Re: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

[Kimberly via Jfw]

That keystroke didn't work for me either.


Sent from Kimber's iPhone

> On Sep 10, 2015, at 12:54 AM, Kimsan via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
> 
> Interesting, the keystroke you mentioned didn't work for me, nor did the one
> I just offered her.  It use to work before 2013...
> 
> 
> So, 2013 users must take the long route to make this happen?
> 
> 
> Kimsan Song
> kimsans...@gmail.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
> via Jfw
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> Subject: RE: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs
> 
> Kimber,
> 
> In Word 2013, does the control-shift-8 (on the number row) still function as
> a toggle for this symbol? It might be simpler. (I still work with 2010.)
> 
> Also, the JAWS key-v quick setting dialog might help. Type I into the search
> field and arrow down through the results.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
> via Jfw
> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 7:44 AM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Cc: Kimber Gardner
> Subject: Re: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs
> 
> Hi Jo,
> 
> I think what you want is to display paragraph marks so jaws will indicate
> when you reach the end of a paragraph. To do this,
> 
> Go to options under the file tab by pressing alt F T.
> You will find yourself in a list of categories. Arrow down once to display,
> then tab over and explore your options for which marks to display. Make sure
> to check the box for paragraph marks. Tab to ok and press enter.
> 
> Now when you read your document  with the up and down arrows (line by line,
> you will hear jaws say "paragraph mark" when you reach the end of a
> paragraph.
> 
> I hope this helps.
> 
> Kimber
> Tab
> 
>> On 9/7/15, Jodie Hoger via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
>> Hi List,
>> I am doing an editing exercise using word 2013 and JAWS 16. I need to 
>> be able to detect paragraphs in the document so that I can highlight 
>> them and change their formatting eg., re-align the paragraph etc.
>> for the life of me I cannot find the commands to do this. Using a full 
>> keyboard.
>> Thanks for any advice.
>> Jo
>> 
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RE: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

[Ann Byrne via Jfw]

Has the JAWS feature been mentioned?  JAWS under insert-v under 
'editing' has a 'lines and paragraphs' feature which can be toggled off and on.



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RE: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

[Mcginnis, Barbara via Jfw]

Control Shift 8 is the show/hide paragraph feature in Word.  It has worked in 
all word programs since Office 97.  I have Office 365/13 now and it still works.

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Subject: RE: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

What about alt h followed by 8...


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Subject: Re: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

Adrian,

That's odd. I get nothing when I press control-shift-8 either in word
2010 or 2013 except for the announcement of the keys I've pressed.

Kimber

On 9/8/15, Adrian Spratt via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
> Kimber,
>
> In Word 2013, does the control-shift-8 (on the number row) still
> function
as
> a toggle for this symbol? It might be simpler. (I still work with
> 2010.)
>
> Also, the JAWS key-v quick setting dialog might help. Type I into the
search
> field and arrow down through the results.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimber
Gardner
> via Jfw
> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 7:44 AM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Cc: Kimber Gardner
> Subject: Re: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs
>
> Hi Jo,
>
> I think what you want is to display paragraph marks so jaws will
> indicate when you reach the end of a paragraph. To do this,
>
> Go to options under the file tab by pressing alt F T.
> You will find yourself in a list of categories. Arrow down once to
> display, then tab over and explore your options for which marks to
> display. Make sure to check the box for paragraph marks. Tab to ok and
> press enter.
>
> Now when you read your document  with the up and down arrows (line by
> line, you will hear jaws say "paragraph mark" when you reach the end
> of a paragraph.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Kimber
> Tab
>
> On 9/7/15, Jodie Hoger via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
>> Hi List,
>> I am doing an editing exercise using word 2013 and JAWS 16. I need to
>> be able to detect paragraphs in the document so that I can highlight
>> them and change their formatting eg., re-align the paragraph etc.
>> for the life of me I cannot find the commands to do this. Using a
>> full keyboard.
>> Thanks for any advice.
>> Jo
>>
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RE: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

[Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw]

I stand corrected re: my earlier instructions.  The display tab is, indeed, the 
one used to show paragraphs, tabs, spaces.  Advanced has a bunch of options, 
including several "show" options, but not those.

