RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news.
Yes this is a jaws support list and all of us benefit immeasurably from the information we gain. But we're human beings first and this has been demonstrated throughout this thread. How can you not react to someone's medical difficulties and traumas? I know we all wish Carolyn and her family good health and pray her family member has a complete recovery. Now back to our regularly scheduled programming. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride via Jfw Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 10:02 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Daniel McBride Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news. Carolyn: Please email me off list. The address is below. Daniel dlm...@sbcglobal.net -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 6:29 PM To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news. Daniel, I did the Insert Shift R, hope this is off list. I'm still a bit on the crippled side since getting Outlook Saturday night with my new computer. Thanks for your encouragement. Best from, Carolyn -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride via Jfw Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 6:49 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Daniel McBride dlm...@sbcglobal.net Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news. Carolyn: Absolutely nothing to be embarrassed about. Also, would you please contact me off list again. Daniel McBride dlm...@sbcglobal.net -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 4:42 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Carolyn Arnold Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news. I am so sorry. I don't know how yet how to make distribution lists, and was very embarrassed that this came up in this list. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 4:12 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:52 PM To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Subject: Disappointing news. Sharon took Meredith to the Kennedy Kreiger Institute in Baltimore for evaluation and hoped for treatment. After a thorough study of her history, as well as examination, they determined that Meredith was not a candidate for inpatient treatment at their facility. They did make recommendations with regard to adjustment of some of her medication and, yet again, more physical therapy to fight damage that has already had effects on her leg muscles and both sides of her pelvis bone. It was a letdown after clinging to hope for a couple of months like we did, but those were a nice couple of months. Please keep her in your prayers. Best from, Carolyn -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 13/0a5ce791/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
RE: JAWS and Windows 10 issue
I'm going to make an educated guess that it may have to do with the types of video drivers that are installed in the different computers. I have experienced JAWS not identifying the password field at start-up. It never reads that to me correctly either. So far, not a big fan of Windows 10. I'm hopeful it will get better. I seem to remember Windows 8 starting out like this too. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales via Jfw Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 9:56 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Pablo Morales pablocmd2...@gmail.com Subject: RE: JAWS and Windows 10 issue Hi Mike, Well, I am not getting the same problem that you are getting with your jaws cursor. Even though, I have found other problems, but curiously the problems are different in 4 different computers. Would be interesting to know why jaws is working differently in 4 different computers, when all windows 10 installation are new, and all jaws installation are new also. A couple of hours ago, I installed jwindows 10 in a new computer, Lenovo desktop, and jaws has been working very good. I am noticing a problem when I press alt tab when I want to go to other window, but it doesn't happen always. I am still noticing that when the computer is in the log in window, jaws is not able to read the text field where we should type the password. If I press tab, nothing happen, if I try to use insert tab to read where is the Pc cursor, nothing happen. I have to press alt tab two times to make jaws catch the control where is the password field. I really don't understand why all these problems are different in each computer. P -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Mote via Jfw Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 10:54 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Michael Mote Subject: JAWS and Windows 10 issue Hi folks! Not sure if this is a JAWS thing or not, but it seems like I cannot use my JAWS cursor to read things in Windows 10. Is there some setting that I need to adjust for this to happen? I have really enjoyed the helpful information that has been passed along by those of you who are running Windows 10. Thanks a lot for the feedback! -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 13/25cdb4a1/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
RE: disabling forms mode
Hi You can select automatically Forms Mode in the Jaws Settings Center , there is an option named Forms Mode. This is the explanation that FS gives. Hope that helps Use radio buttons in this group to automatically or manually enter Forms Mode. Select Auto to automatically enter Forms Mode when you press TAB, SHIFT+TAB, or the ARROW Keys to move to a control. Auto Forms Mode means that you can freely type in the edit field without having to first press ENTER. When you exit the control, Forms Mode turns off. This functionality can be very useful for new and sighted JAWS users. Auto Forms Mode is on by default. Select Manual to manually control Forms Mode operation. Manual Forms Mode is used by default when using Navigation Quick Keys to jump to a form control, such as F or E for the next form field or edit box. This means that when you move into an edit field or combo box control, you must press ENTER first to type text or select a value. To manually exit Forms Mode, press NUM PAD PLUS or ESC. Manually controlling Forms Mode may be better suited for experienced users. Note: When Forms Mode is on, Say Line or Say All reads all text on the current line. This includes labels and descriptions. -Mensaje original- De: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] En nombre de Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Enviado el: viernes, 14 de agosto de 2015 1:35 Para: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' CC: Carolyn Arnold Asunto: RE: disabling forms mode That does clarify - will share that one with my husband. Best from, Carolyn -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via Jfw Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 7:29 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Michal Nowicki mnowic...@icloud.com Subject: RE: disabling forms mode Hello Sandra, Forms Mode is an absolutely necessary JAWS feature because without it, there would be no way to distinguish between typing on a web page and using navigation quick keys. For instance, if there were no forms mode, JAWS wouldn't know how to respond when you press the letter h because it wouldn't know whether you want to type an h or if you wish to move to the next heading on the page. This obviously is not an issue for sighted people because they navigate the web visually. I hope this clarifies why Forms Mode is an essential component of JAWS and other screen readers. Michal -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter via Jfw Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 4:54 PM To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Sandra Streeter sandrastreeter...@gmail.com Subject: disabling forms mode Hello all: I am a JAWS 16 user who has used JAWS for years. I’ve always found myself frustrated to have to press Enter anytime I want to start or stop entries in Forms Mode; sighted people can just type their info in, without the extra steps. Is there a way I could disable Forms Mode so that I could just type in the needed info? I am a fast typist and find that I go faster than the field can appear or disappear! It would be nice if, upon reaching a form field, JAWS could just say, “to field,” then you immediately type a person’s name, for instance... I’ve always been mystified about the purpose of Forms Mode: what issues was it designed to address? Any responses are appreciated. Sandra Sandra “To love another person is to se the face of God.” (Les Miserables--the musical) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150813/6f9e09a4/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com **Este mensaje y cualquier fichero anexo se dirigen exclusivamente a su destinatario y pueden contener información privilegiada o CONFIDENCIAL. Si no es usted el destinatario indicado, queda notificado de que la utilización, divulgación y/o copia sin autorización está prohibida en virtud de la legislación vigente. Si ha recibido este mensaje por error, le rogamos que nos lo comunique inmediatamente por esta misma vía y proceda a su destrucción.** ***Antes de imprimir este mensaje o sus anexos, asegúrese de que es necesario. El medio ambiente está en nuestra mano.*** ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
Re: VLC media player
You should first press jaws key and 3. then up arrow or left arrow. is how i use vlc to control the volume. El 14/08/2015 a las 2:29, Jim L via Jfw escribió: Heya folks, Am running windows 7 64bit and Jaws 16 and Am familiar with VLC shortcut keys but unfortunately for some reason I cannot control the volume with any keyboard keys except for the mouse scroller wheel. I have checked all settings and control up arrow doesn't do anything for me and ignore keyboard shortcuts is unchecked as well. Is there a way I can have a shortcut key for volume up and down on my keyboard? Any help will be appreciated. Cheers, Jim ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news.
