Re: Malware Bites with Jaws

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Mike,

I wish I had warned you about purchasing the premium versions. I did exactly 
the same a couple months ago for our two computers. Same result -- Could not 
use them and requested a refund. Perhaps they will get the hint if that 
happens enough?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike B via Jfw" 
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." 
Cc: "Mike B" 
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: Malware Bites with Jaws


Hi Jim,

If you're running MalwareBytes 1.75 I would stifck with it.  I've tried the
newer versions on several occasions & although you can get it to scan &
review the scan results now, you still can't create a schedule for scanning
or updating.  I spent the better part of yesterday trying to get MWB to work
for me using 2 different screenreading programs, Jaws & NVDA, without
success.  I ended up requesting a refund for the 2 Premium licenses I
purchased.
Take care.
Mike

- Original Message - 
From: Jim Hamilton via Jfw
To: 'Tony' ; 'Tim Ford' ; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Jim Hamilton
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 10:31 AM
Subject: RE: Malware Bites with Jaws


I may have missed something on this topic.

Is this MWB version more accessible than following versions?  If so, should
I uninstall the MWB which I now have, and install this version instead?

By the way, I had the same problem, as below, when I tried to go to the link
you provided.

Jim H

-Original Message-
From: Tony [mailto:t...@k5twz.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 5:40 PM
To: 'Tim Ford' ; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'

Subject: RE: Malware Bites with Jaws

Where on the site can you find the 1.75 version?  I found the changelog for
it but not the download.

Thanks

Tony


-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ford via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 7:26 AM
To: cecropi...@att.net; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Malware Bites with Jaws

And you can easily download that earlier version from the Malware Bytes web
site.  When installing, be sure to answer no to any request to update the
version, or else you will be right back to where you started!  However, you
will receive a separate prompt about updating the definitions, and you
answer yes to that.
Tim Ford


-Original Message-
From: cecropia64--- via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 2:28 AM
To: Charles Krugman ; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Malware Bites with Jaws

You can still use malwarbytes but you have togo back to version 1.75.
Anything later than that won't work, yet.  Good luck.

Stew
On 8/30/2014 4:54 AM, Charles Krugman via Jfw wrote:
> Are there any comparable programs to Malware bytes that work with JAWS 15.

> Since Malware Bytes became inaccessible I haven't been using an
> antimalware program and have relied on the paid version of AVG.
> Chuck
>
> -Original Message- From: Melissa Stott via Jfw
> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 6:30 PM
> To: Lee Maschmeyer ; The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Subject: Re: Malware Bites with Jaws
>
> The latest version of Malware bytes is not compatible with Jaws at
> this time.
>
> -Original Message- From: Lee Maschmeyer via Jfw
> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 9:17 PM
> To: Tim Ford ; The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Subject: Re: Malware Bites with Jaws
>
> Why inhibit software updates? They come out with new versions because
> the old one can't deal with the newest threats. It's a very good idea
> to install all available updates as soon as they're released.
>


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com






___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: OPenbook Version 8 Question

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Not sure, but are you aware that Openbook 9 has been out for quite few 
years?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Arnold via Jfw" 
To: 
Cc: "Mark Arnold" 
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 07:59 AM
Subject: OPenbook Version 8 Question


List,



I don't know if this is off topic or not but will Openbook Version 8 work if
I update to Windows 10?



Thanks in advance,

Mark

-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: smart navigation?

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Ann,

Based on the Podcast from FS, it helps us more readily "see" the actual 
layout of a web page by revealing it's layout. Also gives additional tools 
to navigate these areas. I've not explored it much yet, but in time I'll 
likely give it a shot.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Ann Byrne via Jfw" 
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." 
Cc: "Ann Byrne" 
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 08:21 AM
Subject: smart navigation?


Cool script.  What is so great about smart navigation???


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: smart navigation?

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Um, actually it is disabled by default when JAWS 17 is first installed.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Soronel Haetir via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.hae...@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: smart navigation?


From what I can tell smart navigation is not really meant for normal
websites (despite the fact that it was enabled by default). It is
instead meant for certain types of web applications and the like where
controls of various types dominate over text.

On 11/28/15, Adrian Spratt via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
> I saw no point to smart navigation, except maybe ease in approaching 
> tables.
> But this wrinkle puts an end to that idea. Thanks for posting.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cristóbal 
> via
> Jfw
> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 11:56 AM
> To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
> Cc: Cristóbal
> Subject: RE: smart navigation?
>
> The one thing about it that bugs me is that when you're at the end of a
> table and arrow down, instead of being placed at the end of that table on
> the webpage, you're placed at the bottom of the webpage entirely. This is
> especially annoying as you don't' know you're out of the table until you
> arrow out of it. Maybe it's something I'm doing wrong on my end and simple
> lack of familiarity  with the feature, but it has been a frustrating
> experience on sites like Amazon.com product pages or banking account
> activity pages. All in all though, I do find Smart Navigation to be a plus
> but for this issue.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
> via Jfw
> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 8:42 AM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Cc: Dave Carlson
> Subject: Re: smart navigation?
>
> Ann,
>
> Based on the Podcast from FS, it helps us more readily "see" the actual
> layout of a web page by revealing it's layout. Also gives additional tools
> to navigate these areas. I've not explored it much yet, but in time I'll
> likely give it a shot.
>
> Dave Carlson
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ann Byrne via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
> Cc: "Ann Byrne" <ann...@sbcglobal.net>
> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 08:21 AM
> Subject: smart navigation?
>
>
> Cool script.  What is so great about smart navigation???
>
>
> ___
> Jfw mailing list
> Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
>
>
> ___
> Jfw mailing list
> Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
>
>
> ___
> Jfw mailing list
> Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
>
> ___
> Jfw mailing list
> Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
>


-- 
Soronel Haetir
soronel.hae...@gmail.com

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Is there any reason to not upgrade to JAWS 17?

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Hello Pablo,

Thanks for the nice concise script.

One note to those not familiar with scripting, is that the first word in the
script text needs to be "script" which was left at the end of your
instructions. The first line should actually be:

script ChangeSmartNavigation ()

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Pablo Morales via Jfw" 
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" 
Cc: "Pablo Morales" 
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 08:09 AM
Subject: RE: Is there any reason to not upgrade to JAWS 17?


For all people that is using jaws 17, and would like to be able to activate
or deactivate smart navigation quickly. This script will modify the
default.jcf file every time that you press a keystroke, activating smart
navigation controls, or smart navigation controls and tables, or smart
navigation off.
So just with a keystroke you would be able to switch between all these
choices, instead going to  Startup Wizard.
Here is the script. Remember that you need to add it to the default.jss,
assign a keystroke to the script, and compile the script again. Script
ChangeSmartNavigation ()
Var
Int SmartNavigationStatus,
String Message
Let SmartNavigationStatus=IniReadInteger ("Html", "SmartNavigation", 0,
"default.jcf")
let message=""
if SmartNavigationStatus==0 then
IniWriteInteger ("Html", "SmartNavigation", 1, "default.jcf")
Let message="Smart navigation mode is: controls"
Else
if SmartNavigationStatus==1 then
IniWriteInteger ("Html", "SmartNavigation", 2, "default.jcf")
Let message="smart navigation mode is :Controls and tables"
else
if SmartNavigationStatus==2 then
IniWriteInteger ("Html", "SmartNavigation", 0, "default.jcf")
Let message="smart navigation mode is: off"
EndIf
EndIf
EndIf
Say(message,0)
EndScript






___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Excel

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Dale,

Try this list:

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Dale Alton via Jfw" 
To: 
Cc: "Dale Alton" 
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 06:18 PM
Subject: Excel


Is there a list for screen readers and Excel and/or Access?



Denver Dale



-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Amazon issues

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

I just opened Amazon on my web browser and opened my account with no need to 
enter a Captcha. Not sure why, but grateful that it does not.

IE 11
JAWS 16

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "dennis via Jfw" 
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." 
Cc: "dennis" 
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 07:24 PM
Subject: Re: Amazon issues


i just went and signed in with no problem. just so we are all clear i am
using jaws 16 win 7 64bit. i went to amazong and hit enter on the sign
in link. it came up with the usual sign in email and password
requirement. no captia no nothing like that.

On 11/12/2015 9:14 PM, Melissa Stott via Jfw wrote:
> Well, unfortunately, I spoke too soon.  I just tried logging in to my
> Amazon account, and had the same problem.  This is not good!
>
> -Original Message- From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 9:08 PM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Cc: Adrian Spratt
> Subject: RE: Amazon issues
>
> On reading your post, which made me anxious, I went to Amazon and
> logged in with my username and password. I suspect Gerald may have the
> right answer. But as he says, Amazon should know better. And as you
> say, anyone who encounters this new obstacle should make their
> displeasure known to Amazon.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Sandra
> Streeter via Jfw
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:20 PM
> To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
> Cc: Sandra Streeter
> Subject: Amazon issues
>
> Hello, all:
>
> For the first time, I am really miffed at Amazon. Has anyone visited
> recently? They have a new sign-in feature, which, of COURSE, involves
> captias with no audio equivalent! They give you a link for “having
> trouble or sight-impaired,” but the only thing there is options for
> contacting them, which I did, with an “assertive-gram”, which, if
> you’re experiencing this issue, you might want to follow up on with
> one of your own so they will listen to us, hopefully. I stated the
> situation is unacceptable, since many of us are Christmas shopping
> now, and requested that they immediately remedy things. If anyone has
> managed to get around the captia and still do check-out, please do
> email the list and let us know how you did it! Thanks!
>
>
>
> Sandra
> “To love another person is to see the face of God.”
> (Les Miserables--the musical)
> -- next part --
> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
> URL:
> 
> ___
> Jfw mailing list
> Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
> ___
> Jfw mailing list
> Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
>
> ___
> Jfw mailing list
> Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Email Ascending vs. Descending

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Carolyn,

Again it sounds like you have your messages grouped by conversation, and you 
need to turn that off to get back to a descending order.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carol...@windstream.net>
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 08:27 AM
Subject: RE: Email Ascending vs. Descending


It said "show as conversations box, not available."

Thanks.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Carlson via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2015 11:21 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Dave Carlson <dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Email Ascending vs. Descending

MS-Outlook, or WLM, or Outlook Express? If OE, then View menu, Current
view, look for group by conversation and uncheck.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message -
From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carol...@windstream.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 07:35 AM
Subject: RE: Email Ascending vs. Descending


How would I do that, David?

This morning, I couldn't get into my Inbox; it said it was collapsed,
restarted, same problem. I Alted this and that, finally hit Shift F10,
and it said expand, so I entered, and at least I can get into them now. I
will try grouping. I would appreciate instruction if you know how to do
that so that I won't just try to figure it out and maybe mess up
something. Thank you.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Carlson via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2015 11:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Dave Carlson <dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Email Ascending vs. Descending

Carolyn,

Are you grouping your messages, perhaps? If they are grouped so that each
subject requires expanding, then it will default to ascending, regardless
of your view settings. If you have descending set and are not grouping,
then I would expect them to be sorted descending.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message -
From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carol...@windstream.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 09:40 AM
Subject: Outlook 2013.


Yesterday, we ran a full systems scan. Since that time, I noticed that
the e-mails in my Inbox, not my others, were in descending order. I went
in and checked back on ascending. Yet, they are still coming in
descending order. Anyone have any idea how I can make it do my way,
e-mails in ascending order. I checked back, and ascending is checked.
Thanks for any ideas.



Best from,



Carolyn



-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL:
<http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201
51107/aa495edc/attachment.html>
___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Email Ascending vs. Descending

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

MS-Outlook, or WLM, or Outlook Express? If OE, then View menu, Current view, 
look for group by conversation and uncheck.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carol...@windstream.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 07:35 AM
Subject: RE: Email Ascending vs. Descending


How would I do that, David?

This morning, I couldn't get into my Inbox; it said it was collapsed,
restarted, same problem. I Alted this and that, finally hit Shift F10,
and it said expand, so I entered, and at least I can get into them now. I
will try grouping. I would appreciate instruction if you know how to do
that so that I won't just try to figure it out and maybe mess up
something. Thank you.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Carlson via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2015 11:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Dave Carlson <dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Email Ascending vs. Descending

Carolyn,

Are you grouping your messages, perhaps? If they are grouped so that each
subject requires expanding, then it will default to ascending, regardless
of your view settings. If you have descending set and are not grouping,
then I would expect them to be sorted descending.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message -
From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carol...@windstream.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 09:40 AM
Subject: Outlook 2013.


Yesterday, we ran a full systems scan. Since that time, I noticed that
the e-mails in my Inbox, not my others, were in descending order. I went
in and checked back on ascending. Yet, they are still coming in
descending order. Anyone have any idea how I can make it do my way,
e-mails in ascending order. I checked back, and ascending is checked.
Thanks for any ideas.



Best from,



Carolyn



-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL:
<http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201
51107/aa495edc/attachment.html>
___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Email Ascending vs. Descending

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Carolyn,

Are you grouping your messages, perhaps? If they are grouped so that each 
subject requires expanding, then it will default to ascending, regardless of 
your view settings. If you have descending set and are not grouping, then I 
would expect them to be sorted descending.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" 
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" 
Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carol...@windstream.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 09:40 AM
Subject: Outlook 2013.


Yesterday, we ran a full systems scan. Since that time, I noticed that
the e-mails in my Inbox, not my others, were in descending order. I went
in and checked back on ascending. Yet, they are still coming in
descending order. Anyone have any idea how I can make it do my way,
e-mails in ascending order. I checked back, and ascending is checked.
Thanks for any ideas.



Best from,



Carolyn



-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: uninstall Jaws 16

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Not sure you need to. Doesn't JAWS 16 already work with Windows 10? If you 
have access to JAWS 17, then just install it by itself. Both versions can 
coexist on the same computer.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Furness via Jfw" 
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." 
Cc: "Mark Furness" 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 09:51 AM
Subject: uninstall Jaws 16


Since I am running windows 10, what is the best way to remove jaws  16 from 
my system?
___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Table to text.

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

MS-Word, Web Page, PDF, what?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" 
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" 
Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carol...@windstream.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 04:52 PM
Subject: Table to text.


Here's what my friend asked, can you help, please?



I'm trying to convert a table to text. I've highlighted the table but I
can't find a menu item for tables on the ribbon.



Best from,



Carolyn



-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Receiving e-mails - from J Bron

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

CC: to yourself next time.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "j Bron via Jfw" 
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" 
Cc: "j Bron" 
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 06:25 AM
Subject: RE: Receiving e-mails - from J Bron


I'm not getting them back in my in box.  I'm getting all the other emails 
from the list.  Strange.  Thanks, Judith

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mcginnis, 
Barbara via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 8:57 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mcginnis, Barbara
Subject: Receiving e-mails - from J Bron

Judith,

I receive your questions in my e-mail all the time.

-Original Message-
From: Kimber Gardner via Jfw [mailto:jfw@lists.the-jdh.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 8:31 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Kimber Gardner 
Subject: Re: , a little bit lostJaws Gesters

This one came through.

On 10/22/15, j Bron via Jfw  wrote:
> Can anyone tell me if you still receive my messages on the list?  I
> write questions but they are never posted now days.  Best, Judith
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
> Arnold via Jfw
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 7:17 AM
> To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
> Cc: Carolyn Arnold
> Subject: RE: , a little bit lostJaws Gesters
>
> Rene, thank you. I am so glad to know that list command. It works in
> Windows
> 10 for my Desktop. That is like getting a gift.
>
> Bye for now,
>
> Carolyn
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Pablocm
> 2014 via Jfw
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 9:45 AM
> To: jaws-users-list 
> Cc: Pablocm 2014 ; The Jaws for Windows
> support list. 
> Subject: , a little bit lostJaws Gesters
>
> On 10/21/15, René Herluf Nielsen  wrote:
>> Hi!
>> As in Windows8.1 you can press ctrl+shift+6 in the row above the
>> letters to show the contents of a folder in listview.
>> Today I did the same at the desktop, and now my desktop also is in
>> listview.
>>
>> Best regards René
>>
>>
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> ___
> Jfw mailing list
> Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
>
>
> ___
> Jfw mailing list
> Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
>
>
> ___
> Jfw mailing list
> Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
>


--
Kimberly

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com



Email correspondence to and from this address is subject to the North 
Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by an 
authorized State official. Unauthorized disclosure of juvenile, health, 
legally privileged, or otherwise confidential information, including 
confidential information relating to an ongoing State procurement effort, is 
prohibited by law. If you have received this email in error, please notify 
the sender immediately and delete all records of this email.
___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Webvisum interfering with Firefox navigation

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Adrian,

You might have inadvertently set the Tab key to launch Webvizum help. Try 
this:

tools
Webvizum
Preferences
Key Bindings
Tab to the list

Then arrow down to Help and tab once to see what keystroke is assigned to 
it. Change as necessary.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt via Jfw" 
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." 
Cc: "Adrian Spratt" 
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 07:05 AM
Subject: Webvisum interfering with Firefox navigation


Verizon must have the most annoying website, which is why I avoid going on 
it. However, after receiving double my usual bill amount today, I went 
online to find out why. Now they require me to update my password to one 
they deem more secure. Unfortunately, IE11 recognizes no username or 
password fields, so I had to turn to Firefox. Here, those fields do appear. 
However, every time I tab, Webvisum help comes up. When I close out 
Webvisum, JAWS can't read anything on the page.

Any ideas?
-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: View Preferences in Itunes

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Mike,

I thought the keystroke was Ctrl+, (the comma key).

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Mote via Jfw" 
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" 
Cc: "Michael Mote" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 07:28 AM
Subject: RE: View Preferences in Itunes


Hi there!  I believe you can get to the preferences for iTunes by pressing
control plus the letter K.  If not, I would press the alt key, and then
right arrow to the edit menu.  That is where the preferences option is
located in iTunes.


-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Annabelle
Susan Morison via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 9:20 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Annabelle Susan Morison 
Subject: View Preferences in Itunes

Hi, it's Annabelle.
I'm not sure if this is the right department for this question, but here
goes. I'm having trouble finding the View Options for a CD. I want to sort
the songs so they appear in order of track numbers, but it seems as though
they want to appear by name or as a manual order. How would I get to the
"View Options" dialog to fix it? I tried pressing Control+J, but nothing
happens. Also, is there a way for me to fix it so the CD appears in the
"source List", along with Music, Purchased, and all the other playlists I
have? In older versions of ITunes, Specifically ITunes 8.1 and earlier,
there was a tree view of items, the Source List, and when I inserted a CD,
the CD would appear in that source list. Now in newer versions of ITunes, I
expect it to appear in the list of Playlists, apparently the new-fangled
version of the Source List, but it's not there.
-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL:

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: I would like to know when will sonar x 3 be ready?

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

John,

I had no idea you were involved with this program. You are talking about the 
audio/MIDI arranging program from Cakewalk, correct?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "John Martyn via Jfw" 
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." 
Cc: "John Martyn" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 04:11 PM
Subject: Re: I would like to know when will sonar x 3 be ready?


It is hard to say. We are working on this issue with the dll file and it
is tricky with the registry. I am working on it though, be assured, good
things come to those that wait.
John

On 10/12/2015 3:42 PM, david via Jfw wrote:
> Hi, this message is for John Martyn.  I'm interested in knowing when will
> sonar x3 be ready?  I can be reached at dingram...@earthlink.net
>    Thank you
>
> -- next part --
> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
> URL: 
> 
> ___
> Jfw mailing list
> Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Registry Cleaner

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

CCleaner.
Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <ted.li...@ky.gov>
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2015 09:18 AM
Subject: RE: Registry Cleaner


Okay, I could always do a Web search, I just wondered if it was worth the 
effort.  As I just wrote, the proper name is Registry Fix.  Frankly, a 
properly designed product should allow you to specify a particular program 
for which to search.  I know what I want rid of.  Incidentally, you're on 
that other list; do you remember the proper name of the program about which 
I was asking several days ago, the one that, I think, began with a  W?

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson 
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2015 11:59 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Dave Carlson
Subject: Re: Registry Cleaner

Ted,

If it's old, I'd advise against, unless it has a way to be updated. The 
database used for detection is usually updated to keep up, and being behind 
might clean out things that should not be.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message -
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <ted.li...@ky.gov>
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2015 08:21 AM
Subject: RE: Registry Cleaner


Anyone heard of Register Fix?  I found an old copy on my hard drive, but
haven't installed it.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 8:52 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Subject: RE: Registry Cleaner

Thanks a bunch, but, for my own protection, the cyber cops are blocking the
download!  What about that site that specializes in JAWS-friendly programs
(I should have bookmarked that thing)? Anybody know what I'm talking about?

