RE: How to create a custom profiling rule?

2005-01-07 Thread Marina
Sorry to bother you all with this again...

Ok, after I've done all these changes, I found a new
problem as well:
no links (*.link files) are displayed on either of the
pages, for neither of the users. 

I tried placing them in the / and /dce-portal
directory, but still nothing is displayed.

Is this a problem with my new profiling rule?
What determines whether links are displayed or not?

Thanks!
Marina

--- Marina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Randy,
 thanks for your help. You are probably right and I
 made it more complicated than what it should be.
 
 Basically, what I would like to have in my portal
 is:
 
 1. all application-specific portal pages/ docsets/
 links should be in a separate directory, say,
 .../pages/dce-portal/
 
 2. users ('dce-user', 'dce-admin') with the
 'dce-user-role' should be able to see one main page,
 dce-main-page.psml, and one additional page as a
 tab,
 dce-users-page.psml. Both .psml pages are in the
 .../pages/dce-portal/ directory
 
 3. a generic (non-logged in, 'guest') user should
 see
 the ../pages/dce-portal/dce-main-page.psml, and
 nothing else
 
 So, to accomplish this, I have created this custom
 profiling rule:
 insert into PROFILING_RULE values ('dce-generic',

'org.apache.jetspeed.profiler.rules.impl.StandardProfilingRule',
 'rule for non-logged in DCE portal users')
 
 insert into RULE_CRITERION values ('100',
 'dce-generic', 0, 'path', 'path', '/dce-portal', 0)
 
 and assigned it to the 'guest', 'dce-user' and
 'dce-admin' users.
 This made all pages visible to these three users. To
 restrict access to the user-specific page to the
 users
 with the 'dce-user-role' role, I've added the
 following security constraints to the
 dce-users-page.psml:
   security-constraint
  rolesdce-user-role/roles
  permissionsview/permissions
/security-constraint
 
 
 Well, that did work. With the exception of those
 problems I mentioned in my previous post (one of
 them
 was fixed by using #if($site.rootLinks.isEmpty()) as
 David suggested)
 
 So, the only problem that is still left is inclusion
 of the .ds sets from the '/' directory. I would
 rather
 like to use the ../pages/dce-portal/ as the root
 directory, but my profiling rule does not seem to
 accomplish this.
 
 I hope I'm being clear :)
 
 And thanks a lot for looking into this!
 
 Marina  
 
 --- Randy Watler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Marina,
  
  Using the Profiler effectively is more in my
 court,
  so let's see if I can
  help here.
  
  I think there are three subjects here that need
  individual attention:
  
  1. you probably do not need to define a new
  profiling rule... there are some
  predefined rules that you can use to achieve
  role-based profiling,
  2. the demo site is just that and you should start
  with a clean
  WEB-INF/pages directory only adding in what you
 need
  from the demo site, and
  3. the tigris sample decorator is a good starting
  place, but most everyone
  ends up customizing and deploying their own
 flavor.
  
  So, rather than trying to figure out what you have
  now, I would like to know
  what your objective is. I'll then tell you how I'd
  solve it using the M1
  release version. We can then compare notes and
 take
  it from there... ok?
  
  Randy
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Marina
  To: Jetspeed Users List
  Sent: 12/30/04 1:26 PM
  Subject: Re: How to create a custom profiling
 rule?
  
  David, 
  Thanks for the clarification. I did find a way to
 do
  role-based profiling, basically, by restricting
  access
  to specific PSML pages by roles.
  
  I still have a few problems I was not able to
 solve
  so
  far. The main one is that I still get some
 elements
  from the '/' directory included into my pages,
 even
  though I explicitly specified in my profiling rule
  that only elements from a specific directory
 should
  be
  used. I think I made some stupid mistakes while
  creating custom profiling rules...
  
  Here is how I setup my portal's content and
 created
  a
  new profiling rule using direct SQL (I don't think
  it
  is possible to that through the Admin portlets
 yet):
  
  1. create new directory for my Portal content:
  pages/dce-portal
  place into this directory:
  dce-main-page.psml
  dce-user-page.psml
  folder.metadata
  
  2. define new role, 'dce-user-role', and assign it
  to
  the 'dce-user' user
  
  3. define security constraints in the
  folder.metadata:
  'guest' users can view all pages;
  users with 'dce-user-role' role can view all pages
  
security-constraints
  security-constraint
usersguest/users
permissionsview/permissions
  /security-constraint
  security-constraint
rolesdce-user-role/roles
permissionsview/permissions
  /security-constraint
/security-constraints  
  
  4. define security constraints in the
  dce-main-page.psml:
!-- allow all users to view --
security-constraints
  security-constraint
users*/users

Re: How to create a custom profiling rule?