Unfortunate that it does not, since it says it does - guess that makes our computers liars, huh? Best from, Carolyn -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Melissa Stott via Jfw Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 9:09 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Melissa Stott mstot...@verizon.net Subject: Re: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news. Insert Shift R hasn't worked for me for a very long time. -Original Message- From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 7:28 PM To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address,so without sounding like a mod,please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news. Daniel, I did the Insert Shift R, hope this is off list. I'm still a bit on the crippled side since getting Outlook Saturday night with my new computer. Thanks for your encouragement. Best from, Carolyn -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride via Jfw Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 6:49 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Daniel McBride dlm...@sbcglobal.net Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news. Carolyn: Absolutely nothing to be embarrassed about. Also, would you please contact me off list again. Daniel McBride dlm...@sbcglobal.net -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 4:42 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Carolyn Arnold Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news. I am so sorry. I don't know how yet how to make distribution lists, and was very embarrassed that this came up in this list. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 4:12 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:52 PM To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Subject: Disappointing news. Sharon took Meredith to the Kennedy Kreiger Institute in Baltimore for evaluation and hoped for treatment. After a thorough study of her history, as well as examination, they determined that Meredith was not a candidate for inpatient treatment at their facility. They did make recommendations with regard to adjustment of some of her medication and, yet again, more physical therapy to fight damage that has already had effects on her leg muscles and both sides of her pelvis bone. It was a letdown after clinging to hope for a couple of months like we did, but those were a nice couple of months. Please keep her in your prayers. Best from, Carolyn -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 13/0a5ce791/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
RE: disabling forms mode
That's more or less what the recent forms mode changes are meant to do. With the proper settings, you should be able to tab around, going in and out as needed. I enter data on Internet apps every day, and it's something that works for me with minimal effort most of the time. You can even tune your settings for individual sights. JAWS help, or a review of what's new in recent releases, covers this well. Ted -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 7:03 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Carolyn Arnold Subject: RE: disabling forms mode You have a good idea, that I think would be good to be shared with Freedom Scientific. I don't mean to insinuate that they haven't given the problem thought, but your idea sounds like the ideal one. Best from, Carolyn -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter via Jfw Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 5:54 PM To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Sandra Streeter sandrastreeter...@gmail.com Subject: disabling forms mode Hello all: I am a JAWS 16 user who has used JAWS for years. I’ve always found myself frustrated to have to press Enter anytime I want to start or stop entries in Forms Mode; sighted people can just type their info in, without the extra steps. Is there a way I could disable Forms Mode so that I could just type in the needed info? I am a fast typist and find that I go faster than the field can appear or disappear! It would be nice if, upon reaching a form field, JAWS could just say, “to field,” then you immediately type a person’s name, for instance... I’ve always been mystified about the purpose of Forms Mode: what issues was it designed to address? Any responses are appreciated. Sandra Sandra “To love another person is to se the face of God.” (Les Miserables--the musical) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150813/6f9e09a4/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news.
That's never worked on this list, Carolyn, something the JAWS help never thought about. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 7:29 PM To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news. Daniel, I did the Insert Shift R, hope this is off list. I'm still a bit on the crippled side since getting Outlook Saturday night with my new computer. Thanks for your encouragement. Best from, Carolyn -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride via Jfw Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 6:49 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Daniel McBride dlm...@sbcglobal.net Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news. Carolyn: Absolutely nothing to be embarrassed about. Also, would you please contact me off list again. Daniel McBride dlm...@sbcglobal.net -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 4:42 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Carolyn Arnold Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news. I am so sorry. I don't know how yet how to make distribution lists, and was very embarrassed that this came up in this list. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 4:12 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:52 PM To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Subject: Disappointing news. Sharon took Meredith to the Kennedy Kreiger Institute in Baltimore for evaluation and hoped for treatment. After a thorough study of her history, as well as examination, they determined that Meredith was not a candidate for inpatient treatment at their facility. They did make recommendations with regard to adjustment of some of her medication and, yet again, more physical therapy to fight damage that has already had effects on her leg muscles and both sides of her pelvis bone. It was a letdown after clinging to hope for a couple of months like we did, but those were a nice couple of months. Please keep her in your prayers. Best from, Carolyn -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 13/0a5ce791/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
RE: Learning JAWS scripting
Hello Paul, Thank you, this sounds terrific . Could you please post your blog address again? Cheers Kevin. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Paul Martz via Jfw Sent: August-13-15 3:51 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Paul Martz skewmat...@gmail.com Subject: RE: Learning JAWS scripting Thanks, Mario. I like your idea of a sort of, let's learn how to program - using JAWS scripting. It makes a lot of sense to teach basic programming, using JSL as an example. The idea has a lot of merit. While looking for Kenneth Gould article, I found this: http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com/jawsscripting.html Looks like some valuable information. But if you know where the Gould article is, could you email the address? Or post it here? Or to my blog? Or all of the above... LOL I'll put in as much time on this as I can, but it's one of those big projects. I need to review all the available information first. Then actually become competent with JSL, otherwise I'm just blowing hot air. Finally, I can move forward with some kind of wikibook. Anyhow, I'll blog as I go. Thanks for the feedback. -Paul -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mario via Jfw Paul, since no one has responded, here's my thought: in addition to your ideas, what the blind user who wants to get into writing JAWS scripts really needs is to learn basic concepts of programming in order to do the nifty stuff, like using functions, arrays, etc. about 12 years ago when I tried my hand at scripting,there was a document called Everything you wanted to know about scripting, ..., written by Kenneth A. Gould. I think it's still on FS's website or some where else... it was divided into two parts. the first part dealt with the basic stuff, like how to get started, syntax, etc. but the second part dealt with stuff that assumed that the user had prior programming knowledge about concepts, techniques, etc. like the knowledge one would attain after programming for a while... a good while. since you've programmed for about 3 decades,... I think it was you, ... you could fill in the missing explanation that a newbie would need to comprehend before attempting to try their hand at scripting. creating a wiki sounds like a good idea, this way other experienced programmers could also contribute to the cause, working out explainations of different concepts, and whatever else would be important. but it should be that a newbie needs to register and login in order to read and/or contribute. and I'd also suggest that only the experienced programmers have the right to add/modify these materials that teach the needed concepts and explainations, effectively preventing mis information by any newbie. the experienced programmer who would want to contribute would have to send an email request , to you?, to be approved. if this last part doesn't sit well with you, something has to be done to ensure that the newbie is not mis informed of explainations and whatever else would be important to understand. your thoughts? On 8/12/2015 2:53 PM, Paul Martz via Jfw wrote: Hi all. A few days ago, there was some discussion on learning JAWS scripting. I've started learning it myself, and wanted to post some thoughts. First, I've decided to blog about JSL as I learn it. My blog page is here: https://skewmatrix.wordpress.com/ . No advertisements or popups, just straight information about JSL whenever I learn something interesting. The JSL #1 post enumerates the available JAWS Scripting Language resources that I've found. Please post comments if you know of other resources. Second, I'm toying with the idea of starting an online book project about JSL, for example at wikibooks.com. The advantage of putting this book online as a wikibook is that the information would be much more likely to stay up-to-date and relevant; people could immediately correct any typos or mistakes; and of course the book would be free to all and readily available online. I have written technical books in the past, so this wouldn't be too much of a stretch for me. (I just need to learn it first. Ha ha.) The question is: In light of the wonderful documentation from Freedom Scientific that is already available, what kind of content would I / we need to provide in this new online resource in order to make it worthwhile? What would you like to know about JSL that you can't already learn from the FS docs? Would we want something like a brief overview of JAWS scripting? Or maybe a quick start guide to get you up and running with the basics? Or possibly a scripting gems kind of book, with several examples of JAWS scripts? Or a language reference? Or all of the above? Of course, we don't need this, the FS docs are fine is also an acceptable
RE: dual source headsets, where to get?