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Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 12:50 AM
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Subject: RE: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

What about alt h followed by 8...


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Subject: Re: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

Adrian,

That's odd. I get nothing when I press control-shift-8 either in word
2010 or 2013 except for the announcement of the keys I've pressed.

Kimber

On 9/8/15, Adrian Spratt via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
> Kimber,
>
> In Word 2013, does the control-shift-8 (on the number row) still 
> function
as
> a toggle for this symbol? It might be simpler. (I still work with 
> 2010.)
>
> Also, the JAWS key-v quick setting dialog might help. Type I into the
search
> field and arrow down through the results.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimber
Gardner
> via Jfw
> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 7:44 AM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Cc: Kimber Gardner
> Subject: Re: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs
>
> Hi Jo,
>
> I think what you want is to display paragraph marks so jaws will 
> indicate when you reach the end of a paragraph. To do this,
>
> Go to options under the file tab by pressing alt F T.
> You will find yourself in a list of categories. Arrow down once to 
> display, then tab over and explore your options for which marks to 
> display. Make sure to check the box for paragraph marks. Tab to ok and 
> press enter.
>
> Now when you read your document  with the up and down arrows (line by 
> line, you will hear jaws say "paragraph mark" when you reach the end 
> of a paragraph.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Kimber
> Tab
>
> On 9/7/15, Jodie Hoger via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
>> Hi List,
>> I am doing an editing exercise using word 2013 and JAWS 16. I need to 
>> be able to detect paragraphs in the document so that I can highlight 
>> them and change their formatting eg., re-align the paragraph etc.
>> for the life of me I cannot find the commands to do this. Using a 
>> full keyboard.
>> Thanks for any advice.
>> Jo
>>
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RE: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

[Kimsan via Jfw]

I'm aware of what it is and either keystrokes work for me.


Kimsan Song
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mcginnis,
Barbara via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 5:11 AM
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Cc: Mcginnis, Barbara <barbara.mcgin...@dhhs.nc.gov>
Subject: RE: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

Control Shift 8 is the show/hide paragraph feature in Word.  It has worked
in all word programs since Office 97.  I have Office 365/13 now and it still
works.

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Cc: Kimsan <kimsans...@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

What about alt h followed by 8...


Kimsan Song
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Subject: Re: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

Adrian,

That's odd. I get nothing when I press control-shift-8 either in word
2010 or 2013 except for the announcement of the keys I've pressed.

Kimber

On 9/8/15, Adrian Spratt via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
> Kimber,
>
> In Word 2013, does the control-shift-8 (on the number row) still 
> function
as
> a toggle for this symbol? It might be simpler. (I still work with
> 2010.)
>
> Also, the JAWS key-v quick setting dialog might help. Type I into the
search
> field and arrow down through the results.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimber
Gardner
> via Jfw
> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 7:44 AM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Cc: Kimber Gardner
> Subject: Re: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs
>
> Hi Jo,
>
> I think what you want is to display paragraph marks so jaws will 
> indicate when you reach the end of a paragraph. To do this,
>
> Go to options under the file tab by pressing alt F T.
> You will find yourself in a list of categories. Arrow down once to 
> display, then tab over and explore your options for which marks to 
> display. Make sure to check the box for paragraph marks. Tab to ok and 
> press enter.
>
> Now when you read your document  with the up and down arrows (line by 
> line, you will hear jaws say "paragraph mark" when you reach the end 
> of a paragraph.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Kimber
> Tab
>
> On 9/7/15, Jodie Hoger via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
>> Hi List,
>> I am doing an editing exercise using word 2013 and JAWS 16. I need to 
>> be able to detect paragraphs in the document so that I can highlight 
>> them and change their formatting eg., re-align the paragraph etc.
>> for the life of me I cannot find the commands to do this. Using a 
>> full keyboard.
>> Thanks for any advice.
>> Jo
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

[Bill White via Jfw]

Maybe the person is not using the number 8 on the numbers row, and instead, 
is trying to use the number 8 on the NumPad. This keystroke will not work. 
It must be the number 8 on the numbers row above the letter I.

