Re: [jupyter] Re: Formalizing preparing a release

2017-02-21 Thread JamieW
Thanks Min. Mentioning me in the issue- even though a human step- seems to 
be working so far. I'm also performing a periodic sweep for issues with 
"Release" in the title and adding these issues to the Jupyter Org's GitHub 
Projects trial release calendar 
: https://github.com/orgs/jupyter/projects/4. This only covers releases 
posted in the Jupyter Org and not other orgs. 
 
Looking forward to finding ways to automagically track releases across 
orgs! = )

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Re: [jupyter] Re: Formalizing preparing a release

2017-02-21 Thread Brian Granger
Thanks for the update, sounds good!

On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 12:24 PM, MinRK  wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 8:01 PM, Brian Granger  wrote:
>>
>> I teach during the dev meetings this quarter. Was a decision reached on
>> this?
>
>
> We didn't formalise a process, but we did come up with a few things:
>
> 1. open an Issue on the package's repo to track preparing for a large
> release, tagging Jamie for project management
> 2. solicit input / testing on the mailing list
> 3. keep the process light for the smaller releases and repos
>
> -Min
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 2:51 AM, MinRK  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Thomas Kluyver 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I'm assuming it's already automated? I also like that page; I have
>> >> trouble
>> >> remembering the release status of different projects.
>> >
>> >
>> > The page is updated automatically. The only thing that's not automated
>> > is
>> > the list of repos, which it could get programmatically by checking for
>> > all
>> > repos on our orgs that have at least one tag.
>> >
>> > -Min
>> >
>> >>
>> >> On 10 February 2017 at 22:35, Jason Grout  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> It would be great if we could automate that page showing unreleased
>> >>> commits in each project. I really like that.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 10:06 AM MinRK  wrote:
>> 
>>  I made this PR earlier this week to get ready to release jupyter-core
>>  4.3. It is a tiny release (add support for one environment variable).
>>  Is
>>  there anything more that I should do before cutting that release?
>> 
>>  I just opened this issue for releasing jupyter-client 5.0. It is a
>>  major
>>  version bump due to a technically backward-incompatible change
>>  (timezone-aware datetime objects), but it is still a ‘small’ release,
>>  since
>>  that is in a feature that is rarely used (only in IPython parallel,
>>  to my
>>  knowledge, which already supports the changes in master). Should I
>>  open an
>>  issue on project-mgt about this?
>> 
>>  I think a release calendar is tough for many repos, as most won’t
>>  have
>>  planned releases until a certain amount of changes have been
>>  accumulated.
>>  Communicating upcoming major releases for the bigger user-facing
>>  projects
>>  (notebook, ipython, nbconvert) is definitely important. The mailing
>>  list
>>  seems like the most logical place to signal "We're trying to get
>>  ready for
>>  release, please help with extra testing, catching regressions, etc."
>>  that
>>  should catch people who don't follow GitHub issues.
>> 
>>  I made this page as an exercise a while ago, which summarizes how
>>  much
>>  we have that’s unreleased. It doesn’t give an indicator of how close
>>  we are
>>  to any given release, but it does (roughly) indicate how much we have
>>  unreleased, which can be used as a reminder to start pushing toward a
>>  release, especially on the easily forgotten smaller repos.
>> 
>>  -Min
>> 
>>  On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 2:59 AM, Steven Silvester
>>   wrote:
>> >
>> > I like the idea of handling the tracking and coordination on the
>> > https://github.com/jupyter/project-mgt and having a snapshot in the
>> > weekly
>> > dev meeting report as well.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 9:12:24 PM UTC-6, Matthias
>> > Bussonnier
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hello all,
>> >>
>> >> It recently came to the attention to some of us that with the
>> >> increasing number of projects we have it can be hard to follow when
>> >> packages are going to be released, which often leads to very short
>> >> windows of time to give feedback or test the new version with
>> >> existing
>> >> software.
>> >>
>> >> For example, several developers were surprised yesterday with the
>> >> announcement of an upcoming notebook 5.0 release, and are now
>> >> struggling to catch up on what is new and to test their
>> >> plugins/extensions. There are likely others in the community who
>> >> did
>> >> not realize the 5.0 release was so close, who would need some time
>> >> to
>> >> test their extensions/plugins and give feedback.
>> >>
>> >> How would the team and everyone else feel if we encouraged Jupyter
>> >> projects to open an issue when a major release started to take
>> >> shape
>> >> which clearly listed the planned schedule for the release and
>> >> highlighted what was new in the release? The upcoming release and
>> >> this
>> >> issue would be announced on the mailing list. People interested in
>> >> following the release updates could 

Re: [jupyter] Re: Formalizing preparing a release

2017-02-19 Thread Brian Granger
I teach during the dev meetings this quarter. Was a decision reached on this?

