RE: Is there any reason to not upgrade to JAWS 17?

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

For all people that is using jaws 17, and would like to be able to activate
or deactivate smart navigation quickly. This script will modify the
default.jcf file every time that you press a keystroke, activating smart
navigation controls, or smart navigation controls and tables, or smart
navigation off.
So just with a keystroke you would be able to switch between all these
choices, instead going to  Startup Wizard.
Here is the script. Remember that you need to add it to the default.jss,
assign a keystroke to the script, and compile the script again. Script
ChangeSmartNavigation ()
Var
Int SmartNavigationStatus,
String Message
Let SmartNavigationStatus=IniReadInteger ("Html", "SmartNavigation", 0,
"default.jcf")
let message=""
if SmartNavigationStatus==0 then
IniWriteInteger ("Html", "SmartNavigation", 1, "default.jcf")
Let message="Smart navigation mode is: controls"
Else
if SmartNavigationStatus==1 then
IniWriteInteger ("Html", "SmartNavigation", 2, "default.jcf")
Let message="smart navigation mode is :Controls and tables"
else
if SmartNavigationStatus==2 then
IniWriteInteger ("Html", "SmartNavigation", 0, "default.jcf")
Let message="smart navigation mode is: off"
EndIf
EndIf
EndIf
Say(message,0)
EndScript






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RE: Is there any reason to not upgrade to JAWS 17?

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

Insert X doesn't make anything in my jaws 17.


-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Negoslav Sabev
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 1:42 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Negoslav Sabev <neg...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Is there any reason to not upgrade to JAWS 17?

Hello, actually great script. But isn't Dysfunctionality already implemented
by pressing insert X?

Negoslav Sabev

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 28, 2015, at 6:09 PM, Pablo Morales via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
wrote:
> 
> For all people that is using jaws 17, and would like to be able to 
> activate or deactivate smart navigation quickly. This script will 
> modify the default.jcf file every time that you press a keystroke, 
> activating smart navigation controls, or smart navigation controls and 
> tables, or smart navigation off.
> So just with a keystroke you would be able to switch between all these 
> choices, instead going to  Startup Wizard.
> Here is the script. Remember that you need to add it to the 
> default.jss, assign a keystroke to the script, and compile the script 
> again. Script ChangeSmartNavigation () Var Int SmartNavigationStatus, 
> String Message Let SmartNavigationStatus=IniReadInteger ("Html", 
> "SmartNavigation", 0,
> "default.jcf")
> let message=""
> if SmartNavigationStatus==0 then
> IniWriteInteger ("Html", "SmartNavigation", 1, "default.jcf") Let 
> message="Smart navigation mode is: controls"
> Else
> if SmartNavigationStatus==1 then
> IniWriteInteger ("Html", "SmartNavigation", 2, "default.jcf") Let 
> message="smart navigation mode is :Controls and tables"
> else
> if SmartNavigationStatus==2 then
> IniWriteInteger ("Html", "SmartNavigation", 0, "default.jcf") Let 
> message="smart navigation mode is: off"
> EndIf
> EndIf
> EndIf
> Say(message,0)
> EndScript
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Is there any reason to not upgrade to JAWS 17?

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

Yes, I have the last update of jaws, but in any computer here this keystroke
is working. Even though I know that the keystroke exist, but jaws says that
can not find the script..

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 6:42 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Adrian Spratt <adr...@adrianspratt.com>
Subject: RE: Is there any reason to not upgrade to JAWS 17?

I believe it came with the initial JAWS 17 version. I also recall Eric
speaking about it on one of the FSCasts.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 6:34 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Alex Stone
Subject: Re: Is there any reason to not upgrade to JAWS 17?

I've just looked at the changes in the latest update to jaws 17, and I don't
see any reference to this.

On 28/11/2015 23:13, David Moore via Jfw wrote:
> Hi all,
> For insert + X to turn on and off smart navigation on web pages, you 
> must have the newest update of JAWS 17 that came out a week or so ago.
> Just wanted you to know that. Have a great one.
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Pablo Morales via Jfw
> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 3:10 PM
> To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
> Cc: Pablo Morales
> Subject: RE: Is there any reason to not upgrade to JAWS 17?
>
> Insert X doesn't make anything in my jaws 17.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Negoslav 
> Sabev via Jfw
> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 1:42 PM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
> Cc: Negoslav Sabev <neg...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Is there any reason to not upgrade to JAWS 17?
>
> Hello, actually great script. But isn't Dysfunctionality already 
> implemented by pressing insert X?
>
> Negoslav Sabev
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 28, 2015, at 6:09 PM, Pablo Morales via Jfw 
>> <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> For all people that is using jaws 17, and would like to be able to 
>> activate or deactivate smart navigation quickly. This script will 
>> modify the default.jcf file every time that you press a keystroke, 
>> activating smart navigation controls, or smart navigation controls 
>> and tables, or smart navigation off.
>> So just with a keystroke you would be able to switch between all 
>> these choices, instead going to  Startup Wizard.
>> Here is the script. Remember that you need to add it to the 
>> default.jss, assign a keystroke to the script, and compile the script 
>> again. Script ChangeSmartNavigation () Var Int SmartNavigationStatus, 
>> String Message Let SmartNavigationStatus=IniReadInteger ("Html", 
>> "SmartNavigation", 0,
>> "default.jcf")
>> let message=""
>> if SmartNavigationStatus==0 then
>> IniWriteInteger ("Html", "SmartNavigation", 1, "default.jcf") Let 
>> message="Smart navigation mode is: controls"
>> Else
>> if SmartNavigationStatus==1 then
>> IniWriteInteger ("Html", "SmartNavigation", 2, "default.jcf") Let 
>> message="smart navigation mode is :Controls and tables"
>> else
>> if SmartNavigationStatus==2 then
>> IniWriteInteger ("Html", "SmartNavigation", 0, "default.jcf") Let 
>> message="smart navigation mode is: off"
>> EndIf
>> EndIf
>> EndIf
>> Say(message,0)
>> EndScript
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Outlook 2013, different behavior in different computers