You can visit headsets.com. They have a model made by Plantronics that does exactly what you're talking about here. I've included a link to the product page below. https://www.headsets.com/headset/plantronics-smh1783-11-headset-and-amplifie r-for-the-visually-impaired/ -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brent Harding via Jfw Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 10:51 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net Subject: dual source headsets, where to get? I am wondering how you go about getting a dual source headset to be able to hear JFW on one side and have a phone call on the other side. Even better, it would be nice if the microphone sent its output back to the phone. I tried getting quotes on a sight called Thumbtack, and I spoke with a guy who answered who does audio engineering on the side. He thinks he could make a cable where I could plug any headset mic in to do this, as long as it had the combination jack that combines the headset and mic on it. If one was going to use a phone that has the same kind of jack as the iPhone, which uses the 4-band, 3.5mm connector, does such a product exist? The closes thing I found years ago was a discontinued Plantronics headset, but it only had the RJ headset plug for the phone side, which may or may not be able to be adapted. Also, I'd like something less expensive than that. I spoke with Plantronics the other day, and it appeared that what they may have had has been discontinued so long ago that it isn't in their system any more. The guy told me that the only dual source headsets like that have to be manually switched between phone call and other source, which doesn't work if you switch to read something and the person on the other end says something you missed. What are people doing to achieve this these days? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 14/fb5884a9/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
Re: dual source headsets, where to get?
what I do when the need arises is to use a single earpiece headset (headphone plus a built in mic) connected to the phone and one earbud plugged into the computer. now I'd be interested in the adaptor the engineer comes up with, as I'd like to have a more elegant headpiece in attempt to eliminate all the wires. On 8/14/2015 11:50 AM, Brent Harding via Jfw wrote: I am wondering how you go about getting a dual source headset to be able to hear JFW on one side and have a phone call on the other side. Even better, it would be nice if the microphone sent its output back to the phone. I tried getting quotes on a sight called Thumbtack, and I spoke with a guy who answered who does audio engineering on the side. He thinks he could make a cable where I could plug any headset mic in to do this, as long as it had the combination jack that combines the headset and mic on it. If one was going to use a phone that has the same kind of jack as the iPhone, which uses the 4-band, 3.5mm connector, does such a product exist? The closes thing I found years ago was a discontinued Plantronics headset, but it only had the RJ headset plug for the phone side, which may or may not be able to be adapted. Also, I'd like something less expensive than that. I spoke with Plantronics the other day, and it appeared that what they may have had has been discontinued so long ago that it isn't in their system any more. The guy told me that the only dual source headsets like that have to be manually switched between phone call and other source, which doesn't work if you switch to read something and the person on the other end says something you missed. What are people doing to achieve this these days? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150814/fb5884a9/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
Re: dual source headsets, where to get?
I think I spoke with the same person I got on the line the other day, and she said this thing sounds like something very new to the market she didn't know they had before. As for getting a custom cable or set modified, one guy seemed confident he might be able to do it, while the other kept me on the phone talking about random computer stuff they did in the 80's and other stuff I got too tired late to understand his muffled voice any more. He claimed that the proper headsets, such as earpods, have an analog to digital converter that would need to be accounted for, but I doubt other 4-pin headsets even bother with something like this. I'm definitely not going with the guy who didn't know how the fourth pin works, thinking it would mix with the speaker part of the ear pieces. Circuit boards in a box are probably a too complex way to fix this simple issue. - Original Message - From: Michael Mote via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:40 PM Subject: RE: dual source headsets, where to get? Not good, when the CSR doesn't know anything about the product you're asking about. I suspect they don't sell too many of these headsets. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brent Harding via Jfw Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:24 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net Subject: Re: dual source headsets, where to get? I just spoke with them. The lady I got didn't think at first that this one did two sources at all, but I had her look at the features part. She said that they have no 3.5mm connection adapter for the phone side, but she said she would email their shipping people to see if they can get such a thing. So much for Plantronics telling me that no such product existed. - Original Message - From: Michael Mote via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 12:31 PM Subject: RE: dual source headsets, where to get? Yes, you may want to contact headsets.com customer support and ask them about that. They may be able to steer you in the right direction. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brent Harding via Jfw Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 12:13 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net Subject: Re: dual source headsets, where to get? Oh, OK. I wonder if they make a way to have it hook into the 4 band 3.5mm jacks on the phone side? I think I get how this is supposed to work where some phones had the removable cord on the handset part, and you plug a cable from the amp part into this instead, and the original phone cable in to the other side, sort of like answering machines did. - Original Message - From: Michael Mote via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 12:00 PM Subject: RE: dual source headsets, where to get? The Amplifier is for the phone itself. The Amp plugs into where the handset would be, and you run the headset that way. I've used it before, and they work Ok. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brent Harding via Jfw Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 11:35 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net Subject: Re: dual source headsets, where to get? I am surprised Plantronics never mentioned that one. Maybe there isn't a way to have a 3.5mm 4-ring plug for the phone end. I don't care at all about the play and fastforward buttons. I wonder why one needs an amplifier at all unless you were hearing impaired. - Original Message - From: Michael Mote via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 11:16 AM Subject: RE: dual source headsets, where to get? You can visit headsets.com. They have a model made by Plantronics that does exactly what you're talking about here. I've included a link to the product page below. https://www.headsets.com/headset/plantronics-smh1783-11-headset-and-amplifie r-for-the-visually-impaired/ -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brent Harding via Jfw Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 10:51 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net Subject: dual source headsets, where to get? I am wondering how you go about getting a dual source headset to be able to hear JFW on one side and have a phone call on the other side.
