Re: [julia-users] Intel Xeon Phi support?
If you have access to ICC you could potentially use https://github.com/IntelLabs/ParallelAccelerator.jl and compile with ICC. But this will be pretty far out in the weeds so YMMV. On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 7:09 AM, Viral Shah wrote: > Phi is very unlikely, as there is no official LLVM support. Keno performed > some heroics, but not having real LLVM support was a major showstopper. > Julia is expected to work on KNL though, whenever it comes out. > > -viral > > On Tuesday, January 19, 2016 at 9:22:39 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Rackauckas > wrote: >> >> Any updates on Julia for the Phi? I know that MKL automatic offload >> works, but am looking for the whole thing. I do research in stochastic >> dynamical systems (easy to parallelize) and have a 5110 working, so I am >> ready to test it once Julia has it! >> >
Re: [julia-users] Intel Xeon Phi support?
Phi is very unlikely, as there is no official LLVM support. Keno performed some heroics, but not having real LLVM support was a major showstopper. Julia is expected to work on KNL though, whenever it comes out. -viral On Tuesday, January 19, 2016 at 9:22:39 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Rackauckas wrote: > > Any updates on Julia for the Phi? I know that MKL automatic offload works, > but am looking for the whole thing. I do research in stochastic dynamical > systems (easy to parallelize) and have a 5110 working, so I am ready to > test it once Julia has it! >
Re: [julia-users] Intel Xeon Phi support?
Any updates on Julia for the Phi? I know that MKL automatic offload works, but am looking for the whole thing. I do research in stochastic dynamical systems (easy to parallelize) and have a 5110 working, so I am ready to test it once Julia has it!
Re: [julia-users] Intel Xeon Phi support?
0.5 should be released around end of 2015, but there will be support on master before that. On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Jeff Waller wrote: > > > On Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 1:39:42 PM UTC-4, Stefan Karpinski wrote: >> >> I'm not sure what that would mean – CPUs don't ship with software. Julia >> will support Kinght's Landing, however, although it probably won't do so >> until version 0.5. >> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Karel Zapfe wrote: >> >>> Hello: >>> >>> Is it true then, that Knight's Landing will have Julia out-of-the-box? I >>> was checking the page of Intel, but found nothing to the respect. At my >>> laboratory we had some extra money, and were considering on getting one, >>> but the point is that none of us is really good at using fortran+mpi or >>> c+mpi, so with Julia most of us non-programers-but-researchers could have >>> hope of really using it. >>> >> > Knight's Landing is not supposed to be available until Q2 which strictly > speaking, I guess is just a couple of weeks but I would have expected to > see some big announce. Maybe it won't really be readily available with > (non-reference) motherboards until summer? do you expect dev 0.5 by say > July (kinda like last year)? >
Re: [julia-users] Intel Xeon Phi support?
Hello: Is it true then, that Knight's Landing will have Julia out-of-the-box? I was checking the page of Intel, but found nothing to the respect. At my laboratory we had some extra money, and were considering on getting one, but the point is that none of us is really good at using fortran+mpi or c+mpi, so with Julia most of us non-programers-but-researchers could have hope of really using it. El sábado, 8 de noviembre de 2014, 18:40:20 (UTC-6), John Drummond escribió: > > http://www.colfax-intl.com/nd/xeonphi/31s1p-promo.aspx is a link from a > distributor. Presumably Intel are trying to encourage the growth of the > use, also with knight's landing turning up and they made a lot of them. In > lots of 10 they're selling at 125 usd each. > > On Saturday, November 8, 2014 7:20:17 AM UTC, Jeff Waller wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, November 6, 2014 1:14:51 PM UTC-5, Viral Shah wrote: >>> >>> We had ordered a couple, but they are really difficult to get working. >>> There is a fair bit of compiler work that is required to get it to work - >>> so it is safe to assume that this is not coming anytime soon. However, the >>> Knight's Landing should work out of the box with Julia whenever it comes >>> and we will most likely have robust multi-threading support by then to >>> leverage it. >>> >> >> Aww! >> >> >>> >>> Out of curiosity, what would you like to run on the Xeon Phi? It may be >>> a good multi-threading benchmark for us in general. >>> >> >> Something that requires 1TFlop, or maybe 1000 things that take 1 GFlop? >> >> Hmm, how about realtime photogrammetry? >> >> >>> >>> -viral >>> >>> On Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:35:57 PM UTC+5:30, John Drummond wrote: Did you have any success? There's an offer of the cards for 200usd at the moment >>> >> That's like 1/10th the price? >> >> >
Re: [julia-users] Intel Xeon Phi support?
On Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 2:07:34 PM UTC-4, Viral Shah wrote: > > LLVM support for KNL is already in place. So yes, it will come quickly, > but in a released version of Julia, that is certainly no earlier than 0.5. > It is also quite likely that we need good multi-threading support to ensure > a good experience for KNL - which is also happening simultaneously. > > I am personally quite excited about the socketable KNL, and the > possibilities with Julia. > > -viral > You and me both. For though the Tesla will probably continue to enjoy some edge for Neural Networks, that's not the only thing going. Something balanced that marries deep leaning and traditional stuff is going to be a cool place to be.
Re: [julia-users] Intel Xeon Phi support?
LLVM support for KNL is already in place. So yes, it will come quickly, but in a released version of Julia, that is certainly no earlier than 0.5. It is also quite likely that we need good multi-threading support to ensure a good experience for KNL - which is also happening simultaneously. I am personally quite excited about the socketable KNL, and the possibilities with Julia. -viral > On 10-Mar-2015, at 11:34 pm, Stefan Karpinski wrote: > > 0.5 should be released around end of 2015, but there will be support on > master before that. > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Jeff Waller wrote: > > > On Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 1:39:42 PM UTC-4, Stefan Karpinski wrote: > I'm not sure what that would mean – CPUs don't ship with software. Julia will > support Kinght's Landing, however, although it probably won't do so until > version 0.5. > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Karel Zapfe wrote: > Hello: > > Is it true then, that Knight's Landing will have Julia out-of-the-box? I was > checking the page of Intel, but found nothing to the respect. At my > laboratory we had some extra money, and were considering on getting one, but > the point is that none of us is really good at using fortran+mpi or c+mpi, so > with Julia most of us non-programers-but-researchers could have hope of > really using it. > > Knight's Landing is not supposed to be available until Q2 which strictly > speaking, I guess is just a couple of weeks but I would have expected to see > some big announce. Maybe it won't really be readily available with > (non-reference) motherboards until summer? do you expect dev 0.5 by say July > (kinda like last year)? >
Re: [julia-users] Intel Xeon Phi support?
On Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 1:39:42 PM UTC-4, Stefan Karpinski wrote: > > I'm not sure what that would mean – CPUs don't ship with software. Julia > will support Kinght's Landing, however, although it probably won't do so > until version 0.5. > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Karel Zapfe > wrote: > >> Hello: >> >> Is it true then, that Knight's Landing will have Julia out-of-the-box? I >> was checking the page of Intel, but found nothing to the respect. At my >> laboratory we had some extra money, and were considering on getting one, >> but the point is that none of us is really good at using fortran+mpi or >> c+mpi, so with Julia most of us non-programers-but-researchers could have >> hope of really using it. >> > Knight's Landing is not supposed to be available until Q2 which strictly speaking, I guess is just a couple of weeks but I would have expected to see some big announce. Maybe it won't really be readily available with (non-reference) motherboards until summer? do you expect dev 0.5 by say July (kinda like last year)?
Re: [julia-users] Intel Xeon Phi support?