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

Good morning all,

I  am now using office 2013 pro. I have this software installed in 4
different computers. Two at home, and 2 in my work., plus a little tablet.
Well, for some reason, my outlook 2013 pro, is working in some areas
different than in the other computers. For example, when we press control+E,
if we want to search for  emails that contains a string, then we are able to
type the string, and outlook should put in a list all emails that contains
that string. Well, In this part I get a little bit lost with outlook 2013,
because before we just pressed F6, and the pc cursor moved to the list of
results. Now it doesn't work. No at least in any computer where I tried
outlook 2013 or outlook 2016.

Well, here is where I see that outlook works different in each computer. If
I want to get to the list of results, I need to do different things, but
those things doesn't work in every computer. Sometimes I also notice that if
something was working well yesterday, today the steps that I took yesterday
to get to the list of results, doesn't work anymore.

I notice some kind of instability or inconsistence in the way how outlook
works, I am talking about outlook 2013 and  outlook 2016. Some times in my
outlook appears things that yesterday weren't there, and tomorrow will
disappear again. I  can't trust in my outlook, because every day something
change, or something appear, or just disappear. It is not reliable .What do
I am doing wrong, what is the correct configuration of outlook to make it
work more stable or more in a standard way?

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RE: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

Writing to where?
I need merge utility, I can't not be ,re writing all commands or
configurations every time, it is time consuming.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hamilton
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2015 1:23 PM
To: 'Tom Behler'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Jim Hamilton
Subject: RE: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

Dr.  Tom Behler:

Thanks.  Did you follow up by writing to the "suggestions" link in the body
of that generic response?  I think that this is where the power-to-change
exists within FS.

"Power to the people!"

Jim H

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From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombeh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 4:07 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
Subject: RE: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

Jim and all:

I sent my letter of discontent in early this morning, and got the generic
response.

Hopefully others will do the same.

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hamilton
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 3:37 PM
To: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Jim Hamilton
Subject: RE: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

Well, I must say that it is most gratifying to see that lots of other JAWS
users are upset with losing the Merge Utility!  I hate to be the only one
screaming in the wilderness.  I have already used the below link to
complain, and received the typical FS reply that someone would be in touch.
I agree that the more people who let FS know about their feelings on this,
and any other, matter, makes a lot of sense.  It is the noisy wheel that
gets greased!  Let's keep those cards and letters coming in!

Jim H

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From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. [mailto:kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu]
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 11:31 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
Subject: RE: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

What's the traffic volume like on the JAWS-Users group?

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 11:41 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B
Subject: Re: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

Hi Adrian,

Believe me, I would like to rollover & stick at least 1 of my 4 legs up 1 of
someone's ass at Freedom Scientific but, it seems like, most of the time
anyways, they don't give a rats ass about what we the consumer think & go on
their merry way!  I do agree that if people complained in more volume it
might make more of an impact but, if these complaints fall upon deaf ears,
so to speak, complaining won't change anything either, just as it hasn't
changed crap like this in, forever, with FS.  I can tell you 1 way of making
1 of the most important people within Fs, Eric Damry, aware of how you feel,
& that is to join another email list, Jaws-Users.  Eric Damry is a member of
this list & is a somewhat frequent poster depending on the topic, to the
list.  Here is the necessary link to join if interested.

To join:

jaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com

Click on the link above, put subscribe in the subject line, leave the
message body empty, & send.  You'll receive a confirmation email, reply to
it & you should be good to go.

It's not a real high traffic list.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers, next year anyways!

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From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 9:09 PM
Subject: RE: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained


Mike,

Understood. The temptation to roll over and stick my four legs up in the air

is sometimes strong, but over time I've found that persistence and volume
can prevail. By persistence, I mean one person demanding a fix. By volume, I

mean the more of us who complain, the more pressure FS will be under to fix
it and ensure this kind of fiasco doesn't recur.

I do recall many versions ago that the merge utility cause havoc from one
version to the next. The people at FS remember that event. I also know that
persistence doesn't always work. I've had my own frustrations with FS over
time.

But the merge utility was basic to the transition from version to version,
and most of us JAWS users depended on it. It's bad enough that we must pay
for a SMA every two versions, which FS has ensured means every two years,
but now to go through such inconvenience as well?

As for the lister who proposed a petition, let him produce one. Otherwise,
it's simple enough to write to FS and let our voices be heard. Again, the
address is

supp...@freedomscientific.com

I admit I don't like being a rabble-rouser, but this really is annoying.
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excel email list

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

Hi all,

I am looking for an email list of excel and access users, if it is for jaws
or nvda users would be great, but if it is not, is ok. Any body know any
excel or access email list?

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more about gestures and scripts

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

HI guys,

Yesterday I sent a question about if there is a way to associate scripts
with gestures. Well, someone from another email  list helped me with this
matter. In the keyboard manager, in actions, is a item that says create
gestures. There is where you can associate a script with a gesture. Jaws
will tell you if that gesture that you want, is already associated with a
default gesture or for a gesture for a specific app.

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jaws customer scripts and touch screen gestures.

