[jQuery] Re: jquery + adobe air: getting started?

2007-10-02 Thread Andy Matthews

If anyone sends you something offlist, please post it back here. I'm also
VERY interested in learning this type of development. 

-Original Message-
From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jack Killpatrick
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:13 AM
To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com
Subject: [jQuery] jquery + adobe air: getting started?


Hi All,

Anyone know of some blog entries, tutorials, etc (other than the general
stuff at Adobe Labs) that might help me get started migrating a
jquery-based HTML app to the Adobe AIR runtime? I'm looking for
jquery-specific tips, examples, etc.

My app does a lot of ajax calls that send json data back and forth, so the
bulk of it will live in the AIR sandbox, at least initially, so that has to
be present in the how-to's. I'm using Aptana's AIR plugin for Eclipse for my
IDE, FWIW.

Thanks!
- Jack




[jQuery] Re: jquery + adobe air: getting started?

2007-10-02 Thread Jake McGraw

A free copy of AIR for JavaScript Developers is available here:

http://tinyurl.com/23uqqj [ajaxian.com]

As jQuery ajax functions work within Safari (Webkit), there should be
no major overhauls necessary for your app. Simply generate a static
HTML representation of your application and include it in a directory
with jquery.js, AIRAlias.js and your custom scripts/images. Create an
AIR configuration file (see book) and you should be good to go.

You may also want to check out the Flex Build IDE for Eclipse. It
includes a lot of built in functionality for developing AIR
Applications using either Flex/Flash or HTML/JavaScript.

- jake

On 10/2/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If anyone sends you something offlist, please post it back here. I'm also
 VERY interested in learning this type of development.

 -Original Message-
 From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Jack Killpatrick
 Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:13 AM
 To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [jQuery] jquery + adobe air: getting started?


 Hi All,

 Anyone know of some blog entries, tutorials, etc (other than the general
 stuff at Adobe Labs) that might help me get started migrating a
 jquery-based HTML app to the Adobe AIR runtime? I'm looking for
 jquery-specific tips, examples, etc.

 My app does a lot of ajax calls that send json data back and forth, so the
 bulk of it will live in the AIR sandbox, at least initially, so that has to
 be present in the how-to's. I'm using Aptana's AIR plugin for Eclipse for my
 IDE, FWIW.

 Thanks!
 - Jack





[jQuery] Re: jquery + adobe air: getting started?

2007-10-02 Thread Jack Killpatrick


Thanks Jake,

At this risk of getting too off-topic, I don't *think* that will work 
for my scenario, which is an app that does a lot of jquery ajax stuff 
with json. In particular, there is a sandbox that some of it will have 
to live in:


http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/AIR:HTML_Security_FAQ

Also, ideally, I would like to maintain one copy of the core code, but 
have it work for both the AIR app and the web app, ideally with them 
both sharing code (not copies).


FWIW, right now, I have little need for the AIR-specific features (drag 
drop, local file system access, etc), and am just looking for the best 
way to shoehorn my existing jquery app into the sandbox, I *think*.


Re: FlexBuilder, I'm using the Aptana plugin for AIR in Eclipse.

Thx,
Jack

Jake McGraw wrote:

A free copy of AIR for JavaScript Developers is available here:

http://tinyurl.com/23uqqj [ajaxian.com]

As jQuery ajax functions work within Safari (Webkit), there should be
no major overhauls necessary for your app. Simply generate a static
HTML representation of your application and include it in a directory
with jquery.js, AIRAlias.js and your custom scripts/images. Create an
AIR configuration file (see book) and you should be good to go.

You may also want to check out the Flex Build IDE for Eclipse. It
includes a lot of built in functionality for developing AIR
Applications using either Flex/Flash or HTML/JavaScript.

- jake

On 10/2/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

If anyone sends you something offlist, please post it back here. I'm also
VERY interested in learning this type of development.

-Original Message-
From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jack Killpatrick
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:13 AM
To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com
Subject: [jQuery] jquery + adobe air: getting started?