Ted
-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 3:17 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: Registry Cleaner

Hi Ted,

Here is the download link for the latest home version:

http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download/standard

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message - 
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 12:04 PM
Subject: RE: Registry Cleaner


, Dave. I thought I had an old copy of that, but must have deleted it.  It
should be fairly easy to find with a search. I'm still trying to get rid of
the remnants of AVG, that system restore fixed JAWS, but really did a number
on me.  I found some more physical remains last night, and deleted them, but
I don't touch the registry by hand. Norton once had a good cleaner, but the
last time I used it it went postal!  I haven't trusted the category since.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 12:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Dave Carlson
Subject: Re: Registry Cleaner

Ted,

CCleaner is easy to use, and accessible.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <ted.li...@ky.gov>
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 08:46 AM
Subject: Registry Cleaner


Some time ago we were discussing what was supposed to be a dandy, safe
registry cleaner.  I thought I kept the thread (you should see my mailbox),
but can't find it now.  I think it began with the letter  W.

Ted

Ted Lisle, PH.D., Medicaid services Specialist; phone: (502) 564-2574, X
2054; Fax: (502) 564-2228.


-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL:
<http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20151005/eed4a53c/attachment.html>
___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Registry Cleaner

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Ted,

CCleaner is easy to use, and accessible.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw" 
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." 
Cc: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" 
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 08:46 AM
Subject: Registry Cleaner


Some time ago we were discussing what was supposed to be a dandy, safe 
registry cleaner.  I thought I kept the thread (you should see my mailbox), 
but can't find it now.  I think it began with the letter  W.

Ted

Ted Lisle, PH.D., Medicaid services Specialist; phone: (502) 564-2574, X 
2054; Fax: (502) 564-2228.


-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Accounting question

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Pat,

If Quickbooks from Intuit fills the need, then there are scripts developed 
by John Martyn to handle many key components of that program.

His scripts are found on www.doitblind.com

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Pat C via Jfw" 
To: 
Cc: "Pat C" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 08:00 AM
Subject: Accounting question


Hi, I'm new to this, and pretty new to Jaws, so thanks in advance for your 
patience. Can anyone recommend a simple accounting software package that 
works with Jaws, especially for accounts receivable?  This is for a small 
business, where I need to track income received by client, as well as by 
month and year.  I know that Jaws works with Excel, but Excel doesn't sort 
or alphabetize in the various ways I need.  Any suggestions are appreciated. 
Thanks, Pat
-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: installing JAWS 17

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Ann,

Nice catch. Thanks for reporting this. I'm holding off for now.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Ann Byrne via Jfw" 
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." 
Cc: "Ann Byrne" 
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 06:03 PM
Subject: installing JAWS 17


After installing JAWS 17, my authorized copy of JAWS 16 Home Edition 
became a demo of JAWS 16 Professional, and JAWS 17 is a demo as well.

And, yes, I reported it.  And asked for a stinkin' count 
reset.  Isn't this fun


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Jaws 17 pleasant surprise

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Go to the FS web site and download it. No special skills required.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Hamilton via Jfw" 
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" 
Cc: "Jim Hamilton" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 08:18 PM
Subject: RE: Jaws 17 pleasant surprise


Alright!  How does one become a JAWS tester?

Darn it!  I'll bet you have to be a real techie, and that would not be I!
Techies get to do such great stuff!  It's not fair!

Again, DARN IT!!  And yes, I know that life is not necessarily fair!

In all honesty, I would rather have real techies doing this kind of thing,
instead of non-techies.  Let them find all the problems, and fix them before
we get stuck with something substandard.  Have fun GUYS!  :)  :)

Jim H

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 11:05 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk 
Subject: Jaws 17 pleasant surprise

Hi all,

I just installed the Jaws 17 beta. I am happy to announce that in Outlook
2013, when reading messages, when I press CTRL + D to delete the current
message and move to the next message, Jaws is placed at the top of the next
message, and I can read it as expected without first having to press the Alt
key twice or alt tab away and back to the message as I had to do in Jaws 16!
For me, this is worth the upgrade in and of itself! Good job FS! :)

Looking forward to hearing what everyone else thinks of Jaws 17.

Happy testing! :)

Russell


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com



___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: G force experience update Nvidia

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Jim,

I wonder if you can run the convenient OCR while in that dialog to learn 
more about those buttons?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Jim L via Jfw" 
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." 
Cc: "Jim L" 
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 12:33 AM
Subject: G force experience update Nvidia


Heya folks,

Am running Jaws 16 and for awhile now have had issues updating my nvidia
video drivers using G force experience
When I am in the G force experience program I can get to the update area and
what to check and uncheck etc but under all that there's 4 to 5 unlabeled
buttons jaws just reads as button, button etc
Does anyone know the order of what these buttons do?
Any help will be appreciated

Cheers,

Jim



___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Can a Table be Copied from the Internet into Excel?

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Barbara,

Well, I've got to give that a try. Seems slightly easier than my old method.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Mcginnis, Barbara via Jfw" 
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." 
Cc: "Mcginnis, Barbara" 
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 07:42 AM
Subject: RE: Can a Table be Copied from the Internet into Excel?


I just went to the Internet and found a table using the letter t on a 
website.  I actually went to the table and used control plus shift plus the 
right arrow to select the table, and then the down arrow, pressed Control 
plus C, opened Excel and pasted it into Excel.  The two tables I used worked 
well but the tables contained text.  I have not tried one with numbers.  My 
table said table with 3 row and 11 columns.  I actually went to 
http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_table.asp to find a table.

-Original Message-
From: Richard B. McDonald via Jfw [mailto:jfw@lists.the-jdh.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 10:01 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
Cc: Richard B. McDonald 
Subject: Can a Table be Copied from the Internet into Excel?

Hi!



Is there some keystroke to select an entire table (or just a row or column 
of it) on a webpage, and then be able to paste it into Excel maintaining 
such table's row and column structure?  For example, when navigating a 
webpage, we hear "Table with X columns and Y rows." I wish I could copy that 
table and then paste it into Excel retaining the column and row structure.
Being able to do this with a particular row or column would be fantastic!



thanks,

Richard

-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com



Email correspondence to and from this address is subject to the North 
Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by an 
authorized State official. Unauthorized disclosure of juvenile, health, 
legally privileged, or otherwise confidential information, including 
confidential information relating to an ongoing State procurement effort, is 
prohibited by law. If you have received this email in error, please notify 
the sender immediately and delete all records of this email.

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Can a Table be Copied from the Internet into Excel?

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Here's what I do every time I need to copy a table...

First, I copy and paste into MS-Word.

Then I make sure the vertical arrangement has the same number of items and 
spaces. e.g. If there are 5 headings, then there are five lines, each 
separated by a line break, followed by the first data item. Keep the 
sequence exact, every row in the table is 5 lines of text/data separated 
with line breaks all the way to the end. This part is a bit tedious for a 
very large table. Now select that entire pile of text.

Then I create the table in MS-Word using the "Convert text to table" 
function. I tell it the number of columns and use auto-fit. I also make sure 
that the separation is paragraph marks. Then hit OK. Now there's a table in 
MS-Word that you can check for any misalignment errors. If you have some, 
note where  they are, and undo the conversion with Ctrl+Z. Go down the list 
and fix the error by inserting a blank line or removing an extra line break. 
Repeat until you have a good table.

Copy that table and paste into Excel.

Wasn't that easy? Not at first, but you get pretty good when you do it a few 
times a month.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Richard B. McDonald via Jfw" 
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" 
Cc: "Richard B. McDonald" 
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 07:00 AM
Subject: Can a Table be Copied from the Internet into Excel?


Hi!



Is there some keystroke to select an entire table (or just a row or column
of it) on a webpage, and then be able to paste it into Excel maintaining
such table's row and column structure?  For example, when navigating a
webpage, we hear "Table with X columns and Y rows." I wish I could copy that
table and then paste it into Excel retaining the column and row structure.
Being able to do this with a particular row or column would be fantastic!



thanks,

Richard

-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Can a Table be Copied from the Internet into Excel?

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Yes, Barbara. In my process, the last step is to copy the completed table 
from MS-Word into MS-Excel. I've found this two-step process to be the most 
foolproof way to get a table (especially complicated ones with blanks) 
copied from any program into Excel.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Mcginnis, Barbara via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Mcginnis, Barbara" <barbara.mcgin...@dhhs.nc.gov>
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 08:07 AM
Subject: RE: Can a Table be Copied from the Internet into Excel?


He wanted to copy it into Excel and not Word.

-----Original Message-
From: Dave Carlson via Jfw [mailto:jfw@lists.the-jdh.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 10:49 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Dave Carlson <dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Can a Table be Copied from the Internet into Excel?

Barbara,

Well, I've got to give that a try. Seems slightly easier than my old method.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message -
From: "Mcginnis, Barbara via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Mcginnis, Barbara" <barbara.mcgin...@dhhs.nc.gov>
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 07:42 AM
Subject: RE: Can a Table be Copied from the Internet into Excel?


I just went to the Internet and found a table using the letter t on a
website.  I actually went to the table and used control plus shift plus the
right arrow to select the table, and then the down arrow, pressed Control
plus C, opened Excel and pasted it into Excel.  The two tables I used worked
well but the tables contained text.  I have not tried one with numbers.  My
table said table with 3 row and 11 columns.  I actually went to
http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_table.asp to find a table.

-Original Message-
From: Richard B. McDonald via Jfw [mailto:jfw@lists.the-jdh.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 10:01 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdon...@gmail.com>
Subject: Can a Table be Copied from the Internet into Excel?

Hi!



Is there some keystroke to select an entire table (or just a row or column
of it) on a webpage, and then be able to paste it into Excel maintaining
such table's row and column structure?  For example, when navigating a
webpage, we hear "Table with X columns and Y rows." I wish I could copy that
table and then paste it into Excel retaining the column and row structure.
Being able to do this with a particular row or column would be fantastic!



thanks,

Richard

-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL:
<http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150910/08db9e58/attachment.html>
___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com



Email correspondence to and from this address is subject to the North
Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by an
authorized State official. Unauthorized disclosure of juvenile, health,
legally privileged, or otherwise confidential information, including
confidential information relating to an ongoing State procurement effort, is
prohibited by law. If you have received this email in error, please notify
the sender immediately and delete all records of this email.

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com



Email correspondence to and from this address is subject to the North 
Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by an 
authorized State official. Unauthorized disclosure of juvenile, health, 
legally privileged, or otherwise confidential information, including 
confidential information relating to an ongoing State procurement effort, is 
prohibited by law. If you have received this email in error, please notify 
the sender immediately and delete all records of this email.

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Jaws and Microsoft Access

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

FS stopped script development for MS-Access several versions ago; I think 
around JAWS 7. You might get some help with that version if you can find the 
scripts and recompile them for the current version. Another user on this 
list has been struggling with MS-Access for years; perhaps he'll chime in.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Teddy assefa via Jfw" 
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." 
Cc: "Teddy assefa" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 07:40 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws and Microsoft Access


Yes, there is practically no material available for developing apps in 
Access (or any VBA based).

I'm using common windows controls and appears the properties need to be 
modified for JAWS. Some examples of issues Im having are:
- a password Textbox field, JAWS echoes the characters typed in and not 
asterisk
- radio buttons (in an Option Group) when checked, JAWS reads as Not-checked 
(and vice-versa)
- cannot Tab to the heading of a Tab control

Anyone else gone down this road?

Thanks
-Teddy

> On Sep 9, 2015, at 9:34 AM, Mcginnis, Barbara via Jfw 
>  wrote:
>
> I have often wondered myself why there is not more JAWS information on 
> Access.  It is like Access just fell by the wayside.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Teddy assefa via Jfw [mailto:jfw@lists.the-jdh.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 9:28 AM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
> Cc: Teddy assefa 
> Subject: Jaws and Microsoft Access
>
> Hi ,
> Is there any documentation or sample code out there for making MS Access 
> applications 508 compliant and/or readable with JAWS ?
>
> Thanks
> -Teddy
> ___
> Jfw mailing list
> Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
>
> 
>
> Email correspondence to and from this address is subject to the North 
> Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by an 
> authorized State official. Unauthorized disclosure of juvenile, health, 
> legally privileged, or otherwise confidential information, including 
> confidential information relating to an ongoing State procurement effort, 
> is prohibited by law. If you have received this email in error, please 
> notify the sender immediately and delete all records of this email.
>
> ___
> Jfw mailing list
> Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Jaws and Microsoft Access

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Jim Snowbarger, I think. But not sure he did scripting beyond that for audio 
and music-related apps. Could be wrong, and he did develop the Hot Spot 
Clicker concept.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Mcginnis, Barbara via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Mcginnis, Barbara" <barbara.mcgin...@dhhs.nc.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 11:41 AM
Subject: RE: Jaws and Microsoft Access


Okay you old timers.  Question:  What was the name of the individual that 
wrote so many scripts for JAWS?  I am thinking his name had something to do 
with snow.  Does anyone remember?

-Original Message-
From: Teddy assefa via Jfw [mailto:jfw@lists.the-jdh.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 1:38 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Teddy assefa <theo.ass...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Jaws and Microsoft Access

Thanks Dave, hopefully that user will chime in. Any ideas on how I can get a 
hold of those scripts for older JAWS versions.

Thanks
-Teddy

> On Sep 9, 2015, at 11:34 AM, Dave Carlson via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> 
> wrote:
>
> FS stopped script development for MS-Access several versions ago; I
> think around JAWS 7. You might get some help with that version if you
> can find the scripts and recompile them for the current version.
> Another user on this list has been struggling with MS-Access for years; 
> perhaps he'll chime in.
>
> Dave Carlson
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Teddy assefa via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
> Cc: "Teddy assefa" <theo.ass...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 07:40 AM
> Subject: Re: Jaws and Microsoft Access
>
>
> Yes, there is practically no material available for developing apps in
> Access (or any VBA based).
>
> I'm using common windows controls and appears the properties need to
> be modified for JAWS. Some examples of issues Im having are:
> - a password Textbox field, JAWS echoes the characters typed in and
> not asterisk
> - radio buttons (in an Option Group) when checked, JAWS reads as
> Not-checked (and vice-versa)
> - cannot Tab to the heading of a Tab control
>
> Anyone else gone down this road?
>
> Thanks
> -Teddy
>
>> On Sep 9, 2015, at 9:34 AM, Mcginnis, Barbara via Jfw
>> <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have often wondered myself why there is not more JAWS information
>> on Access.  It is like Access just fell by the wayside.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Teddy assefa via Jfw [mailto:jfw@lists.the-jdh.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 9:28 AM
>> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
>> Cc: Teddy assefa <theo.ass...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Jaws and Microsoft Access
>>
>> Hi ,
>> Is there any documentation or sample code out there for making MS
>> Access applications 508 compliant and/or readable with JAWS ?
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Teddy
>> ___
>> Jfw mailing list
>> Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
>> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
>>
>> 
>>
>> Email correspondence to and from this address is subject to the North
>> Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by
>> an authorized State official. Unauthorized disclosure of juvenile,
>> health, legally privileged, or otherwise confidential information,
>> including confidential information relating to an ongoing State
>> procurement effort, is prohibited by law. If you have received this
>> email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all 
>> records of this email.
>>
>> ___
>> Jfw mailing list
>> Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
>> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
>
> ___
> Jfw mailing list
> Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
>
>
> ___
> Jfw mailing list
> Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

_

Re: JAWS and Punctuation

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Yes, same as before. Create a paragraph, using these punctuations. Then read 
using the different setting either as an entire paragraph, or word-by-word.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Kimsan via Jfw" 
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" 
Cc: "Kimsan" 
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 01:15 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


Has anyone answered this yet?
My message rules are confusing me as some are ending up in my inbox, lol.


Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:01 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) 
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

I think the question is what changes do the different levels make? What are
the practical differences between all, some, most?  Even none lets one or
two things slip through--the apostrophe, for example.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:55 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Yo Bro,

Different levels, I'm not quite sure what you mean by that.  Different
levels of what?  I know you don't mean the levels of how fast your check
will bounce!  LOL,  hahaha hahaha hahaha,  LOL Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message -
From: Kimsan via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:42 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


Holy crap bro!
That was amazing! I just did it and it worked.

Now, is there a list that will tell me what punctuation will be spoken for
the different levels?
Thanks again, checks in the mail.

Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 11:10 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Mike B. 
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Hi Adrian & List Members,

Steps for, Assigning A Keystroke To Adjust Punctuation On The Fly

1. Press, Insert + F2, to open the Jaws Manager.
2. Goto Keyboard Manager and press enter.
3. Navigate to Default, & then tab 1 time to get into the list of options.
4. In the Default keyboard manager list navigate to Set Punctuation Level If
it says none.  That means there has not been a keystroke assigned.
5. Press the Alt key to open the menues, & right arrow to Action. Then down
arrow to Add Keystroke, & press enter.  Or press control + A which is the
shortcut for asigning a keystroke.
6. Insert a keystroke combination like control + dash for example. If the
combination is already being used for another command jaws will tell you.
Doing this in the Default Keyboard Manager, allows this keystroke to be used
in all aplications.
7. Tab to the Okay button, press the spacebar, then a dialogue will open
asking if you are sure you want to modify the default JKM. Press the
spacebar on the Yes option.

Now, every time you press the control + dash keystroke it changes the
punctuation level.  So press the control + dash keystroke until you hear the
punctuation level you want.

If you ever want to change or remove the keystroke, simply repeat the above
steps.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message -
From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 4:56 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


Although this method involves a menu, it isn't onerous. Press JAWS key+v to
open the quick settings dialog. Then press p until JAWS verbalizes
"punctuation." On my system, it takes three presses of p once you arrow past

the edit field. Or you can type p in the edit field and three options
appear, the second of which is "punctuation." Press the spacebar to cycle
through the punctuation level choices, leave the one you want, tab to Okay
and press enter.

I don't know if a hotkey can be created for this operation.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of patatips via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 9:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Cc: patatips
Subject: JAWS and Punctuation

Hi Everyone,
Is there any hot key that I can use, while I am reading something, turn
punctuation off and on, without going through any menus. Thanks.
Blessings and All the Very Best,
Pat

-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL:

Re: language question

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Sandra,

All I can suggest is to play around with unusual letter combinations, and 
even consider the grave accent mark or apostrophe to modify the way the 
sound comes out. Bear in mind that this would be done one way with 
Eloquence, but would be very different with some other synthesizer -- they 
vary quite a bit in their phoneme dictionaries.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Sandra Streeter via Jfw" 
To: 
Cc: "Sandra Streeter" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 06:54 PM
Subject: language question


Hi, all:

Is there a way to get JAWS to replicate the French soft J sound, as in “Jean 
Valjean”? I was trying to change its pronunciation of that name in the 
dictionary manager program, but couldn’t get it to pronounce it as I knew it 
should be pronounced. Any pointers, appreciated! Thanks!



Sandra
“To love another person is to se the face of God.”
(Les Miserables--the musical)
-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: JAWS and Punctuation

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Kimsan,

Create a test paragraph, using many of your more common punctuations. Then 
read it using the different settings.
Use all of those punctuations above the number row key, as well.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Kimsan via Jfw" 
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" 
Cc: "Kimsan" 
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 11:08 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


The most, some, all and none. We all know what none will do along with all,
but what about most and some.


Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Mike B. 
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Yo Bro,

Different levels, I'm not quite sure what you mean by that.  Different
levels of what?  I know you don't mean the levels of how fast your check
will bounce!  LOL,  hahaha hahaha hahaha,  LOL Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message -
From: Kimsan via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:42 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


Holy crap bro!
That was amazing! I just did it and it worked.

Now, is there a list that will tell me what punctuation will be spoken for
the different levels?
Thanks again, checks in the mail.

Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 11:10 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Mike B. 
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Hi Adrian & List Members,

Steps for, Assigning A Keystroke To Adjust Punctuation On The Fly

1. Press, Insert + F2, to open the Jaws Manager.
2. Goto Keyboard Manager and press enter.
3. Navigate to Default, & then tab 1 time to get into the list of options.
4. In the Default keyboard manager list navigate to Set Punctuation Level If
it says none.  That means there has not been a keystroke assigned.
5. Press the Alt key to open the menues, & right arrow to Action. Then down
arrow to Add Keystroke, & press enter.  Or press control + A which is the
shortcut for asigning a keystroke.
6. Insert a keystroke combination like control + dash for example. If the
combination is already being used for another command jaws will tell you.
Doing this in the Default Keyboard Manager, allows this keystroke to be used
in all aplications.
7. Tab to the Okay button, press the spacebar, then a dialogue will open
asking if you are sure you want to modify the default JKM. Press the
spacebar on the Yes option.