On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 2:51 AM, MinRK  wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Thomas Kluyver  wrote:
>>
>> I'm assuming it's already automated? I also like that page; I have trouble
>> remembering the release status of different projects.
>
>
> The page is updated automatically. The only thing that's not automated is
> the list of repos, which it could get programmatically by checking for all
> repos on our orgs that have at least one tag.
>
> -Min
>
>>
>> On 10 February 2017 at 22:35, Jason Grout  wrote:
>>>
>>> It would be great if we could automate that page showing unreleased
>>> commits in each project. I really like that.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 10:06 AM MinRK  wrote:

 I made this PR earlier this week to get ready to release jupyter-core
 4.3. It is a tiny release (add support for one environment variable). Is
 there anything more that I should do before cutting that release?

 I just opened this issue for releasing jupyter-client 5.0. It is a major
 version bump due to a technically backward-incompatible change
 (timezone-aware datetime objects), but it is still a ‘small’ release, since
 that is in a feature that is rarely used (only in IPython parallel, to my
 knowledge, which already supports the changes in master). Should I open an
 issue on project-mgt about this?

 I think a release calendar is tough for many repos, as most won’t have
 planned releases until a certain amount of changes have been accumulated.
 Communicating upcoming major releases for the bigger user-facing projects
 (notebook, ipython, nbconvert) is definitely important. The mailing list
 seems like the most logical place to signal "We're trying to get ready for
 release, please help with extra testing, catching regressions, etc." that
 should catch people who don't follow GitHub issues.

 I made this page as an exercise a while ago, which summarizes how much
 we have that’s unreleased. It doesn’t give an indicator of how close we are
 to any given release, but it does (roughly) indicate how much we have
 unreleased, which can be used as a reminder to start pushing toward a
 release, especially on the easily forgotten smaller repos.

 -Min

 On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 2:59 AM, Steven Silvester
  wrote:
>
> I like the idea of handling the tracking and coordination on the
> https://github.com/jupyter/project-mgt and having a snapshot in the weekly
> dev meeting report as well.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 9:12:24 PM UTC-6, Matthias Bussonnier
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> It recently came to the attention to some of us that with the
>> increasing number of projects we have it can be hard to follow when
>> packages are going to be released, which often leads to very short
>> windows of time to give feedback or test the new version with existing
>> software.
>>
>> For example, several developers were surprised yesterday with the
>> announcement of an upcoming notebook 5.0 release, and are now
>> struggling to catch up on what is new and to test their
>> plugins/extensions. There are likely others in the community who did
>> not realize the 5.0 release was so close, who would need some time to
>> test their extensions/plugins and give feedback.
>>
>> How would the team and everyone else feel if we encouraged Jupyter
>> projects to open an issue when a major release started to take shape
>> which clearly listed the planned schedule for the release and
>> highlighted what was new in the release? The upcoming release and this
>> issue would be announced on the mailing list. People interested in
>> following the release updates could subscribe to this issue.
>>
>> That would be of course on a per-project/per-maintainer basis, but the
>> project would try  to encourage it for major releases, or maybe even
>> minor releases.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> Matthias, with the help of Jamie, Jason, Brian and Fernando.
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Re: [jupyter] Re: Formalizing preparing a release

2017-02-13 Thread MinRK
On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Thomas Kluyver  wrote:

> I'm assuming it's already automated? I also like that page; I have trouble
> remembering the release status of different projects.
>

The page is updated automatically. The only thing that's not automated is
the list of repos, which it could get programmatically by checking for all
repos on our orgs that have at least one tag.