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

Good morning all,

I have written some scripts, those scripts are associated with some
keystrokes.

There is a way to associate those scripts to gestures?

For example I have a script that with one keystroke switch the language
between English/Spanish/French. Through scripting is a way to associate a
gesture or the convention of more gestures to a script written by the users?

 

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jesters using jaws 16 and jaws 17

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

Hi all,

I am working very hard, just trying to understand better how use the jesters
with jaws 16 and jaws 17 in 2 different tablets. Both tablets are Microsoft
surface pro 3, and one is using windows 8.1 professional, and the other is
running windows 10 professional also.

I read the FS manuals about using touch screen with jaws, but I need to make
sure that the following situation is a jaws problem, or maybe something else
that I don't know.

On the tablets, when we are starting or restarting the tablets, the first
screen that will appear is the lock screen. Jaws is going to find here the
time, battery and the warning saying that screen locked.

To go to the logon screen, we need to flick up 3  fingers. Jaws is going to
say, log on. But here some times for some reason, if I flick left or right
to find the text box where I should type my password, Jaws reads the
controls, buttons, links, and the text box, but we are no able to place the
pc cursor on any control. I mean, if I flick until the password text box,
and I do a double 1 finger tab, for some reason the virtual keyboard  will
not show. Ok, we  are able to open the virtual keyboard sliding 3 fingers up
and down, but looks like the pc cursor is not on the text box, because
sliding 3 fingers up and down, the virtual keyboard doesn't open, and looks
according with my wife, that jaws is reading things that doesn't appear on
the screen. It means for me that jaws is no moving the screen up to the
login screen, or it is how it looks.

How do you using the touch jesters are able to login in your tablets?

Thanks

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RE: JAWS and Outlook 2013 issue.

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

I got the same problems that you guys are reporting. Moreover working on
Outlook, if I open and email with attachments,  when I press shift tab to go
to the attachments, and I press the application key, sometimes jaws is not
able to read the context menu, and Outlook stop working, then I need to go
to task manager and shutdown outlook manually. 
-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Mote
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 9:56 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
Cc: Michael Mote 
Subject: RE: JAWS and Outlook 2013 issue.

Ted, it's frozen, and I cannot close Outlook.  I'm running Windows 7 64 bit,
with JAWS 17.  I'm running Office 2013.  


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 8:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) 
Subject: RE: JAWS and Outlook 2013 issue.

Can you close Outlook when you see that message, or are you frozen?  Also,
what is your OS?

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via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 8:57 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michael Mote
Subject: JAWS and Outlook 2013 issue.

Hi folks!  I've been dealing with this issue for quite a while now, and
cannot seem to get any relief.  I'm having trouble with JAWS and Outlook
2013, particularly after I have been using it for a couple of hours.  JAWS
will start to perform very sluggishly, and even sometimes, I get a message
saying that Outlook is not responding.  It's really annoying.  Most of the
time, I end up restarting my machine.  Does anyone else have this problem?
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RE: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

Thanks David, Yes I read before this point about control left or gith arrow,
it is really helpful, I didn't know this keystrokes to navigate by groups.
Would be nice if when press tab inside a group, jaws go back to the first
item in that group instead jump  to the other group. Any way, it is very
helpful, thanks David.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of David Bailes
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 3:29 AM
To: Jfw 
Cc: David Bailes 
Subject: Re: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Hi Pablo,
when using the standard windows keystrokes to navigate the ribbon in office
2010 or later, you can use the keystrokes ctrl+left/right arrow to move
between the groups of controls on the active tab - this can greatly reduce
the number of tabs that have to be pressed.

The following guide to file explorer in windows 8.1 has a section on the
ribbon. There are some minor differences between the ribbon in file explorer
and office, but no major ones.
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/File-Explorer-8p1-Guide.html

David.

original message:
Using the virtual ribbon, there is a way to know  what are the keystrokes
associated with each item in the ribbons? 

Use the ribbons helps a lot to understand the structure of the ribbons, with
the virtual ribbon off, is time consuming and is very easy to get lost
navigating with the tab key only. But with the virtual ribbons on,  the
keystrokes doesn't work, and sometimes I don't know what is worse, if the
virtual ribbons on or off. But if I need to get to a place in the ribbon, I
have no way to learn the keystrokes, only deactivating the virtual ribbons
and pressing tab many many times, and probably getting lost. 

So I see both ways very inconvenient. 

Is there a way to get the keystrokes and at the same time keeping the logic
structure of the ribbons,? 

I am trying to teach people to use MS word, and excel, but the ribbons is
very hard to make them understand the structure of each ribbons, but the
ribbon as unique tool using these programs is not going to be so efficient
in the future either. 



So there is a way to get the keystrokes when we are navigating through the
virtual ribbons, and like this once we know where and what is the structure
of the ribbons, just use the keystrokes associated with each item on the
ribbons? 

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Accessible education university in US

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

Hi all,

I am looking for a university where I can do online classes for Human
Resources Business administration and management in the US . I have been in
contact by phone with several universities but when I ask them about the
accessibility on their web sites, or accessibility in the books that I need
to buy for each class, then their answers ends. I have been in contact with
17 different universities online, and all of them said that the
accessibility department will call me back, but I have been waiting more
than one year for those calls.

Guys, are you studying in Universities online?

Does anybody know a university, where their online classes are accessible?

And also the books are accessible?

My wife is low vision, and she had a lot of accessibility problems in the
university where she was studying . I am totally blind, and I have no way to
study if I found a platform not accessible, or books not accessible either.

Does anybody here know system better, what I can do if I need to continue my
education after I lost my vision?

What are the accessible resources today?