Now, every time you press the control + dash keystroke it changes the
punctuation level.  So press the control + dash keystroke until you hear the
punctuation level you want.

If you ever want to change or remove the keystroke, simply repeat the above
steps.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message -
From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 4:56 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


Although this method involves a menu, it isn't onerous. Press JAWS key+v to
open the quick settings dialog. Then press p until JAWS verbalizes
"punctuation." On my system, it takes three presses of p once you arrow past

the edit field. Or you can type p in the edit field and three options
appear, the second of which is "punctuation." Press the spacebar to cycle
through the punctuation level choices, leave the one you want, tab to Okay
and press enter.

I don't know if a hotkey can be created for this operation.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of patatips via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 9:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Cc: patatips
Subject: JAWS and Punctuation

Hi Everyone,
Is there any hot key that I can use, while I am reading something, turn
punctuation off and on, without going through any menus. Thanks.
Blessings and All the Very Best,
Pat

-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL:

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL:

Re: JAWS and Punctuation

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Kimsan,

Give it a try. Creating a test paragraph is actually a mind-stimulating 
activity. As to Window-Eyes, well that is another choice, and you're welcome 
to use it, just as Narrator or the other one that starts with "N".

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "kimsansong--- via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: <kimsans...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 08:25 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation


I must do all that? Lol
Window eyes tells me which punctuation is spoken before i change the 
punctuation levels.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 31, 2015, at 7:40 AM, Dave Carlson via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> 
> wrote:
>
> Kimsan,
>
> Create a test paragraph, using many of your more common punctuations. Then
> read it using the different settings.
> Use all of those punctuations above the number row key, as well.
>
> Dave Carlson
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Kimsan via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
> Cc: "Kimsan" <kimsans...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 11:08 PM
> Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation
>
>
> The most, some, all and none. We all know what none will do along with 
> all,
> but what about most and some.
>
>
> Kimsan Song
> kimsans...@gmail.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
> Jfw
> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:55 PM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
> Cc: Mike B. <mb69ma...@charter.net>
> Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation
>
> Yo Bro,
>
> Different levels, I'm not quite sure what you mean by that.  Different
> levels of what?  I know you don't mean the levels of how fast your check
> will bounce!  LOL,  hahaha hahaha hahaha,  LOL Take care.
> Mike
> This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Kimsan via Jfw
> To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
> Cc: Kimsan
> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:42 PM
> Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation
>
>
> Holy crap bro!
> That was amazing! I just did it and it worked.
>
> Now, is there a list that will tell me what punctuation will be spoken for
> the different levels?
> Thanks again, checks in the mail.
>
> Kimsan Song
> kimsans...@gmail.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
> Jfw
> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 11:10 AM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
> Cc: Mike B. <mb69ma...@charter.net>
> Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation
>
> Hi Adrian & List Members,
>
> Steps for, Assigning A Keystroke To Adjust Punctuation On The Fly
>
> 1. Press, Insert + F2, to open the Jaws Manager.
> 2. Goto Keyboard Manager and press enter.
> 3. Navigate to Default, & then tab 1 time to get into the list of options.
> 4. In the Default keyboard manager list navigate to Set Punctuation Level 
> If
> it says none.  That means there has not been a keystroke assigned.
> 5. Press the Alt key to open the menues, & right arrow to Action. Then 
> down
> arrow to Add Keystroke, & press enter.  Or press control + A which is the
> shortcut for asigning a keystroke.
> 6. Insert a keystroke combination like control + dash for example. If the
> combination is already being used for another command jaws will tell you.
> Doing this in the Default Keyboard Manager, allows this keystroke to be 
> used
> in all aplications.
> 7. Tab to the Okay button, press the spacebar, then a dialogue will open
> asking if you are sure you want to modify the default JKM. Press the
> spacebar on the Yes option.
>
> Now, every time you press the control + dash keystroke it changes the
> punctuation level.  So press the control + dash keystroke until you hear 
> the
> punctuation level you want.
>
> If you ever want to change or remove the keystroke, simply repeat the 
> above
> steps.
>
> Take care.
> Mike
> This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Cc: Adrian Spratt
> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 4:56 AM
> Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation
>
>
> Although this method involves a menu, it isn't onerous. Press JAWS key+v 
> to
> open the quick settings dialog. Then p

Re: JAWS and Punctuation

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Um, well...can you share that with the list?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: majno via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: majno alfred...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 05:11 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation


yes, i have a hot key created, so is posibble.

El 30/08/2015 a las 6:56, Adrian Spratt via Jfw escribió:
 Although this method involves a menu, it isn't onerous. Press JAWS key+v 
 to open the quick settings dialog. Then press p until JAWS verbalizes 
 punctuation. On my system, it takes three presses of p once you arrow 
 past the edit field. Or you can type p in the edit field and three options 
 appear, the second of which is punctuation. Press the spacebar to cycle 
 through the punctuation level choices, leave the one you want, tab to Okay 
 and press enter.

 I don't know if a hotkey can be created for this operation.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of patatips via 
 Jfw
 Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 9:26 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
 Cc: patatips
 Subject: JAWS and Punctuation

 Hi Everyone,
 Is there any hot key that I can use, while I am reading something, turn 
 punctuation off and on, without going through any menus. Thanks.
 Blessings and All the Very Best,
 Pat

 -- next part --
 An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
 URL: 
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150829/e85ec099/attachment.html
 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Shift + F10, alternative

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Adrian, you are correct. They are the same.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 05:21 PM
Subject: RE: Shift + F10, alternative


Pablo,

I've been confused by this thread. I've never noticed any difference in 
menus between the one brought up by the applications key and one brought up 
by shift-applications key. Actually, I hadn't tried until just now, and in 
Window Explorer and elsewhere, the menus look identical.

Am I mistaken?

If not, shift-F10 should always function the same as the applications key.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales 
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 8:02 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Pablo Morales
Subject: RE: Shift + F10, alternative

Hi Mike,
In windows explorer, if you are focused on a file and you press application
key or shift + f10, the menu is different than if you press shift +
application key. But my question is, if you don't have the application key,
how can you get the same menu as when you press shift + application key?
Thanks

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 3:04 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: Shift + F10, alternative

Hi Pablo,

Using IE10, if I arrow to a link  invoke either, shift + F10, shift +
application key, or the application key only, I will get 1 list of results
in the context menu, but if I tab to a link  use any of the previous
mentioned keystrokes, I will get a different list of results in the context
menu.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message -
From: Pablo Morales via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Pablo Morales
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 11:46 AM
Subject: Shift + F10, alternative


Hi all,
Some laptops, and some Bluetooth keyboards don't have the application key. I
understand that shift + F10 is the same thing as the application key. But
when we press shift + application key, we have different options than when
we press just application key. In the case that someone  is using a keyboard
without an application key, what is the
Thankskeystroke to replicate the function of shift application key?



___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL:
http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508
22/ad472493/attachment.html
___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: jaws shutting down

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Laptop? Look at your power settings.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: j Bron via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: j Bron jb...@optonline.net
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 08:22 AM
Subject: jaws shutting down


I know this topic was covered but I didn't pay much attention to it.  When I
leave my computer for awhile, can't say how long, it totally shuts down.  No
Jaws, it doesn't respond to commands like alt/tab or alt f4.  I shut it down
completely from the start button and then reboot from same.  I have windows
7 and jaws 16.  For fifteen years I've been working with Jaws.  I've left
the computer millions of times and had no problem.  Does anyone know what's
going on and how to remedy the situation?  Thanks, Judith

-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150821/86d06f1d/attachment.html
___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: jaws shutting down

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Yes, you can set a desktop to shut down, as well. Look at your power 
settings.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: j Bron via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: j Bron jb...@optonline.net
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 09:03 AM
Subject: RE: jaws shutting down


aI'm working on a desktop.  Would power enter be the same?

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 11:30 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Maria Campbell
Subject: Re: jaws shutting down

Might your pc be going into hybernation or sleep mode?  When I put mine into
hybernation, laptop shuts down, but I can get it back by pressing power
button then press enter for my log-in.


On 8/21/2015 11:22 AM, j Bron via Jfw wrote:
 I know this topic was covered but I didn't pay much attention to it.
 When I leave my computer for awhile, can't say how long, it totally
 shuts down.  No Jaws, it doesn't respond to commands like alt/tab or
 alt f4.  I shut it down completely from the start button and then
 reboot from same.  I have windows
 7 and jaws 16.  For fifteen years I've been working with Jaws.  I've
 left the computer millions of times and had no problem.  Does anyone
 know what's going on and how to remedy the situation?  Thanks, Judith

 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was
 scrubbed...
 URL:
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/
 20150821/86d06f1d/attachment.html
 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


-- 

Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
luc...@ct.metrocast.net

Trials without God will break you. Trials with God will make you.

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: jaws shutting down

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

J -- Do you have JAWS set to start at the logon screen, and after logon?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: j Bron via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: j Bron jb...@optonline.net
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 09:50 AM
Subject: RE: jaws shutting down


I hear the machine powering up but Jaws doesn't say anything.  I guess it's
the difference between a lap top and desktop.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 12:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Maria Campbell
Subject: Re: jaws shutting down

After I press the power button and hear the laptop powering up again, in a
bit I hear something like maria's log-in, which is when I press the enter
key.  JAWS and all else is well again after that.


On 8/21/2015 12:03 PM, j Bron via Jfw wrote:
 aI'm working on a desktop.  Would power enter be the same?

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Maria
 Campbell via Jfw
 Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 11:30 AM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Maria Campbell
 Subject: Re: jaws shutting down

 Might your pc be going into hybernation or sleep mode?  When I put
 mine into hybernation, laptop shuts down, but I can get it back by
 pressing power button then press enter for my log-in.


 On 8/21/2015 11:22 AM, j Bron via Jfw wrote:
 I know this topic was covered but I didn't pay much attention to it.
 When I leave my computer for awhile, can't say how long, it totally
 shuts down.  No Jaws, it doesn't respond to commands like alt/tab or
 alt f4.  I shut it down completely from the start button and then
 reboot from same.  I have windows
 7 and jaws 16.  For fifteen years I've been working with Jaws.  I've
 left the computer millions of times and had no problem.  Does anyone
 know what's going on and how to remedy the situation?  Thanks, Judith

 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was
 scrubbed...
 URL:
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments
 /
 20150821/86d06f1d/attachment.html
 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com



-- 

Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
luc...@ct.metrocast.net

Trials without God will break you. Trials with God will make you.

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: dual source headsets, where to get?

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Here's where I purchased my dual Plantronics headset, and the actual model 
number. Teresa knows all about this special model.

call one, inc.
Teresa O'Daniel
800 843-5432
Plantronics Headset
model smh-1783-11

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Brent Harding via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 09:56 AM
Subject: Re: dual source headsets, where to get?


I found a guy on Thumbtack that claims to be able to whip up a cable that
would let me use any headset mic with those combination jacks Apple and
other phones like to use now. I'm surprised even Plantronics didn't know
there was such a thing, claiming the stuff they knew of was like an a/b
switch. I remember one time when I did some transcription during school
where I tried two headphones, and one busted right in half. What I tried to
do was using two pairs of earphones, with the one behind's left earpiece
pushed out of the way to get the front one to sit there.

- Original Message - 
From: Dave Carlson via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: dual source headsets, where to get?


 Plantronics does this. I have a set. One side specific for the computer
 voice, the other has both the earpiece and the boom mike for telephone
 work.

 Dave Carlson
 Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

 - Original Message - 
 From: Brent Harding via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net
 Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 11:23 AM
 Subject: Re: dual source headsets, where to get?


 I just spoke with them. The lady I got didn't think at first that this one
 did two sources at all, but I had her look at the features part. She said
 that they have no 3.5mm connection adapter for the phone side, but she
 said
 she would email their shipping people to see if they can get such a thing.
 So much for Plantronics telling me that no such product existed.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Michael Mote via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com
 Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 12:31 PM
 Subject: RE: dual source headsets, where to get?


 Yes, you may want to contact headsets.com customer support and ask them
 about that.  They may be able to steer you in the right direction.


 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brent
 Harding
 via Jfw
 Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 12:13 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net
 Subject: Re: dual source headsets, where to get?

 Oh, OK. I wonder if they make a way to have it hook into the 4 band 3.5mm
 jacks on the phone side? I think I get how this is supposed to work where
 some phones had the removable cord on the handset part, and you plug a
 cable
 from the amp part into this instead, and the original phone cable in to
 the
 other side, sort of like answering machines did.


 - Original Message -
 From: Michael Mote via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com
 Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 12:00 PM
 Subject: RE: dual source headsets, where to get?


 The Amplifier is for the phone itself.  The Amp plugs into where the
 handset
 would be, and you run the headset that way.  I've used it before, and
 they
 work Ok.


 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brent
 Harding
 via Jfw
 Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 11:35 AM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net
 Subject: Re: dual source headsets, where to get?

 I am surprised Plantronics never mentioned that one. Maybe there isn't a
 way
 to have a 3.5mm 4-ring plug for the phone end. I don't care at all about
 the
 play and fastforward buttons. I wonder why one needs an amplifier at all
 unless you were hearing impaired.

 - Original Message -
 From: Michael Mote via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com
 Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 11:16 AM
 Subject: RE: dual source headsets, where to get?


 You can visit headsets.com.  They have a model made by Plantronics that
 does
 exactly what you're talking about here.  I've included a link to the
 product
 page below.


 https://www.headsets.com/headset/plantronics-smh1783-11-headset-and-amplifie
 r-for-the-visually-impaired/



 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com

Re: dual source headsets, where to get?

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Plantronics does this. I have a set. One side specific for the computer 
voice, the other has both the earpiece and the boom mike for telephone work.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Brent Harding via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: dual source headsets, where to get?


I just spoke with them. The lady I got didn't think at first that this one
did two sources at all, but I had her look at the features part. She said
that they have no 3.5mm connection adapter for the phone side, but she said
she would email their shipping people to see if they can get such a thing.
So much for Plantronics telling me that no such product existed.

- Original Message - 
From: Michael Mote via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 12:31 PM
Subject: RE: dual source headsets, where to get?


 Yes, you may want to contact headsets.com customer support and ask them
 about that.  They may be able to steer you in the right direction.


 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brent
 Harding
 via Jfw
 Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 12:13 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net
 Subject: Re: dual source headsets, where to get?

 Oh, OK. I wonder if they make a way to have it hook into the 4 band 3.5mm
 jacks on the phone side? I think I get how this is supposed to work where
 some phones had the removable cord on the handset part, and you plug a
 cable
 from the amp part into this instead, and the original phone cable in to
 the
 other side, sort of like answering machines did.


 - Original Message -
 From: Michael Mote via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com
 Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 12:00 PM
 Subject: RE: dual source headsets, where to get?


 The Amplifier is for the phone itself.  The Amp plugs into where the
 handset
 would be, and you run the headset that way.  I've used it before, and
 they
 work Ok.


 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brent
 Harding
 via Jfw
 Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 11:35 AM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net
 Subject: Re: dual source headsets, where to get?

 I am surprised Plantronics never mentioned that one. Maybe there isn't a
 way
 to have a 3.5mm 4-ring plug for the phone end. I don't care at all about
 the
 play and fastforward buttons. I wonder why one needs an amplifier at all
 unless you were hearing impaired.

 - Original Message -
 From: Michael Mote via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com
 Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 11:16 AM
 Subject: RE: dual source headsets, where to get?


 You can visit headsets.com.  They have a model made by Plantronics that
 does
 exactly what you're talking about here.  I've included a link to the
 product
 page below.


 https://www.headsets.com/headset/plantronics-smh1783-11-headset-and-amplifie
 r-for-the-visually-impaired/



 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brent
 Harding
 via Jfw
 Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 10:51 AM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net
 Subject: dual source headsets, where to get?

 I am wondering how you go about getting a dual source headset to be able
 to
 hear JFW on one side and have a phone call on the other side. Even
 better,
 it would be nice if the microphone sent its output back to the phone. I
 tried getting quotes on a sight called Thumbtack, and I spoke with a guy
 who
 answered who does audio engineering on the side. He thinks he could make
 a
 cable where I could plug any headset mic in to do this, as long as it
 had
 the combination jack that combines the headset and mic on it. If one was
 going to use a phone that has the same kind of jack as the iPhone, which
 uses the 4-band, 3.5mm connector, does such a product exist? The closes
 thing I found years ago was a discontinued Plantronics headset, but it
 only
 had the RJ headset plug for the phone side, which may or may not be able
 to
 be adapted. Also, I'd like something less expensive than that. I spoke
 with
 Plantronics the other day, and it appeared that what they may have had
 has
 been discontinued so long ago that it isn't in their system any more.
 The
 guy told me that the only dual source headsets like that have to be
 manually
 switched between phone call and other 

Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Jim,

Yes, I usually just get a shot of single malt to get me through the wait.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Jim Hamilton via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Jim Hamilton jim.hamil...@rogers.com
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 01:16 PM
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


Dave:

You have more patience than I.  If JAWS does not return within a minute or
so, I do a (you should excuse the expression) blind shutdown of JAWS, go to
the DESKTOP, where I have already placed the focus, and reopened JAWS.  Mind
you, if a good pair of eyes is ready/willing/able, not to mention actually
present, I am not shy about asking for help in case something is going on -
un related to JAWS.

However, when no eyes are around, it feels like the world has been shut
off; so, I know what you mean by waiting for nothing.  I usually try to find
something else to do.

Jim H

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Jim,

Pretty much hit-or-miss. It would depend on the Operating System + Video
Device Driver + JAWS Version + Program Version + Unknown Gremlins.

Very hard to duplicate symptoms with so many variables. I do know that JAWS
16 tendency to close and reopen without any warning is a bit of a thorn in
my side. There are times when it won't come back at all, and I'm sitting
there with my hands poised, waiting for nothing.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message -
From: Jim Hamilton via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Jim Hamilton jim.hamil...@rogers.com
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:43 AM
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


Dave:

Very enlightening!  For some reason, I never got around to, nor frankly
considered, uninstalling previous versions of JAWS, and this may have proven
to be far-sighted after all.  I think that I may adopt your 3 most-recent
version strategy myself.  However, once someone moves to Windows 10,
previous JAWS versions will not work - from what I gather.

However, it may be a while before I upgrade to Windows 10.  So, for now, are
there some applications that typically misbehave with the latest JAWS
offering?  Or, as with many things, it is pretty much a hit or miss
situation?

Thanks.

Jim H

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Jim,

As to previous versions -- simply because the current install is running
fine, it does not mean that it will run so with all applications. I
occasionally run JAWS 15 when JAWS 16 is misbehaving in a particular
program. I delete versions older than 3 major revisions back, just to keep
things simpler. And I still have all the executables for last revisions of
all major versions going back to 3.5. Of course that's just my
anal-retentive nature at work, having sufficient hard disk space to justify
that level of insanity.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message -
From: Jim Hamilton via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Jim Hamilton jim.hamil...@rogers.com
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 09:30 AM
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


Don't mean to be smart; but, why would you want to use previous versions
of JAWS if you have the latest version running successfully.  I'm sure that
there is a really good reason for it!  :)  :)

Jim H

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of john.falter
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 11:19 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: john.falter john.fal...@verizon.net
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

What I lose is the ability to use previous versions of JAWS.


On 8/9/2015 8:21 PM, Gary King via Jfw wrote:
 The free feed is to lure the deer into the killing ground.  I don't
 think the free Windows 10 upgrade offer is quite that sinister
 though.  Just good old Microsoft's way of trying to keep it's dominant
 position.

 Gary King
 w4...@bellsouth.net
 - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
 jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 09

Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

John,

A very good point. I sometimes need to revert back to an older version of 
JAWS if the current one seems to misbehave. With Windows 10 we need to start 
with JAWS 16 and live with any limitations until the release of JAWS 17.

And, yes, to another lister who suggested that it would be a good move on FS 
part to follow MS with a free upgrade to JAWS 17 with some proof that 
Windows 10 was installed. Why not make it a coincident upgrade program?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: john.falter via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: john.falter john.fal...@verizon.net
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 08:18 AM
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


What I lose is the ability to use previous versions of JAWS.


