Re: [jdev] Where is the JCR these days?

2007-12-06 Thread Tomasz Sterna
On Śr, 2007-12-05 at 19:31 -0800, Donald Hoffman wrote:
 I wanted to experiment with writing an XMPP external component for a  
 project I am working on. I noticed some references to the Jabber  
 Component Runtime and was thinking of starting with that.

JCR is not a tool to write own components.
It's a tool to run jabberd14 components standalone.
(It's basically stripped-down jabberd14 server.)

I cannot recommend a component writing framework though...


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Re: [jdev] Google to Connect to Other IM Networks Using Jabber Transports?

2007-12-06 Thread Andreas Monitzer

On Dec 06, 2007, at 04:56, Ernest Nova wrote:

and both Gtalk and AIM are fairly open about APIs (XMPP and legit  
access via the OpenAIM program respectively) that you can use to  
connect to their networks directly


Uhm, how do you define fairly open?

http://developer.aim.com/faq#aimcc

---

Q: Are there any restrictions on what I can build?

A: We tried to make the Open AIM Program as restriction-free as  
possible, but in order to help protect our network and users, certain  
rules apply. We have highlighted some below, but please refer to the  
Developers License Agreement for details.


• Developers are not permitted to build Custom Clients that are multi- 
headed or interoperable with any other IM network.

[...]
---

So basically, it looks like Google is violating this agreement  
anyways. If they have a separate agreement with AOL, they do offer  
something better than just using your own AIM transport.


btw, that's the reason why aimcc didn't change anything in the IM  
world. All 3rd party clients are multiprotocol, so they can't use this  
anyways.


andy



Re: [jdev] Where is the JCR these days?

2007-12-06 Thread Andreas Monitzer

On Dec 06, 2007, at 10:01, Tomasz Sterna wrote:


I cannot recommend a component writing framework though...


iksemel?

andy


Re: [jdev] Where is the JCR these days?

2007-12-06 Thread Tobias Markmann
On Dec 6, 2007 4:31 AM, Donald Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I wanted to experiment with writing an XMPP external component for a
 project I am working on. I noticed some references to the Jabber
 Component Runtime and was thinking of starting with that.  However I
 notice that the referenced server (http://jabber.terrapin.com) appears
 to no longer host it.  Are there any alternate hosts, or should I
 be considering another starting point?

 Thanks,
 Don



In what language do you want to write your component? What licensing
are you going to use (open source?)?

gloox is a very nice library if you are planning to write it in C++.
It's cross platform and open source and commercial licensing is
available.
For further information see: http://camaya.net/gloox

There are definitely some XMPP libs for python but I don't know much about them.

Cheers,
Tobias


Re: [jdev] Where is the JCR these days?

2007-12-06 Thread Donald Hoffman
I had thought that JCR was used to turn a jabberd14 internal  
component in to an external one.  (E.g, per XEP-114).  In that sense  
it is not a stripped down server, since it still needs a jabber server  
somewhere to run (not necessarily on the same machine).   Was I wrong  
about that?


Thanks,
Don


On Dec 6, 2007, at 1:01 AM, Tomasz Sterna wrote:


On Śr, 2007-12-05 at 19:31 -0800, Donald Hoffman wrote:

I wanted to experiment with writing an XMPP external component for a
project I am working on. I noticed some references to the Jabber
Component Runtime and was thinking of starting with that.


JCR is not a tool to write own components.
It's a tool to run jabberd14 components standalone.
(It's basically stripped-down jabberd14 server.)

I cannot recommend a component writing framework though...


--
 /\_./o__ Tomasz Sterna
(/^/(_^^'  Xiaoka.com
._.(_.)_  XMPP: [EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: [jdev] Where is the JCR these days?

2007-12-06 Thread Donald Hoffman
C++ it is.   gloox does appear to support XEP-114 according to the  
feature list.  Will go deeper with this.


They do seem to have python and lua binds also.

Thanks,
Don

On Dec 6, 2007, at 7:37 AM, Tobias Markmann wrote:


On Dec 6, 2007 4:31 AM, Donald Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I wanted to experiment with writing an XMPP external component for a
project I am working on. I noticed some references to the Jabber
Component Runtime and was thinking of starting with that.  However I
notice that the referenced server (http://jabber.terrapin.com)  
appears

to no longer host it.  Are there any alternate hosts, or should I
be considering another starting point?

Thanks,
Don




In what language do you want to write your component? What licensing
are you going to use (open source?)?

gloox is a very nice library if you are planning to write it in C++.
It's cross platform and open source and commercial licensing is
available.
For further information see: http://camaya.net/gloox

There are definitely some XMPP libs for python but I don't know much  
about them.


Cheers,
Tobias




Re: [jdev] Where is the JCR these days?