Thanks for all,

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RE: Accessible education university in US

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

Yes, I had the same experience.


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Drew
Hunthausen via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 7:29 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Drew Hunthausen <dhunthau...@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Accessible education university in US

Also, when you call a university, ask to be connected with the disabled
students survices (DSS) department. You will probably have better luck this
way even if yu don't reach anyone and have to leave a message. In my
experience, leaving a message or e-mail to a general number does not get a
response because the person that reads or listen to them doesn't have any
idea about disabled student accessibility. Good luck

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Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 3:49 PM
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Cc: Greg Nickel; jaws-users-l...@jaws-users.com; blindt...@groups.io
Subject: RE: Accessible education university in US

Pablo.

Each university has a specific department that coordinates all ADA related
issues between faculty, staff and student body.  You need to ask for the
contact information of this specific department and engage of them directly.
Certainly, as you have experienced, if you don't take the initiative no one
else will.  The lesson to be learned here is not to wait for anyone to call
you back rather, follow up with them based on a time line that you deem
acceptable.

Best of success... 






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Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Accessible education university in US

Hi all,

I am looking for a university where I can do online classes for Human
Resources Business administration and management in the US . I have been in
contact by phone with several universities but when I ask them about the
accessibility on their web sites, or accessibility in the books that I need
to buy for each class, then their answers ends. I have been in contact with
17 different universities online, and all of them said that the
accessibility department will call me back, but I have been waiting more
than one year for those calls.

Guys, are you studying in Universities online?

Does anybody know a university, where their online classes are accessible?

And also the books are accessible?

My wife is low vision, and she had a lot of accessibility problems in the
university where she was studying . I am totally blind, and I have no way to
study if I found a platform not accessible, or books not accessible either.

Does anybody here know system better, what I can do if I need to continue my
education after I lost my vision?

What are the accessible resources today?

Thanks for all,

P

 

 

 

 

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keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

Using the virtual ribbon, there is a way to know  what are the keystrokes
associated with each item in the ribbons?

Use the ribbons helps a lot to understand the structure of the ribbons, with
the virtual ribbon off, is time consuming and is very easy to get lost
navigating with the tab key only. But with the virtual ribbons on,  the
keystrokes doesn't work, and sometimes I don't know what is worse, if the
virtual ribbons on or off. But if I need to get to a place in the ribbon, I
have no way to learn the keystrokes, only deactivating the virtual ribbons
and pressing tab many many times, and probably getting lost.

So I see both ways very inconvenient.

Is there a way to get the keystrokes and at the same time keeping the logic
structure of the ribbons,?

I am trying to teach people to use MS word, and excel, but the ribbons is
very hard to make them understand the structure of each ribbons, but the
ribbon as unique tool using these programs is not going to be so efficient
in the future either.

 

So there is a way to get the keystrokes when we are navigating through the
virtual ribbons, and like this once we know where and what is the structure
of the ribbons, just use the keystrokes associated with each item on the
ribbons?

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accessible router

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

Hi all,

I have a Linksys a6500 at home, it is an smart wifi router,and I am getting
some problems with the web interface of this router. I need a good routher
that allows to connect at least 15 wifi devices multi tasking, , dual band,
and with an UI accessible. It is the most important thing for me, I am not
able to modify the settings in my routehr due to the accessibility problems.

Any advice?

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having a license, jaws require to restart

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

Hi all,

I don't know for what reason, it is happening in a desktop running windows
10 and jaws 16 64bits. Some times when I start the computer, I mean been
off, the computer start, and jaws that I need to restart because the 40 min
expired.. I have the license for this jaws, and after I restart the
computer, looks like jaws is reading the license, because the problem stop.

What could be happening here, is annoying need to restart the computer every
time that I start the computer.

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RE: JAWS 17 and Amazon

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

Using jaws 16, Well, in amazon I always have found problems like this.


-Original Message-
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via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 4:48 PM
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Cc: Gennie Eachus
Subject: JAWS 17 and Amazon

Hi,

 

Tried to buy a Kindle book from Amazon today. Could not find buy button. Had
to return to JAWS16 in order to buy the book. Never had problem buying books
before.

 

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Accessibility in office 2013

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

Hi all,

For the last three months, I have been investigating the accessibility of
office 2013 and office 365 in several devices. The result of  this
investigation is that the accessibility of office 365 is not very stable .
For example, If I have one accessibility problem in one computer, maybe in
the next computer that problem doesn't exist, but in this other computer I
will find a problem that is not in the first computer. What is creating
these kinds of problems?

I really don't understand what is going on here, but for example if I try to
use the signature dialog in outlook 365, in one computer it is not
accessible, and in the second it is a little bit more accessible, but you
can notice that there is something wrong on that dialog. In the third
computer the spelling dialog  in word is not accessible, but in the fourth
computer the dialog is fully accessible. In outlook some times in the
calendar, in the day view, jaws reads  the schedules, but other times jaws
doesn't say anything. I tried today with FS on the phone, to see what was
the problem, and they asked me to try using narrator. We noticed that with
narrator it wasn't possible to read the schedules. I have been talking to FS
several times in the last 4 days, and they say that the spelling dialog in
word 2013 is not accessible, and there is nothing  that they can do about
this problem. They also say that the signature dialog in Outlook is not
accessible, but I have a a laptop here in my home, where the dialog on
office 2013 is 90% accessible, when in the other computers is around 10%
accessible.

Why does the accessibility change so much when I have been testing office on
computers with the same brand and model, and on computers  with good
hardware?

Can anybody give me a little bit of light in this issue?