On 8/9/2015 8:21 PM, Gary King via Jfw wrote:
 The free feed is to lure the deer into the killing ground.  I don't
 think the free Windows 10 upgrade offer is quite that sinister
 though.  Just good old Microsoft's way of trying to keep it's dominant
 position.

 Gary King
 w4...@bellsouth.net
 - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
 jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:06 AM
 Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


 Are you saying Win10 smells? Hard to make out the meaning of this,
 um, adage.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel
 McBride via Jfw
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:05 AM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: Daniel McBride
 Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

 As I pointed out earlier, a deer gets free feed at his local deer stand
 feeder.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian
 Spratt
 via Jfw
 Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:05 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Adrian Spratt
 Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

 Windows 10 won't be free after a year. I believe the 2020 date refers
 to the
 end up MS support. But for now, as Brad says, who has the time? I'm
 waiting
 for the first service pack (MS always comes out with one) and FS's first
 rounds of fixes, all of which I expect will appear within the year.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
 White via
 Jfw
 Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:49 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Bill White
 Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

 What you gain is that, in 2020, when you finally decide to upgrade,
 Windows10 won't be free anymore.
 Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
 - Original Message -
 From: Brad Martin via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Brad Martin b...@formyfriends.org
 Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 7:03 PM
 Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


 Hi,

 I've been following all this Windows 10 stuff with great interest, and
 I just have a question (with a lot of background first):

 So FS says you shouldn't use Edge, you should use Firefox or IE. (I'm
 doing that now in Windows 7.) You can't use the built in mail program;
 you should use something like Thunderbird or Outlook. (I'm doing that
 now in Windows 7.) And you should use Adobe Reader for PDF documents.
 (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) Reviews I've read all seem to
 indicate that Cortana is iffy at best.

 So why should I upgrade again? I'm not being smart; I'd really like to
 know if I'm going to gain anything other than having a new operating
 system that I have to use in the same old ways. The only benefit I can
 see is that Windows 10 will be supported beyond January of 2020, where
 Windows
 7 will not. Am I overlooking some wonderful new feature that should
 cause me to want to hurry and upgrade? Or does the old saying, If it
 ain't broke, don't fix it, apply here? I'd really honestly like to
 know if JAWS users in particular are finding anything beneficial in
 the upgrade, or if it's just something fun to do to your functioning
 computer to see if it will still function.

 P.S. Anybody on this list from Louisiana and thinking Cortana, as in
 mall?
 -- 
 Brad Martin
 b...@formyfriends.org mailto:b...@formyfriends.org My Facebook page
 where I post online shopping coupons and deals:
 facebook.com/ucoupons http://www.facebook.com/ucoupons
 My SmarterBucks signup link http://bit.ly/1w5FCPu
 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was
 scrubbed...
 URL:
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/
 20150808/8183d0e8/attachment.html
 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 

Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Yep, Been there, done that.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Michal Nowicki via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Michal Nowicki mnowic...@icloud.com
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:38 AM
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


You can always use NVDA as a backup.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:35 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

John,

A very good point. I sometimes need to revert back to an older version of
JAWS if the current one seems to misbehave. With Windows 10 we need to start
with JAWS 16 and live with any limitations until the release of JAWS 17.

And, yes, to another lister who suggested that it would be a good move on FS
part to follow MS with a free upgrade to JAWS 17 with some proof that
Windows 10 was installed. Why not make it a coincident upgrade program?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message -
From: john.falter via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: john.falter john.fal...@verizon.net
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 08:18 AM
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


What I lose is the ability to use previous versions of JAWS.


On 8/9/2015 8:21 PM, Gary King via Jfw wrote:
 The free feed is to lure the deer into the killing ground.  I don't
 think the free Windows 10 upgrade offer is quite that sinister
 though.  Just good old Microsoft's way of trying to keep it's dominant
 position.

 Gary King
 w4...@bellsouth.net
 - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
 jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:06 AM
 Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


 Are you saying Win10 smells? Hard to make out the meaning of this,
 um, adage.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel
 McBride via Jfw
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:05 AM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: Daniel McBride
 Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

 As I pointed out earlier, a deer gets free feed at his local deer stand
 feeder.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian
 Spratt
 via Jfw
 Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:05 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Adrian Spratt
 Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

 Windows 10 won't be free after a year. I believe the 2020 date refers
 to the
 end up MS support. But for now, as Brad says, who has the time? I'm
 waiting
 for the first service pack (MS always comes out with one) and FS's first
 rounds of fixes, all of which I expect will appear within the year.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
 White via
 Jfw
 Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:49 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Bill White
 Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

 What you gain is that, in 2020, when you finally decide to upgrade,
 Windows10 won't be free anymore.
 Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
 - Original Message -
 From: Brad Martin via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Brad Martin b...@formyfriends.org
 Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 7:03 PM
 Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


 Hi,

 I've been following all this Windows 10 stuff with great interest, and
 I just have a question (with a lot of background first):

 So FS says you shouldn't use Edge, you should use Firefox or IE. (I'm
 doing that now in Windows 7.) You can't use the built in mail program;
 you should use something like Thunderbird or Outlook. (I'm doing that
 now in Windows 7.) And you should use Adobe Reader for PDF documents.
 (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) Reviews I've read all seem to
 indicate that Cortana is iffy at best.

 So why should I upgrade again? I'm not being smart; I'd really like to
 know if I'm going to gain anything other than having a new operating
 system that I have to use in the same old ways. The only benefit I can
 see is that Windows 10 will be supported beyond January of 2020, where
 Windows
 7 will not. Am I overlooking some wonderful new feature that should
 cause me to want to hurry and upgrade? Or does the old saying, If it
 ain't broke, don't fix it, apply here? I'd really honestly like to
 know if JAWS users in particular

Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Jim,

As to previous versions -- simply because the current install is running 
fine, it does not mean that it will run so with all applications. I 
occasionally run JAWS 15 when JAWS 16 is misbehaving in a particular 
program. I delete versions older than 3 major revisions back, just to keep 
things simpler. And I still have all the executables for last revisions of 
all major versions going back to 3.5. Of course that's just my 
anal-retentive nature at work, having sufficient hard disk space to justify 
that level of insanity.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Jim Hamilton via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Jim Hamilton jim.hamil...@rogers.com
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 09:30 AM
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


Don't mean to be smart; but, why would you want to use previous versions
of JAWS if you have the latest version running successfully.  I'm sure that
there is a really good reason for it!  :)  :)

Jim H

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of john.falter
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 11:19 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: john.falter john.fal...@verizon.net
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

What I lose is the ability to use previous versions of JAWS.


On 8/9/2015 8:21 PM, Gary King via Jfw wrote:
 The free feed is to lure the deer into the killing ground.  I don't
 think the free Windows 10 upgrade offer is quite that sinister
 though.  Just good old Microsoft's way of trying to keep it's dominant
 position.

 Gary King
 w4...@bellsouth.net
 - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
 jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:06 AM
 Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


 Are you saying Win10 smells? Hard to make out the meaning of this,
 um, adage.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel
 McBride via Jfw
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:05 AM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: Daniel McBride
 Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

 As I pointed out earlier, a deer gets free feed at his local deer stand
 feeder.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian
 Spratt
 via Jfw
 Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:05 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Adrian Spratt
 Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

 Windows 10 won't be free after a year. I believe the 2020 date refers
 to the
 end up MS support. But for now, as Brad says, who has the time? I'm
 waiting
 for the first service pack (MS always comes out with one) and FS's first
 rounds of fixes, all of which I expect will appear within the year.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
 White via
 Jfw
 Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:49 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Bill White
 Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

 What you gain is that, in 2020, when you finally decide to upgrade,
 Windows10 won't be free anymore.
 Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
 - Original Message -
 From: Brad Martin via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Brad Martin b...@formyfriends.org
 Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 7:03 PM
 Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


 Hi,

 I've been following all this Windows 10 stuff with great interest, and
 I just have a question (with a lot of background first):

 So FS says you shouldn't use Edge, you should use Firefox or IE. (I'm
 doing that now in Windows 7.) You can't use the built in mail program;
 you should use something like Thunderbird or Outlook. (I'm doing that
 now in Windows 7.) And you should use Adobe Reader for PDF documents.
 (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) Reviews I've read all seem to
 indicate that Cortana is iffy at best.

 So why should I upgrade again? I'm not being smart; I'd really like to
 know if I'm going to gain anything other than having a new operating
 system that I have to use in the same old ways. The only benefit I can
 see is that Windows 10 will be supported beyond January of 2020, where
 Windows
 7 will not. Am I overlooking some wonderful new feature that should
 cause me to want to hurry and upgrade? Or does the old saying, If it
 ain't broke, don't fix it, apply here? I'd really honestly like to
 know if JAWS users in particular are finding anything beneficial in
 the upgrade, or if it's just something fun to do to your functioning
 computer to see if it will still 

Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Jim,

Pretty much hit-or-miss. It would depend on the Operating System + Video 
Device Driver + JAWS Version + Program Version + Unknown Gremlins.

Very hard to duplicate symptoms with so many variables. I do know that JAWS 
16 tendency to close and reopen without any warning is a bit of a thorn in 
my side. There are times when it won't come back at all, and I'm sitting 
there with my hands poised, waiting for nothing.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Jim Hamilton via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Jim Hamilton jim.hamil...@rogers.com
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:43 AM
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


Dave:

Very enlightening!  For some reason, I never got around to, nor frankly
considered, uninstalling previous versions of JAWS, and this may have proven
to be far-sighted after all.  I think that I may adopt your 3 most-recent
version strategy myself.  However, once someone moves to Windows 10,
previous JAWS versions will not work - from what I gather.

However, it may be a while before I upgrade to Windows 10.  So, for now, are
there some applications that typically misbehave with the latest JAWS
offering?  Or, as with many things, it is pretty much a hit or miss
situation?

Thanks.

Jim H

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Jim,

As to previous versions -- simply because the current install is running
fine, it does not mean that it will run so with all applications. I
occasionally run JAWS 15 when JAWS 16 is misbehaving in a particular
program. I delete versions older than 3 major revisions back, just to keep
things simpler. And I still have all the executables for last revisions of
all major versions going back to 3.5. Of course that's just my
anal-retentive nature at work, having sufficient hard disk space to justify
that level of insanity.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message -
From: Jim Hamilton via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Jim Hamilton jim.hamil...@rogers.com
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 09:30 AM
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


Don't mean to be smart; but, why would you want to use previous versions
of JAWS if you have the latest version running successfully.  I'm sure that
there is a really good reason for it!  :)  :)

Jim H

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of john.falter
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 11:19 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: john.falter john.fal...@verizon.net
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

What I lose is the ability to use previous versions of JAWS.


On 8/9/2015 8:21 PM, Gary King via Jfw wrote:
 The free feed is to lure the deer into the killing ground.  I don't
 think the free Windows 10 upgrade offer is quite that sinister
 though.  Just good old Microsoft's way of trying to keep it's dominant
 position.

 Gary King
 w4...@bellsouth.net
 - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
 jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:06 AM
 Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


 Are you saying Win10 smells? Hard to make out the meaning of this,
 um, adage.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel
 McBride via Jfw
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:05 AM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: Daniel McBride
 Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

 As I pointed out earlier, a deer gets free feed at his local deer stand
 feeder.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian
 Spratt
 via Jfw
 Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:05 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Adrian Spratt
 Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

 Windows 10 won't be free after a year. I believe the 2020 date refers
 to the
 end up MS support. But for now, as Brad says, who has the time? I'm
 waiting
 for the first service pack (MS always comes out with one) and FS's first
 rounds of fixes, all of which I expect will appear within the year.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
 White via
 Jfw
 Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:49 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Bill White
 Subject: Re

Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Daniel,

That's nice for the deer. Is there a deeper meaning to the obvious?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Daniel McBride via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Daniel McBride dlm...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 07:04 AM
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


As I pointed out earlier, a deer gets free feed at his local deer stand
feeder.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:05 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Windows 10 won't be free after a year. I believe the 2020 date refers to the
end up MS support. But for now, as Brad says, who has the time? I'm waiting
for the first service pack (MS always comes out with one) and FS's first
rounds of fixes, all of which I expect will appear within the year.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

What you gain is that, in 2020, when you finally decide to upgrade,
Windows10 won't be free anymore.
Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
- Original Message -
From: Brad Martin via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Brad Martin b...@formyfriends.org
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 7:03 PM
Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


 Hi,

 I've been following all this Windows 10 stuff with great interest, and
 I just have a question (with a lot of background first):

 So FS says you shouldn't use Edge, you should use Firefox or IE. (I'm
 doing that now in Windows 7.) You can't use the built in mail program;
 you should use something like Thunderbird or Outlook. (I'm doing that
 now in Windows 7.) And you should use Adobe Reader for PDF documents.
 (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) Reviews I've read all seem to
 indicate that Cortana is iffy at best.

 So why should I upgrade again? I'm not being smart; I'd really like to
 know if I'm going to gain anything other than having a new operating
 system that I have to use in the same old ways. The only benefit I can
 see is that Windows 10 will be supported beyond January of 2020, where
 Windows
 7 will not. Am I overlooking some wonderful new feature that should
 cause me to want to hurry and upgrade? Or does the old saying, If it
 ain't broke, don't fix it, apply here? I'd really honestly like to
 know if JAWS users in particular are finding anything beneficial in
 the upgrade, or if it's just something fun to do to your functioning
 computer to see if it will still function.

 P.S. Anybody on this list from Louisiana and thinking Cortana, as in mall?
 --
 Brad Martin
 b...@formyfriends.org mailto:b...@formyfriends.org My Facebook page
 where I post online shopping coupons and deals:
 facebook.com/ucoupons http://www.facebook.com/ucoupons
 My SmarterBucks signup link http://bit.ly/1w5FCPu
 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was
 scrubbed...
 URL:
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/
 20150808/8183d0e8/attachment.html
 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com



 __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus
 signature database 12065 (20150808) __

 The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.

 http://www.eset.com





__ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature
database 12065 (20150808) __

The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.

http://www.eset.com





___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Carolyn,

Do I understand that you can still receive a free copy of Windows 10 for an 
XP installation? I thought it was only available to Windows 7 and Windows 8 
installations.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:47 AM
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


I came from XP, and wow, am I glad that I did. I never had 7, so I can't
speak for that. I've just been working on mine for about 24 hours, and I do
like it!

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad Martin
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 10:04 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Brad Martin b...@formyfriends.org
Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Hi,

I've been following all this Windows 10 stuff with great interest, and I
just have a question (with a lot of background first):

So FS says you shouldn't use Edge, you should use Firefox or IE. (I'm doing
that now in Windows 7.) You can't use the built in mail program; you should
use something like Thunderbird or Outlook. (I'm doing that now in Windows
7.) And you should use Adobe Reader for PDF documents.
(I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) Reviews I've read all seem to indicate
that Cortana is iffy at best.

So why should I upgrade again? I'm not being smart; I'd really like to know
if I'm going to gain anything other than having a new operating system that
I have to use in the same old ways. The only benefit I can see is that
Windows 10 will be supported beyond January of 2020, where Windows 7 will
not. Am I overlooking some wonderful new feature that should cause me to
want to hurry and upgrade? Or does the old saying, If it ain't broke, don't
fix it, apply here? I'd really honestly like to know if JAWS users in
particular are finding anything beneficial in the upgrade, or if it's just
something fun to do to your functioning computer to see if it will still
function.

P.S. Anybody on this list from Louisiana and thinking Cortana, as in mall?
--
Brad Martin
b...@formyfriends.org mailto:b...@formyfriends.org My Facebook page where
I post online shopping coupons and deals:
facebook.com/ucoupons http://www.facebook.com/ucoupons
My SmarterBucks signup link http://bit.ly/1w5FCPu
-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL:
http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508
08/8183d0e8/attachment.html
___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Windows 10 Clean Install vs. In-Place Upgrade

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Joseph,

So in your summary, you say that using the Media Creation Tool will not keep 
your programs and settings? It would end up being a factory default install 
of Windows 10 and require installing all my programs from scratch? Does not 
sound like what I want to do.

Or are you saying that I can use the Media Creation Tool to do an  In-Place 
Upgrade and not lose all my programs? Please clarify.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Joseph Lee via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 07:46 AM
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10


Hi,
There is no command to restart Narrator.
Speaking of installing Windows, I'll go through some FAQ's I got from this
list in this email:
* Compatible JFW release: Please use JAWS 16.0.4350 or later, or if you'd
like to wait, please hold off until JAWS 17 comes out (public beta or
official build will do).
* Clean install versus in-place upgrade: You can perform an in-place upgrade
all by yourself with a screen reader running. Your computer will restart
several times, and after some restarts, you'll hear silence from your
computer. Once this happens, press Windows+ENTER to launch Narrator, and if
your sound card is detected, Microsoft David will come up talking.
* Multiple clean install options: There are two ways of performing clean
install: bootable media or from Media Creation Tool. If using Media Creation
tool option, the steps are same as above, except none of your programs and
settings will be kept. If doing bootable media installation, then you'll
indeed need some sighted assistance for the first few prompts to choose your
language, entering your product key (don't have to enter it), choosing a
partition and others. Once your computer restarts several times, follow the
steps above to finish installing using Narrator (Windows 10 will come in
either a DVD or on a flash drive).
* Some finds with JAWS 16.0.4350: My brief testing shows the following (at
least on my computer):
1. In Start search box, JAWS does not announce search results automatically.
2. JAWS does not announce Action Center notifications, aa variation of
Windows 8.x's toast notifications. They are toasts in disguise because you
can press Windows+V to move to and interact with them, and press Windows+A
to open Action Center. These are basic issues that should have been fixed in
the first place, thus (in my opinion) disqualifying JAWS from being
compatible with Windows 10 for now (I'm sure FS is working on it).
3. You can use TAB and Shift+TAB to move among links in Microsoft Edge (no
virtual cursor, no forms mode, no support for MathML yet). There were tweets
floating around which criticized FS for not supporting Edge yet, but that's
expected (the biggest nightmare for screen reader vendors is whenever
Microsoft comes out with a new version of Windows; Windows 8.x users tasted
this, and it'll happen more frequently now that Microsoft will be updating
Windows constantly to add new features which may break accessibility).
For resident geeks here:
* In order to let your app support Windows 10, you need to modify app
manifest in your application, which is what JAWS 16.0.4350 could have done.
* UIA (User Interface Automation) is more prominent now, with universal apps
using UIA.
* Microsoft Edge is filled with UIA objects, thus you need to know how UIA
works (at least a high-level overview) when scripting for Windows 10 apps
and for supporting Edge.
If you'd like to hear Windows 10 in action, there are podcasts devoted to
this (including mine). I talked about Windows 10 (although from another
screen reader's perspective) on Tek Talk for August 3rd, which can be found
at www.accessibleworld.org.
Cheers,
Joseph
P.S. I believe we have some Windows Insiders who uses JAWS, so you can ask
them also.







-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Rob via Jfw
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 7:14 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Rob mr.robertc...@icloud.com
Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

Can you restart Narrator with windows+Enter?


On 8/6/2015 9:04 PM, Jim Portillo via Jfw wrote:
 I just tried it a while ago. Of course, something went wrong when trying
to activate narrator. Looks like it installed, but it is either stuck or
something. Now of course I have no idea what's going on on the screen.

 Sent from my iPhone 6!

 On Aug 6, 2015, at 6:56 PM, Michal Nowicki via Jfw
jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:

 Joseph and Rob,

 Thank you for describing the accessibility of the upgrade process.  I
 just completed it, and both JAWS and Windows 10 are working well.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Rob via
 Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 6:40 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 

Re: itunes latest version and latest jfw question

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Sounds like you have some version of JAWS scripts running with iTunes with 
those keystrokes enabled.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Kimsan via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 08:03 AM
Subject: RE: itunes latest version and latest jfw question


Really?
When I perform control ult left or right arrow it says not in  a table.

So, I do insert 3, perform the keystroke again, and viola.

Yes, that drives me crazy, and I only did it once.
Lol.
-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Mote
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 7:55 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: itunes latest version and latest jfw question

I do not have to use the bypass command first on my system.  Not sure why
you would have to do that, unless you are using a different keyboard set-up
than me.  That would drive me crazy.



-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 9:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: itunes latest version and latest jfw question

Mike:
Thank you! I have to do the bypass command each time I perform that command
in itunes as I'm sure you already knew that?