RE: dual source headsets, where to get?
Not good, when the CSR doesn't know anything about the product you're asking about. I suspect they don't sell too many of these headsets. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brent Harding via Jfw Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:24 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net Subject: Re: dual source headsets, where to get? I just spoke with them. The lady I got didn't think at first that this one did two sources at all, but I had her look at the features part. She said that they have no 3.5mm connection adapter for the phone side, but she said she would email their shipping people to see if they can get such a thing. So much for Plantronics telling me that no such product existed. - Original Message - From: Michael Mote via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 12:31 PM Subject: RE: dual source headsets, where to get? Yes, you may want to contact headsets.com customer support and ask them about that. They may be able to steer you in the right direction. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brent Harding via Jfw Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 12:13 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net Subject: Re: dual source headsets, where to get? Oh, OK. I wonder if they make a way to have it hook into the 4 band 3.5mm jacks on the phone side? I think I get how this is supposed to work where some phones had the removable cord on the handset part, and you plug a cable from the amp part into this instead, and the original phone cable in to the other side, sort of like answering machines did. - Original Message - From: Michael Mote via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 12:00 PM Subject: RE: dual source headsets, where to get? The Amplifier is for the phone itself. The Amp plugs into where the handset would be, and you run the headset that way. I've used it before, and they work Ok. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brent Harding via Jfw Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 11:35 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net Subject: Re: dual source headsets, where to get? I am surprised Plantronics never mentioned that one. Maybe there isn't a way to have a 3.5mm 4-ring plug for the phone end. I don't care at all about the play and fastforward buttons. I wonder why one needs an amplifier at all unless you were hearing impaired. - Original Message - From: Michael Mote via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 11:16 AM Subject: RE: dual source headsets, where to get? You can visit headsets.com. They have a model made by Plantronics that does exactly what you're talking about here. I've included a link to the product page below. https://www.headsets.com/headset/plantronics-smh1783-11-headset-and-amplifie r-for-the-visually-impaired/ -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brent Harding via Jfw Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 10:51 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net Subject: dual source headsets, where to get? I am wondering how you go about getting a dual source headset to be able to hear JFW on one side and have a phone call on the other side. Even better, it would be nice if the microphone sent its output back to the phone. I tried getting quotes on a sight called Thumbtack, and I spoke with a guy who answered who does audio engineering on the side. He thinks he could make a cable where I could plug any headset mic in to do this, as long as it had the combination jack that combines the headset and mic on it. If one was going to use a phone that has the same kind of jack as the iPhone, which uses the 4-band, 3.5mm connector, does such a product exist? The closes thing I found years ago was a discontinued Plantronics headset, but it only had the RJ headset plug for the phone side, which may or may not be able to be adapted. Also, I'd like something less expensive than that. I spoke with Plantronics the other day, and it appeared that what they may have had has been discontinued so long ago that it isn't in their system any more. The guy told me that the only dual source headsets like that have to be manually switched between phone call and other source, which doesn't work if you switch to
RE: dual source headsets, where to get?
Yes, you may want to contact headsets.com customer support and ask them about that. They may be able to steer you in the right direction. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brent Harding via Jfw Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 12:13 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net Subject: Re: dual source headsets, where to get? Oh, OK. I wonder if they make a way to have it hook into the 4 band 3.5mm jacks on the phone side? I think I get how this is supposed to work where some phones had the removable cord on the handset part, and you plug a cable from the amp part into this instead, and the original phone cable in to the other side, sort of like answering machines did. - Original Message - From: Michael Mote via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 12:00 PM Subject: RE: dual source headsets, where to get? The Amplifier is for the phone itself. The Amp plugs into where the handset would be, and you run the headset that way. I've used it before, and they work Ok. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brent Harding via Jfw Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 11:35 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net Subject: Re: dual source headsets, where to get? I am surprised Plantronics never mentioned that one. Maybe there isn't a way to have a 3.5mm 4-ring plug for the phone end. I don't care at all about the play and fastforward buttons. I wonder why one needs an amplifier at all unless you were hearing impaired. - Original Message - From: Michael Mote via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 11:16 AM Subject: RE: dual source headsets, where to get? You can visit headsets.com. They have a model made by Plantronics that does exactly what you're talking about here. I've included a link to the product page below. https://www.headsets.com/headset/plantronics-smh1783-11-headset-and-amplifie r-for-the-visually-impaired/ -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brent Harding via Jfw Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 10:51 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net Subject: dual source headsets, where to get? I am wondering how you go about getting a dual source headset to be able to hear JFW on one side and have a phone call on the other side. Even better, it would be nice if the microphone sent its output back to the phone. I tried getting quotes on a sight called Thumbtack, and I spoke with a guy who answered who does audio engineering on the side. He thinks he could make a cable where I could plug any headset mic in to do this, as long as it had the combination jack that combines the headset and mic on it. If one was going to use a phone that has the same kind of jack as the iPhone, which uses the 4-band, 3.5mm connector, does such a product exist? The closes thing I found years ago was a discontinued Plantronics headset, but it only had the RJ headset plug for the phone side, which may or may not be able to be adapted. Also, I'd like something less expensive than that. I spoke with Plantronics the other day, and it appeared that what they may have had has been discontinued so long ago that it isn't in their system any more. The guy told me that the only dual source headsets like that have to be manually switched between phone call and other source, which doesn't work if you switch to read something and the person on the other end says something you missed. What are people doing to achieve this these days? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 14/fb5884a9/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
RE: dual source headsets, where to get?