2007-12-06 Thread Mark Doliner
On Dec 6, at 9:53 AM, Donald Hoffman wroge:
 On Dec 6, 2007, at 1:01 AM, Tomasz Sterna wrote:
  On Śr, 2007-12-05 at 19:31 -0800, Donald Hoffman wrote:
  I wanted to experiment with writing an XMPP external component for a
  project I am working on. I noticed some references to the Jabber
  Component Runtime and was thinking of starting with that.
 
  JCR is not a tool to write own components.
  It's a tool to run jabberd14 components standalone.
  (It's basically stripped-down jabberd14 server.)
 
  I cannot recommend a component writing framework though...

 I had thought that JCR was used to turn a jabberd14 internal
 component in to an external one.  (E.g, per XEP-114).  In that sense
 it is not a stripped down server, since it still needs a jabber server
 somewhere to run (not necessarily on the same machine).   Was I wrong
 about that?

Er, you're both correct.  The JCR is a small library which was written to allow 
jabberd14 components to run as a XEP-0114 component.  It contains lots of 
utility functions taken from old versions of the jabberd14 server (jid_user, 
jid_full, a hash table, memory pooling, string spools, etc), as well as the low 
level connection code used to connect to a XEP-0114 compatible Jabber server.

I don't know if the JCR is maintained as a standalone library anymore, but it 
is used by MU-Conference, and the JCR code is still fairly independent of the 
rest of the MU-Conference code.  MU-Conference can be downloaded from 
http://gna.org/projects/mu-conference/ (I'd check it out from SVN, to make sure 
you have the latest code).

And you'll probably want to compare it to the other projects mentioned (iksemel 
and gloox) to determine which works best for you.

-Mark


[jdev] XMPP Server/Client for WIN CE 5.0

2007-12-06 Thread PTrehan

Hi All,

I am looking for vendor or open-source project that can provide me with
XMPP Server/Client on WIN CE 5.0.

I already went through list of XMPP clients/server on jabber.org and don’t
see the XMPP server for WIN CE 5.0.

Any suggestion or pointer will be appreciated.

Regards
Pankaj Trehan

Project Engineer
Westell, Inc.
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Re: [jdev] XMPP Server/Client for WIN CE 5.0

2007-12-06 Thread Sander Devrieze
2007/12/6, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi All,

 I am looking for vendor or open-source project that can provide me with
 XMPP Server/Client on WIN CE 5.0.

 I already went through list of XMPP clients/server on jabber.org and don't
 see the XMPP server for WIN CE 5.0.

 Any suggestion or pointer will be appreciated.

Coccinella may run (but not supported) on WIN CE 5.0:
http://coccinella.im/download/thirdparty (see eTcl). You can easily
create a kit file of a newer Coccinella release: just unzip the
provided version to see the differences. In cases of issues you can
get help at our forum.

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Re: [jdev] XMPP Server/Client for WIN CE 5.0

2007-12-06 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I am looking for vendor or open-source project that can provide me with
 XMPP Server/Client on WIN CE 5.0.
 
 I already went through list of XMPP clients/server on jabber.org and don’t
 see the XMPP server for WIN CE 5.0.
 
 Any suggestion or pointer will be appreciated.

I remember talking with someone who was working on a WinCE client but I
can't recall the details. If I remember I'll post about it. :)

Peter

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Re: [jdev] XMPP Server/Client for WIN CE 5.0

2007-12-06 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi All,

 I am looking for vendor or open-source project that can provide me with
 XMPP Server/Client on WIN CE 5.0.

 I already went through list of XMPP clients/server on jabber.org and don’t
 see the XMPP server for WIN CE 5.0.

 Any suggestion or pointer will be appreciated.
 
 I remember talking with someone who was working on a WinCE client but I
 can't recall the details. If I remember I'll post about it. :)

Oh and do you really want/need to run a *server* on WinCE?!?

Peter

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Re: [jdev] XMPP Server/Client for WIN CE 5.0

2007-12-06 Thread PTrehan
Yes .. We are planning to run XMPP server on WIN CE 5.0  Device ..

Pankaj Trehan

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Westell, Inc.
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Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi All,

 I am looking for vendor or open-source project that can provide me with
 XMPP Server/Client on WIN CE 5.0.

 I already went through list of XMPP clients/server on jabber.org and
don’t
 see the XMPP server for WIN CE 5.0.

 Any suggestion or pointer will be appreciated.

 I remember talking with someone who was working on a WinCE client but I
 can't recall the details. If I remember I'll post about it. :)

Oh and do you really want/need to run a *server* on WinCE?!?

Peter

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Re: [jdev] XMPP Server/Client for WIN CE 5.0

2007-12-06 Thread Artur Hefczyc
On Thursday 06 December 2007 21:32:15 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes .. We are planning to run XMPP server on WIN CE 5.0  Device ..

What about Java software?
I guess it should work on WIN CE?
There are at least 1 Java client - Jeti
and at least 2 Java servers - Openfire and Tigase.

If you can run java application on win ce you should be able to
run any of above.

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