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Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 5:11 AM
Subject: RE: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs


Control Shift 8 is the show/hide paragraph feature in Word.  It has worked 
in all word programs since Office 97.  I have Office 365/13 now and it 
still works.


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Cc: Kimsan <kimsans...@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

What about alt h followed by 8...


Kimsan Song
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimber 
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Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2015 5:17 AM
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Cc: Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

Adrian,

That's odd. I get nothing when I press control-shift-8 either in word
2010 or 2013 except for the announcement of the keys I've pressed.

Kimber

On 9/8/15, Adrian Spratt via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Kimber,

In Word 2013, does the control-shift-8 (on the number row) still
function

as

a toggle for this symbol? It might be simpler. (I still work with
2010.)

Also, the JAWS key-v quick setting dialog might help. Type I into the

search

field and arrow down through the results.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimber

Gardner

via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 7:44 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Kimber Gardner
Subject: Re: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

Hi Jo,

I think what you want is to display paragraph marks so jaws will
indicate when you reach the end of a paragraph. To do this,

Go to options under the file tab by pressing alt F T.
You will find yourself in a list of categories. Arrow down once to
display, then tab over and explore your options for which marks to
display. Make sure to check the box for paragraph marks. Tab to ok and
press enter.

Now when you read your document  with the up and down arrows (line by
line, you will hear jaws say "paragraph mark" when you reach the end
of a paragraph.

I hope this helps.

Kimber
Tab

On 9/7/15, Jodie Hoger via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Hi List,
I am doing an editing exercise using word 2013 and JAWS 16. I need to
be able to detect paragraphs in the document so that I can highlight
them and change their formatting eg., re-align the paragraph etc.
for the life of me I cannot find the commands to do this. Using a
full keyboard.
Thanks for any advice.
Jo

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RE: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

[Jim Hamilton via Jfw]

Thanks Bill.  I think that the toggling makes more sense!

Jim H

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Subject: Re: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

Hi, Jim. I don't know if the formatting characters are visible on the
printer, but they are definitely visible on the screen.

As far as toggling them off, just use CONTROL plus SHIFT plus 8, to toggle
them, or go back and uncheck the check box that you used to turn them on.
Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
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Subject: RE: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs


> Once we have done this, and we have turned on these "formatting"
> characters,
> will they be printed with a document?  Or, will such "symbols" be
> "invisible" to the printer?  Would there be a way to toggle, e.g.
> "formatting symbols on" and "formatting symbols off", to make a document
> ready for printing sooner?  If not, perhaps a "macro" could be used;but, I
> would first have to learn how to create/use macros!
>
> Jim H
>
> P.S.: Am I ever learning a lot from this list!
>
> -Original Message-
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> (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
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> Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <ted.li...@ky.gov>
> Subject: RE: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs
>
> Open your document, go to File.  Go to Options.  Tab to Advanced, and
> start
> looking.  It's a big list, but what you want is there.  You want to be
> able
> to see the paragraph marks in Word.  You also have options for spaces and
> tabs.
>
> Ted
>
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> via Jfw
> Sent: Monday, September 07, 2015 10:24 PM
> To: jaws
> Cc: Jodie Hoger
> Subject: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs
>
> Hi List,
> I am doing an editing exercise using word 2013 and JAWS 16. I need to be
> able to detect paragraphs in the document so that I can highlight them and
> change their formatting eg., re-align the paragraph etc.
> for the life of me I cannot find the commands to do this. Using a full
> keyboard.
> Thanks for any advice.
> Jo
>
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RE: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

[Jim Hamilton via Jfw]

Once we have done this, and we have turned on these "formatting" characters,
will they be printed with a document?  Or, will such "symbols" be
"invisible" to the printer?  Would there be a way to toggle, e.g.
"formatting symbols on" and "formatting symbols off", to make a document
ready for printing sooner?  If not, perhaps a "macro" could be used;but, I
would first have to learn how to create/use macros!