Hi All,

Anyone know of some blog entries, tutorials, etc (other than the general
stuff at Adobe Labs) that might help me get started migrating a
jquery-based HTML app to the Adobe AIR runtime? I'm looking for
jquery-specific tips, examples, etc.

My app does a lot of ajax calls that send json data back and forth, so the
bulk of it will live in the AIR sandbox, at least initially, so that has to
be present in the how-to's. I'm using Aptana's AIR plugin for Eclipse for my
IDE, FWIW.

Thanks!
- Jack






  





[jQuery] Re: jquery + adobe air: getting started?

2007-10-02 Thread Rey Bango


Hi Jack,

Before Beta 2 and the new security features, doing that would've been 
trivial. With the new features, I don't believe you'll be able to just 
have one codebase for your app since the sandboxes are built in a way 
that require you to use the built-in APIs to do things like Ajax calls. 
Don't quote me at I'm not 100% sure on this.


I just downloaded Beta 2 myself and hopefully will be able to get into 
it further but in my phone call with Adobe, they explicitly said that 
they would be enhancing security and it would require changes to the 
way the apps are built.


There's a post on Ajaxian that give some good links as well:

http://ajaxian.com/archives/ext-20-scrolling-tabs-anchor-layout-the-web-desktop-and-more

I also have contacts on the AIR team at Adobe so if you have specific 
AIR questions, let me know.


Rey...

Jack Killpatrick wrote:


Thanks Jake,

At this risk of getting too off-topic, I don't *think* that will work 
for my scenario, which is an app that does a lot of jquery ajax stuff 
with json. In particular, there is a sandbox that some of it will have 
to live in:


http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/AIR:HTML_Security_FAQ

Also, ideally, I would like to maintain one copy of the core code, but 
have it work for both the AIR app and the web app, ideally with them 
both sharing code (not copies).


FWIW, right now, I have little need for the AIR-specific features (drag 
drop, local file system access, etc), and am just looking for the best 
way to shoehorn my existing jquery app into the sandbox, I *think*.


Re: FlexBuilder, I'm using the Aptana plugin for AIR in Eclipse.

Thx,
Jack

Jake McGraw wrote:

A free copy of AIR for JavaScript Developers is available here:

http://tinyurl.com/23uqqj [ajaxian.com]

As jQuery ajax functions work within Safari (Webkit), there should be
no major overhauls necessary for your app. Simply generate a static
HTML representation of your application and include it in a directory
with jquery.js, AIRAlias.js and your custom scripts/images. Create an
AIR configuration file (see book) and you should be good to go.

You may also want to check out the Flex Build IDE for Eclipse. It
includes a lot of built in functionality for developing AIR
Applications using either Flex/Flash or HTML/JavaScript.

- jake

On 10/2/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
If anyone sends you something offlist, please post it back here. I'm 
also

VERY interested in learning this type of development.

-Original Message-
From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jack Killpatrick
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:13 AM
To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com
Subject: [jQuery] jquery + adobe air: getting started?


Hi All,

Anyone know of some blog entries, tutorials, etc (other than the general
stuff at Adobe Labs) that might help me get started migrating a
jquery-based HTML app to the Adobe AIR runtime? I'm looking for
jquery-specific tips, examples, etc.

My app does a lot of ajax calls that send json data back and forth, 
so the
bulk of it will live in the AIR sandbox, at least initially, so that 
has to
be present in the how-to's. I'm using Aptana's AIR plugin for Eclipse 
for my

IDE, FWIW.

Thanks!
- Jack






  






[jQuery] Re: jquery + adobe air: getting started?

2007-10-02 Thread Jack Killpatrick


Thanks Rey. Finding out whether the usual jquery $.getJson and such will 
work from inside the (beta 2) sandbox (or some other way via the sandbox 
bridge) is my first task. If someone knows that, it'd save me some 
experimentation time. I dread the thought of converting code to the AIR 
native ajax api's. I suspect those only have to be used outside the 
sandbox (since forcing ajax code rewrites would not be inline with the 
goals of AIR as I've read them), but am not sure how the pieces fit 
together at this point.


I think you might have given me the wrong link below?