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Mote
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 7:04 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: itunes latest version and latest jfw question

The key stroke to do this is Control Plus Alt plus right arrow to fast
forward, and left arrow to rewind.  Hope this helps!


-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 1:18 AM
To: jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
Subject: itunes latest version and latest jfw question

Is it possible to skip a few seconds during a song in itunes like how one
can do in wmp and winamp?



Please just don't say yes so if it is possible, what's the keystroke? :)

Thanks.

-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL:
http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201507
28/ef40639e/attachment.html
___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: jaws scripts for itunes?

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Don't think so. Latest version of BlindTunes is 5.3.4.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Kimsan via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 08:55 AM
Subject: RE: jaws scripts for itunes?


I was reading aboot the jaws scripts for itunes.
I think it was 9.99?

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 8:43 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: jaws scripts for itunes?

Not sure at this point. You need to click on the product of interest,
perhaps?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message -
From: Kimsan via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 08:13 AM
Subject: RE: jaws scripts for itunes?


Smack me hard and call me stupid but how much is this?
I just read the site and I couldn't find it.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 7:51 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: jaws scripts for itunes?

www.doitblind.com

Not free, but pretty reasonable.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Jim Hamilton via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Jim Hamilton jim.hamil...@rogers.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 06:47 AM
Subject: Re: jaws scripts for itunes?


First, how does one obtain this script?

Second, is there a cost involved? And, is this the same version that has
been available, for several years, at a cost of about $350 US?

Thanks.



Sent from Jim's iPhone


 On Jul 26, 2015, at 3:12 PM, Michal Nowicki via Jfw
 jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:

 Yes, BlindTunes.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Curt Taubert
 via Jfw
 Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 12:00 PM
 To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Curt Taubert curttaub...@bellsouth.net
 Subject: jaws scripts for itunes?

 Is there jaws scripts for itunes?  This new version of itunes is harder
 for
 me that the one I had.
 -- next part --
 An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
 URL:

http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201507
 26/71819e6e/attachment.html
 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: jaws scripts for itunes?

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Kimsan,

Okay, I understand now that you're talking price, and not version.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Kimsan via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 09:24 AM
Subject: RE: jaws scripts for itunes?


Ok, I was 4cents over, it's 9.95.
I'm going to purchase it.
I became a huge fan of itunes in the past week.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 8:43 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: jaws scripts for itunes?

Not sure at this point. You need to click on the product of interest,
perhaps?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message -
From: Kimsan via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 08:13 AM
Subject: RE: jaws scripts for itunes?


Smack me hard and call me stupid but how much is this?
I just read the site and I couldn't find it.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 7:51 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: jaws scripts for itunes?

www.doitblind.com

Not free, but pretty reasonable.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Jim Hamilton via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Jim Hamilton jim.hamil...@rogers.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 06:47 AM
Subject: Re: jaws scripts for itunes?


First, how does one obtain this script?

Second, is there a cost involved? And, is this the same version that has
been available, for several years, at a cost of about $350 US?

Thanks.



Sent from Jim's iPhone


 On Jul 26, 2015, at 3:12 PM, Michal Nowicki via Jfw
 jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:

 Yes, BlindTunes.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Curt Taubert
 via Jfw
 Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 12:00 PM
 To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Curt Taubert curttaub...@bellsouth.net
 Subject: jaws scripts for itunes?

 Is there jaws scripts for itunes?  This new version of itunes is harder
 for
 me that the one I had.
 -- next part --
 An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
 URL:

http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201507
 26/71819e6e/attachment.html
 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: jaws scripts for itunes?

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Not sure at this point. You need to click on the product of interest, 
perhaps?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Kimsan via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 08:13 AM
Subject: RE: jaws scripts for itunes?


Smack me hard and call me stupid but how much is this?
I just read the site and I couldn't find it.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 7:51 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: jaws scripts for itunes?

www.doitblind.com

Not free, but pretty reasonable.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Jim Hamilton via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Jim Hamilton jim.hamil...@rogers.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 06:47 AM
Subject: Re: jaws scripts for itunes?


First, how does one obtain this script?

Second, is there a cost involved? And, is this the same version that has
been available, for several years, at a cost of about $350 US?

Thanks.



Sent from Jim's iPhone


 On Jul 26, 2015, at 3:12 PM, Michal Nowicki via Jfw
 jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:

 Yes, BlindTunes.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Curt Taubert
 via Jfw
 Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 12:00 PM
 To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Curt Taubert curttaub...@bellsouth.net
 Subject: jaws scripts for itunes?

 Is there jaws scripts for itunes?  This new version of itunes is harder
 for
 me that the one I had.
 -- next part --
 An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
 URL:

http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201507
 26/71819e6e/attachment.html
 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: jaws scripts for itunes?

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

www.doitblind.com

Not free, but pretty reasonable.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Jim Hamilton via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Jim Hamilton jim.hamil...@rogers.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 06:47 AM
Subject: Re: jaws scripts for itunes?


First, how does one obtain this script?

Second, is there a cost involved? And, is this the same version that has 
been available, for several years, at a cost of about $350 US?

Thanks.



Sent from Jim's iPhone


 On Jul 26, 2015, at 3:12 PM, Michal Nowicki via Jfw 
 jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:

 Yes, BlindTunes.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Curt Taubert
 via Jfw
 Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 12:00 PM
 To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Curt Taubert curttaub...@bellsouth.net
 Subject: jaws scripts for itunes?

 Is there jaws scripts for itunes?  This new version of itunes is harder 
 for
 me that the one I had.
 -- next part --
 An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
 URL:
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201507
 26/71819e6e/attachment.html
 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: JAWS and Amazon

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Hello T Using,

I've actually never had any problems with JAWS Technical Support. All my 
encounters have been courteous, and admittedly, when their only suggestion 
was to run JAWS in default mode and/or delete all the user settings, I've 
complained that it was an onerous thing to suggest, they still didn't treat 
me in any way a demeaning manner.

Sometimes I've found that my personal attitude at the initial call has a lot 
to do with how the responder reacts, and I try to have an open, 
non-confrontational attitude at the first encounter -- after all even though 
it's been brewing in my mind for several hours or days, it's a brand-new 
situation for the tech support person.

As to Amazon, I find it pretty good to use with any version of JAWS in the 
standard  mode. Just use all the different navigational techniques until you 
come up with a pattern that works for you. I use the navigational keys to 
move around, and in my experience, there are a number of combo lists that 
come up when you select different ship addresses, recipients, or payment 
options. Shipping method tends to be radio buttons.

Also note that if you ;purchase more than one item, and if they are shipped 
by different vendors, you will need to select shipping options for each one 
separately, since they all have different shipping options.

I see that you're using JAWS 15, but I don't think that there are any 
significant enhancements in JAWS 16 that would resolve your issues.


Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Tusing via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Tusing ptus...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 03:08 PM
Subject: JAWS and Amazon


Hi,

Seldom if ever have I ever expressed any dissatisfaction  with Freedom
Scientific.



I  had been told  to upgrade to JAWS 15 so  finally I did it.



Well, with afriend watching my  every move, I

Found it was very difficult to buy items on amazon.com/access,

Impossible to select a different gift recipientfrom a list of

People one  lists for shipping, and impossible to change shipping options.



I was using the latest  Firefox with JAWS 15.



I  called  Freedom Scientificand explained this. I was told sarcastically to
go buy a new version of JAWS which I frankly thought was  totally out of
line-since  F S  had  been tauting the virtues of JAWS 15 for sometime!



Thinking some one cared,   I mentioned that JAWS does  not work with   the
Amazon music player-very useful for playing musicand

Downloading music.



Would you believe I was corrected  in a short manner  as the speaker from  F
S quipped why would any one

Even want to use the music player.

Why would any one asksuch astupidquestion?

I  guess we should be permitted to use some  key  Amazon features and not
others.

He  criticized me for using JAWS 15-which was what F S had been
recommending all along.



Great  sarcastic  moral support.



So  I ask this.





Are people shopping using JAWS 15 and  latest Firefox on  Amazon.com/access?



I have  watched friends use the   Amazon music player and it has a  lot of
good features.  But  F S  I guess would

Dole outaccessibilityand maybe permit us to use it 3 versions from now.  The
sarcasm

Called support hit hardas I spent a  lot of time

Trying to use the Amazon site and the  player.

Also F S  support had told me  that JAWS 15 worked with both.



Thank you and have a good day.

-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150728/94b9ced2/attachment.html
___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: accessible design software

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Marvin,

I ran into this problem over 20 years ago. I could not make diagrams that 
required connecting shapes to show flow or correlation. I did find one 
software package that had an underlying text script that defined all the 
diagram elements, and realized that if I could understand the syntax of this 
underlying language, I could possibly just create diagrams in text and then 
import into the drawing package.

However I didn't have the time nor the necessity of having to do it, so I 
personally did not pursue this idea.

So you may want to see if these programs have any way to import and export 
the underlying data for use in other programs, and perhaps this might come 
out as text for you to learn, manipulate, and use. It may take you a 
semester just to learn how to use the software, but it could allow you to do 
the coursework.

Sorry I have no idea what software I used back then, and likely it would not 
even be around any more.

Good luck.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Marvin Hunkin via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Marvin Hunkin startrekc...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 08:26 PM
Subject: accessible design software


Hi.

Pasting an e-mail, from my lectuer.

Have to do use, case, state and other diagrams.

I am a blind it student, and this is a core subject.

Any ideas.

I use a screen reader jaws for windows from http://www.freedomscientific.com

Any ideas, any software, which will help.

Must be some software, that can design accessible diagrams.

Any ideas.

Marvin.



Marvin, that is a shame. I understand that diagrams are visual
representations, but to stop visually impaired from creating or using them
is not great.



There is a core Unit of Competency that is required to be completed for this
qualification. The important part of this unit is.

Elements and Performance Criteria


ELEMENT

PERFORMANCE CRITERIA


Elements describe the essential outcomes.

Performance criteria describe the performance needed to demonstrate
achievement of the element.


1. Derive high-level design from specification

1.1 Develop static class diagram from given set of specifications

1.2 Develop either collaboration diagram or sequence diagram from given set
of specifications

1.3 Develop either activity diagram or state diagram from given set of
specifications


2. Refine design

2.1 Investigate and refine behaviour, state of classes and collaboration
between classes

2.2 Validate correct visibility of class services and state data

2.3 Identify generalisations within classes

2.4 Identify specialisations within classes

2.5 Apply principles of aggregation and composition to refine class design


3. Document design

3.1 Create detailed uniform modelling language (UML) static class diagrams

3.2 Create detailed UML collaboration or sequence diagrams

3.3 Create detailed UML activity or state diagrams





If you have any thoughts about how you could address these requirements? May
I suggest sending these requirements to some blind colleagues and see what
they might suggest.



Unfortunately, as this is a core unit of competence I am unable to change it
to another unit.



Let me know your thoughts.



Regards,





From: Marvin Hunkin [mailto:startrekc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2015 10:34 AM
To: Darrell Klar
Subject: business needs assignment



Hi.

Well.

No accessible diagram software, so how do I do this assignment.

Unless, there are some more accessible ways to describe applications, or
processes, unless, iuse the entity designer in visual studio.

Any ideas.

Did ask a few blind tech people on a few tech lists, but no answers yet.

Marvin.

  _

No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2015.0.6081 / Virus Database: 4401/10321 - Release Date: 07/27/15



This electronic mail/facsimile contains information that is privileged and
confidential, intended only for use of the individual(s) named or addresses
listed.  If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, copying
or use of the information is strictly prohibited.  If you have received this
transmission in error please delete it (including any attachments)
immediately from your system and inform us via email at:
mailto:i...@upskilled.edu.au i...@upskilled.edu.au

It is the recipient's responsibility using this form of communication to
virus scan or otherwise test this email prior to opening any files attached.
The author will not be liable to you or any other person for any loss or
damage (including direct, consequential or economic loss or damage) however
caused and whether by negligence or otherwise which may result directly or
indirectly from the receipt or use of this communication or any files
attached to it.

http://ads.perfectaudience.com/seg?add=1318743t=2





-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 

Re: How do I get Convenient OCR to work?

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Mike,

A couple points... First the D is only relevant for PDF documents. Second, 
there are two other letters - S for screen and C for Control (i.e. button, 
label, etc.).

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Michael B. via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Michael B. mb69ma...@charter.net
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 02:31 PM
Subject: Re: How do I get Convenient OCR to work?


Hi Keith,

Insert + spacebar, then, press, O, for OCR then, press, D, for document Or,
press, W, for window.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message - 
From: Milton Ota via Jfw
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Milton Ota
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: How do I get Convenient OCR to work?


You need to press and hold the Insert-key and spacebar to start and
then follow it with the letter O.

If you pres and hold the insert key and spacebar then pressing the
letter O and follow that with the question mark you will get the help
for convenient OCR.

HTH
Original message:
 Hi,

 I'm trying to read from a website what I believe is a scanned PDF image
 of a release form for an outdoor activity.

 I do caps lock plus spacebar and then o, but nothing happens apparently
 at that point.

 Any help appreciated.

 Keith

 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150724/bb588623/attachment.html
___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: PDF documents

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Carolyn,

On this list email, replying directly to sender does not work.
 If you read the TO: field after pressing Insert+Shift+R you will hear 
that it's still going to the jfw list.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: Greg Nickel via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 05:25 PM
Subject: Re: PDF documents


You are welcome. I intended for that to go off list; hope this does.

I forgot to tell you that you lay your forefinger in the stimulator array
and use your right hand to maneuver the camera. There are two adjusting
knobs just above the stimulator array, the lower  to adjust the thickness or
thinness of the material and the upper one to adjust the intensity of the
vibrations. In the back of it, there is a switch to reverse background and
image.


Remember, life is what you make it,

Carolyn

- Original Message - 
From: Greg Nickel via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Greg Nickel greg.nickel.wo...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 6:29 PM
Subject: RE: PDF documents


 Thanks Carolyn.  I'll check it out.


 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
 Arnold
 via Jfw
 Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 3:17 PM
 To: Greg Nickel via Jfw
 Cc: Carolyn Arnold
 Subject: Re: PDF documents

 Greg, Optacon stands for optical to tacticle converter. I use the Optacon
 R1D. It is an electronic device which is about the size of a text book. In
 back of the machine is either a charger cord or just an electrical cord,
 if
 you have one without batteries. The machine is encased in a leather case
 that snaps open and shut.

 In front of it, there is a cable on it that feels sort of like a heavy
 duty
 headset cable. At the end of this approximately 18
 inch long cable is a camera that is about the size of a pocket knife.
 There
 is a little knob at the top of the camera, so that the user can adjust it
 to

 accommodate print size.

 Inside the main body of the Optacon toward the right side, as the device
 faces you, there is a sort of metallic area that is about maybe an inch
 across by two inches in length. This is called the stimulator array, and
 it
 contains 144 pins in six rows of 24pens. These
 pins vibrate, as the shutter photographs the character where the camera is
 place. So the user has a vibrating image of a printed letter, line, as in
 a
 9 x 12 room. In such a situation, different maneuvering of the camera is
 required rather than reading across a straight line of printed material.

 The device is a life saver for reading items like utility bills, getting
 slip in window envelope correctly, checking to see if a pen writes, then
 checking signature, checking to see the number on a check, and I could go
 on
 and on.

 The Optacon is 70's technology. There is an Optacon Users' group:

 optaco...@freelists.org

 It is a good idea to place maybe a telephone book across a page that maybe
 you printed from the computer, so that you would be familiar with the
 material to start to learn to read. If you don't know the print alphabet,
 you could type it on the computer, one line in caps and one not in caps,
 as
 well as a line with numbers and then punctuations, followed by writing
 what
 the punctuation mark represents. If you know print, of course, that will
 make
 it easier. It takes some practice, which can be taxing to build the skill
 needed to use the Optacon, but it is well worth the energy investment.

 I will also give you information to where you can look into buying one,
 and
 the man will answer any questions. He is very well thought of by Optacon
 users. His name is Richard Oehm.

 oehme...@samobile.net

 Richard Oehm

 Oehm Electronics

 2194C Galveston Avenue

 San Jose, California 95122-3617

 Telephone:  (408) 971-6250

 Fax:  (408) 271-9188



 Feel free to contact me further in this regard, and I would encourage you
 to

 join the Optacon Users' list, which, by the way, has been very quiet
 lately.

 Perhaps you could scan some of the archives.



 Remember, life is what you make it,

 Carolyn

 - Original Message - 
 From: Greg Nickel via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Greg Nickel greg.nickel.wo...@gmail.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 4:45 PM
 Subject: RE: PDF documents


 Hi Carolyn

 Can you tell me more about the Opticon and how it works for you?  Happy
 to
 chat off forum at greg.nickel.wo...@gmail.com




 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
 Arnold
 via Jfw
 Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:14 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Carolyn Arnold
 Subject: Re: PDF documents

 With an Optacon, I can read floor plans.

 Remember, life is what you make 

Re: I can't sign in at Bank of America

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Adrian,

Have you tried this web site with auto forms mode turned off? The edit field 
will then require you type the Enter key before it opens. This might be a 
more assertive way to focus on the edit fields.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 04:21 AM
Subject: I can't sign in at Bank of America


I've had this problem for the past week. When I go to the sign-in page and 
enter my username, I get a message saying the username must be at least six 
characters long. (Mine has more.) It seems the system isn't recognizing that 
I've entered the data in the edit field.

I've toggled the virtual cursor on and off. When entering the data in the 
edit field fails to get me to the next screen, I've gone back and pressed 
enter on the edit field before entering the username. Still no success.

When I turn on the JAWS cursor, I notice that my username appears on the 
screen.

Anyone else experiencing this? Any ideas?
-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150720/60271219/attachment.html
___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Editing JAWS Special Keys List VKeyboard.jsm

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Hello Soronel,

I recall that you need to edit not only the list, but change some parameters 
to define a new list length? Do you perhaps still have the process?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Soronel Haetir via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Soronel Haetir soronel.hae...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 09:24 PM
Subject: Re: Pound Sign in Jaws


And if you are a masochist you can even expand the list.

You have to edit VKeyboard.jsm and then recompile VKeyboard.jss but it
is possible. I forget what symbol I added to an earlier jaws version
but I don't do that any more.

On 7/18/15, Adrian Spratt via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Like Soronel and you, I find typing ANSI/ASCII equivalents frustrating.
 Northstar tells listers what to do when symbols aren't readily available
 from other sources. But the JAWS key+4 partial symbols list is a nice
 contribution from FS. There you can find, for example, em-dash and 
 en-dash,
 ellipses, and numerous accented letters. Oh, and the pounds sterling sign.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. 
 via
 Jfw
 Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 12:03 AM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Michael B.
 Subject: Re: Pound Sign in Jaws

 Hi Adrian  Northstar,

 I'm not saying this to argue the ansi or ascii value of the sterling 
 pounds

 number, but when I press the, NumPad 5 key, 3 times quickly on the 
 sterling

 pounds symbol, it gives me a unicode number of 163.  But yet, if I turn 
 the

 numpad on, hold down the Alt key, press 1, 6, 3, turn the numpad off, I 
 get,

 ú.  doing what Norstar suggests  typing, 1, 5, 6 does give me the, £,
 symbol.  Whoops, I just tried typing, 0,1,6,3,  did get the, £, symbol.
 Damn, this ansi / ascii stuff can get confusing!  LOL  LOL
 Take care.
 Mike
 This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

 - Original Message -
 From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Adrian Spratt
 Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 8:15 PM
 Subject: RE: Pound Sign in Jaws


 Actually, you can make JAWS verbalize pound sterling on an American
 keyboard. I copied the symbol into my JAWS dictionary and spelled out 
 pound

 for my replacement word.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
 northstar1950--- via Jfw
 Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 7:55 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: northstar1...@okiespirit.net
 Subject: Re: Pound Sign in Jaws

 hmmm, turn numlock and hold your alt key down and
 on the numpad while holding the alt key down
 enter 156 and you when you release the alt key
 you should have the sterling pound sign like this: £

 of course, jaws will not say anything but the symbol is there.


 Legend has it that on Saturday 7/18/2015 06:01 PM, Marsha via Jfw said:
 
Hi
  Is there a way, on an American keyboard, to
 type a British Pound sign? Thanks for any help.

Marsha

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
 



 http://www.sendspace.com/folder/i7xwg4Click
 here to check out my sendspace offerings!