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RE: JAWS on a Microsoft Surface Pro

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

It works perfectly.
I am using jaws not on a surface pro 3, I feel it so big, and I need it to
be able to move around in my work, so a device with 13 inches of frame is a
little bit uncomfortable. But I am using a surface pro 2, it is 10 inches
wide, smaller, and works better than my desktop.


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Jfw
Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2015 9:33 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Tom Corboy
Subject: JAWS on a Microsoft Surface Pro

I just bought JAWS for the first time and someone suggested using it on a
Microsoft Surface Pro 3. Has anyone done this? Does JAWS work as well and as
quickly as it does on a laptop? Thanks,
Tom

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Use of virtual ribbons and keyboard manager

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

I read the instructions to switch the echo level, and those instructions
were very good.
Now I am trying to use a keystroke to switch the use of virtual  ribbons,
but when I look for use of virtual ribbons or something like that, it
doesn't appear in the default list. There is a way to switch the virtual
ribbons on or off through a keystroke?
Maybe through a script, but I have no idea what is the function to switch
the virtual ribbon function on/off.
Thanks for any help.



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RE: Use of virtual ribbons and keyboard manager

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

Hi Carolyn,
Yes, but I was looking something quicly, and easyer. The number of steps to
get to the ribbon option are around 3, when the options are just 2, yes or
no. Would be easyer to switch this binary value with just a keystroke
instead 3.
Because of that I was thinking that probably through a script or through the
keyboard manager fits the possibility to do it.
Thanks


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 12:34 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: Use of virtual ribbons and keyboard manager



-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 3:30 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: Use of virtual ribbons and keyboard manager

Pablo, if you'll go Insert V for JAWS Verbosity. Arrow way down past to User
Beginning or Intermediate or Advanced, right or not far after that, you'll
come to Virtual Ribbon. You can check or uncheck it, whichever you prefer.

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Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: Use of virtual ribbons and keyboard manager

Pablo, if you'll go Insert V for JAWS Verbosity. Arrow way down past to User
Beginning or Intermediate or Advanced, right or not far after that, you'll
come to Virtual Ribbon. You can check or uncheck it, whichever you prefer.
windows-10-and-j...@yahoogroups.co.in

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Cc: Pablo Morales <pablocmd2...@gmail.com>
Subject: Use of virtual ribbons and keyboard manager

I read the instructions to switch the echo level, and those instructions
were very good.
Now I am trying to use a keystroke to switch the use of virtual  ribbons,
but when I look for use of virtual ribbons or something like that, it
doesn't appear in the default list. There is a way to switch the virtual
ribbons on or off through a keystroke?
Maybe through a script, but I have no idea what is the function to switch
the virtual ribbon function on/off.
Thanks for any help.



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RE: FS Podcast Jaws17 New Features, Part 1

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

I read yesterday that just 14% of the windows 10 users are using Eddge

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
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Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 12:44 PM
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Subject: Re: FS Podcast Jaws17 New Features, Part 1

I certainly hope part 2 is about making Windows 10 and Edge more 
accessible than just adding new features.

On 9/3/2015 3:31 PM, Lisle, Ted  (CHFS DMS) via Jfw wrote:
> Next month should be a safe bet.
>
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> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 3:09 PM
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> Subject: FS Podcast Jaws17 New Features, Part 1
>
> Howdy All,
>
> You can download this podcast by clicking on the link below.  This is part
1
> of 2, & I don't know when part 2 will be published.
>
>
>
http://podcast.freedomscientific.com/FSCast/episodes/FSCast113-JAWS_17_part1
.mp3
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> Published: Wed, 02 Sep 2015 13:15:00 GMT
> Take care.
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RE: Surface Pro

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

Yes, on a surface pro jaws works fine.


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 8:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Les Kriegler
Subject: RE: Surface Pro

I'm running a Surface Pro.  All Jaws functions that I use are working as
expected.  Windows crashes on occasion, but the fact that Jaws 16 re-starts
is a major step forward when this occurs.  I have had to do a few Jaws
repairs and had some other issues with Office 365, but overall, I'm very
pleased with the Surface.  I find that a Bluetooth keyboard is preferable
over using the surface's keyboard cover.  Howevewr, when I need to charge
the keyboard, the cover is better than not having a keyboard to use.

Les

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Denning via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 7:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Marianne Denning 
Subject: Surface Pro

Is anyone running JAWS using a Surface Pro?  If so, do all JAWS
functions work well?  What is your overall impression?

-- 
Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053

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RE: Shift + F10, alternative

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

Hi Mike,
In windows explorer, if you are focused on a file and you press application
key or shift + f10, the menu is different than if you press shift +
application key. But my question is, if you don't have the application key,
how can you get the same menu as when you press shift + application key?
Thanks

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Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 3:04 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: Shift + F10, alternative

Hi Pablo,

Using IE10, if I arrow to a link  invoke either, shift + F10, shift +
application key, or the application key only, I will get 1 list of results
in the context menu, but if I tab to a link  use any of the previous
mentioned keystrokes, I will get a different list of results in the context
menu.
Take care.
Mike
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Cc: Pablo Morales
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 11:46 AM
Subject: Shift + F10, alternative


Hi all,
Some laptops, and some Bluetooth keyboards don't have the application key. I
understand that shift + F10 is the same thing as the application key. But
when we press shift + application key, we have different options than when
we press just application key. In the case that someone  is using a keyboard
without an application key, what is the
Thankskeystroke to replicate the function of shift application key?



