Re: [jug-discussion] Group direction & ideas

2005-06-01 Thread Warner Onstine
We have that in the announce list (which does get the meeting 
announcements as well).


-warner

On Jun 1, 2005, at 4:05 PM, Chad Woolley wrote:

I agree totally.  I've missed more than one because I just forgot.  I 
think an opt-in "meeting notification" email list might work well.  I 
can then filter these to go to my main email addy where I see them 
immediately, while the regular list gets filtered out to read at my 
convenience (which can come at irregular intervals).


-- Chad

Eric Biesterfeld wrote:


How about something as simple as two emails - one the day before and
one a few hours before - reminding of the meeting, and the
where/when/who?
I'd imagine a few people just kind of forget...



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Re: [jug-discussion] Group direction & ideas

2005-06-01 Thread Chad Woolley
I agree totally.  I've missed more than one because I just forgot.  I 
think an opt-in "meeting notification" email list might work well.  I 
can then filter these to go to my main email addy where I see them 
immediately, while the regular list gets filtered out to read at my 
convenience (which can come at irregular intervals).


-- Chad

Eric Biesterfeld wrote:


How about something as simple as two emails - one the day before and
one a few hours before - reminding of the meeting, and the
where/when/who?

I'd imagine a few people just kind of forget...




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Re: [jug-discussion] Group direction & ideas

2005-05-21 Thread Cara
Did someone say Guinness? I'm coming!

As a member of the 'virtual contingent', I'm feelin' pretty low right
now. I want to come meet you guys and I will! Your topics have been
very relevant to much of what I do. My problem for the last couple
months has been the ol' 'sucking on a fire hose at work and needing a
vacation super bad' syndrome. Sometimes I take my laptop home and I
kinda just stare at it, and I want to hurl.

I've been grappling with more software engineering monsters rather
than lower level language (Java, C) details. Stuff like, how do you
take a team of developers of sometimes very different abilities and
produce a quality product, somewhat on time. So, things like Ant
automation, Maven, unit testing before writing modules vs. after, and
code complexity (a big one). We can XML config the crap out of
everything, but given the goals of the project, should we? Hey, cool,
we can use reflection here, half the team will get it, half won't, so
should we use it here? Do we create interfaces with inheritance and
abstract classes or do we use Java interfaces?

We did this medium sized web application and we had just started with
ant. We had the directory structure from hell. Things got dumped into
CVS a certain way, then the development(IDE) structure was different
from the production Linux structure. Ant moved things from here to
there, did file replacements ... we had Ant scripts from hell! The
next project, we really investigated a simple structure ... plus, we
got a different set of eyes onto the task. Our ant targets do very
simple things and some directories like 'build' serve one very
specific purpose. The whole team can understand deployment by looking
at the ant script. In the first project, deployment became rather
mysterious. It is, however, astonishing, what a big difference this is
making to the project.

Anyway, this is kinda where I'm at work wise. I like to learn fun new
language things by actually doing a project. Otherwise, I don't have
good follow thru mainly because my family deserves some time too. I
would love to do a project that actually helps improve the
world/Tucson somehow. Help an organization convert to linux or freebsd
to save money. Write games that help kids learn. Help spread 100
dollar linux computers throughout the third world and see what all the
diverse minds come up with ...

cara

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Re: [jug-discussion] Group direction & ideas

2005-05-20 Thread Eric Biesterfeld
How about something as simple as two emails - one the day before and
one a few hours before - reminding of the meeting, and the
where/when/who?

I'd imagine a few people just kind of forget...

On 5/20/05, Tim Colson (tcolson) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey gang -
> 
> Last month the in-person group was rather small. TR gave a good talk on
> running Java from Oracle. We all know the group number varies...and some
> times of the year or particular topics/speakers bring in a lot more
> folks than others.
> 
> And there is also have a large 'virtual' contingent on the list... so
> obviously speakers aren't a big draw for those folks right now.
> 
> I've been attending for a few years now, and I'd like to see TJUG evolve
> and grow a bit. I'd love to have more people interested in attending the
> meetings, and participating on the mailing list.
> 
> I'm interested in all sorts of presentations topics from code to html
> design to css to the Dark Side to C# to home theatre to animation to
> decorated 2d graphic buttons. :-)
> 
> More people -- I think, will help get more topics, more discussion, and
> more beer. :-)
> 
> But how to do that?
> What interests other folks?
> What will entice you to meetings?
> What will convince you to bring a friend?
> What thoughts and ideas do folks have?
> What can you do to help?
> 
> 
> -Timo
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[jug-discussion] Group direction & ideas

2005-05-20 Thread Tim Colson \(tcolson\)
Hey gang -

Last month the in-person group was rather small. TR gave a good talk on
running Java from Oracle. We all know the group number varies...and some
times of the year or particular topics/speakers bring in a lot more
folks than others.

And there is also have a large 'virtual' contingent on the list... so
obviously speakers aren't a big draw for those folks right now.

I've been attending for a few years now, and I'd like to see TJUG evolve
and grow a bit. I'd love to have more people interested in attending the
meetings, and participating on the mailing list. 

I'm interested in all sorts of presentations topics from code to html
design to css to the Dark Side to C# to home theatre to animation to
decorated 2d graphic buttons. :-) 

More people -- I think, will help get more topics, more discussion, and
more beer. :-)

But how to do that? 
What interests other folks? 
What will entice you to meetings?
What will convince you to bring a friend? 
What thoughts and ideas do folks have?
What can you do to help?


-Timo


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