 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
 -- next part --
 An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
 URL:
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150718/61e5a72e/attachment.html
 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com



-- 
Soronel Haetir
soronel.hae...@gmail.com

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Editing JAWS Special Keys List VKeyboard.jsm

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Soronel,

Yes, but the script formatting in the description headers is bizarre. There 
are tabs in some places, but not in others. I've not yet figured out the 
purpose of the various tabs in the Acute Capitals section to correctly 
insert more characters. If I can't figure it out, then I'll need to just 
substitute my 6 special characters in place of 6 others already in the list.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Soronel Haetir via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Soronel Haetir soronel.hae...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 09:01 AM
Subject: Re: Editing JAWS Special Keys List VKeyboard.jsm


I'm pretty sure all that is needed is changing both the appropriate
symbol and description lists in vkeyboard.jsm and then re-compiling
vkeyboard.jss.

I certainly don't see anything in vkeyboard.jss that looks like a static 
count.

On 7/19/15, Dave Carlson via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Hello Soronel,

 I recall that you need to edit not only the list, but change some 
 parameters
 to define a new list length? Do you perhaps still have the process?

 Dave Carlson
 Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

 - Original Message -
 From: Soronel Haetir via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Soronel Haetir soronel.hae...@gmail.com
 Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 09:24 PM
 Subject: Re: Pound Sign in Jaws


 And if you are a masochist you can even expand the list.

 You have to edit VKeyboard.jsm and then recompile VKeyboard.jss but it
 is possible. I forget what symbol I added to an earlier jaws version
 but I don't do that any more.

 On 7/18/15, Adrian Spratt via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Like Soronel and you, I find typing ANSI/ASCII equivalents frustrating.
 Northstar tells listers what to do when symbols aren't readily available
 from other sources. But the JAWS key+4 partial symbols list is a nice
 contribution from FS. There you can find, for example, em-dash and
 en-dash,
 ellipses, and numerous accented letters. Oh, and the pounds sterling 
 sign.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael B.
 via
 Jfw
 Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 12:03 AM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Michael B.
 Subject: Re: Pound Sign in Jaws

 Hi Adrian  Northstar,

 I'm not saying this to argue the ansi or ascii value of the sterling
 pounds

 number, but when I press the, NumPad 5 key, 3 times quickly on the
 sterling

 pounds symbol, it gives me a unicode number of 163.  But yet, if I turn
 the

 numpad on, hold down the Alt key, press 1, 6, 3, turn the numpad off, I
 get,

 ú.  doing what Norstar suggests  typing, 1, 5, 6 does give me the, £,
 symbol.  Whoops, I just tried typing, 0,1,6,3,  did get the, £, symbol.
 Damn, this ansi / ascii stuff can get confusing!  LOL  LOL
 Take care.
 Mike
 This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

 - Original Message -
 From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Adrian Spratt
 Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 8:15 PM
 Subject: RE: Pound Sign in Jaws


 Actually, you can make JAWS verbalize pound sterling on an American
 keyboard. I copied the symbol into my JAWS dictionary and spelled out
 pound

 for my replacement word.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
 northstar1950--- via Jfw
 Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 7:55 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: northstar1...@okiespirit.net
 Subject: Re: Pound Sign in Jaws

 hmmm, turn numlock and hold your alt key down and
 on the numpad while holding the alt key down
 enter 156 and you when you release the alt key
 you should have the sterling pound sign like this: £

 of course, jaws will not say anything but the symbol is there.


 Legend has it that on Saturday 7/18/2015 06:01 PM, Marsha via Jfw said:
 
Hi
  Is there a way, on an American keyboard, to
 type a British Pound sign? Thanks for any help.

Marsha

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
 



 http://www.sendspace.com/folder/i7xwg4Click
 here to check out my sendspace offerings!


 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
 -- next part --
 An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
 URL:
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150718/61e5a72e/attachment.html

Re: Jaws and customer service platforms

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

If it's an Oracle-based CRM or database, it will likely be difficult to use 
with JAWS.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: toml614 via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: Brad Martin via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: toml614 toml...@hotmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 07:30 AM
Subject: Jaws and customer service platforms


Good morning all, I was checking to see how to trick Jaws into working with 
customer service platforms. Also, what works best with Jaws? What questions 
need to be asked of a work site to see if it is compatible?

On Jul 7, 2015 8:20 PM, Brad Martin via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:

 My experience was quite the opposite actually. Now, let me say that for
 me the male voice was better than the female voice in the Kindle for PC
 with Accessibility plugin software, and as much as I hate slow speech, I
 found the slower speed less jarring than the faster rate. The male voice
 is Tom from the Realspeak set of voices, so it's like reading a novel
 being read by the guy who reads bulletins on your weather radio.
 Certainly it's not as good as a human narrator. Having said that, I have
 read entire books that way, and particularly with nonfiction, I didn't
 find it too bad. There are keystrokes (I can't name them right now
 because Kindle for PC is on my laptop and I am not) to allow you to go
 back to the previous page, and I think paragraph by paragraph. Also,
 when I close the book and reopen it, I'm at least at the top of the page
 where I left off. It wouldn't be my first choice for reading a book, but
 I haven't given up on it either, and I do love that I can buy a book
 like my sighted friends and start reading it in two seconds. I like it
 well enough to use it, but it's not my favorite way to read.

 Brad
 On 7/7/2015 5:13 PM, Adrian Spratt via Jfw wrote:
  Rick,
 
  I tried it several months ago with a book I needed to read on short 
  notice. I remember finding it extremely frustrating. As I recall, I 
  couldn't stop and have it start at the same point, but perhaps there's a 
  bookmark function that I somehow missed. As I recall, I also couldn't 
  conveniently go back to re-read a sentence or paragraph. As Soronel 
  indicates, the voice was horrible to listen to and hard to comprehend. 
  In the end, I bought the paperback and performed OCR on it so that I 
  could read it with JAWS.
 
  -Original Message- 
  From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Rick 
  Miller via Jfw
  Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 5:51 PM
  To: The Jaws for Windows support list.; The Jaws for Windows support 
  list.
  Cc: Rick Miller
  Subject: Re: Does Kindle Work Well With JAWS?
 
  Have you ever tried to read an actual e-book from Amazon using the 
  Kindle ap? If so, were you able to do it?
 
  Rick Miller
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message- 
  From: Soronel Haetir via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
  Sent: Jul 7, 2015 9:56 AM
  To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
  Cc: Soronel Haetir soronel.hae...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: Does Kindle Work Well With JAWS?
 
  Neither the regular or accessible kindle app REALLY works with jaws,
  what THE accessible version does is detect that an accessibility
  program is running (at least jaws, NVDA and window eyes are detected,
  don't know about others) and then enables self-voicing. My chief
  complaint is that the choice of voices is very limited and of even
  lower quality than my book port.
 
  If I have the choice between kindle, PDF and text kindle is always my
  last choice of formats.
 
  On 7/7/15, Rick Miller via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
  No. I just went straight to the regular Amazon page and to the book I
  wanted to download. Then I just downloaded the regular ap. If there is 
  a
  thing with a disability plug-in, then I will just remove what I 
  downloaded
  this morning.
 
  Rick Miller
 
 
  -Original Message- 
  From: Gary King via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
  Sent: Jul 7, 2015 7:29 AM
  To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
  Cc: Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net
  Subject: Re: Does Kindle Work Well With JAWS?
 
  Rick,
  Did you get the Kindle for PC with Accessibility Plugin? If you 
  didn't
  download that version, go to
 
  http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200596280
 
  and read the information on that page. There is also a download link.
 
  With this version of the program, JAWS reads the menus, while the 
  built-in
 
  speech that comes with the program reads the text of the book.
 
  If you are reading a novel or other book that you can read straight
  through,
  the program works fairly well. However, if you need to go to 
  different
  parts of a book or search for specific content, forget it. Navigation 
  is
  limited, and JAWS can't read the text in the book directly. The JAWS 
  OCR
  feature can give you access to the text of each page, but 

Re: envelopes in word 2013

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Cletus,

Are you sure that it's an MS issue and not a JAWS issue? Even though my Word 
2007 works, there are many instances where Office 2013 products made changes 
that JAWS struggled to catch up to.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Cletus Hostetler via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Cletus Hostetler clh...@myvmrc.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 09:23 AM
Subject: Re: envelopes in word 2013


I reported this problem about a year ago to Microsoft. they acknowledge that
the problem exists but It has still not been fixed. I suggest that  others
report it also.
Cletus Hostetler
-Original Message- 
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 8:02 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Subject: RE: envelopes in word 2013

I'll be following this one, because, for a while now, envelopes have been as
easy as pie; they almost address themselves.  Of course, I always do mine in
conjunction with a letter, and it's always known what to put where.  Haven't
done one in a while, As I haven't gotten around to replacing the empty black
cart in my Office Jet.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 7:08 PM
To: jfw
Cc: Kimsan
Subject: envelopes in word 2013

What luck do folks here have with addressing an envelope using word 2013.



I do alt m followed by e and it places me in an edit field but jaws does not
state what the edit field is.  Also, when I tab, nothing.

-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL:
http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150706/b5f6229c/attachment.html
___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: envelopes in word 2013

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Although not relevant to Word 2013, I tried it with Word 2007 and the latest 
JAWS build, and it's still working there, including tabbing around in the 
dialog.

I also saw a new feature that must have crept in  with an Office update --  
electronic postage. Apparently if you have software installed to create 
electronic postage, it will now integrate. Hope it can be fixed for you 
folks on 2013.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) ted.li...@ky.gov
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 05:02 AM
Subject: RE: envelopes in word 2013


I'll be following this one, because, for a while now, envelopes have been as 
easy as pie; they almost address themselves.  Of course, I always do mine in 
conjunction with a letter, and it's always known what to put where.  Haven't 
done one in a while, As I haven't gotten around to replacing the empty black 
cart in my Office Jet.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 7:08 PM
To: jfw
Cc: Kimsan
Subject: envelopes in word 2013

What luck do folks here have with addressing an envelope using word 2013.



I do alt m followed by e and it places me in an edit field but jaws does not 
state what the edit field is.  Also, when I tab, nothing.

-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150706/b5f6229c/attachment.html
___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

HP 1102P Toner Cartridge

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Glad to, but only off list. Both you  requesters need to write to my direct 
email address dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net so I can reply directly -- off list.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Hourigan via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kevin Hourigan kevinthouri...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 06:53 AM
Subject: Re: printer accessibility


I could use that information also, please post it.
Cheers Kevin.

-Original Message- 
From: joseph weakland via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 6:23 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: joseph weakland
Subject: Re: printer accessibility

speaking of printers if anyone here knows how to change the toner for a
printer HP LaserJet Professional P 1102w
can you give me steps if you have to write me directly thanks.

- Original Message - 
From: Brad Martin via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Brad Martin b...@formyfriends.org
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: printer accessibility


 Several points on accessibility of printers:

 Stan, although Gerald is correct that many printers now have touchscreens,
 most functions, at least with my printer, can also be controlled with
 software on your computer. Although the printer that Adrian is talking
 about is a laser, and black and white, you seem to be in the market for
 another color inkjet. Brother makes a line of those, including the
 MFC-J870DW. As I said, my all in one came with Brother Control Center
 which reads surprisingly well with JAWS. I've not actually seen the 870,
 but older Brother inkjets came with a version of Control Center, so I
 would assume the 870 would too. I use Control Center 4 with JAWS 15, and
 it reads quite well.

 Adrian, to your point about changing the toner, you find it difficult? I
 guess I'm used to it, having worked with a ton of Brother printers going
 back to the hl-2040 for work. It's really pretty easy. That's a non-JAWS
 topic, but if I can give you any pointers, feel free to Email me off list
 at b...@formyfriends.org

 Best to all,
 Brad



 On 6/26/2015 11:12 AM, Adrian Spratt via Jfw wrote:
 Stan,

 Make sure you read Brad's very positive message from last night about his
 Brother model. I have the basic Brother laser jet printer, Brother
 HL-2270DW Compact, which I purchased from Amazon. The customer reviews
 there gave me tips that helped accessibility, even though they weren't
 directed to a visually impaired audience. The one I remember is that when
 the printer cartridge appears to be dying, press the start button seven
 times rapidly in succession to get more life out of it. I do find
 installing a new cartridge difficult without sighted assistance, but it's
 doable. With a laser printer, the need to replace cartridges is much less
 frequent than you will have found it with an ink jet model. Even though
 the price of laser cartridges is higher, they last so much longer that I
 suspect they're cheaper over time.

 Others have posted positive experiences with HP printers. I had one for
 years, and it was a workhorse. However, when it finally met its maker, I
 replaced it with an HP 1102, the newer version of my old model. This 1102
 had several problems. For one thing, the laser cartridges didn't last
 nearly as long. More important, pages printed out with defects, such as
 random lines down the middle. I called HP's customer service, but they
 required that I work with them in a process that would require sighted
 assistance. I couldn't have anyone sit with me through such a long,
 drawn-out procedure. Then I learned about HP's number for disabled
 customers. Others here have reported positive experiences with this
 department. Mine was aggravating in the extreme. I was on hold for more
 than seventy minutes before someone answered the first time I called. As
 I spoke to the rep, I became convinced I needed a replacement. I must
 have been out of warranty at that point, although I hadn't had the
 printer for the length of time I'd have expected, so I bought a new 1102.
 Almost immediately I experienced the same problems with page quality.
 Once again I called the line for disabled customers, and I was kept on
 hold for so long that I decided to say farewell to HP and hello to
 Brother.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Stan
 Holdeman via Jfw
 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 10:52 AM
 To: jfw list
 Cc: Stan Holdeman
 Subject: printer accessibility

 It is time for me to replace my HP 3915 ink jet printer. I suspect that
 just about any wireless, color, stand alone printer out there will meet
 my modest demands for quality and speed.

 My concern is accessibility. Can I assume that HP, Epson, Brother
 printers are accessible for routine printing purposes? Should I be warned
 off of something?

Printing Photos Using a Kiosk

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Gerald,

Many drug store type businesses have a kiosk where you can connect your 
flash drive or even your iPhone/android direct to the machine. A graphical 
display with touch pads  then allows you to browse through your folders and 
files to select the images you want printed. You select the size and finish, 
enter your name and phone number, press OK a couple times, and hit print. Go 
about your other shopping and later visit the kiosk to pick up your print 
job. Pay at the register for those you decide to keep.



Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Gerald Levy via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 04:09 AM
Subject: Re: printer accessibility



I don't get it.  Which store will perform printing jobs for you?  Best Buy?
Staples?  McDonald's?  WalMart?  Please explain.  And how do you transport
the document you want to print to this mysterious store?  Do you copy and
paste it to a flash drive or what?  I really don't understand how this
works.

Gerald


- Original Message - 
From: Roy Dubriel via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: roydubr...@cfl.rr.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: printer accessibility


I have been using Jaws since Jaws32,who knows how long ago that was?I
 do not know how many printers I have had,but I solved my printing jobs by
 going to the store and using one of their printers.I would suggest you do
 likewise.It is cheeper that way!

 Roy Dubriel

 -Original Message- 
 From: Stan Holdeman via Jfw
 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 10:52 AM
 To: jfw list
 Cc: Stan Holdeman
 Subject: printer accessibility

 It is time for me to replace my HP 3915 ink jet printer. I suspect that
 just about any wireless, color, stand alone printer out there will meet my
 modest demands for quality and speed.

 My concern is accessibility. Can I assume that HP, Epson, Brother printers
 are accessible for routine printing purposes? Should I be warned off of
 something?

 My screen reader is Jaws 16.

 Thanks for your help.
 Stan
 -- next part --
 An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
 URL:
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150626/464c5276/attachment.html
 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Survey Monkey

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Brad,

This won't help, but will affirm...I tried to set up a survey using Survey 
Monkey a couple years ago for a college course, and ended up having a work 
colleague do it for me. It was very *not* accessible to set up the survey.

Yes, in spite of it being easy to use to complete a survey, creating one is 
a very different matter. I don't know of any alternative, sorry.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Brad Martin via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Brad Martin b...@formyfriends.org
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 07:47 PM
Subject: Survey Monkey


I feel sure somebody's brought this topic up before, but I didn't need
the information then. I just tried to create a survey in Survey Monkey,
because everybody uses it, and I've never had any trouble taking surveys
with it. But creating a survey left me feeling like I'd just spent an
hour running in circles and not really sure where I was when I finished.
I tried Firefox and Internet Explorer 11, hoping that one or the other
would be easier to follow. I had a little better luck in Internet
Explorer, but honestly I just closed the damn thing in complete
frustration.

1. Does anybody have any tips for creating surveys in Survey Monkey that
won't leave me feeling like I want a drink.
or
2. Can anyone recommend an alternative that won't make me want a drink.

P.S. I'm not a drinking man, but if I wanted to start, Survey Monkey has
certainly provided the incentive.

Thanks in advance,
Brad


-- 
Brad Martin
b...@formyfriends.org mailto:b...@formyfriends.org
My Facebook page where I post online shopping coupons and deals:
facebook.com/ucoupons http://www.facebook.com/ucoupons
My SmarterBucks signup link http://bit.ly/1w5FCPu
-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150627/c4e41a30/attachment.html
___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Scanners.

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

I seriously doubt that the Pearl camera will work with any software except 
Openbook. FS is not releasing the drivers to use with any other products.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk rsolowon...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 04:33 PM
Subject: Re: Scanners.


I’m not sure about scanning pictures with the Pearl. Dan is right… the Pearl 
and OpenBook do have limitations… it all depends on what you wish to do. For 
me, I mostly use my iMac with a Canon MG6200 printer/scanner combo and it 
works very well. But, when I have a lot of mail to scan, I’ll fire up my 
laptop running Windows 8.1 and use my Pearl and Openbook to scan the mail 
because it’s so fast.

I’ve had good success with inexpensive flatbed scanners on my Windows 
machine, for example, a Canon, can’t recall the model, that I paid $80 for. 
I used OmniPage Pro to do the OCR.

So there are many choices, and, if you need to scan pictures and print then 
a 3-in-1 combo may be what you need.

Thanks,

Russell
 On Jun 25, 2015, at 3:32 PM, Carolyn Arnold via Jfw 
 jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:

 OK - another wrung on this ladder to educate me.
 With Pearl, could we scan photographs on it too?

 Thanks.

 Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Henry 
 Ford.

 Carolyn

 - Original Message - From: Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw 
 jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Russell Solowoniuk rsolowon...@gmail.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 4:31 PM
 Subject: Re: Scanners.


 Hi,

 If you are going with OpenBook, you might want to consider the Pearl. It’s 
 a camera on a stand, and in conjunction with OpenBook, works really well. 
 It takes a picture of the page and sends it to OpenBook for the OCR. 
 Within seconds of taking the picture you will hear the page being read to 
 you. I’m not sure what it sells for now… when I bought mine 5 years ago 
 the Pearl camera was $650… I already owned OpenBook. I think FS has a 
 combo price if you buy both together, but it’s still quite expensive.

 HTH

 Russell
 On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Michal Nowicki via Jfw 
 jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:

 Carolyn,

 I am by no means an expert on scanners, but whatever you get, you need 
 to
 understand that scanning requires both hardware (the scanner) and 
 software
 (a computer program that makes use of the scanner).  OpenBook is not a
 scanner.  Instead, it is scanning and OCR software that works with many
 scanners.

 If I understand your post correctly, you are considering purchasing an
 all-in-one printer, fax, and scanner.  While such products work great 
 for
 sighted individuals, I'm not sure how many of them, if any, can be 
 operated
 nonvisually.  For example, I know that some all-in-one devices have an
 inaccessible touch screen, and it is not possible to control them from a
 computer.  That said, it may be better for you to buy two or three 
 pieces of
 equipment if, of course, you can afford it.  I also recommend scanners 
 with
 an automatic feeder.

 I hope this helps, and I'm sorry I cannot provide specific advice (e.g.
 with regards to device models).

 Michal

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn 
 Arnold
 via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:49 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Carolyn Arnold
 Subject: Scanners.

 When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next, 
 I
 intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability.

 So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special
 scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out 
 there
 more accessible than others?

 What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting 
 that or
 something like that?

 Thanks.

 Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Henry 
 Ford.