Thanks,
Jack

Rey Bango wrote:


Hi Jack,

Before Beta 2 and the new security features, doing that would've been 
trivial. With the new features, I don't believe you'll be able to just 
have one codebase for your app since the sandboxes are built in a way 
that require you to use the built-in APIs to do things like Ajax 
calls. Don't quote me at I'm not 100% sure on this.


I just downloaded Beta 2 myself and hopefully will be able to get into 
it further but in my phone call with Adobe, they explicitly said that 
they would be enhancing security and it would require changes to the 
way the apps are built.


There's a post on Ajaxian that give some good links as well:

http://ajaxian.com/archives/ext-20-scrolling-tabs-anchor-layout-the-web-desktop-and-more 



I also have contacts on the AIR team at Adobe so if you have specific 
AIR questions, let me know.


Rey...

Jack Killpatrick wrote:


Thanks Jake,

At this risk of getting too off-topic, I don't *think* that will work 
for my scenario, which is an app that does a lot of jquery ajax stuff 
with json. In particular, there is a sandbox that some of it will 
have to live in:


http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/AIR:HTML_Security_FAQ

Also, ideally, I would like to maintain one copy of the core code, 
but have it work for both the AIR app and the web app, ideally with 
them both sharing code (not copies).


FWIW, right now, I have little need for the AIR-specific features 
(drag drop, local file system access, etc), and am just looking for 
the best way to shoehorn my existing jquery app into the sandbox, I 
*think*.


Re: FlexBuilder, I'm using the Aptana plugin for AIR in Eclipse.

Thx,
Jack

Jake McGraw wrote:

A free copy of AIR for JavaScript Developers is available here:

http://tinyurl.com/23uqqj [ajaxian.com]

As jQuery ajax functions work within Safari (Webkit), there should be
no major overhauls necessary for your app. Simply generate a static
HTML representation of your application and include it in a directory
with jquery.js, AIRAlias.js and your custom scripts/images. Create an
AIR configuration file (see book) and you should be good to go.

You may also want to check out the Flex Build IDE for Eclipse. It
includes a lot of built in functionality for developing AIR
Applications using either Flex/Flash or HTML/JavaScript.

- jake

On 10/2/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
If anyone sends you something offlist, please post it back here. 
I'm also

VERY interested in learning this type of development.

-Original Message-
From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Behalf Of Jack Killpatrick
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:13 AM
To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com
Subject: [jQuery] jquery + adobe air: getting started?


Hi All,

Anyone know of some blog entries, tutorials, etc (other than the 
general

stuff at Adobe Labs) that might help me get started migrating a
jquery-based HTML app to the Adobe AIR runtime? I'm looking for
jquery-specific tips, examples, etc.

My app does a lot of ajax calls that send json data back and forth, 
so the
bulk of it will live in the AIR sandbox, at least initially, so 
that has to
be present in the how-to's. I'm using Aptana's AIR plugin for 
Eclipse for my

IDE, FWIW.

Thanks!
- Jack






  











[jQuery] Re: jquery + adobe air: getting started?

2007-10-02 Thread Andy Matthews

Thanks Jake. I'll check that out. 

-Original Message-
From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jake McGraw
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 12:19 PM
To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com
Subject: [jQuery] Re: jquery + adobe air: getting started?


A free copy of AIR for JavaScript Developers is available here:

http://tinyurl.com/23uqqj [ajaxian.com]

As jQuery ajax functions work within Safari (Webkit), there should be no
major overhauls necessary for your app. Simply generate a static HTML
representation of your application and include it in a directory with
jquery.js, AIRAlias.js and your custom scripts/images. Create an AIR
configuration file (see book) and you should be good to go.

You may also want to check out the Flex Build IDE for Eclipse. It includes a
lot of built in functionality for developing AIR Applications using either
Flex/Flash or HTML/JavaScript.

- jake

On 10/2/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If anyone sends you something offlist, please post it back here. I'm 
 also VERY interested in learning this type of development.

 -Original Message-
 From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 On Behalf Of Jack Killpatrick
 Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:13 AM
 To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [jQuery] jquery + adobe air: getting started?


