA and must confess that I have seen the light. I agree with Jerome; IDEA is exactly what a Java development tool should be and nothing more. The "nothing more" is key, avoiding the typical IDE bloatware curse. As a rule I favor Open Source development tools, but IDEA is an exception: http://www.intellij.com Fred Loney Spirited Software, Inc. www.spiritedsw.com ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
RE: [JBoss-dev] Source code editors
The best IDE ever is IntelliJ IDEA. (far better than JBuilder, AnyJ, any other... with lack of swing GUI builder however I find them irrelevant). It is 100% pure Java so even if there is no installer for macos X It should be usable. Visit at http://www.intellij.com However it is commercial (around 300$ I think). -Original Message- From: Anatoly Akkerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 1:58 AM To: Hunter Hillegas Cc: Khoa Do; 'Rhett Aultman'; JBoss Dev Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Source code editors Try AnyJ, unless you are doing commercial development it is free. It is also free for evaluation. See their license. The IDE is quite fast (way much smaller than JBuilder) and has some very useful features. I think, I've heard about it from Marc in one of his e-mails. - Anatoly Akkerman Computer Science Dept. Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences, NYU 715 Broadway, #719 Tel: 212 998-3493 New York, NY 10003 Fax: 212 995-4123 - ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: [JBoss-dev] Source code editors
Try AnyJ, unless you are doing commercial development it is free. It is also free for evaluation. See their license. The IDE is quite fast (way much smaller than JBuilder) and has some very useful features. I think, I've heard about it from Marc in one of his e-mails. - Anatoly Akkerman Computer Science Dept. Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences, NYU 715 Broadway, #719 Tel: 212 998-3493 New York, NY 10003 Fax: 212 995-4123 - ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: [JBoss-dev] Source code editors
Buy a MacOS X machine and run ProjectBuilder. Works really great for Java... An IDE that isn't obtrusive, highly customizable, with lots of keyboard shortcuts. > From: Khoa Do <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:04:34 -0800 > To: "'Rhett Aultman'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "Jboss-Development@Lists. Sourceforge. > Net"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Source code editors > > Thank you. I will try to give emacs a shot. It just that I can't > get used to the having to type a > control-XX to do something that I can do with a mouse. I use MS Visual > studio a lot so I am used to the IDE > and the project explorer with all the pretty objects and their graphical > attributes. ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
RE: [JBoss-dev] Source code editors
Thank you. I will try to give emacs a shot. It just that I can't get used to the having to type a control-XX to do something that I can do with a mouse. I use MS Visual studio a lot so I am used to the IDE and the project explorer with all the pretty objects and their graphical attributes. -Original Message- From: Rhett Aultman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:39 AM To: Jboss-Development@Lists. Sourceforge. Net Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Source code editors Pico is a fairly easy editor to deal with, but it's assinine in its insertion of carriage returns willy-nilly, and that can get you in trouble. I haven't used Forte much...can't you edit individual files without starting a new project? I know you can in most commercial IDEs. At least, I've been able to do so with JBuilder and VisualAge. You have to fiddle with them if you want to compile under them, though...you're going to run into that with most IDEs. I guess if you're looking for a really plain editor, then use XEmacs or one of the other GUI Emcacs that have drop-down menus for most of the major keystroke combos. After a while, you get used to emacs. Really. :) ... ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
RE: [JBoss-dev] Source code editors
I have tried almost every ide and they all suck. I use vi, bash and ant. To make vi shut up just add the following to your .vimrc file set tabstop=3 set softtabstop=3 set shiftwidth=3 set autoindent set expandtab set vb t_vb= The last line is the important one. If you want to make bash shut up add the following to your .inputrc: set prefer-visible-bell and the following to your .bashrc: set bell-style visible -dain > -Original Message- > From: Khoa Do [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 1:26 PM > To: Jboss-Development@Lists. Sourceforge. Net > Subject: [JBoss-dev] Source code editors > > > > Hi, > I was just wondering if any of you guys have found any > open source > Java IDE that was worth using in developing Jboss. Emacs is > too new for me. > I can't stand vi because it beeps at me way too often. Forte > CE is way too > slow at start up and plus I wants us to create a new project. Any > suggestions? > Sincerely, > - Khoa Do > > ___ > Jboss-development mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development > ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
RE: [JBoss-dev] Source code editors
Pico is a fairly easy editor to deal with, but it's assinine in its insertion of carriage returns willy-nilly, and that can get you in trouble. I haven't used Forte much...can't you edit individual files without starting a new project? I know you can in most commercial IDEs. At least, I've been able to do so with JBuilder and VisualAge. You have to fiddle with them if you want to compile under them, though...you're going to run into that with most IDEs. I guess if you're looking for a really plain editor, then use XEmacs or one of the other GUI Emcacs that have drop-down menus for most of the major keystroke combos. After a while, you get used to emacs. Really. :) -Original Message- From: Khoa Do [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 2:26 PM To: Jboss-Development@Lists. Sourceforge. Net Subject: [JBoss-dev] Source code editors Hi, I was just wondering if any of you guys have found any open source Java IDE that was worth using in developing Jboss. Emacs is too new for me. I can't stand vi because it beeps at me way too often. Forte CE is way too slow at start up and plus I wants us to create a new project. Any suggestions? Sincerely, - Khoa Do ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
[JBoss-dev] Source code editors
Hi, I was just wondering if any of you guys have found any open source Java IDE that was worth using in developing Jboss. Emacs is too new for me. I can't stand vi because it beeps at me way too often. Forte CE is way too slow at start up and plus I wants us to create a new project. Any suggestions? Sincerely, - Khoa Do ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