Jim H

P.S.:   Am I ever learning a lot from this list!

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Subject: RE: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

Open your document, go to File.  Go to Options.  Tab to Advanced, and start
looking.  It's a big list, but what you want is there.  You want to be able
to see the paragraph marks in Word.  You also have options for spaces and
tabs.

Ted

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Cc: Jodie Hoger
Subject: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

Hi List,
I am doing an editing exercise using word 2013 and JAWS 16. I need to be
able to detect paragraphs in the document so that I can highlight them and
change their formatting eg., re-align the paragraph etc.
for the life of me I cannot find the commands to do this. Using a full
keyboard.
Thanks for any advice.
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Re: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

[Bill White via Jfw]

Hi, Jim. I don't know if the formatting characters are visible on the 
printer, but they are definitely visible on the screen.


As far as toggling them off, just use CONTROL plus SHIFT plus 8, to toggle 
them, or go back and uncheck the check box that you used to turn them on.

Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
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Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 8:28 AM
Subject: RE: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs


Once we have done this, and we have turned on these "formatting" 
characters,

will they be printed with a document?  Or, will such "symbols" be
"invisible" to the printer?  Would there be a way to toggle, e.g.
"formatting symbols on" and "formatting symbols off", to make a document
ready for printing sooner?  If not, perhaps a "macro" could be used;but, I
would first have to learn how to create/use macros!

Jim H

P.S.: Am I ever learning a lot from this list!

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Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <ted.li...@ky.gov>
Subject: RE: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

Open your document, go to File.  Go to Options.  Tab to Advanced, and 
start
looking.  It's a big list, but what you want is there.  You want to be 
able

to see the paragraph marks in Word.  You also have options for spaces and
tabs.

Ted

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Subject: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

Hi List,
I am doing an editing exercise using word 2013 and JAWS 16. I need to be
able to detect paragraphs in the document so that I can highlight them and
change their formatting eg., re-align the paragraph etc.
for the life of me I cannot find the commands to do this. Using a full
keyboard.
Thanks for any advice.
Jo

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RE: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

[Kimsan via Jfw]

What about alt h followed by 8...


Kimsan Song
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Subject: Re: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

Adrian,

That's odd. I get nothing when I press control-shift-8 either in word
2010 or 2013 except for the announcement of the keys I've pressed.

Kimber

On 9/8/15, Adrian Spratt via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
> Kimber,
>
> In Word 2013, does the control-shift-8 (on the number row) still function
as
> a toggle for this symbol? It might be simpler. (I still work with 2010.)
>
> Also, the JAWS key-v quick setting dialog might help. Type I into the
search
> field and arrow down through the results.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimber
Gardner
> via Jfw
> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 7:44 AM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Cc: Kimber Gardner
> Subject: Re: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs
>
> Hi Jo,
>
> I think what you want is to display paragraph marks so jaws will
> indicate when you reach the end of a paragraph. To do this,
>
> Go to options under the file tab by pressing alt F T.
> You will find yourself in a list of categories. Arrow down once to
> display, then tab over and explore your options for which marks to
> display. Make sure to check the box for paragraph marks. Tab to ok and
> press enter.
>
> Now when you read your document  with the up and down arrows (line by
> line, you will hear jaws say "paragraph mark" when you reach the end
> of a paragraph.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Kimber
> Tab
>
> On 9/7/15, Jodie Hoger via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
>> Hi List,
>> I am doing an editing exercise using word 2013 and JAWS 16. I need to be
>> able to detect paragraphs in the document so that I can highlight them
>> and
>> change their formatting eg., re-align the paragraph etc.
>> for the life of me I cannot find the commands to do this. Using a full
>> keyboard.
>> Thanks for any advice.
>> Jo
>>
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RE: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

[Kimsan via Jfw]

Interesting, the keystroke you mentioned didn't work for me, nor did the one
I just offered her.  It use to work before 2013...