-Min


> On 10 February 2017 at 22:35, Jason Grout  wrote:
>
>> It would be great if we could automate that page showing unreleased
>> commits in each project. I really like that.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 10:06 AM MinRK  wrote:
>>
>>> I made this PR 
>>> earlier this week to get ready to release jupyter-core 4.3. It is a tiny
>>> release (add support for one environment variable). Is there anything more
>>> that I should do before cutting that release?
>>>
>>> I just opened this issue
>>>  for releasing
>>> jupyter-client 5.0. It is a major version bump due to a technically
>>> backward-incompatible change (timezone-aware datetime objects), but it is
>>> still a ‘small’ release, since that is in a feature that is rarely used
>>> (only in IPython parallel, to my knowledge, which already supports the
>>> changes in master). Should I open an issue on project-mgt about this?
>>>
>>> I think a release calendar is tough for many repos, as most won’t have
>>> planned releases until a certain amount of changes have been accumulated.
>>> Communicating upcoming major releases for the bigger user-facing projects
>>> (notebook, ipython, nbconvert) is definitely important. The mailing list
>>> seems like the most logical place to signal "We're trying to get ready for
>>> release, please help with extra testing, catching regressions, etc." that
>>> should catch people who don't follow GitHub issues.
>>>
>>> I made this page  as an exercise a
>>> while ago, which summarizes how much we have that’s unreleased. It doesn’t
>>> give an indicator of how close we are to any given release, but it does
>>> (roughly) indicate how much we have unreleased, which can be used as a
>>> reminder to start pushing toward a release, especially on the easily
>>> forgotten smaller repos.
>>>
>>> -Min
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 2:59 AM, Steven Silvester <
>>> ssilves...@continuum.io> wrote:
>>>
>>> I like the idea of handling the tracking and coordination on the
>>> https://github.com/jupyter/project-mgt and having a snapshot in the
>>> weekly dev meeting report as well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 9:12:24 PM UTC-6, Matthias Bussonnier
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> It recently came to the attention to some of us that with the
>>> increasing number of projects we have it can be hard to follow when
>>> packages are going to be released, which often leads to very short
>>> windows of time to give feedback or test the new version with existing
>>> software.
>>>
>>> For example, several developers were surprised yesterday with the
>>> announcement of an upcoming notebook 5.0 release, and are now
>>> struggling to catch up on what is new and to test their
>>> plugins/extensions. There are likely others in the community who did
>>> not realize the 5.0 release was so close, who would need some time to
>>> test their extensions/plugins and give feedback.
>>>
>>> How would the team and everyone else feel if we encouraged Jupyter
>>> projects to open an issue when a major release started to take shape
>>> which clearly listed the planned schedule for the release and
>>> highlighted what was new in the release? The upcoming release and this
>>> issue would be announced on the mailing list. People interested in
>>> following the release updates could subscribe to this issue.
>>>
>>> That would be of course on a per-project/per-maintainer basis, but the
>>> project would try  to encourage it for major releases, or maybe even
>>> minor releases.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> --
>>> Matthias, with the help of Jamie, Jason, Brian and Fernando.
>>>
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Re: [jupyter] Re: Formalizing preparing a release

2017-02-11 Thread Thomas Kluyver
I'm assuming it's already automated? I also like that page; I have trouble
remembering the release status of different projects.

On 10 February 2017 at 22:35, Jason Grout  wrote:

> It would be great if we could automate that page showing unreleased
> commits in each project. I really like that.
>
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 10:06 AM MinRK  wrote:
>
>> I made this PR  earlier
>> this week to get ready to release jupyter-core 4.3. It is a tiny release
>> (add support for one environment variable). Is there anything more that I
>> should do before cutting that release?
>>
>> I just opened this issue
>>  for releasing
>> jupyter-client 5.0. It is a major version bump due to a technically
>> backward-incompatible change (timezone-aware datetime objects), but it is
>> still a ‘small’ release, since that is in a feature that is rarely used
>> (only in IPython parallel, to my knowledge, which already supports the
>> changes in master). Should I open an issue on project-mgt about this?
>>
>> I think a release calendar is tough for many repos, as most won’t have
>> planned releases until a certain amount of changes have been accumulated.
>> Communicating upcoming major releases for the bigger user-facing projects
>> (notebook, ipython, nbconvert) is definitely important. The mailing list
>> seems like the most logical place to signal "We're trying to get ready for
>> release, please help with extra testing, catching regressions, etc." that
>> should catch people who don't follow GitHub issues.
>>
>> I made this page  as an exercise a
>> while ago, which summarizes how much we have that’s unreleased. It doesn’t
>> give an indicator of how close we are to any given release, but it does
>> (roughly) indicate how much we have unreleased, which can be used as a
>> reminder to start pushing toward a release, especially on the easily
>> forgotten smaller repos.
>>
>> -Min
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 2:59 AM, Steven Silvester <
>> ssilves...@continuum.io> wrote:
>>
>> I like the idea of handling the tracking and coordination on the
>> https://github.com/jupyter/project-mgt and having a snapshot in the
>> weekly dev meeting report as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 9:12:24 PM UTC-6, Matthias Bussonnier
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> It recently came to the attention to some of us that with the
>> increasing number of projects we have it can be hard to follow when
>> packages are going to be released, which often leads to very short
>> windows of time to give feedback or test the new version with existing
>> software.
>>
>> For example, several developers were surprised yesterday with the
>> announcement of an upcoming notebook 5.0 release, and are now
>> struggling to catch up on what is new and to test their
>> plugins/extensions. There are likely others in the community who did
>> not realize the 5.0 release was so close, who would need some time to
>> test their extensions/plugins and give feedback.
>>
>> How would the team and everyone else feel if we encouraged Jupyter
>> projects to open an issue when a major release started to take shape
>> which clearly listed the planned schedule for the release and
>> highlighted what was new in the release? The upcoming release and this
>> issue would be announced on the mailing list. People interested in
>> following the release updates could subscribe to this issue.
>>
>> That would be of course on a per-project/per-maintainer basis, but the
>> project would try  to encourage it for major releases, or maybe even
>> minor releases.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> Matthias, with the help of Jamie, Jason, Brian and Fernando.
>>
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Re: [jupyter] Re: Formalizing preparing a release

2017-02-10 Thread Jason Grout
It would be great if we could automate that page showing unreleased commits
in each project. I really like that.

On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 10:06 AM MinRK  wrote:

> I made this PR  earlier
> this week to get ready to release jupyter-core 4.3. It is a tiny release
> (add support for one environment variable). Is there anything more that I
> should do before cutting that release?
>
> I just opened this issue
>  for releasing
> jupyter-client 5.0. It is a major version bump due to a technically
> backward-incompatible change (timezone-aware datetime objects), but it is
> still a ‘small’ release, since that is in a feature that is rarely used
> (only in IPython parallel, to my knowledge, which already supports the
> changes in master). Should I open an issue on project-mgt about this?
>
> I think a release calendar is tough for many repos, as most won’t have
> planned releases until a certain amount of changes have been accumulated.
> Communicating upcoming major releases for the bigger user-facing projects
> (notebook, ipython, nbconvert) is definitely important. The mailing list
> seems like the most logical place to signal "We're trying to get ready for
> release, please help with extra testing, catching regressions, etc." that
> should catch people who don't follow GitHub issues.
>
> I made this page  as an exercise a while
> ago, which summarizes how much we have that’s unreleased. It doesn’t give
> an indicator of how close we are to any given release, but it does
> (roughly) indicate how much we have unreleased, which can be used as a
> reminder to start pushing toward a release, especially on the easily
> forgotten smaller repos.
>
> -Min
>
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 2:59 AM, Steven Silvester 
> wrote:
>
> I like the idea of handling the tracking and coordination on the
> https://github.com/jupyter/project-mgt and having a snapshot in the
> weekly dev meeting report as well.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 9:12:24 PM UTC-6, Matthias Bussonnier
> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> It recently came to the attention to some of us that with the
> increasing number of projects we have it can be hard to follow when
> packages are going to be released, which often leads to very short
> windows of time to give feedback or test the new version with existing
> software.
>
> For example, several developers were surprised yesterday with the
> announcement of an upcoming notebook 5.0 release, and are now
> struggling to catch up on what is new and to test their
> plugins/extensions. There are likely others in the community who did
> not realize the 5.0 release was so close, who would need some time to
> test their extensions/plugins and give feedback.
>
> How would the team and everyone else feel if we encouraged Jupyter
> projects to open an issue when a major release started to take shape
> which clearly listed the planned schedule for the release and
> highlighted what was new in the release? The upcoming release and this
> issue would be announced on the mailing list. People interested in
> following the release updates could subscribe to this issue.
>
> That would be of course on a per-project/per-maintainer basis, but the
> project would try  to encourage it for major releases, or maybe even
> minor releases.
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Matthias, with the help of Jamie, Jason, Brian and Fernando.
>
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Re: [jupyter] Re: Formalizing preparing a release

2017-02-10 Thread MinRK
I made this PR  earlier
this week to get ready to release jupyter-core 4.3. It is a tiny release
(add support for one environment variable). Is there anything more that I
should do before cutting that release?