The Amplifier is for the phone itself. The Amp plugs into where the handset would be, and you run the headset that way. I've used it before, and they work Ok. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brent Harding via Jfw Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 11:35 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net Subject: Re: dual source headsets, where to get? I am surprised Plantronics never mentioned that one. Maybe there isn't a way to have a 3.5mm 4-ring plug for the phone end. I don't care at all about the play and fastforward buttons. I wonder why one needs an amplifier at all unless you were hearing impaired. - Original Message - From: Michael Mote via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 11:16 AM Subject: RE: dual source headsets, where to get? You can visit headsets.com. They have a model made by Plantronics that does exactly what you're talking about here. I've included a link to the product page below. https://www.headsets.com/headset/plantronics-smh1783-11-headset-and-amplifie r-for-the-visually-impaired/ -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brent Harding via Jfw Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 10:51 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net Subject: dual source headsets, where to get? I am wondering how you go about getting a dual source headset to be able to hear JFW on one side and have a phone call on the other side. Even better, it would be nice if the microphone sent its output back to the phone. I tried getting quotes on a sight called Thumbtack, and I spoke with a guy who answered who does audio engineering on the side. He thinks he could make a cable where I could plug any headset mic in to do this, as long as it had the combination jack that combines the headset and mic on it. If one was going to use a phone that has the same kind of jack as the iPhone, which uses the 4-band, 3.5mm connector, does such a product exist? The closes thing I found years ago was a discontinued Plantronics headset, but it only had the RJ headset plug for the phone side, which may or may not be able to be adapted. Also, I'd like something less expensive than that. I spoke with Plantronics the other day, and it appeared that what they may have had has been discontinued so long ago that it isn't in their system any more. The guy told me that the only dual source headsets like that have to be manually switched between phone call and other source, which doesn't work if you switch to read something and the person on the other end says something you missed. What are people doing to achieve this these days? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 14/fb5884a9/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
Re: dual source headsets, where to get?
Surely there is a converter somewhere to convert it to the 3.5mm. On 8/14/2015 12:17 PM, Brent Harding via Jfw wrote: He was planning on some kind of cable with the iPhone headset style 3.5mm connection on one side, a regular 3.5mm connector like computers use on the other, and the other end of the cable would plug in to any iPhone compatible headset mic. It's looking about half the price of the nearest solution I found elsewhere, which was the Plantronics SMH-1783-11, which is more for corded phones to go between the handset and phone. I don't think the phone handset connector can be adapted for iPhones though. - Original Message - From: Mario via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Mario mrb...@hotmail.com Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 11:21 AM Subject: Re: dual source headsets, where to get? what I do when the need arises is to use a single earpiece headset (headphone plus a built in mic) connected to the phone and one earbud plugged into the computer. now I'd be interested in the adaptor the engineer comes up with, as I'd like to have a more elegant headpiece in attempt to eliminate all the wires. On 8/14/2015 11:50 AM, Brent Harding via Jfw wrote: I am wondering how you go about getting a dual source headset to be able to hear JFW on one side and have a phone call on the other side. Even better, it would be nice if the microphone sent its output back to the phone. I tried getting quotes on a sight called Thumbtack, and I spoke with a guy who answered who does audio engineering on the side. He thinks he could make a cable where I could plug any headset mic in to do this, as long as it had the combination jack that combines the headset and mic on it. If one was going to use a phone that has the same kind of jack as the iPhone, which uses the 4-band, 3.5mm connector, does such a product exist? The closes thing I found years ago was a discontinued Plantronics headset, but it only had the RJ headset plug for the phone side, which may or may not be able to be adapted. Also, I'd like something less expensive than that. I spoke with Plantronics the other day, and it appeared that what they may have had has been discontinued so long ago that it isn't in their system any more. The guy told me that the only dual source headsets like that have to be manually switched between phone call and other source, which doesn't work if you switch to read something and the person on the other end says something you missed. What are people doing to achieve this these days? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150814/fb5884a9/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com . ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Count me in. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 4:21 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Kimsan Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news. We could do that too! I just wanted to tsstop the hate before it got there lol. There's always one spoiled apple in every bunch. Pray away! -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 1:15 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) ted.li...@ky.gov Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news. In fact, we might even pray, as requested -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 4:12 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Kimsan Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:52 PM To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Subject: Disappointing news. Sharon took Meredith to the Kennedy Kreiger Institute in Baltimore for evaluation and hoped for treatment. After a thorough study of her history, as well as examination, they determined that Meredith was not a candidate for inpatient treatment at their facility. They did make recommendations with regard to adjustment of some of her medication and, yet again, more physical therapy to fight damage that has already had effects on her leg muscles and both sides of her pelvis bone. It was a letdown after clinging to hope for a couple of months like we did, but those were a nice couple of months. Please keep her in your prayers. Best from, Carolyn -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 13/0a5ce791/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
Re: dual source headsets, where to get?