So, 2013 users must take the long route to make this happen?


Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

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Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2015 5:10 AM
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Subject: RE: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

Kimber,

In Word 2013, does the control-shift-8 (on the number row) still function as
a toggle for this symbol? It might be simpler. (I still work with 2010.)

Also, the JAWS key-v quick setting dialog might help. Type I into the search
field and arrow down through the results.

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Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 7:44 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Kimber Gardner
Subject: Re: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

Hi Jo,

I think what you want is to display paragraph marks so jaws will indicate
when you reach the end of a paragraph. To do this,

Go to options under the file tab by pressing alt F T.
You will find yourself in a list of categories. Arrow down once to display,
then tab over and explore your options for which marks to display. Make sure
to check the box for paragraph marks. Tab to ok and press enter.

Now when you read your document  with the up and down arrows (line by line,
you will hear jaws say "paragraph mark" when you reach the end of a
paragraph.

I hope this helps.

Kimber
Tab

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> Hi List,
> I am doing an editing exercise using word 2013 and JAWS 16. I need to 
> be able to detect paragraphs in the document so that I can highlight 
> them and change their formatting eg., re-align the paragraph etc.
> for the life of me I cannot find the commands to do this. Using a full 
> keyboard.
> Thanks for any advice.
> Jo
>
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Re: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

[Kimber Gardner via Jfw]

Adrian,

That's odd. I get nothing when I press control-shift-8 either in word
2010 or 2013 except for the announcement of the keys I've pressed.

Kimber

On 9/8/15, Adrian Spratt via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
> Kimber,
>
> In Word 2013, does the control-shift-8 (on the number row) still function as
> a toggle for this symbol? It might be simpler. (I still work with 2010.)
>
> Also, the JAWS key-v quick setting dialog might help. Type I into the search
> field and arrow down through the results.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
> via Jfw
> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 7:44 AM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Cc: Kimber Gardner
> Subject: Re: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs
>
> Hi Jo,
>
> I think what you want is to display paragraph marks so jaws will
> indicate when you reach the end of a paragraph. To do this,
>
> Go to options under the file tab by pressing alt F T.
> You will find yourself in a list of categories. Arrow down once to
> display, then tab over and explore your options for which marks to
> display. Make sure to check the box for paragraph marks. Tab to ok and
> press enter.
>
> Now when you read your document  with the up and down arrows (line by
> line, you will hear jaws say "paragraph mark" when you reach the end
> of a paragraph.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Kimber
> Tab
>
> On 9/7/15, Jodie Hoger via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
>> Hi List,
>> I am doing an editing exercise using word 2013 and JAWS 16. I need to be
>> able to detect paragraphs in the document so that I can highlight them
>> and
>> change their formatting eg., re-align the paragraph etc.
>> for the life of me I cannot find the commands to do this. Using a full
>> keyboard.
>> Thanks for any advice.
>> Jo
>>
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Re: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

[Ann Byrne via Jfw]

How about alt-h, then 8?
At 07:17 AM 9/8/2015, you wrote:

Adrian,

That's odd. I get nothing when I press control-shift-8 either in word
2010 or 2013 except for the announcement of the keys I've pressed.

Kimber

On 9/8/15, Adrian Spratt via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
> Kimber,
>
> In Word 2013, does the control-shift-8 (on the number row) still 
function as

> a toggle for this symbol? It might be simpler. (I still work with 2010.)
>
> Also, the JAWS key-v quick setting dialog might help. Type I into 
the search

> field and arrow down through the results.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of 
Kimber Gardner