 Carolyn
 -- next part --
 An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
 URL:
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201506
 25/3bf180e6/attachment.html
 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list

Re: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 Outlook 2007

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

You're welcome. Glad we could help.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: O.Addison Gethers via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: O.Addison Gethers o.addisongeth...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 07:56 AM
Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 Outlook 
2007


Hi Bill and Harry and others,
I want to say thank you guys for helping me to show me how to send
attachment in  e-mail because I able to to send attachment so I open a new
message when I got into message I paste the picture  then I started typing a
message then I press shift + tab I heard attachment  I did it.


-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via
Jfw
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 10:18 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 Outlook
2007

I'd paste the picture at the top, press Enter, write the message, then send
it. The reason for this is that, if you paste the picture at the top, after
doing a tab from Subject, you can then do a shift tab back and see if your
attachment is there, before you even write your message.
Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
- Original Message - 
From: O.Addison Gethers via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: O.Addison Gethers o.addisongeth...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:35 PM
Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 Outlook
2007


 So when I open a new message when I press tab it's say cc then press tab
 again it's say subject  then press tab it's say message edit so when I
 start
 typing the message and when I get through finish typing the message then I
 will press ctrl + v to paste the picture at the bottom ? I want to make
 sure
 if I got it right before I get ready to send it or not!!


 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White
 via
 Jfw
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 7:43 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Bill White
 Subject: Re: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 Outlook
 2007

 Yes. Paste the file on a blank line, above the message you are going to
 write.
 Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
 - Original Message -
 From: Kevin Hourigan via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Kevin Hourigan kevinthouri...@gmail.com
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 4:27 PM
 Subject: Re: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 Outlook
 2007


I do not have Outlook, but typically the body is where you write the
main body of your letter. In Windows Live Mail one tabs from the send
to edit box to cc, to bc, to subject, to the body of the letter. Do I
understand the directions correctly; in Outlook one just pastes an
attachment in the main body edit area?
 Thanks,
 Cheers Kevin.
 -Original Message-
 From: O.Addison Gethers via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 5:11 PM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: O.Addison Gethers
 Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook
 2007

 Hello Harry,
 Man I don't know what is the body of the e-mail is? If I'm not
 mistaken when you say body ,Are you mean in message ?


 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Harry
 Spencer
 via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 6:14 PM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: Harry Spencer
 Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 Outlook
 2007

 Just paste in the body of the email. Harry

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of O.Addison
 Gethers via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:13 PM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: O.Addison Gethers
 Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 Outlook
 2007

 Hi Brissett,
 I want to send a picture in attachment ,if I find the picture that I want
 in
 attachment so I press ctrl + c  to copy then open a new message in e-mail
 to
 the person I want to send the picture where do I paste the picture by
 press
 ctrl +v where in message?


 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bissett,
 Tom
 via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:01 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Bissett, Tom
 Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 Outlook
 2007

 Or you can find the document you want to attach, copy it to the clipboard
 with control+C and paste it into your email.  It will put it in as an
 attachment.
 Tom Bisset
 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal
 Nowicki
 via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:42 AM
 

Re: doing a jaws repair

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Ryan,

If you have a copy of your current original JAWS executable file, why not 
just do an install of that version?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Ryan Coverdell via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Ryan Coverdell rmcove...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 09:33 AM
Subject: doing a jaws repair


I had malware on my computer and in the process of restoring Jaws it
no longer works right. I can tab from link to link using google chrome
but I cannot read using the arrow keys. On IE 11 I can do neither.
FREEDOM SCIENTIFIC said I need to do a repair of Jaws. I could not
stay and do it, but they said they were willing to assist. The next
time I would be able to call them is Thursday, June 2,5. I'd rather
not wait that long if I can help it. Is any one on this list competent
doing a Jaws repair and could walk me through it? If you are could you
contact me off list? If it's an easy enough process could you send me
instructions? If not, could you give me your phone number and the
times you are available? I'll be around most of today and on Monday,
Tuesday, and Wednesday evenings after 6 P.M. Mountain standard time.
I'd really like to get this fixed. Jaws 14, windows 7.  I'm writing
this message on my Pac Mate Omni, which is now the only device I have
that reads web-based text pages.  Happy Father's Day tomorrow,
 Ryan Coverdell

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: quick question about this list

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Mario,

I'm no expert on how this list works, but I suspect that if it ain't 
broken, don't fix it would be the best advice.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Mario via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Mario mrb...@hotmail.com
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 06:24 AM
Subject: Re: quick question about this list


Dave, a stupid question, and I think I know what the answer would be,
but still would appreciate an answer to confirm my thoughts:
I also noticed these cc fields showing up, but I didn't do anything to
make it start showing up. if I don't do anything, do I still have to
tweak my subscription. I do receive my own posts via the ml, but no
duplicates.



On 5/22/2015 9:02 AM, Dave Carlson via Jfw wrote:
 Might be that your gmail server is not allowing the copies to get to you.
 Are you receiving your mail on an iDevice or a computer? On my iDevice I 
 can
 select whether to get copies of messages I personally send. Perhaps that's
 it.

 Dave Carlson
 Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

 - Original Message -
 From: Kimsan via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
 Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 11:31 PM
 Subject: RE: quick question about this list


 Sorry, I was kidding.

 You are one of the list members I like being sarcastic with.


 But, since I'm here, it's late, so I'm rather stupid at the moment, below 
 it
 shows my email in the cc field, so I still have to go to the site and make
 that selection to receive copies of the replies?
 From: Kimsan via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
 via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 10:37 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Dave Carlson
 Subject: Re: quick question about this list

 If you don't receive copies of your messages, then I think you need to 
 visit
 the list web site and select that feature amongst the various choices 
 there.

 Dave Carlson
 Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

 - Original Message -
 From: Kimsan via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
 Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 08:03 PM
 Subject: RE: quick question about this list


 Why didn't I get a copy then.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
 via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 4:00 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Dave Carlson
 Subject: Re: quick question about this list

 Automatic.

 Dave Carlson
 Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

 - Original Message -
 From: Kimsan via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
 Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 02:43 PM
 Subject: quick question about this list


 I'm noticing in the CC field are the email addresses for who ever composes
 or replies.  Is this done by the person who is composing the email, or the
 mailing list.



 If it is the latter lol, I never get copies of the emails when I send a
 message.



 I only see it on this list, btw.





 Thank you, now I am off to go eat buffalo wings!

 -- next part --
 An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
 URL:
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201505
 21/ba016af2/attachment.html
 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com




___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: quick question about this list

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Might be that your gmail server is not allowing the copies to get to you. 
Are you receiving your mail on an iDevice or a computer? On my iDevice I can 
select whether to get copies of messages I personally send. Perhaps that's 
it.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Kimsan via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 11:31 PM
Subject: RE: quick question about this list


Sorry, I was kidding.

You are one of the list members I like being sarcastic with.


But, since I'm here, it's late, so I'm rather stupid at the moment, below it
shows my email in the cc field, so I still have to go to the site and make
that selection to receive copies of the replies?
From: Kimsan via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 10:37 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Dave Carlson
Subject: Re: quick question about this list

If you don't receive copies of your messages, then I think you need to visit
the list web site and select that feature amongst the various choices there.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message -
From: Kimsan via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 08:03 PM
Subject: RE: quick question about this list


Why didn't I get a copy then.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 4:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Dave Carlson
Subject: Re: quick question about this list

Automatic.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Kimsan via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 02:43 PM
Subject: quick question about this list


I'm noticing in the CC field are the email addresses for who ever composes
or replies.  Is this done by the person who is composing the email, or the
mailing list.



If it is the latter lol, I never get copies of the emails when I send a
message.



I only see it on this list, btw.





Thank you, now I am off to go eat buffalo wings!

-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL:
http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201505
21/ba016af2/attachment.html
___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: UNSUBSCRIBE

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Donna,

Okay. But if you really want to, you have to  go to the web site given below 
every message written.

http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Donna Hardy via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Donna Hardy dlhard...@tampabay.rr.com
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 05:00 AM
Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE




-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150522/b388cf6a/attachment.html
___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: a1 style versus r1c1 style in excel 2010

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Mike,

I'm pretty sure that the R1C1 setting in Excel refers to how a cell is used 
within formulas, etc. JAWS does not have a setting to change how a cell is 
identified.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: mike mcglashon via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: jaws mailing list jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: mike mcglashon michael.mcglas...@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 09:11 AM
Subject: a1 style versus r1c1 style in excel 2010


hi guys:

I am using excel 2010 and when I change the style from a1 to r1c1 in the 
settings, sighted persons say it does change but jaws still reads it as if 
it is a1, b1, c1, etc instead of r1c1, r1c2, r1c3 etc.

any ideas?

-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150522/9f11e42b/attachment.html
___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: a1 style versus r1c1 style in excel 2010

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Mike,

Okay, then I think it deserves a call to Freedom Scientific to report it as 
a bug or as a feature request.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: mike mcglashon via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: mike mcglashon michael.mcglas...@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 09:30 AM
Subject: Re: a1 style versus r1c1 style in excel 2010


I might buy this point if a sighted person had not told me that the cell
reference bar shows the numbers and not the letters.  that is why I think
jaws is not reading correctly.


-Original Message- 
From: Dave Carlson via Jfw
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 11:23 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Dave Carlson
Subject: Re: a1 style versus r1c1 style in excel 2010

Mike,

I'm pretty sure that the R1C1 setting in Excel refers to how a cell is used
within formulas, etc. JAWS does not have a setting to change how a cell is
identified.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: mike mcglashon via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: jaws mailing list jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: mike mcglashon michael.mcglas...@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 09:11 AM
Subject: a1 style versus r1c1 style in excel 2010


hi guys:

I am using excel 2010 and when I change the style from a1 to r1c1 in the
settings, sighted persons say it does change but jaws still reads it as if
it is a1, b1, c1, etc instead of r1c1, r1c2, r1c3 etc.

any ideas?

-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL:
http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150522/9f11e42b/attachment.html
___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: quick question about this list

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Automatic.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Kimsan via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 02:43 PM
Subject: quick question about this list


I'm noticing in the CC field are the email addresses for who ever composes
or replies.  Is this done by the person who is composing the email, or the
mailing list.



If it is the latter lol, I never get copies of the emails when I send a
message.



I only see it on this list, btw.





Thank you, now I am off to go eat buffalo wings!

-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150521/ba016af2/attachment.html
___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: quick question about this list

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

If you don't receive copies of your messages, then I think you need to visit 
the list web site and select that feature amongst the various choices there.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Kimsan via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 08:03 PM
Subject: RE: quick question about this list


Why didn't I get a copy then.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 4:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Dave Carlson
Subject: Re: quick question about this list

Automatic.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Kimsan via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 02:43 PM
Subject: quick question about this list


I'm noticing in the CC field are the email addresses for who ever composes
or replies.  Is this done by the person who is composing the email, or the
mailing list.



If it is the latter lol, I never get copies of the emails when I send a
message.



I only see it on this list, btw.





Thank you, now I am off to go eat buffalo wings!

-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL:
http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201505
21/ba016af2/attachment.html
___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: jaws and solid state drives

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Frankly, I'm jealous.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Caitlin Best via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Caitlin Best bestc...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 06:23 PM
Subject: jaws and solid state drives


Hello,
I'm in the market for a new laptop. It is asus Zen with 8GB RAM and a 250gb 
SSD. What do you lovely ladies and gentlemen think?
Thank you,
Caitlin

Sent from my iPhone
___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Retriving Authorization code

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Barbara,

I think Mike is correct. It will not be in the JAWS/Help/About dialog, which 
is what I think you're describing. It will be in the dialog during the 
authorization process. You can start this from JAWS/Help/Update 
Authorization and moving through a couple dialogs.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Mcginnis, Barbara via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Mcginnis, Barbara barbara.mcgin...@dhhs.nc.gov
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 06:35 AM
Subject: RE: Retriving Authorization code


I just checked, the JAWS authorization key number is not displayed.  There 
is the serial number and then there is a locking code, which is the code you 
are given once you enter the authorization number as you install JAWS.

-Original Message-
From: Michael Mote via Jfw [mailto:jfw@lists.the-jdh.com]
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 9:19 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michael Mote
Subject: RE: Retriving Authorization code

You can retrieve the Authorization code, if you go through the authorization 
process.  That is, if you have already authorized JAWS.  Normally, the code 
will display.  If it were me, I would copy and paste it from there, and save 
it somewhere.


-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki 
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 5:32 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: Retriving Authorization code

I don't think you can retrieve it from JAWS itself, but you can always get 
it from FS.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jean Menzies 
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 4:09 PM
To: Jaws list
Cc: Jean Menzies
Subject: Retriving Authorization code

Is it possible to retrieve my authorization code from Jaws itself? I thought 
I had it written down, but somehow it’s not where I thought I had it 
recorded. About under the Help menu only shows serial number, etc.

Jean
-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150514/3987038a/attachment.html
___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com



E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North 
Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by an 
authorized state official.



Email correspondence to and from this address is subject to the North 
Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by an 
authorized State official. Unauthorized disclosure of juvenile, health, 
legally privileged, or otherwise confidential information, including 
confidential information relating to an ongoing State procurement effort, is 
prohibited by law. If you have received this email in error, please notify 
the sender immediately and delete all records of this email.



Email correspondence to and from this sender is subject to the N.C. Public 
Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties.
___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Inquiry about the use of Jaws with Oracle database

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Sad to say, that in my past work experience with Oracle 11 it was a very 
difficult interface. the only way I was able to use it was if there was an 
html-based front-end overlay to the database structure. In other words, the 
actual Oracle interface was very unfriendly, in spite of all the Java 
plug-ins and access bridge. I usually tried to avoid using it whenever 
possible.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Soronel Haetir via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Soronel Haetir soronel.hae...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 08:46 PM
Subject: Re: Inquiry about the use of Jaws with Oracle database


Given that everything oracle related is java based I would suspect
that it is fairly spotty, but it has been far longer than since I have
gone blind that I have done anything with Oracle products so can't
really say  from personal experience. Even when I could see I was not
nearly as impressed with the Oracle management tools as the equivalent
from MS.

I do know that oracle has a command line tool similar to MS' sqlcmd
and I would expect that to work fine with jaws.

On 5/15/15, Carlos Fischer via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Dear list members,
 Can anybody assist me with the inquiry I received about the compatibility
 of
 Jaws with Oracle ?
 Probably I should be more specific, as I suppose that just by mentioning
 Oracle is too ambiguous. With your input, I can then better approach the
 user´s question.
 Thanks very much in advance for your help.
 Kind regards
 Carlos Fischer
 Buenos Aires
 Argentina

 -Mensaje original-
 De: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] En nombre de
 jfw-requ...@lists.the-jdh.com
 Enviado el: viernes, 15 de mayo de 2015 12:47 p.m.
 Para: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Asunto: Jfw Digest, Vol 48, Issue 11

 Send Jfw mailing list submissions to
 jfw@lists.the-jdh.com

 To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
 jfw-requ...@lists.the-jdh.com

 You can reach the person managing the list at
 jfw-ow...@lists.the-jdh.com

 When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than
 Re: Contents of Jfw digest...


 ---
 El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electrónico en 
 busca
 de virus.
 http://www.avast.com


 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com



-- 
Soronel Haetir
soronel.hae...@gmail.com

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Excel shortcut for autofit?

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Paul,

I believe you are correct. You cannot have both. I personally do not like 
the Virtual menus, because they do not support first-letter navigation as do 
standard menus. Therefore I stick to the ribbon and just learn how to use 
it.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Martz via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Paul Martz skewmat...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 07:16 AM
Subject: RE: Excel shortcut for autofit?


Thanks, everyone.

Now here's a slightly related question. MS has their own keyboard interface
for the ribbon UI, as in Alt then H, O, I. But you can also turn on the
JAWS rinnon UI to make the ribbon feel more like a system of menus and
submenus. I can see how both might be useful, but they seem to be mutually
exclusive. When I turn on the JAWS ribbon UI, the MS ribbon keyboard
inbterface seems to stop working.

Does anyone know how to set up JAWS so that both the MS interface and the
JAWS interface to the ribbon UI are available? Then I could choose to use
one or the other interface, depending on which is most convenient, personal
preference, etc.

My guess is that this is simply not possible. I have to choose one or the
other.
   -Paul



___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Excel shortcut for autofit?

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

I believe that Freedom Scientific has an on-line training module on 
navigating the ribbon.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 10:09 AM
Subject: RE: Excel shortcut for autofit?


Dave and others,

Any advice on best way(s) to learn the ribbon? I've tried and just don't 
seem to get it. I often get lost and can't seem to find what I'm looking 
for.

Once I learn a specific set of keystrokes for use within the ribbon, I'm OK.

Thanks for any help. Keith

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson 
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 11:08 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Dave Carlson
Subject: Re: Excel shortcut for autofit?

Paul,

I believe you are correct. You cannot have both. I personally do not like 
the Virtual menus, because they do not support first-letter navigation as do 
standard menus. Therefore I stick to the ribbon and just learn how to use 
it.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message -
From: Paul Martz via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Paul Martz skewmat...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 07:16 AM
Subject: RE: Excel shortcut for autofit?


Thanks, everyone.

Now here's a slightly related question. MS has their own keyboard interface
for the ribbon UI, as in Alt then H, O, I. But you can also turn on the
JAWS rinnon UI to make the ribbon feel more like a system of menus and
submenus. I can see how both might be useful, but they seem to be mutually
exclusive. When I turn on the JAWS ribbon UI, the MS ribbon keyboard
inbterface seems to stop working.

Does anyone know how to set up JAWS so that both the MS interface and the
JAWS interface to the ribbon UI are available? Then I could choose to use
one or the other interface, depending on which is most convenient, personal
preference, etc.

My guess is that this is simply not possible. I have to choose one or the
other.
   -Paul



___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: HJPad

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Keith,

This is not part of Win 7, it is part of JAWS. Here's the location for 
JAWS16 on a Win 7 installation:

C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\16.0\HJPAD.EXE

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 05:02 PM
Subject: RE: HJPad


I give up. Where is it in Windows 7? I can't find it. Keith

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Londa Peterson 
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 3:53 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Londa Peterson
Subject: HJPad

I recently saw that someone was wanting to find HJPad and couldn't do so. In 
Windows 7, this is fairly easy, but not so in Windows 8.1. I got curious, so 
I started looking around. I finally found it, and here's how I did it.

1.   Press the Windows key to get to the start screen if you aren't
already there.

2.   Tab once. You will land on a button that says apps.

3.   Press the space bar to activate this  button.

4.   You will then be presented with a very long list of everything that
is on your computer. Type jaws. It will automatically go into the search 
box.

5.   Start arrowing down. The item you want is called utilities JAWS
16. I assume if you're using a different version number you would find the 
same thing with the number of your JAWS version. I only have 16 on the 
particular machine I tested on.

6.   Press enter on this item, and you will find all of the things you
used to find in the JAWS program group in all programs on older versions of 
Windows.

Hope this helps someone out.

-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150511/9b65e0b2/attachment.html
___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: HJPad

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Keith,

I suggest you reinstall JAWS. Sounds like something was corrupted or 
interrupted.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 06:19 PM
Subject: RE: HJPad


I followed this path in Windows Explorer and the HJPad.exe was not there.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson 
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 7:42 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Dave Carlson
Subject: Re: HJPad

Keith,

This is not part of Win 7, it is part of JAWS. Here's the location for
JAWS16 on a Win 7 installation:

C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\16.0\HJPAD.EXE

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 05:02 PM
Subject: RE: HJPad


I give up. Where is it in Windows 7? I can't find it. Keith

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Londa Peterson
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 3:53 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Londa Peterson
Subject: HJPad

I recently saw that someone was wanting to find HJPad and couldn't do so. In
Windows 7, this is fairly easy, but not so in Windows 8.1. I got curious, so
I started looking around. I finally found it, and here's how I did it.

1.   Press the Windows key to get to the start screen if you aren't
already there.

2.   Tab once. You will land on a button that says apps.

3.   Press the space bar to activate this  button.

4.   You will then be presented with a very long list of everything that
is on your computer. Type jaws. It will automatically go into the search
box.

5.   Start arrowing down. The item you want is called utilities JAWS
16. I assume if you're using a different version number you would find the
same thing with the number of your JAWS version. I only have 16 on the
particular machine I tested on.

6.   Press enter on this item, and you will find all of the things you
used to find in the JAWS program group in all programs on older versions of
Windows.

Hope this helps someone out.

