Re: [j-nsp] Junos MX series and Andrisoft Flow tools

2015-03-03 Thread Toni Mattila

Hi,

On 25-Jan-15 23:34, John Brown wrote:

I'm looking for advise on configuring our MX480 (Junos 12.3R4.6) to support
IPFIX flows for Andrisoft's WanGuard flow based tools.  They only have
samples for M series and that C company.


Coming back to this old thread. I've been evaluating Andrisoft's 
WANGuard and they today fixed in latest software that bug with flow 
active timeouts.


So with 13.3R5.9 and MX104 I get now all the flows accounted.

Cheers,
Toni


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Re: [j-nsp] Junos MX series and Andrisoft Flow tools

2015-01-26 Thread Raphael Mazelier

I'm testing wanguard with my mx.
The product is interresting, not perfect, but interresting.

I'm not using inline ipfix, but software flow with the below 
configuration :



sampling {
input {
rate 1000;
}
family inet {
output {
flow-server 15.5.17.7 {
port 5678;
source-address 15.5.17.10;
version 5;
}
}
}
}

with Flow protocol : Netflow v5,v7 or v9, IPFIX.

The wanguard documentation specifie that if we are using juniper and 
ipfix, we habe to choose Flow protocol IPFIX with flows Timeout.



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Le 26/01/15 05:29, Jordan Whited a écrit :

If clocks are sync’d my best guess would be that your active and/or inactive 
flow timeouts are longer than what is configured on the collector and it 
doesn’t like that.

Try making them match the collector and if that doesn’t work make the MX 
timeouts slightly shorter.

http://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junos12.3/topics/task/configuration/services-ipfix-flow-template-flow-aggregation-configuring.html
 
http://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junos12.3/topics/task/configuration/services-ipfix-flow-template-flow-aggregation-configuring.html




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Re: [j-nsp] Junos MX series and Andrisoft Flow tools

2015-01-26 Thread Raphael Mazelier



Le 26/01/15 16:03, John Brown a écrit :

Hi Raphael,   I curious as why you are using software flow. I thought
the inline was better from a performance perspective on the router..



Bad experience with inline jflow on mx80, and also inline ipfix is a bit 
buggy, missing some field. It seems that juniper have fixed this on 
higher release, but I m happy with software flow for now.


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Re: [j-nsp] Junos MX series and Andrisoft Flow tools

2015-01-26 Thread John Brown
Hi Raphael,   I curious as why you are using software flow. I thought
the inline was better from a performance perspective on the router..

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:45 AM, Raphael Mazelier r...@futomaki.net wrote:
 I'm testing wanguard with my mx.
 The product is interresting, not perfect, but interresting.

 I'm not using inline ipfix, but software flow with the below configuration :


 sampling {
 input {
 rate 1000;
 }
 family inet {
 output {
 flow-server 15.5.17.7 {
 port 5678;
 source-address 15.5.17.10;
 version 5;
 }
 }
 }
 }

 with Flow protocol : Netflow v5,v7 or v9, IPFIX.

 The wanguard documentation specifie that if we are using juniper and ipfix,
 we habe to choose Flow protocol IPFIX with flows Timeout.


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 AS39605


 Le 26/01/15 05:29, Jordan Whited a écrit :

 If clocks are sync’d my best guess would be that your active and/or
 inactive flow timeouts are longer than what is configured on the collector
 and it doesn’t like that.

 Try making them match the collector and if that doesn’t work make the MX
 timeouts slightly shorter.


 http://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junos12.3/topics/task/configuration/services-ipfix-flow-template-flow-aggregation-configuring.html
 http://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junos12.3/topics/task/configuration/services-ipfix-flow-template-flow-aggregation-configuring.html



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Re: [j-nsp] Junos MX series and Andrisoft Flow tools

2015-01-26 Thread sthaug
  Hi Raphael,   I curious as why you are using software flow. I thought
  the inline was better from a performance perspective on the router..
 
 
 Bad experience with inline jflow on mx80, and also inline ipfix is a bit 
 buggy, missing some field. It seems that juniper have fixed this on 
 higher release, but I m happy with software flow for now.

As far as I know the software version cannot do IPfix.

Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no
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Re: [j-nsp] Junos MX series and Andrisoft Flow tools

2015-01-26 Thread Raphael Mazelier



Le 26/01/15 17:19, sth...@nethelp.no a écrit :


As far as I know the software version cannot do IPfix.



Yes, software flow are jflow or cflow v5.

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Re: [j-nsp] Junos MX series and Andrisoft Flow tools

2015-01-26 Thread Eduardo Schoedler
Not inline j-flow will kill your box.

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2015-01-26 13:03 GMT-02:00 John Brown j...@citylinkfiber.com:

 Hi Raphael,   I curious as why you are using software flow. I thought
 the inline was better from a performance perspective on the router..

 On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:45 AM, Raphael Mazelier r...@futomaki.net
 wrote:
  I'm testing wanguard with my mx.
  The product is interresting, not perfect, but interresting.
 
  I'm not using inline ipfix, but software flow with the below
 configuration :
 
 
  sampling {
  input {
  rate 1000;
  }
  family inet {
  output {
  flow-server 15.5.17.7 {
  port 5678;
  source-address 15.5.17.10;
  version 5;
  }
  }
  }
  }
 
  with Flow protocol : Netflow v5,v7 or v9, IPFIX.
 
  The wanguard documentation specifie that if we are using juniper and
 ipfix,
  we habe to choose Flow protocol IPFIX with flows Timeout.
 