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Shift + F10, alternative

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

Hi all,
Some laptops, and some Bluetooth keyboards don't have the application key. I
understand that shift + F10 is the same thing as the application key. But
when we press shift + application key, we have different options than when
we press just application key. In the case that someone  is using a keyboard
without an application key, what is the 
Thankskeystroke to replicate the function of shift application key?



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RE: JAWS and Windows 10 issue

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

Hmmm, if the video driver is the problem. How can we know which is the
better video driver?
Or how can we know which video driver we should install in our computers?


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Mote
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 7:07 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michael Mote
Subject: RE: JAWS and Windows 10 issue

I'm going to make an educated guess that it may have to do with the types of
video drivers that are installed in the different computers.  I have
experienced JAWS not identifying the password field at start-up.  It never
reads that to me correctly either.  So far, not a big fan of Windows 10.
I'm hopeful it will get better.  I seem to remember Windows 8 starting out
like this too.



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Cc: Pablo Morales pablocmd2...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: JAWS and Windows 10 issue

Hi Mike,

Well, I am not getting the same problem that you are getting  with your jaws
cursor. Even though, I have found other problems, but curiously the problems
are different in 4 different computers. Would be interesting to know why
jaws is working differently in 4 different computers, when all windows 10
installation are new, and all jaws installation are new also. A couple of
hours ago, I installed jwindows 10 in a new computer, Lenovo desktop, and
jaws has been working very good. I am noticing a problem when I press alt
tab when I want to go to other window, but it doesn't happen always. I am
still noticing that when the computer is in the log in window, jaws is not
able to read the text field where we should type the password. If I press
tab, nothing happen, if I try to use insert tab to read where is the Pc
cursor, nothing happen. I have to press alt tab two times to make jaws catch
the control where is the password field.
I really don't understand why all these problems are different in each
computer.
P
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via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 10:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michael Mote
Subject: JAWS and Windows 10 issue

Hi folks!  Not sure if this is a JAWS thing or not, but it seems like I
cannot use my JAWS cursor to read things in Windows 10.  Is there some
setting that I need to adjust for this to happen?  I have really enjoyed the
helpful information that has been passed along by those of you who are
running Windows 10.  Thanks a lot for the feedback!

 

 

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RE: JAWS and Windows 10 issue

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

Hi Mike,

Well, I am not getting the same problem that you are getting  with your jaws
cursor. Even though, I have found other problems, but curiously the problems
are different in 4 different computers. Would be interesting to know why
jaws is working differently in 4 different computers, when all windows 10
installation are new, and all jaws installation are new also. A couple of
hours ago, I installed jwindows 10 in a new computer, Lenovo desktop, and
jaws has been working very good. I am noticing a problem when I press alt
tab when I want to go to other window, but it doesn't happen always. I am
still noticing that when the computer is in the log in window, jaws is not
able to read the text field where we should type the password. If I press
tab, nothing happen, if I try to use insert tab to read where is the Pc
cursor, nothing happen. I have to press alt tab two times to make jaws catch
the control where is the password field.
I really don't understand why all these problems are different in each
computer.
P
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via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 10:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michael Mote
Subject: JAWS and Windows 10 issue

Hi folks!  Not sure if this is a JAWS thing or not, but it seems like I
cannot use my JAWS cursor to read things in Windows 10.  Is there some
setting that I need to adjust for this to happen?  I have really enjoyed the
helpful information that has been passed along by those of you who are
running Windows 10.  Thanks a lot for the feedback!

 

 

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RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

Well guys,
I have tried windows 10 and jaws 16 in 3 different computers. One on a old
computer from the Precambrian, the second a Dell i7, with 8GB ram, and the
third a Lenovo desktop with an i7 with 8 GB of ram also.
I have found several problems with jaws. Some times when I press insert f10,
to get  the list of windows opened, jaws reads information no updated, other
times jaws reads things that were on the screen before, like dialogs or
messages, but those dialogs or messages are already close when it happen.
Some times on the log in screen, jaws reads default window, and nothing
else, if I press insert tab, jaws reads again, default window, but I have no
way to know where is the Pc cursor. I have to press tab several times until
jaws catch the Pc cursor again. Sometimes alt tab doesn't work very well,
and I have repaired jaws in all these computers.
Conclusion, I uninstalled windows 10 in my all 3 computers, and I will not
try to install windows 10 again, until news releases of windows or jaws
appear.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hamilton
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:17 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Jim Hamilton
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Dave:

You have more patience than I.  If JAWS does not return within a minute or
so, I do a (you should excuse the expression) blind shutdown of JAWS, go to
the DESKTOP, where I have already placed the focus, and reopened JAWS.  Mind
you, if a good pair of eyes is ready/willing/able, not to mention actually
present, I am not shy about asking for help in case something is going on -
un related to JAWS.

However, when no eyes are around, it feels like the world has been shut
off; so, I know what you mean by waiting for nothing.  I usually try to find
something else to do.

Jim H

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Jim,

Pretty much hit-or-miss. It would depend on the Operating System + Video
Device Driver + JAWS Version + Program Version + Unknown Gremlins.

Very hard to duplicate symptoms with so many variables. I do know that JAWS
16 tendency to close and reopen without any warning is a bit of a thorn in
my side. There are times when it won't come back at all, and I'm sitting
there with my hands poised, waiting for nothing.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

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To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Jim Hamilton jim.hamil...@rogers.com
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:43 AM
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


Dave:

Very enlightening!  For some reason, I never got around to, nor frankly
considered, uninstalling previous versions of JAWS, and this may have proven
to be far-sighted after all.  I think that I may adopt your 3 most-recent
version strategy myself.  However, once someone moves to Windows 10,
previous JAWS versions will not work - from what I gather.