Oh, OK. I wonder if they make a way to have it hook into the 4 band 3.5mm jacks on the phone side? I think I get how this is supposed to work where some phones had the removable cord on the handset part, and you plug a cable from the amp part into this instead, and the original phone cable in to the other side, sort of like answering machines did. - Original Message - From: Michael Mote via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 12:00 PM Subject: RE: dual source headsets, where to get? The Amplifier is for the phone itself. The Amp plugs into where the handset would be, and you run the headset that way. I've used it before, and they work Ok. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brent Harding via Jfw Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 11:35 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net Subject: Re: dual source headsets, where to get? I am surprised Plantronics never mentioned that one. Maybe there isn't a way to have a 3.5mm 4-ring plug for the phone end. I don't care at all about the play and fastforward buttons. I wonder why one needs an amplifier at all unless you were hearing impaired. - Original Message - From: Michael Mote via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 11:16 AM Subject: RE: dual source headsets, where to get? You can visit headsets.com. They have a model made by Plantronics that does exactly what you're talking about here. I've included a link to the product page below. https://www.headsets.com/headset/plantronics-smh1783-11-headset-and-amplifie r-for-the-visually-impaired/ -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brent Harding via Jfw Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 10:51 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net Subject: dual source headsets, where to get? I am wondering how you go about getting a dual source headset to be able to hear JFW on one side and have a phone call on the other side. Even better, it would be nice if the microphone sent its output back to the phone. I tried getting quotes on a sight called Thumbtack, and I spoke with a guy who answered who does audio engineering on the side. He thinks he could make a cable where I could plug any headset mic in to do this, as long as it had the combination jack that combines the headset and mic on it. If one was going to use a phone that has the same kind of jack as the iPhone, which uses the 4-band, 3.5mm connector, does such a product exist? The closes thing I found years ago was a discontinued Plantronics headset, but it only had the RJ headset plug for the phone side, which may or may not be able to be adapted. Also, I'd like something less expensive than that. I spoke with Plantronics the other day, and it appeared that what they may have had has been discontinued so long ago that it isn't in their system any more. The guy told me that the only dual source headsets like that have to be manually switched between phone call and other source, which doesn't work if you switch to read something and the person on the other end says something you missed. What are people doing to achieve this these days? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 14/fb5884a9/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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It would seem so, whatever plug the removable cord desk phones use in to the 4 pin 3.5mm. I called Headsets.com, and the woman that answered said she would contact their shipping people to see if it exists. It is seeming to be going to be a hard solution to a simple problem. She said that the phone cord to 3.5 adapter can't be done because you have the power and stuff that is typically in a desk handset. - Original Message - From: Ward Dudley via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Ward Dudley whdud...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:26 PM Subject: Re: dual source headsets, where to get? Surely there is a converter somewhere to convert it to the 3.5mm. On 8/14/2015 12:17 PM, Brent Harding via Jfw wrote: He was planning on some kind of cable with the iPhone headset style 3.5mm connection on one side, a regular 3.5mm connector like computers use on the other, and the other end of the cable would plug in to any iPhone compatible headset mic. It's looking about half the price of the nearest solution I found elsewhere, which was the Plantronics SMH-1783-11, which is more for corded phones to go between the handset and phone. I don't think the phone handset connector can be adapted for iPhones though. - Original Message - From: Mario via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Mario mrb...@hotmail.com Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 11:21 AM Subject: Re: dual source headsets, where to get? what I do when the need arises is to use a single earpiece headset (headphone plus a built in mic) connected to the phone and one earbud plugged into the computer. now I'd be interested in the adaptor the engineer comes up with, as I'd like to have a more elegant headpiece in attempt to eliminate all the wires. On 8/14/2015 11:50 AM, Brent Harding via Jfw wrote: I am wondering how you go about getting a dual source headset to be able to hear JFW on one side and have a phone call on the other side. Even better, it would be nice if the microphone sent its output back to the phone. I tried getting quotes on a sight called Thumbtack, and I spoke with a guy who answered who does audio engineering on the side. He thinks he could make a cable where I could plug any headset mic in to do this, as long as it had the combination jack that combines the headset and mic on it. If one was going to use a phone that has the same kind of jack as the iPhone, which uses the 4-band, 3.5mm connector, does such a product exist? The closes thing I found years ago was a discontinued Plantronics headset, but it only had the RJ headset plug for the phone side, which may or may not be able to be adapted. Also, I'd like something less expensive than that. I spoke with Plantronics the other day, and it appeared that what they may have had has been discontinued so long ago that it isn't in their system any more. The guy told me that the only dual source headsets like that have to be manually switched between phone call and other source, which doesn't work if you switch to read something and the person on the other end says something you missed. What are people doing to achieve this these days? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150814/fb5884a9/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com . ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
Re: dual source headsets, where to get?
I am surprised Plantronics never mentioned that one. Maybe there isn't a way to have a 3.5mm 4-ring plug for the phone end. I don't care at all about the play and fastforward buttons. I wonder why one needs an amplifier at all unless you were hearing impaired. - Original Message - From: Michael Mote via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 11:16 AM Subject: RE: dual source headsets, where to get? You can visit headsets.com. They have a model made by Plantronics that does exactly what you're talking about here. I've included a link to the product page below. https://www.headsets.com/headset/plantronics-smh1783-11-headset-and-amplifie r-for-the-visually-impaired/ -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brent Harding via Jfw Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 10:51 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net Subject: dual source headsets, where to get? I am wondering how you go about getting a dual source headset to be able to hear JFW on one side and have a phone call on the other side. Even better, it would be nice if the microphone sent its output back to the phone. I tried getting quotes on a sight called Thumbtack, and I spoke with a guy who answered who does audio engineering on the side. He thinks he could make a cable where I could plug any headset mic in to do this, as long as it had the combination jack that combines the headset and mic on it. If one was going to use a phone that has the same kind of jack as the iPhone, which uses the 4-band, 3.5mm connector, does such a product exist? The closes thing I found years ago was a discontinued Plantronics headset, but it only had the RJ headset plug for the phone side, which may or may not be able to be adapted. Also, I'd like something less expensive than that. I spoke with Plantronics the other day, and it appeared that what they may have had has been discontinued so long ago that it isn't in their system any more. The guy told me that the only dual source headsets like that have to be manually switched between phone call and other source, which doesn't work if you switch to read something and the person on the other end says something you missed. What are people doing to achieve this these days? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 14/fb5884a9/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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He was planning on some kind of cable with the iPhone headset style 3.5mm connection on one side, a regular 3.5mm connector like computers use on the other, and the other end of the cable would plug in to any iPhone compatible headset mic. It's looking about half the price of the nearest solution I found elsewhere, which was the Plantronics SMH-1783-11, which is more for corded phones to go between the handset and phone. I don't think the phone handset connector can be adapted for iPhones though. - Original Message - From: Mario via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Mario mrb...