> via Jfw
> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 7:44 AM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Cc: Kimber Gardner
> Subject: Re: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs
>
> Hi Jo,
>
> I think what you want is to display paragraph marks so jaws will
> indicate when you reach the end of a paragraph. To do this,
>
> Go to options under the file tab by pressing alt F T.
> You will find yourself in a list of categories. Arrow down once to
> display, then tab over and explore your options for which marks to
> display. Make sure to check the box for paragraph marks. Tab to ok and
> press enter.
>
> Now when you read your document  with the up and down arrows (line by
> line, you will hear jaws say "paragraph mark" when you reach the end
> of a paragraph.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Kimber
> Tab
>
> On 9/7/15, Jodie Hoger via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
>> Hi List,
>> I am doing an editing exercise using word 2013 and JAWS 16. I need to be
>> able to detect paragraphs in the document so that I can highlight them
>> and
>> change their formatting eg., re-align the paragraph etc.
>> for the life of me I cannot find the commands to do this. Using a full
>> keyboard.
>> Thanks for any advice.
>> Jo
>>
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RE: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

[Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw]

Open your document, go to File.  Go to Options.  Tab to Advanced, and start 
looking.  It's a big list, but what you want is there.  You want to be able to 
see the paragraph marks in Word.  You also have options for spaces and tabs.

Ted

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Sent: Monday, September 07, 2015 10:24 PM
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Subject: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

Hi List,
I am doing an editing exercise using word 2013 and JAWS 16. I need to be able 
to detect paragraphs in the document so that I can highlight them and change 
their formatting eg., re-align the paragraph etc.
for the life of me I cannot find the commands to do this. Using a full keyboard.
Thanks for any advice. 
Jo 

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Re: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

[Bill White via Jfw]

Hi, Kimber. There is no announcement when you press CONTROL plus SHIFT plus 
8. It just makes the change without telling you.

Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
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Subject: Re: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs



Adrian,

That's odd. I get nothing when I press control-shift-8 either in word
2010 or 2013 except for the announcement of the keys I've pressed.

Kimber

On 9/8/15, Adrian Spratt via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Kimber,

In Word 2013, does the control-shift-8 (on the number row) still function 
as

a toggle for this symbol? It might be simpler. (I still work with 2010.)

Also, the JAWS key-v quick setting dialog might help. Type I into the 
search

field and arrow down through the results.

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Gardner

via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 7:44 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Kimber Gardner
Subject: Re: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

Hi Jo,

I think what you want is to display paragraph marks so jaws will
indicate when you reach the end of a paragraph. To do this,

Go to options under the file tab by pressing alt F T.
You will find yourself in a list of categories. Arrow down once to
display, then tab over and explore your options for which marks to
display. Make sure to check the box for paragraph marks. Tab to ok and
press enter.

Now when you read your document  with the up and down arrows (line by
line, you will hear jaws say "paragraph mark" when you reach the end
of a paragraph.

I hope this helps.

Kimber
Tab

On 9/7/15, Jodie Hoger via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Hi List,
I am doing an editing exercise using word 2013 and JAWS 16. I need to be
able to detect paragraphs in the document so that I can highlight them
and
change their formatting eg., re-align the paragraph etc.
for the life of me I cannot find the commands to do this. Using a full
keyboard.
Thanks for any advice.
Jo

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RE: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

[Jim Hamilton via Jfw]

HI:

As usual, I have a "take charge/control" approach to this kind of thing.
First, I go into JAWS Keyboard Manager.  I find the section that allows you
to read things like "Prior" and "next", regarding "word", sentence" and
"paragraph.  I then set keystrokes for each.  For example, in my case, I
have ctrl+numpad Home", set for previous paragraph, ctrl+numpad up arrow for
"current paragraph" and ctrl+numbad "page up" for "next paragraph".  But,
that's just how "I" like it.  You can set it up as you wish - or, use the
JAWS values, if there are any already set forth for these settings.

In your case, I would then move to the "select..,." part of this Keyboard
Manager list, and set shift+ctrl+numpad "page up" for selecting the "next
paragraph", assuming that I wish to select, and copy/cut and paste my "next
paragraph, as my keystrokes to accomplish this.  Then, I can move it
anywhere, and make whatever editing changes I want to make to that paragraph
- as it seems you wish to do.