However, it may be a while before I upgrade to Windows 10.  So, for now, are
there some applications that typically misbehave with the latest JAWS
offering?  Or, as with many things, it is pretty much a hit or miss
situation?

Thanks.

Jim H

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via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:02 PM
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Cc: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Jim,

As to previous versions -- simply because the current install is running
fine, it does not mean that it will run so with all applications. I
occasionally run JAWS 15 when JAWS 16 is misbehaving in a particular
program. I delete versions older than 3 major revisions back, just to keep
things simpler. And I still have all the executables for last revisions of
all major versions going back to 3.5. Of course that's just my
anal-retentive nature at work, having sufficient hard disk space to justify
that level of insanity.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

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From: Jim Hamilton via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Jim Hamilton jim.hamil...@rogers.com
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 09:30 AM
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


Don't mean to be smart; but, why would you want to use previous versions
of JAWS if you have the latest version running successfully.  I'm sure that
there is a really good reason for it!  :)  :)

Jim H

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RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

Russell, yes you are right. I installed on a old computer and it didn't work
well with any program, it took for ever to open outlook, or just to restart,
jaws wasn't able to read the start menu, and some times crashed. Now I have
on a ACER laptop windows 10 installed, and it is working perfectly. Now I am
installing windows 10 on a dell desktop with an i7 processor, and I will see
how it works, but I believe that the hardware too old, could be a problem on
windows 10, like in whatever operating system or software.



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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 1:04 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Hi Adrian,

I think it's more the age of the computer being updated than whether it's
Windows 7 or 8.1... I have an old Lenovo laptop... 10 years old, and I don't
think I'd like to update it to Windows 10... I had Windows 7 on it and
updated it to Windows 8.1 and was sorry because it ran so slow with Windows
8.1. 

If you have a relatively new laptop or desktop running Windows 7 I wouldn't
hesitate updating to Windows 10, if you're so inclined.

Cheers,

Russell
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 9:03 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Russell,

To me, you make an argument for Win7 users to stay with Win7 but for Win8
and Win8.1 users maybe to think about it. Nothing I've read suggests any
immediate gains for Win7 users and several negatives. In time, upgrading to
Win10 will be unavoidable.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:20 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Hi Brad,

I purchased a new laptop last November, a Lenovo Yoga Pro 2 running Windows
8.1. While I did get accustomed to Windows 8.1, I wasn't crazy about it. I
updated to Windows 10, and like the fact that the start menu is back. When I
press the Windows key, I am placed in a search field, similar to Windows 7.
If I down arrow, I am placed in a list of my 6 most used programs, which is
really convenient. I am finding Cortana to work quite well... when she isn't
able to answer my query, she opens up a search page in Bing... wish the
search results could be switched to Google, but at least for now, Bing is
the only choice.

I am looking forward to trying Edge once Jaws support is available for it.

I think whether or not to update to Windows 10 is a very personal choice,
and, I also feel that we shouldn't be advised not to update just because we
use Jaws. Having said that though, I don't think I would have updated if my
laptop wasn't fairly new.

I've been reading the various forums and many people are experiencing
troubles with the Windows 10 update, not only users of assistive technology,
so, as I say, the choice to update is a personal one.

For me, I'm glad I updated, but we'll see how things go once Microsoft
starts pushing out those updates! Ha ha.

Like you say, fun, fun, fun! :)

Russell
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad Martin
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 8:04 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Brad Martin b...@formyfriends.org
Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Hi,

I've been following all this Windows 10 stuff with great interest, and I
just have a question (with a lot of background first):

So FS says you shouldn't use Edge, you should use Firefox or IE. (I'm doing
that now in Windows 7.) You can't use the built in mail program; you should
use something like Thunderbird or Outlook. (I'm doing that now in Windows
7.) And you should use Adobe Reader for PDF documents. 
(I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) Reviews I've read all seem to indicate
that Cortana is iffy at best.

So why should I upgrade again? I'm not being smart; I'd really like to know
if I'm going to gain anything other than having a new operating system that
I have to use in the same old ways. The only benefit I can see is that
Windows 10 will be supported beyond January of 2020, where Windows 7 will
not. Am I overlooking some wonderful new feature that should cause me to
want to hurry and upgrade? Or does the old saying, If it ain't broke, don't
fix it, apply here? I'd really honestly like to know if JAWS users in
particular are finding anything beneficial in the upgrade, or if it's just
something fun to do to your functioning computer to see if it will still
function.

P.S. Anybody on this list from Louisiana and 

RE: Installation of Windows 10

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

I have the same problem, I repaired jaws several times, but I can't read the
start menu, some times jaws says cortana, other timesjaws says start, but
anything else jaws is able to read. I know that my computer is a little bit
old, it has quad core,  that I bought in 2008. Originally this computer came
with windows vista, and I bought windows 7, and now I am trying to with
windows 10. Looks like this computer is working fine,  some times works a
little bit slow, but with jaws I can't read anything in the start menu, no
matter if I repair jaws.
My question is, it could be a hardware problem due to the age of this
computer?

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 4:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Joseph Lee
Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,
Yes, and there are other issues that should be fixed soon, some of which are
issues with somewhat fundamental Windows 10 features, which makes me wonder
if FS came out with a half-baked solution last month (I hope FS is doing
something these days to fix them and to support Edge).
Cheers,
Joseph
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From: Nermin via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Date sent:
Sat, 8 Aug 2015 22:02:15 +0200
Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

Hi all,

I upgraded my Win 8.1 to 10, but JAWS refuses to announce the start menu.
It will sometimes say Cortana, but other than that it stays pretty silent.
I've already uninstalled JAWS completely, restarted and reinstalled JAWS,
but the problem still persists.