@hotmail.com Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 11:21 AM Subject: Re: dual source headsets, where to get? what I do when the need arises is to use a single earpiece headset (headphone plus a built in mic) connected to the phone and one earbud plugged into the computer. now I'd be interested in the adaptor the engineer comes up with, as I'd like to have a more elegant headpiece in attempt to eliminate all the wires. On 8/14/2015 11:50 AM, Brent Harding via Jfw wrote: I am wondering how you go about getting a dual source headset to be able to hear JFW on one side and have a phone call on the other side. Even better, it would be nice if the microphone sent its output back to the phone. I tried getting quotes on a sight called Thumbtack, and I spoke with a guy who answered who does audio engineering on the side. He thinks he could make a cable where I could plug any headset mic in to do this, as long as it had the combination jack that combines the headset and mic on it. If one was going to use a phone that has the same kind of jack as the iPhone, which uses the 4-band, 3.5mm connector, does such a product exist? The closes thing I found years ago was a discontinued Plantronics headset, but it only had the RJ headset plug for the phone side, which may or may not be able to be adapted. Also, I'd like something less expensive than that. I spoke with Plantronics the other day, and it appeared that what they may have had has been discontinued so long ago that it isn't in their system any more. The guy told me that the only dual source headsets like that have to be manually switched between phone call and other source, which doesn't work if you switch to read something and the person on the other end says something you missed. What are people doing to achieve this these days? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150814/fb5884a9/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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I just spoke with them. The lady I got didn't think at first that this one did two sources at all, but I had her look at the features part. She said that they have no 3.5mm connection adapter for the phone side, but she said she would email their shipping people to see if they can get such a thing. So much for Plantronics telling me that no such product existed. - Original Message - From: Michael Mote via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 12:31 PM Subject: RE: dual source headsets, where to get? Yes, you may want to contact headsets.com customer support and ask them about that. They may be able to steer you in the right direction. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brent Harding via Jfw Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 12:13 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net Subject: Re: dual source headsets, where to get? Oh, OK. I wonder if they make a way to have it hook into the 4 band 3.5mm jacks on the phone side? I think I get how this is supposed to work where some phones had the removable cord on the handset part, and you plug a cable from the amp part into this instead, and the original phone cable in to the other side, sort of like answering machines did. - Original Message - From: Michael Mote via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 12:00 PM Subject: RE: dual source headsets, where to get? The Amplifier is for the phone itself. The Amp plugs into where the handset would be, and you run the headset that way. I've used it before, and they work Ok. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brent Harding via Jfw Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 11:35 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net Subject: Re: dual source headsets, where to get? I am surprised Plantronics never mentioned that one. Maybe there isn't a way to have a 3.5mm 4-ring plug for the phone end. I don't care at all about the play and fastforward buttons. I wonder why one needs an amplifier at all unless you were hearing impaired. - Original Message - From: Michael Mote via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 11:16 AM Subject: RE: dual source headsets, where to get? You can visit headsets.com. They have a model made by Plantronics that does exactly what you're talking about here. I've included a link to the product page below. https://www.headsets.com/headset/plantronics-smh1783-11-headset-and-amplifie r-for-the-visually-impaired/ -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brent Harding via Jfw Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 10:51 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net Subject: dual source headsets, where to get? I am wondering how you go about getting a dual source headset to be able to hear JFW on one side and have a phone call on the other side. Even better, it would be nice if the microphone sent its output back to the phone. I tried getting quotes on a sight called Thumbtack, and I spoke with a guy who answered who does audio engineering on the side. He thinks he could make a cable where I could plug any headset mic in to do this, as long as it had the combination jack that combines the headset and mic on it. If one was going to use a phone that has the same kind of jack as the iPhone, which uses the 4-band, 3.5mm connector, does such a product exist? The closes thing I found years ago was a discontinued Plantronics headset, but it only had the RJ headset plug for the phone side, which may or may not be able to be adapted. Also, I'd like something less expensive than that. I spoke with Plantronics the other day, and it appeared that what they may have had has been discontinued so long ago that it isn't in their system any more. The guy told me that the only dual source headsets like that have to be manually switched between phone call and other source, which doesn't work if you switch to read something and the person on the other end says something you missed. What are people doing to achieve this these days? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 14/fb5884a9/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___
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disabling Forms Mode
Hope no one minds a somewhat-high-maintenance member... I am part-self-taught, part-trained-by-state-agency, part trained-using-audio-tutorials, and certain concepts are still either fuzzy or untried, despite my years of JAWS experience! I am also a highly visual learner, and process things best with a combination of Braille notes and hands-on... BTW, does anyone know if JAWS training materials are available in Braille? I do have the quick-ref booklet, but it’s of limited use. One question I’ve had for years: when materials mention an “element,” what exactly is that? Also, is there a keystroke for skipping to new messages on a website such as ours? Really appreciate everyone’s feedback—I am the type that needs to know why things work the way they do, before really mastering concepts! Far more insight than I have previously. I will also try the Automatic setting again; didn’t seem to change things, or maybe I just didn’t understand it completely... Also, Kevin, I changed the Forms Mode sound to a long match-strike, due to some mild Asperger’s; it may be that I will have to select the next-least-intrusive sound, if the softness of that sound is making it harder for me to negotiate using Forms Mode. It was a nice idea, but not necessarily the most practical (LOL)! So, there’s no longer a “pop,” which I did experience as jarring; will have to see what other choices I have. Carolyn, though I’m not familiar with the back story, I will keep Meredith in prayer—I’m a prayin’ woman. Your scenario happened to me just a few weeks ago, when I was trying to email my sister-in-law about a lunch date and ended up sending it to my mom instead—oops! No worries. Thanks! Sandra “To love another person is to se the face of God.” (Les Miserables--the musical) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150814/6daaf3b6/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
RE: dual source headsets, where to get?
It would be so great to have something like that. I remember back in the 90's, when I had three scissor head sets taped together, wore all of them - one for Window Eyes, and the others for two machines from which I received dictation for medical records. Best from, Carolyn -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Mote via Jfw Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 12:16 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com Subject: RE: dual source headsets, where to get? You can visit headsets.com. They have a model made by Plantronics that does exactly what you're talking about here. I've included a link to the product page below. https://www.headsets.com/headset/plantronics-smh1783-11-headset-and-amplifie r-for-the-visually-impaired/ -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brent Harding via Jfw Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 10:51 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net Subject: dual source headsets, where to get? I am wondering how you go about getting a dual source headset to be able to hear JFW on one side and have a phone call on the other side. Even better, it would be nice if the microphone sent its output back to the phone. I tried getting quotes on a sight called Thumbtack, and I spoke with a guy who answered who does audio engineering on the side. He thinks he could make a cable where I could plug any headset mic in to do this, as long as it had the combination jack that combines the headset and mic on it. If one was going to use a phone that has the same kind of jack as the iPhone, which uses the 4-band, 3.5mm connector, does such a product exist? The closes thing I found years ago was a discontinued Plantronics headset, but it only had the RJ headset plug for the phone side, which may or may not be able to be adapted. Also, I'd like something less expensive than that. I spoke with Plantronics the other day, and it appeared that what they may have had has been discontinued so long ago that it isn't in their system any more. The guy told me that the only dual source headsets like that have to be manually switched between phone call and other source, which doesn't work if you switch to read something and the person on the other end says something you missed. What are people doing to achieve this these days? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 14/fb5884a9/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
Re: dual source headsets, where to get?