I just opened this issue
 for releasing
jupyter-client 5.0. It is a major version bump due to a technically
backward-incompatible change (timezone-aware datetime objects), but it is
still a ‘small’ release, since that is in a feature that is rarely used
(only in IPython parallel, to my knowledge, which already supports the
changes in master). Should I open an issue on project-mgt about this?

I think a release calendar is tough for many repos, as most won’t have
planned releases until a certain amount of changes have been accumulated.
Communicating upcoming major releases for the bigger user-facing projects
(notebook, ipython, nbconvert) is definitely important. The mailing list
seems like the most logical place to signal "We're trying to get ready for
release, please help with extra testing, catching regressions, etc." that
should catch people who don't follow GitHub issues.

I made this page  as an exercise a while
ago, which summarizes how much we have that’s unreleased. It doesn’t give
an indicator of how close we are to any given release, but it does
(roughly) indicate how much we have unreleased, which can be used as a
reminder to start pushing toward a release, especially on the easily
forgotten smaller repos.

-Min

On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 2:59 AM, Steven Silvester 
wrote:

I like the idea of handling the tracking and coordination on the
> https://github.com/jupyter/project-mgt and having a snapshot in the
> weekly dev meeting report as well.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 9:12:24 PM UTC-6, Matthias Bussonnier
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> It recently came to the attention to some of us that with the
>> increasing number of projects we have it can be hard to follow when
>> packages are going to be released, which often leads to very short
>> windows of time to give feedback or test the new version with existing
>> software.
>>
>> For example, several developers were surprised yesterday with the
>> announcement of an upcoming notebook 5.0 release, and are now
>> struggling to catch up on what is new and to test their
>> plugins/extensions. There are likely others in the community who did
>> not realize the 5.0 release was so close, who would need some time to
>> test their extensions/plugins and give feedback.
>>
>> How would the team and everyone else feel if we encouraged Jupyter
>> projects to open an issue when a major release started to take shape
>> which clearly listed the planned schedule for the release and
>> highlighted what was new in the release? The upcoming release and this
>> issue would be announced on the mailing list. People interested in
>> following the release updates could subscribe to this issue.
>>
>> That would be of course on a per-project/per-maintainer basis, but the
>> project would try  to encourage it for major releases, or maybe even
>> minor releases.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> Matthias, with the help of Jamie, Jason, Brian and Fernando.
>>
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[jupyter] Re: Formalizing preparing a release

2017-02-09 Thread Steven Silvester
I like the idea of handling the tracking and coordination on the 
https://github.com/jupyter/project-mgt and having a snapshot in the weekly 
dev meeting report as well.



On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 9:12:24 PM UTC-6, Matthias Bussonnier 
wrote:
>
> Hello all, 
>
> It recently came to the attention to some of us that with the 
> increasing number of projects we have it can be hard to follow when 
> packages are going to be released, which often leads to very short 
> windows of time to give feedback or test the new version with existing 
> software. 
>
> For example, several developers were surprised yesterday with the 
> announcement of an upcoming notebook 5.0 release, and are now 
> struggling to catch up on what is new and to test their 
> plugins/extensions. There are likely others in the community who did 
> not realize the 5.0 release was so close, who would need some time to 
> test their extensions/plugins and give feedback. 
>
> How would the team and everyone else feel if we encouraged Jupyter 
> projects to open an issue when a major release started to take shape 
> which clearly listed the planned schedule for the release and 
> highlighted what was new in the release? The upcoming release and this 
> issue would be announced on the mailing list. People interested in 
> following the release updates could subscribe to this issue. 
>
> That would be of course on a per-project/per-maintainer basis, but the 
> project would try  to encourage it for major releases, or maybe even 
> minor releases. 
>
> Thanks, 
> -- 
> Matthias, with the help of Jamie, Jason, Brian and Fernando. 
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