Frankly, I do not know the other suggestions that have been put forward to
this question.  However, as I mentioned, I like to "be in charge", and I
prefer this kind of approach.  And, once these Keyboard Manager setting
changes have been made, I can do what I want, editing-wise, without worrying
about what I may need to do with the word/sentence/paragraph after moving
it.

Good luck.  You will find what works best for you, and that may not be the
same as what works for me!

JimH

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Hi, Kimber. There is no announcement when you press CONTROL plus SHIFT plus
8. It just makes the change without telling you.
Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
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Subject: Re: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs


> Adrian,
>
> That's odd. I get nothing when I press control-shift-8 either in word
> 2010 or 2013 except for the announcement of the keys I've pressed.
>
> Kimber
>
> On 9/8/15, Adrian Spratt via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
>> Kimber,
>>
>> In Word 2013, does the control-shift-8 (on the number row) still function

>> as
>> a toggle for this symbol? It might be simpler. (I still work with 2010.)
>>
>> Also, the JAWS key-v quick setting dialog might help. Type I into the
>> search
>> field and arrow down through the results.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimber
>> Gardner
>> via Jfw
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 7:44 AM
>> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
>> Cc: Kimber Gardner
>> Subject: Re: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs
>>
>> Hi Jo,
>>
>> I think what you want is to display paragraph marks so jaws will
>> indicate when you reach the end of a paragraph. To do this,
>>
>> Go to options under the file tab by pressing alt F T.
>> You will find yourself in a list of categories. Arrow down once to
>> display, then tab over and explore your options for which marks to
>> display. Make sure to check the box for paragraph marks. Tab to ok and
>> press enter.
>>
>> Now when you read your document  with the up and down arrows (line by
>> line, you will hear jaws say "paragraph mark" when you reach the end
>> of a paragraph.
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>> Kimber
>> Tab
>>
>> On 9/7/15, Jodie Hoger via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
>>> Hi List,
>>> I am doing an editing exercise using word 2013 and JAWS 16. I need to be
>>> able to detect paragraphs in the document so that I can highlight them
>>> and
>>> change their formatting eg., re-align the paragraph etc.
>>> for the life of me I cannot find the commands to do this. Using a full
>>> keyboard.
>>> Thanks for any advice.
>>> Jo
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

[Steve Griffiths via Jfw]

Hi Jodie,

If you just want to move by paragraph, Ctrl-Down or Ctrl-Up will do it; you can 
add Shift to select by that amount.

If you want, you can also put paragraph marks on the screen so that, even if 
you're arrowing through a document, you'll know where paragraphs end. The 
"paragraph mark" is the character that you get when you press the Enter key, 
but usually it's not visible because most people aren't bothered about it.

The Ctrl-Shift-8 keystroke that's been mentioned adds a number of 
"non-printing" marks to the screen, including paragraph marks, spaces and Tabs. 
Recent versions of JAWS don't read these, and I think this is because people 
often pressed the command by mistake, and then couldn't get rid of the extra 
information JAWS was reading out. 

But you can still add just paragraph marks to the screen from the Options 
dialogue. Press Alt, F, T to open the dialogue. DownArrow to Display, then Tab 
to Paragraph marks. Press Space to toggle the setting to checked. Then press 
Enter to close the dialogue. When you do it this way, JAWS will read the 
paragraph marks that are now on screen.

Hope that helps,
Steve

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-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jodie Hoger via 
Jfw
Sent: 08 September 2015 03:24
To: jaws 
Cc: Jodie Hoger 
Subject: detecting formatting in word 2013 especially paragraphs

Hi List,
I am doing an editing exercise using word 2013 and JAWS 16. I need to be able 
to detect paragraphs in the document so that I can highlight them and change 
their formatting eg., re-align the paragraph etc.
for the life of me I cannot find the commands to do this. Using a full keyboard.
Thanks for any advice. 
Jo 

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