2005-01-07 Thread Randy Watler
Marina,
*.link files are only displayed if addressable in the / request 
directory as rootLinks, or as elements of a document set. This explains 
why they are not visible if located in the /dce-portal directory. 
Security limitations apply to link visibility, so perhaps that might 
explain why you do not see them when placed in the / directory?

We still need to discuss use of the /dce-portal directory with your 
custom profiling rule, but I do not think it is messing up the display 
of rootLinks... of course, I might be missing something that should be 
obvious.

Randy
Marina wrote:
Sorry to bother you all with this again...
Ok, after I've done all these changes, I found a new
problem as well:
no links (*.link files) are displayed on either of the
pages, for neither of the users. 

I tried placing them in the / and /dce-portal
directory, but still nothing is displayed.
Is this a problem with my new profiling rule?
What determines whether links are displayed or not?
Thanks!
Marina
--- Marina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Randy,
thanks for your help. You are probably right and I
made it more complicated than what it should be.
Basically, what I would like to have in my portal
is:
1. all application-specific portal pages/ docsets/
links should be in a separate directory, say,
.../pages/dce-portal/
2. users ('dce-user', 'dce-admin') with the
'dce-user-role' should be able to see one main page,
dce-main-page.psml, and one additional page as a
tab,
dce-users-page.psml. Both .psml pages are in the
.../pages/dce-portal/ directory
3. a generic (non-logged in, 'guest') user should
see
the ../pages/dce-portal/dce-main-page.psml, and
nothing else
So, to accomplish this, I have created this custom
profiling rule:
insert into PROFILING_RULE values ('dce-generic',
   

'org.apache.jetspeed.profiler.rules.impl.StandardProfilingRule',
 

'rule for non-logged in DCE portal users')
insert into RULE_CRITERION values ('100',
'dce-generic', 0, 'path', 'path', '/dce-portal', 0)
and assigned it to the 'guest', 'dce-user' and
'dce-admin' users.
This made all pages visible to these three users. To
restrict access to the user-specific page to the
users
with the 'dce-user-role' role, I've added the
following security constraints to the
dce-users-page.psml:
 security-constraint
rolesdce-user-role/roles
permissionsview/permissions
  /security-constraint
Well, that did work. With the exception of those
problems I mentioned in my previous post (one of
them
was fixed by using #if($site.rootLinks.isEmpty()) as
David suggested)
So, the only problem that is still left is inclusion
of the .ds sets from the '/' directory. I would
rather
like to use the ../pages/dce-portal/ as the root
directory, but my profiling rule does not seem to
accomplish this.
I hope I'm being clear :)
And thanks a lot for looking into this!
Marina  

--- Randy Watler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   

Marina,
Using the Profiler effectively is more in my
 

court,
   

so let's see if I can
help here.
I think there are three subjects here that need
individual attention:
1. you probably do not need to define a new
profiling rule... there are some
predefined rules that you can use to achieve
role-based profiling,
2. the demo site is just that and you should start
with a clean
WEB-INF/pages directory only adding in what you
 

need
   

from the demo site, and
3. the tigris sample decorator is a good starting
place, but most everyone
ends up customizing and deploying their own
 

flavor.
   

So, rather than trying to figure out what you have
now, I would like to know
what your objective is. I'll then tell you how I'd
solve it using the M1
release version. We can then compare notes and
 

take
   

it from there... ok?
Randy
-Original Message-
From: Marina
To: Jetspeed Users List
Sent: 12/30/04 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: How to create a custom profiling
 

rule?
   

David, 
Thanks for the clarification. I did find a way to
 

do
   

role-based profiling, basically, by restricting
access
to specific PSML pages by roles.
I still have a few problems I was not able to
 

solve
   

so
far. The main one is that I still get some
 

elements
   

from the '/' directory included into my pages,
 

even
   

though I explicitly specified in my profiling rule
that only elements from a specific directory
 

should
   

be
used. I think I made some stupid mistakes while
creating custom profiling rules...
Here is how I setup my portal's content and
 

created
   

a
new profiling rule using direct SQL (I don't think
it
is possible to that through the Admin portlets
 

yet):
   

1. create new directory for my Portal content:
pages/dce-portal
place into this directory:
dce-main-page.psml
dce-user-page.psml
folder.metadata
2. define new role, 'dce-user-role', and assign it
to
the 'dce-user' user
3. define security constraints in the
folder.metadata:
'guest' users can view all pages;
users with 'dce-user-role' role can

Re: How to create a custom profiling rule?