 Hi All,

 Anyone know of some blog entries, tutorials, etc (other than the 
 general stuff at Adobe Labs) that might help me get started 
 migrating a jquery-based HTML app to the Adobe AIR runtime? I'm 
 looking for jquery-specific tips, examples, etc.

 My app does a lot of ajax calls that send json data back and forth, so 
 the bulk of it will live in the AIR sandbox, at least initially, so 
 that has to be present in the how-to's. I'm using Aptana's AIR plugin 
 for Eclipse for my IDE, FWIW.

 Thanks!
 - Jack







[jQuery] Re: jquery + adobe air: getting started?

2007-10-02 Thread Rey Bango


Yep I sure did. Here's the right link:

http://ajaxian.com/archives/a-breath-of-fresh-air-from-adobe

Rey

Jack Killpatrick wrote:


Thanks Rey. Finding out whether the usual jquery $.getJson and such will 
work from inside the (beta 2) sandbox (or some other way via the sandbox 
bridge) is my first task. If someone knows that, it'd save me some 
experimentation time. I dread the thought of converting code to the AIR 
native ajax api's. I suspect those only have to be used outside the 
sandbox (since forcing ajax code rewrites would not be inline with the 
goals of AIR as I've read them), but am not sure how the pieces fit 
together at this point.


I think you might have given me the wrong link below?

Thanks,
Jack

Rey Bango wrote:


Hi Jack,

Before Beta 2 and the new security features, doing that would've been 
trivial. With the new features, I don't believe you'll be able to just 
have one codebase for your app since the sandboxes are built in a way 
that require you to use the built-in APIs to do things like Ajax 
calls. Don't quote me at I'm not 100% sure on this.


I just downloaded Beta 2 myself and hopefully will be able to get into 
it further but in my phone call with Adobe, they explicitly said that 
they would be enhancing security and it would require changes to the 
way the apps are built.


There's a post on Ajaxian that give some good links as well:

http://ajaxian.com/archives/ext-20-scrolling-tabs-anchor-layout-the-web-desktop-and-more 



I also have contacts on the AIR team at Adobe so if you have specific 
AIR questions, let me know.


Rey...

Jack Killpatrick wrote:


Thanks Jake,

At this risk of getting too off-topic, I don't *think* that will work 
for my scenario, which is an app that does a lot of jquery ajax stuff 
with json. In particular, there is a sandbox that some of it will 
have to live in:


http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/AIR:HTML_Security_FAQ

Also, ideally, I would like to maintain one copy of the core code, 
but have it work for both the AIR app and the web app, ideally with 
them both sharing code (not copies).


FWIW, right now, I have little need for the AIR-specific features 
(drag drop, local file system access, etc), and am just looking for 
the best way to shoehorn my existing jquery app into the sandbox, I 
*think*.


Re: FlexBuilder, I'm using the Aptana plugin for AIR in Eclipse.

Thx,
Jack

Jake McGraw wrote:

A free copy of AIR for JavaScript Developers is available here:

http://tinyurl.com/23uqqj [ajaxian.com]

As jQuery ajax functions work within Safari (Webkit), there should be
no major overhauls necessary for your app. Simply generate a static
HTML representation of your application and include it in a directory
with jquery.js, AIRAlias.js and your custom scripts/images. Create an
AIR configuration file (see book) and you should be good to go.

You may also want to check out the Flex Build IDE for Eclipse. It
includes a lot of built in functionality for developing AIR
Applications using either Flex/Flash or HTML/JavaScript.

- jake

On 10/2/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
If anyone sends you something offlist, please post it back here. 
I'm also

VERY interested in learning this type of development.

-Original Message-
From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Behalf Of Jack Killpatrick
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:13 AM
To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com
Subject: [jQuery] jquery + adobe air: getting started?


Hi All,

Anyone know of some blog entries, tutorials, etc (other than the 
general

stuff at Adobe Labs) that might help me get started migrating a
jquery-based HTML app to the Adobe AIR runtime? I'm looking for
jquery-specific tips, examples, etc.