I'm not sure what that would mean – CPUs don't ship with software. Julia will support Kinght's Landing, however, although it probably won't do so until version 0.5. On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Karel Zapfe wrote: > Hello: > > Is it true then, that Knight's Landing will have Julia out-of-the-box? I > was checking the page of Intel, but found nothing to the respect. At my > laboratory we had some extra money, and were considering on getting one, > but the point is that none of us is really good at using fortran+mpi or > c+mpi, so with Julia most of us non-programers-but-researchers could have > hope of really using it. > > El sábado, 8 de noviembre de 2014, 18:40:20 (UTC-6), John Drummond > escribió: > >> http://www.colfax-intl.com/nd/xeonphi/31s1p-promo.aspx is a link from a >> distributor. Presumably Intel are trying to encourage the growth of the >> use, also with knight's landing turning up and they made a lot of them. In >> lots of 10 they're selling at 125 usd each. >> >> On Saturday, November 8, 2014 7:20:17 AM UTC, Jeff Waller wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, November 6, 2014 1:14:51 PM UTC-5, Viral Shah wrote: We had ordered a couple, but they are really difficult to get working. There is a fair bit of compiler work that is required to get it to work - so it is safe to assume that this is not coming anytime soon. However, the Knight's Landing should work out of the box with Julia whenever it comes and we will most likely have robust multi-threading support by then to leverage it. >>> >>> Aww! >>> >>> Out of curiosity, what would you like to run on the Xeon Phi? It may be a good multi-threading benchmark for us in general. >>> >>> Something that requires 1TFlop, or maybe 1000 things that take 1 GFlop? >>> >>> Hmm, how about realtime photogrammetry? >>> >>> -viral On Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:35:57 PM UTC+5:30, John Drummond wrote: > > Did you have any success? > There's an offer of the cards for 200usd at the moment > >>> That's like 1/10th the price? >>> >>> >>
Re: [julia-users] Intel Xeon Phi support?
http://www.colfax-intl.com/nd/xeonphi/31s1p-promo.aspx is a link from a distributor. Presumably Intel are trying to encourage the growth of the use, also with knight's landing turning up and they made a lot of them. In lots of 10 they're selling at 125 usd each. On Saturday, November 8, 2014 7:20:17 AM UTC, Jeff Waller wrote: > > > > On Thursday, November 6, 2014 1:14:51 PM UTC-5, Viral Shah wrote: >> >> We had ordered a couple, but they are really difficult to get working. >> There is a fair bit of compiler work that is required to get it to work - >> so it is safe to assume that this is not coming anytime soon. However, the >> Knight's Landing should work out of the box with Julia whenever it comes >> and we will most likely have robust multi-threading support by then to >> leverage it. >> > > Aww! > > >> >> Out of curiosity, what would you like to run on the Xeon Phi? It may be a >> good multi-threading benchmark for us in general. >> > > Something that requires 1TFlop, or maybe 1000 things that take 1 GFlop? > > Hmm, how about realtime photogrammetry? > > >> >> -viral >> >> On Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:35:57 PM UTC+5:30, John Drummond wrote: >>> >>> Did you have any success? >>> There's an offer of the cards for 200usd at the moment >>> >> > That's like 1/10th the price? > >
Re: [julia-users] Intel Xeon Phi support?
On Thursday, November 6, 2014 1:14:51 PM UTC-5, Viral Shah wrote: > > We had ordered a couple, but they are really difficult to get working. > There is a fair bit of compiler work that is required to get it to work - > so it is safe to assume that this is not coming anytime soon. However, the > Knight's Landing should work out of the box with Julia whenever it comes > and we will most likely have robust multi-threading support by then to > leverage it. > Aww! > > Out of curiosity, what would you like to run on the Xeon Phi? It may be a > good multi-threading benchmark for us in general. > Something that requires 1TFlop, or maybe 1000 things that take 1 GFlop? Hmm, how about realtime photogrammetry? > > -viral > > On Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:35:57 PM UTC+5:30, John Drummond wrote: >> >> Did you have any success? >> There's an offer of the cards for 200usd at the moment >> > That's like 1/10th the price? >>>
Re: [julia-users] Intel Xeon Phi support?