2004-12-31 Thread David Sean Taylor
Marina wrote:
 However, there are a few problems:
1. Empty Additional Links area is shown - even
though there are no *.link files in the
pages/dce-portal/ dir

If there are no links available then the collection should be empty
I think what is happening is that there is a collection on 
$site.rootLinks however the collection is empty

Instead of checking for null
(#if($site.rootLinks)  ). My guess (without
try
(#if($site.rootLinks.isEmpty())
if that works for you please send a patch
2. Empty Top Pages area is shown 
same as above
3. Docsets from the / root directory (*.ds files)
are included
Recommend removing any docsets that you are not using
As part of the build process for the J2 sites I work on, I will either
replace the the psml directory in the spring configuration with a new 
location, or just delete out all the demo psml, ds, etc...

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Re: How to create a custom profiling rule?

2004-12-29 Thread David Sean Taylor
On Dec 29, 2004, at 9:25 AM, Marina wrote:
Randy, thanks a lot for your answer!
Do you know if there are plans to implement role-based
(and group-based) profiling in the future J2 releases?
I would think that role-based profiling is very
critical for real applications.
You can setup the default rule to use a role-based algorithm, or you 
can assigned users to use a specific role algorithm
So its not like there isn't role-based profiling in the system -- its 
pretty well supported, but not in the manner you are suggesting.


With the default global profiling, does it mean that
the profiling rule assigned to '*' users is used
UNLESS a different rule is assigned to specific users?
yes
take a look at the admin profiling portlet, and the user admin portlet
you can configure all profiling  (no need to edit the tables) via the 
admin portlets although I admit its a bit difficult without any 
documentation

Or does  it apply to all users regardless of other
assignments?
Thanks,
Marina
--- Randy Watler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Marina,
David is the Profiler Master, so he is much more
qualified to explain its
configuration and inner workings. The source is in
components/profiler.
See comments below...
 It seems that profiling rules are assigned to the
users based on the user names.
Yes.
At least this is what I
see in the PRINCIPAL_RULE_ASSOC table - I created a
new user, 'dce_admin', and assigned a 'security'
profiling rule to it, and the (dce_admin, page,
security) values got inserted into the
PRINCIPAL_RULE_ASSOC table.
Just FYI, the locator/rule name security has
special meaning in J2... you
might want to pick another name for your custom rule
to avoid confusion. The
security locator/rule is used when a user has an
expired password and must
select a new one. See details in the archives of the
dev list.
 Now my question: how could I assign a profiling
rule
to a rolename, not a username?
For example, I might want all users with the
'dce_admin_role'  role to use the 'security' rule.
We have discussed this, but it is not been
implemented yet. There is a
global default mechanism in place: if you specify a
PRINCIPAL_RULE_ASSOC
entry with a username of '*, it will be used for
all users. This feature
may not be implemented in this way in the future,
but there certainly will
be some other way to do the same thing.
Randy


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RE: How to create a custom profiling rule?

2004-12-28 Thread Randy Watler
Marina,

David is the Profiler Master, so he is much more qualified to explain its
configuration and inner workings. The source is in components/profiler.

See comments below... 

  It seems that profiling rules are assigned to the
users based on the user names.

Yes.

 At least this is what I
see in the PRINCIPAL_RULE_ASSOC table - I created a
new user, 'dce_admin', and assigned a 'security'
profiling rule to it, and the (dce_admin, page,
security) values got inserted into the
PRINCIPAL_RULE_ASSOC table.

Just FYI, the locator/rule name security has special meaning in J2... you
might want to pick another name for your custom rule to avoid confusion. The
security locator/rule is used when a user has an expired password and must
select a new one. See details in the archives of the dev list.
  
  Now my question: how could I assign a profiling rule
to a rolename, not a username? 
For example, I might want all users with the
'dce_admin_role'  role to use the 'security' rule.

We have discussed this, but it is not been implemented yet. There is a
global default mechanism in place: if you specify a PRINCIPAL_RULE_ASSOC
entry with a username of '*, it will be used for all users. This feature
may not be implemented in this way in the future, but there certainly will
be some other way to do the same thing.

Randy