Anyone ran into that on their path to Windows 10?
I am using a netbook with Win 10 32 bit on it, a Medion 98700.

Regards,
Nermin


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removing jaws license

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

Hi all guys,

I think that my old computer, doesn't like windows 10 so much, and it is
working very slow, opening programs like Outlook 2007, it takes forever to
open. So I am thinking that probably will be healthy for my old computer go
back to windows 7. I have been reading on internet, that If I have the media
of windows 7, I just need to reinstall windows 7 on my computer like
formatting  the whole hard drive. But I am trying to keep my jaws
authorization  key, and I read that if I uninstall  the license on my older
computer, I will not add this key in the fs server, so I will need to call
FS and ask them another key. It is true?
It doesn't make any sense, but  can someone confirm that if I uninstall the
license in my computer, I will not be able to use it again, unless I call FS
and ask them for another key?
Thanks


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RE: Installation of Windows 10

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

Ok, I need to ask you this because Jaws is not reading the start menu. What
I need to run to go back to the installation point. I need to type it not
reading on the start menu, so can you please give me the item  or utility
that I need to open to downgrade my old computer to windows 7 again?
Thanks


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nermin via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 7:38 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Nermin
Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

Hi Pablo,

I don't think it has anything to do with age.
If you want to go back to Windows 7, there is an easier way.
From within Windows 10, you can downgrade and restore the old system during
30 days from the point of installation. Try to see if that works. You won't
have to fiddle with JAWS activations, and your authorisation number should
be retained.
And no, you cannot put the authorisation back onto the FS server.


And here's a tip for anyone wanting to spare the hastle when reinstalling.
Provided your machine stays the same and does not change its locking code
after a reinstall, you can always authorise JAWS by putting JAWS.cps back
onto the drive.
This file can be found in c:\program Files\Freedom Scientific\Activator.

Copy that to a save place, and whenever you have to reinstall your OS, copy
it back to the same place.
You will not have to reauthorise, provided the locking code of the machine
hasn't changed.

Regards,
Nermin 


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RE: removing jaws license

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

 a Windows 8 USB installer should be of some use

Here is the website this is taken from...

http://www.techradar.com/us/news/software/operating-systems/how-to-downgrade
-from-windows-10-to-windows-8-or-windows-7-1300286

HTH

Russell
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 4:51 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Pablo Morales pablocmd2...@gmail.com
Subject: removing jaws license

Hi all guys,

I think that my old computer, doesn't like windows 10 so much, and it is
working very slow, opening programs like Outlook 2007, it takes forever to
open. So I am thinking that probably will be healthy for my old computer go
back to windows 7. I have been reading on internet, that If I have the media
of windows 7, I just need to reinstall windows 7 on my computer like
formatting  the whole hard drive. But I am trying to keep my jaws
authorization  key, and I read that if I uninstall  the license on my older
computer, I will not add this key in the fs server, so I will need to call
FS and ask them another key. It is true?
It doesn't make any sense, but  can someone confirm that if I uninstall the
license in my computer, I will not be able to use it again, unless I call FS
and ask them for another key?
Thanks


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Spelling on word 2013

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

Hi all,
Probably this question is a little bit stupid, but I don't see the way to
get what I need.
On Microsoft Word 2015, specifically on Office 365, when I press F7, to use
the spelling features, the dialog that opens is very different than that
appears on Outlook 2013. In the dialog on word 2013, doesn't appear the list
of suggestions. I tried to search the dialog using the OCR, even though it
didn't see anything like list of suggestions in this window. It doesn't
exist, or exist a keystroke to go to the list of suggestions?
Thanks for any advice.


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Finding errors on excel

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

Hi all,

 

On Excel, is there a way to find formulas with circular reference? I have a
excel document with 1257 formulas, and I need to find a formula where is
occurring this error circular reference.

Is a way with jaws to find where is the problem between all these formulas?

Thanks

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RE: Adobe DC

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

Hi all,

I have a question about this topic. How Adobe DC works with jaws. How do you
add a text field on a PDF file?
For example, if I create a PDF file with Microsoft Word, and if on this
documents I place text fields, those text fields will not appear on the PDF
file. But how do you place text boxes on a PDF file using jaws?
Thanks in advance.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Merv Keck via
Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 11:50 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Merv Keck
Subject: RE: Adobe DC

The latest Adobe DC works very well with Jaws 16.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of cecropia64---
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 11:31 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: cecropi...@att.net
Subject: Re: Adobe DC

Michael:

I'm using the program and it seems to work okay with Jaws 16.  I'm not a
proficient user and noexpert on Adobe, but it seems to work well enough.

Stew
On 7/22/2015 10:33 AM, Michael Mote via Jfw wrote:
 Hi everyone!  Is anyone using Adobe DC yet?  If so, how well does it 
 work with JAWS?

   

   

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RE: Using JAWS with Avaya Agent One X

[Pablo Morales via Jfw]

Hi Mike,

I have used it, and it is very accessible. I will not say that it is 100%
accessible, but for the most part of things it is very accessible. Someone
working as customer service will not have any problem with this program.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Mote
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 10:07 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michael Mote
Subject: Using JAWS with Avaya Agent One X

Hi folks!  I was wondering if anyone here on the list had experience using
JAWS with Avaya Agent One X.  I had the opportunity to test it yesterday.  I
did not find anything that was not accessible.  I did not go through the
whole application, because I had limited access.  I would be interested to
hear from anyone who has used this application.  Many thanks!

 

 

 

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