Re: [jupyter] Planning to shutdown tmpnb.org in favor of mybinder.org

2017-12-21 Thread Fernando Perez
+1 to retiring tmpnb from me too. tmpnb was a key inspiration and early
source of implementation for binder, so the progression is more than
natural.

Cheers

f

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Re: [jupyter] Planning to shutdown tmpnb.org in favor of mybinder.org

2017-12-21 Thread Damián Avila
>  This is what we do on the nbviewer homepage, and I think it's a good
idea to do the same for Binder

+1 on this one.

2017-12-21 7:19 GMT-03:00 Thomas Kluyver :

> Automatically showcasing popular binders brings up some possible
> complications like that, but a manually curated list doesn't. This is what
> we do on the nbviewer homepage, and I think it's a good idea to do the same
> for Binder, whether it's on the mybinder.org homepage or elsewhere.
>
> On 21 December 2017 at 09:34, Matthias Bussonnier <
> bussonniermatth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> +1 to retiring tmpnb.
>>
>> Let's not add features, especially since "popular" binders could expose
>> "secret" gist repository, add complexity and require us to add state to
>> binder.
>>
>> On Dec 20, 2017 18:02, "Brian Granger"  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the update Min, this sounds like a good plan. What about
>>> building a page on mybinder.org with featured or popular repos, and
>>> just directly forward try.jupyter.org there?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 7:54 AM, MinRK  wrote:
>>> > tmpnb.org powers https://try.jupyter.org, and is a lightweight
>>> service for
>>> > temporary notebook servers. However, tmpnb gets a lot less light as the
>>> > number of users grows, and the scope of what we want to demo grows.
>>> Since
>>> > tmpnb only allows serving a single repo, we’ve had to build an enormous
>>> > kitchen-sink docker image with everything we want to demo. This is not
>>> > sustainable, and keeping tmpnb.org up isn’t really working anymore.
>>> With the
>>> > new Binder up and running, there is a better avenue for demoing
>>> Jupyter use
>>> > cases that doesn’t require trying to build a one-size-fits-all demo.
>>> >
>>> > Our plan is to update the try.jupyter.org page to be a set of links to
>>> > Binder repos demoing Jupyter, and shutdown the tmpnb.org service.
>>> This will
>>> > involve:
>>> >
>>> > creating a few binderable repos for demoing Jupyter
>>> > making try.jupyter.org a landing page pointing to a few selected demo
>>> repos
>>> > on Binder
>>> > shutting down tmpnb.org
>>> > putting the docker-demo-images repo in the attic, since people who
>>> want to
>>> > demo their own work can now create Binders instead of adding to the
>>> big demo
>>> > image.
>>> >
>>> > See the GitHub Issue for further planning.
>>> >
>>> > We don’t have a timeframe for this yet, but if you are relying on
>>> tmpnb.org
>>> > for anything let us know. The odds are that Binder can already serve
>>> you
>>> > better than tmpnb does right now.
>>> >
>>> > -Min
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Re: [jupyter] Planning to shutdown tmpnb.org in favor of mybinder.org

2017-12-21 Thread Thomas Kluyver
Automatically showcasing popular binders brings up some possible
complications like that, but a manually curated list doesn't. This is what
we do on the nbviewer homepage, and I think it's a good idea to do the same
for Binder, whether it's on the mybinder.org homepage or elsewhere.

On 21 December 2017 at 09:34, Matthias Bussonnier <
bussonniermatth...@gmail.com> wrote:

> +1 to retiring tmpnb.
>
> Let's not add features, especially since "popular" binders could expose
> "secret" gist repository, add complexity and require us to add state to
> binder.
>
> On Dec 20, 2017 18:02, "Brian Granger"  wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the update Min, this sounds like a good plan. What about
>> building a page on mybinder.org with featured or popular repos, and
>> just directly forward try.jupyter.org there?
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 7:54 AM, MinRK  wrote:
>> > tmpnb.org powers https://try.jupyter.org, and is a lightweight service
>> for
>> > temporary notebook servers. However, tmpnb gets a lot less light as the
>> > number of users grows, and the scope of what we want to demo grows.
>> Since
>> > tmpnb only allows serving a single repo, we’ve had to build an enormous
>> > kitchen-sink docker image with everything we want to demo. This is not
>> > sustainable, and keeping tmpnb.org up isn’t really working anymore.
>> With the
>> > new Binder up and running, there is a better avenue for demoing Jupyter
>> use
>> > cases that doesn’t require trying to build a one-size-fits-all demo.
>> >
>> > Our plan is to update the try.jupyter.org page to be a set of links to
>> > Binder repos demoing Jupyter, and shutdown the tmpnb.org service. This
>> will
>> > involve:
>> >
>> > creating a few binderable repos for demoing Jupyter
>> > making try.jupyter.org a landing page pointing to a few selected demo
>> repos
>> > on Binder
>> > shutting down tmpnb.org
>> > putting the docker-demo-images repo in the attic, since people who want
>> to
>> > demo their own work can now create Binders instead of adding to the big
>> demo
>> > image.
>> >
>> > See the GitHub Issue for further planning.
>> >
>> > We don’t have a timeframe for this yet, but if you are relying on
>> tmpnb.org
>> > for anything let us know. The odds are that Binder can already serve you
>> > better than tmpnb does right now.
>> >
>> > -Min
>> >
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Re: [jupyter] Planning to shutdown tmpnb.org in favor of mybinder.org

2017-12-21 Thread Matthias Bussonnier
+1 to retiring tmpnb.

Let's not add features, especially since "popular" binders could expose
"secret" gist repository, add complexity and require us to add state to
binder.

On Dec 20, 2017 18:02, "Brian Granger"  wrote:

> Thanks for the update Min, this sounds like a good plan. What about
> building a page on mybinder.org with featured or popular repos, and
> just directly forward try.jupyter.org there?
>
> On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 7:54 AM, MinRK  wrote:
> > tmpnb.org powers https://try.jupyter.org, and is a lightweight service
> for
> > temporary notebook servers. However, tmpnb gets a lot less light as the
> > number of users grows, and the scope of what we want to demo grows. Since
> > tmpnb only allows serving a single repo, we’ve had to build an enormous
> > kitchen-sink docker image with everything we want to demo. This is not
> > sustainable, and keeping tmpnb.org up isn’t really working anymore.
> With the
> > new Binder up and running, there is a better avenue for demoing Jupyter
> use
> > cases that doesn’t require trying to build a one-size-fits-all demo.
> >
> > Our plan is to update the try.jupyter.org page to be a set of links to
> > Binder repos demoing Jupyter, and shutdown the tmpnb.org service. This
> will
> > involve:
> >
> > creating a few binderable repos for demoing Jupyter
> > making try.jupyter.org a landing page pointing to a few selected demo
> repos
> > on Binder
> > shutting down tmpnb.org
> > putting the docker-demo-images repo in the attic, since people who want
> to
> > demo their own work can now create Binders instead of adding to the big
> demo
> > image.
> >
> > See the GitHub Issue for further planning.
> >
> > We don’t have a timeframe for this yet, but if you are relying on
> tmpnb.org
> > for anything let us know. The odds are that Binder can already serve you
> > better than tmpnb does right now.
> >
> > -Min
> >
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[jupyter] Planning to shutdown tmpnb.org in favor of mybinder.org

2017-12-20 Thread MinRK
tmpnb.org powers https://try.jupyter.org, and is a lightweight service for
temporary notebook servers. However, tmpnb gets a lot less light as the
number of users grows, and the scope of what we want to demo grows. Since
tmpnb only allows serving a single repo, we’ve had to build an
enormous kitchen-sink
docker image  with
everything we want to demo. This is not sustainable, and keeping tmpnb.org
up isn’t really working anymore. With the new Binder 
up and running, there is a better avenue for demoing Jupyter use cases that
doesn’t require trying to build a one-size-fits-all demo.

Our plan is to update the try.jupyter.org page to be a set of links to
Binder repos demoing Jupyter, and shutdown the tmpnb.org service. This will
involve:

   - creating a few binderable repos for demoing Jupyter
   - making try.jupyter.org a landing page pointing to a few selected demo
   repos on Binder
   - shutting down tmpnb.org
   - putting the docker-demo-images repo in the attic, since people who
   want to demo their own work can now create Binders instead of adding to the
   big demo image.

See the GitHub Issue 
for further planning.

We don’t have a timeframe for this yet, but if you are relying on tmpnb.org
for anything let us know. The odds are that Binder can already serve you
better than tmpnb does right now.

-Min
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