In the short term some options calculations, some other monte carlo calculations. They're all ridiculously parallel. i.e for a whole lot of client data what does a population of simulated clients look like having had the same trades, one by one. I'd have to do a whole lot of anonymisation to hand it out. At the moment I farm it out over some servers - I was wondering about ways to speed it up hence wondering about the xeon phi. The "really difficult to get working" looks depressing. Maybe I stick it on ebay and wait for Knight's Landing I see Stac are working with someone to have a Julia benchmark - that would be more authoritative. Thanks. Kind Regards, John. On Thursday, November 6, 2014 6:14:51 PM UTC, Viral Shah wrote: > > We had ordered a couple, but they are really difficult to get working. > There is a fair bit of compiler work that is required to get it to work - > so it is safe to assume that this is not coming anytime soon. However, the > Knight's Landing should work out of the box with Julia whenever it comes > and we will most likely have robust multi-threading support by then to > leverage it. > > Out of curiosity, what would you like to run on the Xeon Phi? It may be a > good multi-threading benchmark for us in general. > > -viral > > On Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:35:57 PM UTC+5:30, John Drummond wrote: >> >> Did you have any success? >> There's an offer of the cards for 200usd at the moment >> >> https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/special-promotion-intel-xeon-phi-coprocessor-31s1p >> so I was going to pick one up >> Kind Regards, John. >> On Monday, May 12, 2014 4:45:32 PM UTC+1, Stefan Karpinski wrote: >>> >>> Not that I'm aware of, but we're going to take a crack at this over the >>> summer, so there should be some progress here in the relatively near future. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Nikolaos wrote: >>> Hi, Has anyone tried to configure and run julia on an intel xeon phi coprocessor? Any hints would be very helpful , how to run parallel on intel's phi cores. Thank you. >>> >>>
Re: [julia-users] Intel Xeon Phi support?
We had ordered a couple, but they are really difficult to get working. There is a fair bit of compiler work that is required to get it to work - so it is safe to assume that this is not coming anytime soon. However, the Knight's Landing should work out of the box with Julia whenever it comes and we will most likely have robust multi-threading support by then to leverage it. Out of curiosity, what would you like to run on the Xeon Phi? It may be a good multi-threading benchmark for us in general. -viral On Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:35:57 PM UTC+5:30, John Drummond wrote: > > Did you have any success? > There's an offer of the cards for 200usd at the moment > > https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/special-promotion-intel-xeon-phi-coprocessor-31s1p > so I was going to pick one up > Kind Regards, John. > On Monday, May 12, 2014 4:45:32 PM UTC+1, Stefan Karpinski wrote: >> >> Not that I'm aware of, but we're going to take a crack at this over the >> summer, so there should be some progress here in the relatively near future. >> >> >> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Nikolaos wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Has anyone tried to configure and run julia on an intel xeon phi >>> coprocessor? >>> Any hints would be very helpful , how to run parallel on intel's phi >>> cores. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >> >>
Re: [julia-users] Intel Xeon Phi support?
Did you have any success? There's an offer of the cards for 200usd at the moment https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/special-promotion-intel-xeon-phi-coprocessor-31s1p so I was going to pick one up Kind Regards, John. On Monday, May 12, 2014 4:45:32 PM UTC+1, Stefan Karpinski wrote: > > Not that I'm aware of, but we're going to take a crack at this over the > summer, so there should be some progress here in the relatively near future. > > > On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Nikolaos > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Has anyone tried to configure and run julia on an intel xeon phi >> coprocessor? >> Any hints would be very helpful , how to run parallel on intel's phi >> cores. >> >> Thank you. >> > >
Re: [julia-users] Intel Xeon Phi support?
Obviously not "pure" julia but you can take advantage of the Phi from julia using Intel's OpenCL compiler. It would be cool to spin up 60 julia instances and do some message passing programing, event with the overhead. I wonder how well LLVM is able to take advantage of the Phi's extra wide SIMD instruction set. Best, Jake On Monday, May 12, 2014 11:45:32 AM UTC-4, Stefan Karpinski wrote: > > Not that I'm aware of, but we're going to take a crack at this over the > summer, so there should be some progress here in the relatively near future. > > > On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Nikolaos > > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Has anyone tried to configure and run julia on an intel xeon phi >> coprocessor? >> Any hints would be very helpful , how to run parallel on intel's phi >> cores. >> >> Thank you. >> > >
Re: [julia-users] Intel Xeon Phi support?
Not that I'm aware of, but we're going to take a crack at this over the summer, so there should be some progress here in the relatively near future. On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Nikolaos wrote: > Hi, > > Has anyone tried to configure and run julia on an intel xeon phi > coprocessor? > Any hints would be very helpful , how to run parallel on intel's phi cores. > > Thank you. >
[julia-users] Intel Xeon Phi support?
Hi, Has anyone tried to configure and run julia on an intel xeon phi coprocessor? Any hints would be very helpful , how to run parallel on intel's phi cores. Thank you.