-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL:
http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150511/9b65e0b2/attachment.html
___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: on subscribe

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

I think you need to go to the web site in order to unsubscribe.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Tracy via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Tracy rainbow...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 04:34 AM
Subject: on subscribe




Sent from Teresa's iPhone

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: notebook, netbooks etc

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Jim,

Regardless of brand, try to get one with a separate number keypad, to make 
using JAWS easier, and to facilitate switching between a full-size keyboard 
and your laptop. I have a Dell Latitude E-series with the 15-inch monitor, 
which gives ample space for that separate numeric keypad.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Jim L via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Jim L jimsc...@tpg.com.au
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 04:05 PM
Subject: notebook, netbooks etc


Heya folks,

Am in the hunt for a good notebook, netbook etc that works great with Jaws,
I want an easy to use keyboard and windows 8.1 of course, any
recommendations would appreciated.

Cheers,

Jim



___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Recommend me a flatbed scanner

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Epson GT 2500. A monster, but fast and duplex-capable. Also comes standard 
with the automatic document feeder.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Feliciano Godoy via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: Freedom Scientific Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Feliciano Godoy theblindman...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 06:28 AM
Subject: Recommend me a flatbed scanner


Hi, I would like to know what flatbed scanners you guys are using and would 
like a recommendation. The computer is Windows 8.1. I will be checking some 
out at my local retail store, but would like to have an idea on what people 
are using. Thanks



___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: running about:blank does not work

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Ctrl+O in IE and then type about:blank. Then go to the tools/options menu 
and select use current to always have the blank come up when you start IE

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: David Moore via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: David Moore jesusloves1...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 02:22 PM
Subject: running about:blank does not work


Hi all, I tried pressing Windows key +R and typed in   about:blank
 and I got the message that there is no app that can open that link
and it brought up the store.  I have windows 8.1 and IE 11.  Why does
this not work for me?  Also, someone said to press ctrl + L in IE.
CTRL + L is the command you use in Firefox to type in an address.  In
ff, instead of CTRL + O, it is CTRL + L.  As far as I know, CTRL + L
is no good in IE.

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Screen rotation

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Good point, but in order to not have the JAWS hotkey rotate the screen, we 
still need to go to the graphics dialog and turn off the hotkey that does 
it.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: David Moore via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: David Moore jesusloves1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 02:38 PM
Subject: Screen rotation


Hi Guys, I can answer this one.  The other day, I gave my computer to
my sighted wife and the print was sideways on the screen, portrate
mode.  I went to control panel, and typed in landscape which is what
you want.  A link showed up right under saying display settings.  I
hit enter and there is an entire dialog telling you how the screen is
showing.  I saw, for example, that the choice was on portrate and I
used arrows and got it on landscape.  There are all kinds of choices
in that dialog box to change the display settings and JAWS reads the
state of all of them.  Many of the controls are combo boxes or check
boxes.  Well, that is how you know what your screen is looking like.
Use the search box in control panel to type in what you are thinking.
You will be amazed how easy it is to find the correct link with the
settings that you can have JAWS read to you or you can change!  Take
care all of you.

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Screen rotation.

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Tom,

Yes, you've given the actual cure to the disease, and not just the symptoms.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Tom Lange via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Tom Lange lang...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 03:31 PM
Subject: Re: Screen rotation.


Hi Greg,
This problem is not unique to Dell laptops; I've run into this issue with
Dell desktop machines that have an Intel graphics adapter.  I think the
shortcut that caused the screen rotation is ctrl+alt+right arrow, and to set
it back to normal may be ctrl+alt+up arrow.  If that doesn't work, put focus
on the desktop and make sure that nothing is selected.  Then bring up the
context menu with the applications key or shift+f10, and look for something
related to Intel Graphics.  Open that submenu and in there you should see an
option to reorient the screen. You may also see something that will disable
screen rotation.

Hope that helps.

Tom


- Original Message - 
From: Greg Nickel via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Greg Nickel greg.nickel.wo...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 2:52 PM
Subject: Screen rotation.


 Hi all.



 From time to time my screen orientation gets rotated 90 degrees.  I only
 know this because my wife happens to see my screen.  When it is brought to
 my attention, I then recollect that I have frequent cursor jumping and
 other
 minor focus issues.  Since they were only annoyances that I chalked up to
 the idiosyncrasies of JAWS I didn't know to fix the problem.



 So, here's a couple questions:



 1.   What is the shortcut to re-orientate or rotate the screen?

 2.   Is there any audio cue that can be assigned to indicate the
 screen
 has rotated?

 Not sure what the shortcut key is that rotates the screen but it must be
 similar or adjacent to one that I use since this seems to happen to me
 reasonably frequently.



 Thanks.



 -- next part --
 An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
 URL:
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150425/cb8080b7/attachment.html
 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Screen rotation.

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Greg,

It's there, and you just need to look further in the dialog. Perhaps hidden 
in a menu tree.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Greg Nickel via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Greg Nickel greg.nickel.wo...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 03:39 PM
Subject: RE: Screen rotation.


Yes...Tom, that's got it.

Trick is that when you go to the desk top using shortcut key like windows M
ore windows D you have to tap away from focus then open the context menue
where I found Graphic options and could arrow to rotate to normal.

Certainly would be nice to know when/if it changes...Couldn't find the
option to turn off this shortcut.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Lange via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 3:32 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Tom Lange
Subject: Re: Screen rotation.

Hi Greg,
This problem is not unique to Dell laptops; I've run into this issue with
Dell desktop machines that have an Intel graphics adapter.  I think the
shortcut that caused the screen rotation is ctrl+alt+right arrow, and to set

it back to normal may be ctrl+alt+up arrow.  If that doesn't work, put focus

on the desktop and make sure that nothing is selected.  Then bring up the
context menu with the applications key or shift+f10, and look for something
related to Intel Graphics.  Open that submenu and in there you should see an

option to reorient the screen. You may also see something that will disable
screen rotation.

Hope that helps.

Tom


- Original Message - 
From: Greg Nickel via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Greg Nickel greg.nickel.wo...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 2:52 PM
Subject: Screen rotation.


 Hi all.



 From time to time my screen orientation gets rotated 90 degrees.  I only
 know this because my wife happens to see my screen.  When it is brought to
 my attention, I then recollect that I have frequent cursor jumping and
 other
 minor focus issues.  Since they were only annoyances that I chalked up to
 the idiosyncrasies of JAWS I didn't know to fix the problem.



 So, here's a couple questions:



 1.   What is the shortcut to re-orientate or rotate the screen?

 2.   Is there any audio cue that can be assigned to indicate the
 screen
 has rotated?

 Not sure what the shortcut key is that rotates the screen but it must be
 similar or adjacent to one that I use since this seems to happen to me
 reasonably frequently.



 Thanks.



 -- next part --
 An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
 URL:

http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201504
25/cb8080b7/attachment.html
 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: a problem I'm having

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Yes, JAWS is becoming a crashing bore.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Michael Mote via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 08:45 AM
Subject: RE: a problem I'm having


If you're using the latest version of JAWS, that's probably due to the fact
that JAWS stops working, and then restarts itself.  It happens to me all the
time.  I understand the reasoning behind it, but you still don't have speech
during that minute or so.  You're wondering if your computer has frozen or
what's going on.  FS built that into JAWS 15 and 16.  In 15, you can control
when JAWS restarts.  In version 16, it restarts for you.



-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Curt Taubert
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 10:07 AM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Curt Taubert
Subject: a problem I'm having

When I play a game that requires jaws, I notice that every once in a while
jaws will stop talking for sometimes a minute.  Then it'll start back up
again.
-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL:
http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201504
24/b4086ddf/attachment.html
___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Jaws question

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Ed, You are correct. My great mind was off somewhere else when I wrote 
that.
Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Ed Marquette via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Ed Marquette marquette...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 11:19 PM
Subject: RE: Jaws question


OK.
I was about to say that I thought the expression was, Great minds think 
alike! SMILE
I too used the technique of employing control plus alt and a top row number 
key to correspond with the jaws version.  I quit when I realized that 
combination conflicted with Microsoft Word's shortcut for applying headings.
Control plus alt plus 1 applies heading 1; control plus alt plus 2 applies 
heading 2; and so on.  I know I can change these keys, but have been too 
lazy to do so.


-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 12:28 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kimsan
Subject: RE: Jaws question

Follower!

Just kidding, I've done the same since the day before forever.
-Original Message-
From: JFW [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson 
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 8:40 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Dave Carlson
Subject: Re: Jaws question

Hey Brother, that's exactly what I've been doing since JAWS 9. Like minds 
think alike, as they say.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message -
From: Cristóbal via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Cristóbal crismuno...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 08:34 PM
Subject: RE: Jaws question


I always use the numbers on the top row for my Jaws shortcuts. I.E. JFW 
14=control+alt+4. JFW 15=control+alt+5. JFW 16=control+alt+6 and so on.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Massey 
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 8:13 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Nicole Massey
Subject: RE: Jaws question

Note also that some other programs set up the alt+ctrl+J shortcut, so it's 
wise to hit it while Jaws is working to find out what comes up and if it's 
not Jaws then change that shortcut. One of the Nero programs does this, for 
instance.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal
 Nowicki via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 9:50 PM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: Michal Nowicki
 Subject: RE: Jaws question

 Alt plus Ctrl plus J works only if you previously enable it as a
 shortcut to start JAWS; there actually is no default shortcut to
 launch JAWS, so I'm not surprised you can't find one.  There are,
 however, ways to start JAWS without restarting the computer.  For
 instance, if you have a JAWS desktop icon, you can press Windows M or
 Windows D to go to the desktop and then the letter J to get to the
 JAWS icon.  At that point press Enter to activate the icon.  If you
 have iother icons that begin with the letter J (e.g.  Java), though,
 this may not be the best option, as you will have no speech while you
 attempt to navigate to the JAWS icon.  Therefore, your best bet is
 probably to type JAWS
 from within the start menu and press Enter, at least until you set up
 the Alt plus Ctrl plus J shortcut.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer
 Aberdeen via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 9:16 PM
 To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Jennifer Aberdeen
 Subject: Jaws question

 Hi all,

 I’ve been trying to find the answer to my question in Jaws help, but
 for the life of me, I can’t find the answer.

 How do I turn Jaws back on after turning it off?

 I thought it was alt+control+J, but that doesn’t seem to work.

 I had shut Jaws off so my sighted niece could use my computer without
 any annoyance from Jaws, but the only way I know how to get it back on
 is if I restart my computer.

 Thanks,

 Jen

 ---
 This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
 http://www.avast.com
 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was
 scrubbed...
 URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-
 jdh.com/attachments/20150423/077addac/attachment.html
 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http

Re: Need Help

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Hello,

If no one else responds, you may want to directly contact Freedom Scientific 
supp...@freedomscientific.com or call them  Scientific Technical Support 727 
803-8600

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Tejas Karanje via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Tejas Karanje tejaskara...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 09:26 AM
Subject: Need Help


Hi all,

Greetings. My name is Tejas. Presently, I am working with an MNC in
the recruitment team. As a part of my job, I have to work on the
online recruitment tool called Taleo. The Taleo tool is designed
using the Flex screens. Hence, the JAWS is not compatible with it. Can
anyone throw light on this issue?

I use the JAWS version 12.0.1186 and I use the Internet Explorer 8 to
work on the Taleo. Can anyone of you suggest me the JAWS scripts for
Flex? I will be very grateful to you if you provide any solution for
resolving this issue.

Thanks in advance.

-- 
Thanks and regards,
Tejas V Karanje

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Jaws question

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Hey Brother, that's exactly what I've been doing since JAWS 9. Like minds 
think alike, as they say.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Cristóbal via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Cristóbal crismuno...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 08:34 PM
Subject: RE: Jaws question


I always use the numbers on the top row for my Jaws shortcuts. I.E. JFW 
14=control+alt+4. JFW 15=control+alt+5. JFW 16=control+alt+6 and so on.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Massey 
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 8:13 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Nicole Massey
Subject: RE: Jaws question

Note also that some other programs set up the alt+ctrl+J shortcut, so it's 
wise to hit it while Jaws is working to find out what comes up and if it's 
not Jaws then change that shortcut. One of the Nero programs does this, for 
instance.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal
 Nowicki via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 9:50 PM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: Michal Nowicki
 Subject: RE: Jaws question

 Alt plus Ctrl plus J works only if you previously enable it as a
 shortcut to start JAWS; there actually is no default shortcut to
 launch JAWS, so I'm not surprised you can't find one.  There are,
 however, ways to start JAWS without restarting the computer.  For
 instance, if you have a JAWS desktop icon, you can press Windows M or
 Windows D to go to the desktop and then the letter J to get to the
 JAWS icon.  At that point press Enter to activate the icon.  If you
 have iother icons that begin with the letter J (e.g.  Java), though,
 this may not be the best option, as you will have no speech while you
 attempt to navigate to the JAWS icon.  Therefore, your best bet is 
 probably to type JAWS
 from within the start menu and press Enter, at least until you set up
 the Alt plus Ctrl plus J shortcut.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer
 Aberdeen via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 9:16 PM
 To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Jennifer Aberdeen
 Subject: Jaws question

 Hi all,

 I’ve been trying to find the answer to my question in Jaws help, but
 for the life of me, I can’t find the answer.

 How do I turn Jaws back on after turning it off?

 I thought it was alt+control+J, but that doesn’t seem to work.

 I had shut Jaws off so my sighted niece could use my computer without
 any annoyance from Jaws, but the only way I know how to get it back on
 is if I restart my computer.

 Thanks,

 Jen

 ---
 This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
 http://www.avast.com
 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was
 scrubbed...
 URL: http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-
 jdh.com/attachments/20150423/077addac/attachment.html
 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


 ___
 Jfw mailing list
 Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: ICloud?

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

iCloud is a very lousy interface for JAWS. I have had zero success with it.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Kimsan Song via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 11:18 AM
Subject: ICloud?


Using jfw 16 and ICloud.com when attempting to click any of the
buttons, nothing happens.  I am not even sure if my password is
incorrect as it says nothing. thoughts?

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Simple Web-Based Driving Directions, Please

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Charlie,

Good suggestion - my wife's a member. I didn't know they still did that for 
you.

I also found MyWay.com, which seems to be a much easier interface to input 
two points and get driving directions.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Charles Coe charles...@comcast.net
To: 'Dave Carlson' dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net; 'The Jaws for Windows 
support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 08:54 AM
Subject: RE: Simple Web-Based Driving Directions, Please


Dave,

Have you tried triple A for trip planning?  They have a trip planning
program for all AAA members. Not only do they lay out the map by sections
you also get advise on hotels/motels, sights, gas stations, restaurants, etc
as part of the trip plan.

Charlie



-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 10:09 PM
To: john.falter; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Simple Web-Based Driving Directions, Please

John,

Not sure I have had any success with either Google Maps nor Map Quest.
Cracker Barrel? That seems to be a food store of some kind. What is the URL?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message -
From: john.falter
To: Dave Carlson ; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 09:26 PM
Subject: Re: Simple Web-Based Driving Directions, Please


Hi Dave:
I have used Google maps though I find Mapquest easier these days.
I have also used the Crackerbarrel site to plan trips from PA to GA moving
from one of their outlets to the next.



On 4/4/2015 12:09 AM, Dave Carlson via Jfw wrote:

I'm planning a road trip. I need a simple web site where I can input a
starting city, and ending city, and get a list of turn-by-turn directions
with mileages.

Map Quest really sucks, and most sites I've visited are overloaded with
advertisements, graphics, and confusing alternatives.

any advice?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com







This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus
protection is active.


-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL:
http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201504
03/81c7db87/attachment.html
___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Simple Web-Based Driving Directions, Please

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

I'm planning a road trip. I need a simple web site where I can input a 
starting city, and ending city, and get a list of turn-by-turn directions 
with mileages.

Map Quest really sucks, and most sites I've visited are overloaded with 
advertisements, graphics, and confusing alternatives.

any advice?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Simple Web-Based Driving Directions, Please

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

John,

Not sure I have had any success with either Google Maps nor Map Quest. Cracker 
Barrel? That seems to be a food store of some kind. What is the URL?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: john.falter 
To: Dave Carlson ; The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 09:26 PM
Subject: Re: Simple Web-Based Driving Directions, Please


Hi Dave:
I have used Google maps though I find Mapquest easier these days.
I have also used the Crackerbarrel site to plan trips from PA to GA moving from 
one of their outlets to the next.



On 4/4/2015 12:09 AM, Dave Carlson via Jfw wrote:

I'm planning a road trip. I need a simple web site where I can input a 
starting city, and ending city, and get a list of turn-by-turn directions 
with mileages.

Map Quest really sucks, and most sites I've visited are overloaded with 
advertisements, graphics, and confusing alternatives.

any advice?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com






This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus 
protection is active. 
 

-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150403/81c7db87/attachment.html
___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Adobe jaws

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Lauren,

Not sure what you meant about figures in your message. Can you re-state 
your question?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Lauren Snyder, Ph.D. via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 07:34 AM
Subject: Adobe  jaws





Hi,
I am using Adobe professional and eat reader acrobat with Windows 7 and jaws 
14. I seem to have troubles and those figures when I convert PDF to text. Is 
there anyway to avoid this? Sincerely,

Lauren Snyder, Ph.D.
Sent from my iPhone
___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Having a problem activating jaws

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

There's a form on the web site to request additional activations, or you 
call them during normal business hours.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: John Chan via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: Jaws Mailing List jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 10:30 PM
Subject: Having a problem activating jaws


How do i get tech support to give any more activation keys?I had to reformat 
my computer and reinstall everything.please tell me how can I activate jaws?

Sent from Mac's iPhone
___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Having a problem activating jaws

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

John,

For the future, you might want to consider purchasing the dongle. That will 
eliminate the frustration when you run out of keys and can't get in contact 
with FS.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, and pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: John Chan via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: Jaws Mailing List jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 10:30 PM
Subject: Having a problem activating jaws


How do i get tech support to give any more activation keys?I had to reformat 
my computer and reinstall everything.please tell me how can I activate jaws?

Sent from Mac's iPhone
___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com 


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com

Re: Using NetFlix with Jaws

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Rex,

Thanks very much. I've floundered in the Netflix web site, but your 
directions will give me good guidance.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, Musician, Woodworker, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: Rex via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 08:47 AM
Subject: Using NetFlix with Jaws


Hey all, I wrote this little tutorial to help Jaws users effectively 
navigate NetFlix.

Hope this is helpful to some.

You can access Netflix, start and stop play, move forward and back and use 
the video play controls but it does take a little enginuity.

Let’s say we want to watch House MD.

We log into netflix, click on our profile name and then click on the “search 
link.”

Type in House MD and press enter.
Now you arrow down until you find something that says “graphic House MD.” 
Right below that is a link that says Y Player. If you click that link, the 
playback will start where you last left off. If this is the first time you 
have clicked on a movie or series, it will start with the first episode or 
at the beginning of the movie.

We’ll get to the playback options in a minute. Let’s assume that you want to 
access the list of episodes for a particular series.

Using our House MD example, arrow back up to the area that says “graphic 
House MD.” It may say something a little different on your computer but the 
idea is that you find the “graphic” for the show you’re trying to access.

Now, press home to make sure you’re on the graphic.
route Jaws to PC with insert+[, access the Jaws cursor with insert+p and 
then use insert+8 to leftclick.

This should cause a link to the show to appear further down the page. Arrow 
down through the information and go past “service code” and copyright info. 
You should reach a link to the show. Click that link.

Now you can move around and look at the episodes in the season you’ve 
reached. If this is your first time accessing the show, you’ll be on season 
1. To change seasons arrow down past “recommend to a friend” and you will 
hear season 1. Press enter on the number of the season. This will cause a 
list of seasons to come up. Press enter on the season you want.
Now just find the show you want to listen to and arrow down one time to the 
play link and press enter.

Now, press insert+z to turn virtual PC cursor off. Press the tab key and you 
should hear something like “scrubber ...

press shift+tab to go back and you’ll be in the play options area. Press the 
upp arrow to increase the volume, down arrow to decrease, spacebar to stop 
and start and left and right arrows to move through the show. If you move 
forward or backward, you may need to press the spacebar to start play 
because it will stop when you arrow through the show.

There are some other things you can do in this area. Just explore by tabbing 
through the page. Remember that your virtual cursor is turned off. When you’re 
ready to leave that page, be sure and turn it back on.

This may require a little trial and error on your part but you can quickly 
master the netflix system.

-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150317/ebc51135/attachment.html
___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com


___
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com