 
  --
  Raphael Mazelier
  AS39605
 
 
  Le 26/01/15 05:29, Jordan Whited a écrit :
 
  If clocks are sync’d my best guess would be that your active and/or
  inactive flow timeouts are longer than what is configured on the
 collector
  and it doesn’t like that.
 
  Try making them match the collector and if that doesn’t work make the MX
  timeouts slightly shorter.
 
 
 
 http://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junos12.3/topics/task/configuration/services-ipfix-flow-template-flow-aggregation-configuring.html
  
 http://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junos12.3/topics/task/configuration/services-ipfix-flow-template-flow-aggregation-configuring.html
 
 

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Re: [j-nsp] Junos MX series and Andrisoft Flow tools

2015-01-26 Thread sthaug
  As far as I know the software version cannot do IPfix.
 
 Yes, software flow are jflow or cflow v5.

Both the limited sample rate and the fact that the software/V5
version is limited to IPv4 only means that for some of us it is
simply not an alternative.

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Re: [j-nsp] Junos MX series and Andrisoft Flow tools

2015-01-25 Thread Jordan Whited
If clocks are sync’d my best guess would be that your active and/or inactive 
flow timeouts are longer than what is configured on the collector and it 
doesn’t like that.

Try making them match the collector and if that doesn’t work make the MX 
timeouts slightly shorter.

http://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junos12.3/topics/task/configuration/services-ipfix-flow-template-flow-aggregation-configuring.html
 
http://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junos12.3/topics/task/configuration/services-ipfix-flow-template-flow-aggregation-configuring.html


 On Jan 25, 2015, at 11:15 PM, John Brown j...@citylinkfiber.com wrote:
 
 Hi Paul,
 
 Yes all devices sync to the same internal NTP servers and are set for
 the same TZ.
 
 On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 8:40 PM, Paul S. cont...@winterei.se wrote:
 Just as a thought, do both systems have time synchronized with something
 like ntp?
 
 I've found that it helps to use the same timezone on the system hosting
 WANGuard as well as the routers (You should technically be using UTC anyway)
 
 On 1/26/2015 午前 06:34, John Brown wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm looking for advise on configuring our MX480 (Junos 12.3R4.6) to
 support
 IPFIX flows for Andrisoft's WanGuard flow based tools.  They only have
 samples for M series and that C company.
 
 I'm getting some errors on the Andrisoft console that make me wonder if I
 have things set right.
 
 The MX is feeding multiple 10Gig links and a pile of 1 Gig links, both
 IPv4
 and IPv6
 
 Many thanks for pointers and help
 
 here is the error I get on the Andrisoft console
 Wrong flow timeout settings! Received flow from 391 seconds in the past!
 16
 flows discarded
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Re: [j-nsp] Junos MX series and Andrisoft Flow tools

2015-01-25 Thread Paul S.
Just as a thought, do both systems have time synchronized with something 
like ntp?


I've found that it helps to use the same timezone on the system hosting 
WANGuard as well as the routers (You should technically be using UTC anyway)


On 1/26/2015 午前 06:34, John Brown wrote:

Hi,

I'm looking for advise on configuring our MX480 (Junos 12.3R4.6) to support
IPFIX flows for Andrisoft's WanGuard flow based tools.  They only have
samples for M series and that C company.

I'm getting some errors on the Andrisoft console that make me wonder if I
have things set right.

The MX is feeding multiple 10Gig links and a pile of 1 Gig links, both IPv4
and IPv6

Many thanks for pointers and help

here is the error I get on the Andrisoft console
Wrong flow timeout settings! Received flow from 391 seconds in the past! 16
flows discarded
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Re: [j-nsp] Junos MX series and Andrisoft Flow tools

2015-01-25 Thread John Brown
Hi Paul,

Yes all devices sync to the same internal NTP servers and are set for
the same TZ.

On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 8:40 PM, Paul S. cont...@winterei.se wrote:
 Just as a thought, do both systems have time synchronized with something
 like ntp?

 I've found that it helps to use the same timezone on the system hosting
 WANGuard as well as the routers (You should technically be using UTC anyway)

 On 1/26/2015 午前 06:34, John Brown wrote:

 Hi,

 I'm looking for advise on configuring our MX480 (Junos 12.3R4.6) to
 support
 IPFIX flows for Andrisoft's WanGuard flow based tools.  They only have
 samples for M series and that C company.

 I'm getting some errors on the Andrisoft console that make me wonder if I
 have things set right.

 The MX is feeding multiple 10Gig links and a pile of 1 Gig links, both
 IPv4
 and IPv6

 Many thanks for pointers and help

 here is the error I get on the Andrisoft console
 Wrong flow timeout settings! Received flow from 391 seconds in the past!
 16
 flows discarded
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[j-nsp] Junos MX series and Andrisoft Flow tools

2015-01-25 Thread John Brown
Hi,

I'm looking for advise on configuring our MX480 (Junos 12.3R4.6) to support
IPFIX flows for Andrisoft's WanGuard flow based tools.  They only have
samples for M series and that C company.

I'm getting some errors on the Andrisoft console that make me wonder if I
have things set right.

The MX is feeding multiple 10Gig links and a pile of 1 Gig links, both IPv4
and IPv6

Many thanks for pointers and help

here is the error I get on the Andrisoft console
Wrong flow timeout settings! Received flow from 391 seconds in the past! 16
flows discarded
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