Wow! The deal with the little cheap single ear earpieces is that the volume level on them is pretty quiet. It might be that the nearest talking ATM has low output when you turn it to high, but the 3 things together sounds like it would be uncomfortable. - Original Message - From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 5:47 PM Subject: RE: dual source headsets, where to get? It would be so great to have something like that. I remember back in the 90's, when I had three scissor head sets taped together, wore all of them - one for Window Eyes, and the others for two machines from which I received dictation for medical records. Best from, Carolyn -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Mote via Jfw Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 12:16 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com Subject: RE: dual source headsets, where to get? You can visit headsets.com. They have a model made by Plantronics that does exactly what you're talking about here. I've included a link to the product page below. https://www.headsets.com/headset/plantronics-smh1783-11-headset-and-amplifie r-for-the-visually-impaired/ -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brent Harding via Jfw Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 10:51 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net Subject: dual source headsets, where to get? I am wondering how you go about getting a dual source headset to be able to hear JFW on one side and have a phone call on the other side. Even better, it would be nice if the microphone sent its output back to the phone. I tried getting quotes on a sight called Thumbtack, and I spoke with a guy who answered who does audio engineering on the side. He thinks he could make a cable where I could plug any headset mic in to do this, as long as it had the combination jack that combines the headset and mic on it. If one was going to use a phone that has the same kind of jack as the iPhone, which uses the 4-band, 3.5mm connector, does such a product exist? The closes thing I found years ago was a discontinued Plantronics headset, but it only had the RJ headset plug for the phone side, which may or may not be able to be adapted. Also, I'd like something less expensive than that. I spoke with Plantronics the other day, and it appeared that what they may have had has been discontinued so long ago that it isn't in their system any more. The guy told me that the only dual source headsets like that have to be manually switched between phone call and other source, which doesn't work if you switch to read something and the person on the other end says something you missed. What are people doing to achieve this these days? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 14/fb5884a9/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
Intro
Hello all. I have a toshiba laptop with jaws 16 on it. I hope to learn alot from this list. From Michael. ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
Re: VLC media player
Jim, You're not doing it wrong. I've found the only way to get Control Up or Down to work is to use the JAWS Pass through key combination, JAWS Key 3. I just discovered the mouse wheel thing and personally I find that much easier. Brad On 8/14/2015 2:29 AM, Jim L via Jfw wrote: Heya folks, Am running windows 7 64bit and Jaws 16 and Am familiar with VLC shortcut keys but unfortunately for some reason I cannot control the volume with any keyboard keys except for the mouse scroller wheel. I have checked all settings and control up arrow doesn't do anything for me and ignore keyboard shortcuts is unchecked as well. Is there a way I can have a shortcut key for volume up and down on my keyboard? Any help will be appreciated. Cheers, Jim ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com -- Brad Martin b...@formyfriends.org mailto:b...@formyfriends.org My Facebook page where I post online shopping coupons and deals: facebook.com/ucoupons http://www.facebook.com/ucoupons My SmarterBucks signup link http://bit.ly/1w5FCPu -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150814/51cb5360/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
RE: Intro
Hello Michael, and welcome to the list. You best keep your ears clean and open because these guys are sharp and you will learn plenty. Daniel -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Chopra via Jfw Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 7:40 PM To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Michael Chopra Subject: Intro Hello all. I have a toshiba laptop with jaws 16 on it. I hope to learn a lot from this list. From Michael. ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
RE: JAWS and Windows 10 issue
Hmmm, if the video driver is the problem. How can we know which is the better video driver? Or how can we know which video driver we should install in our computers? -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Mote via Jfw Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 7:07 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Michael Mote Subject: RE: JAWS and Windows 10 issue I'm going to make an educated guess that it may have to do with the types of video drivers that are installed in the different computers. I have experienced JAWS not identifying the password field at start-up. It never reads that to me correctly either. So far, not a big fan of Windows 10. I'm hopeful it will get better. I seem to remember Windows 8 starting out like this too. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales via Jfw Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 9:56 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Pablo Morales pablocmd2...@gmail.com Subject: RE: JAWS and Windows 10 issue Hi Mike, Well, I am not getting the same problem that you are getting with your jaws cursor. Even though, I have found other problems, but curiously the problems are different in 4 different computers. Would be interesting to know why jaws is working differently in 4 different computers, when all windows 10 installation are new, and all jaws installation are new also. A couple of hours ago, I installed jwindows 10 in a new computer, Lenovo desktop, and jaws has been working very good. I am noticing a problem when I press alt tab when I want to go to other window, but it doesn't happen always. I am still noticing that when the computer is in the log in window, jaws is not able to read the text field where we should type the password. If I press tab, nothing happen, if I try to use insert tab to read where is the Pc cursor, nothing happen. I have to press alt tab two times to make jaws catch the control where is the password field. I really don't understand why all these problems are different in each computer. P -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Mote via Jfw Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 10:54 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Michael Mote Subject: JAWS and Windows 10 issue Hi folks! Not sure if this is a JAWS thing or not, but it seems like I cannot use my JAWS cursor to read things in Windows 10. Is there some setting that I need to adjust for this to happen? I have really enjoyed the helpful information that has been passed along by those of you who are running Windows 10. Thanks a lot for the feedback! -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 13/25cdb4a1/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
dual source headsets, where to get?
I am wondering how you go about getting a dual source headset to be able to hear JFW on one side and have a phone call on the other side. Even better, it would be nice if the microphone sent its output back to the phone. I tried getting quotes on a sight called Thumbtack, and I spoke with a guy who answered who does audio engineering on the side. He thinks he could make a cable where I could plug any headset mic in to do this, as long as it had the combination jack that combines the headset and mic on it. If one was going to use a phone that has the same kind of jack as the iPhone, which uses the 4-band, 3.5mm connector, does such a product exist? The closes thing I found years ago was a discontinued Plantronics headset, but it only had the RJ headset plug for the phone side, which may or may not be able to be adapted. Also, I'd like something less expensive than that. I spoke with Plantronics the other day, and it appeared that what they may have had has been discontinued so long ag o that it isn't in their system any more. The guy told me that the only dual source headsets like that have to be manually switched between phone call and other source, which doesn't work if you switch to read something and the person on the other end says something you missed. What are people doing to achieve this these days? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150814/fb5884a9/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news.
Carolyn, sounds as if the mistake is working out pretty well. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 5:42 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Carolyn Arnold Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news. I am so sorry. I don't know how yet how to make distribution lists, and was very embarrassed that this came up in this list. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 4:12 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com Subject: RE: this was obviously sent to the wrong address, so without sounding like a mod, please don't come down on her. was Disappointing news. -Original Message- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:52 PM To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net Subject: Disappointing news. Sharon took Meredith to the Kennedy Kreiger Institute in Baltimore for evaluation and hoped for treatment. After a thorough study of her history, as well as examination, they determined that Meredith was not a candidate for inpatient treatment at their facility. They did make recommendations with regard to adjustment of some of her medication and, yet again, more physical therapy to fight damage that has already had effects on her leg muscles and both sides of her pelvis bone. It was a letdown after clinging to hope for a couple of months like we did, but those were a nice couple of months. Please keep her in your prayers. Best from, Carolyn -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 13/0a5ce791/attachment.html ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ___ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