My app does a lot of ajax calls that send json data back and forth, 
so the
bulk of it will live in the AIR sandbox, at least initially, so 
that has to
be present in the how-to's. I'm using Aptana's AIR plugin for 
Eclipse for my

IDE, FWIW.

Thanks!
- Jack






  












[jQuery] Re: jquery + adobe air: getting started?

2007-10-02 Thread Rey Bango


Hey Jack,

I just found this on Dzone.

11 Recent Tutorials / Articles at the New Adobe Developer Center
http://www.beedigital.net/blog/?p=1417

Rey...

Jack Killpatrick wrote:


Thanks Rey. Finding out whether the usual jquery $.getJson and such will 
work from inside the (beta 2) sandbox (or some other way via the sandbox 
bridge) is my first task. If someone knows that, it'd save me some 
experimentation time. I dread the thought of converting code to the AIR 
native ajax api's. I suspect those only have to be used outside the 
sandbox (since forcing ajax code rewrites would not be inline with the 
goals of AIR as I've read them), but am not sure how the pieces fit 
together at this point.


I think you might have given me the wrong link below?

Thanks,
Jack

Rey Bango wrote:


Hi Jack,

Before Beta 2 and the new security features, doing that would've been 
trivial. With the new features, I don't believe you'll be able to just 
have one codebase for your app since the sandboxes are built in a way 
that require you to use the built-in APIs to do things like Ajax 
calls. Don't quote me at I'm not 100% sure on this.


I just downloaded Beta 2 myself and hopefully will be able to get into 
it further but in my phone call with Adobe, they explicitly said that 
they would be enhancing security and it would require changes to the 
way the apps are built.


There's a post on Ajaxian that give some good links as well:

http://ajaxian.com/archives/ext-20-scrolling-tabs-anchor-layout-the-web-desktop-and-more 



I also have contacts on the AIR team at Adobe so if you have specific 
AIR questions, let me know.


Rey...

Jack Killpatrick wrote:


Thanks Jake,

At this risk of getting too off-topic, I don't *think* that will work 
for my scenario, which is an app that does a lot of jquery ajax stuff 
with json. In particular, there is a sandbox that some of it will 
have to live in:


http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/AIR:HTML_Security_FAQ

Also, ideally, I would like to maintain one copy of the core code, 
but have it work for both the AIR app and the web app, ideally with 
them both sharing code (not copies).


FWIW, right now, I have little need for the AIR-specific features 
(drag drop, local file system access, etc), and am just looking for 
the best way to shoehorn my existing jquery app into the sandbox, I 
*think*.


Re: FlexBuilder, I'm using the Aptana plugin for AIR in Eclipse.

Thx,
Jack

Jake McGraw wrote:

A free copy of AIR for JavaScript Developers is available here:

http://tinyurl.com/23uqqj [ajaxian.com]

As jQuery ajax functions work within Safari (Webkit), there should be
no major overhauls necessary for your app. Simply generate a static
HTML representation of your application and include it in a directory
with jquery.js, AIRAlias.js and your custom scripts/images. Create an
AIR configuration file (see book) and you should be good to go.

You may also want to check out the Flex Build IDE for Eclipse. It
includes a lot of built in functionality for developing AIR
Applications using either Flex/Flash or HTML/JavaScript.

- jake

On 10/2/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
If anyone sends you something offlist, please post it back here. 
I'm also

VERY interested in learning this type of development.

-Original Message-
From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Behalf Of Jack Killpatrick
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:13 AM
To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com
Subject: [jQuery] jquery + adobe air: getting started?


Hi All,

Anyone know of some blog entries, tutorials, etc (other than the 
general

stuff at Adobe Labs) that might help me get started migrating a
jquery-based HTML app to the Adobe AIR runtime? I'm looking for
jquery-specific tips, examples, etc.

My app does a lot of ajax calls that send json data back and forth, 
so the
bulk of it will live in the AIR sandbox, at least initially, so 
that has to
be present in the how-to's. I'm using Aptana's AIR plugin for 
Eclipse for my

IDE, FWIW.

Thanks!
- Jack