Re: [k-9-mail] Re: POP3 move message from trash to inbox

2016-08-27 Thread Harry Ward


On Saturday, August 27, 2016 at 1:30:36 PM UTC-4, wroot wrote:
>
>
>
> Well, you have quoted a reply made to my question, which was about moving 
> messages from Sent to Inbox so it would be possible to retrieve them in 
> another POP3 client. I wasn't talking about leaving copies of  messages on 
> the server when retrieving them. If you want to just move messages locally 
> in the client, then yes, it should be technically possible, but i guess K-9 
> developer decided this is not an important feature and implemented standatd 
> POP3 client features only. 
>

Too many quotes on this thread!  Sorry I picked up the incorrect one.

You are correct, the K-9 developer seemed to take the easy way out on this 
one.

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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: POP3 move message from trash to inbox

2016-08-27 Thread Harry Ward


On Saturday, August 27, 2016 at 2:14:41 AM UTC-4, wroot wrote:

>
> The client can do whatever it wants locally, but that won't be synced back 
> to the mailbox on the server via POP protocol 9as POP is only retrieving 
> items). That's what i was looking for initially (to move emails from trash 
> to inbox in K-9, so i would download them from Inbox in my desktop client). 
> My webmail client allows that as it is doing this on the server side 
> actually moving emails between catalogs in the server's mailbox, so then 
> any POP client can download them as new. 
>

I don't need to be concerned about what happens at the server end (although 
on my PC, my Email program lets me leave the message on the server if I 
wish). Once the Email is downloaded to my Android, I just want to be able 
to move it from Deleted to the Inbox, and vice versa. If I understand it 
correctly, this should be 100% within the purvey of K-9.

Harry

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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: POP3 move message from trash to inbox

2016-08-26 Thread Harry Ward


>>On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 1:02:37 PM UTC-5, Richard wrote:
>
> >>You are asking for something that isn't supported in the POP 
> >>protocol and so is out of the control of the POP client (K-9 or any 
> >>other). 
>
> I don't see how this can be true. I have been using the POP3 Protocol for 
> years with an Email program on my PC. I can easily move messages from the 
> Trash bin to the Inbox, or vice versa--as many times as I want to. And 
> since K-9 stores the messages on the Android phone, everything is there to 
> do the same.
>

Harry 

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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: Where does K9 store Email files

2016-04-25 Thread Harry Ward
Philip:

I am not a software developer by any means, but I would be willing to be a 
test site, if someone else can do the coding. I currently have 4 apps on my 
external SD card (32 G): Firefox, Open Camera, X-plore, and WPS Office. 
Each one has part (but not all) of their program stored on the external 
card, and the remainder on the internal card--though I don't know exactly 
where these files are located.  Plus I have all my documents & photos 
stored on my external card.

Attached is what the storage distribution for Firefox and WPS Office look 
like.

Harry


On Monday, April 25, 2016 at 2:58:31 AM UTC-4, Philip Whitehouse wrote:
>
> Paul, 
>
> We have an open issue for improving the behaviour of K9 and external 
> storage. 
>
> As to when it gets done, that's dependent on there being a developer who 
> has a device to test on and considers it more important than the many other 
> issues. 
>
> As my Nexus doesn't have an SD card it's not something I can actually do 
> much about. 
>
> Best regards, 
>
> Philip Whitehouse 
>
> On April 25, 2016 4:47:43 AM GMT+01:00, Paul Norman <
> paul.a.no...@gmail.com > wrote: 
> >Dear Phillip, 
> > 
> >Depending on the app's developer's settings, any other apps running 
> >under Lollipop appear mostly well able to set an external SD card to 
> >actually run from and store "data" to. 
> > 
> >Attached a screenshot showing vast majority of app and data on an 
> >external card... 
> > 
> >I have never understood the answers as to why K9 can not do this too? 
> > 
> >Appreciate any help on this as well please, as explained on another 
> >thread, my system is getting clogged by K9 being about to use up all my 
> >primary card space. 
> > 
> >Thank you, 
> > 
> >Paul 
> > 
>
>

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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: Where does K9 store Email files

2016-04-25 Thread Harry Ward
Philip:

I am not a software developer by any means, but I would be willing to be a 
test site, if someone else can do the coding. I currently have 4 apps on my 
external SD card (32 G): Firefox, Open Camera, X-plore, and WPS Office. 
Each one has part (but not all) of their program stored on the external 
card, and the remainder on the internal card--though I don't know exactly 
where these files are located.  Plus I have all my documents & photos 
stored on my external card.

Attached is what the storage distribution for Firefox and WPS Office look 
like.

Harry

On Monday, April 25, 2016 at 2:58:31 AM UTC-4, Philip Whitehouse wrote:
>
> Paul, 
>
> We have an open issue for improving the behaviour of K9 and external 
> storage. 
>
> As to when it gets done, that's dependent on there being a developer who 
> has a device to test on and considers it more important than the many other 
> issues. 
>
> As my Nexus doesn't have an SD card it's not something I can actually do 
> much about. 
>
> Best regards, 
>
> Philip Whitehouse 
>
> On April 25, 2016 4:47:43 AM GMT+01:00, Paul Norman <
> paul.a.no...@gmail.com > wrote: 
> >Dear Phillip, 
> > 
> >Depending on the app's developer's settings, any other apps running 
> >under Lollipop appear mostly well able to set an external SD card to 
> >actually run from and store "data" to. 
> > 
> >Attached a screenshot showing vast majority of app and data on an 
> >external card... 
> > 
> >I have never understood the answers as to why K9 can not do this too? 
> > 
> >Appreciate any help on this as well please, as explained on another 
> >thread, my system is getting clogged by K9 being about to use up all my 
> >primary card space. 
> > 
> >Thank you, 
> > 
> >Paul 
> > 
> >On Sunday, 24 April 2016 08:47:21 UTC+12, Harry Ward  wrote: 
> >> Philip: 
> >> 
> >> The first attachment indicates 0 Kb in the folder I created in my 
> >external SD card. I also connected the phone directly to my computer, 
> >and again, nothing shows in that folder. 
> >> 
> >> The 2nd attachment shows the internal sdcard, and files in the 
> >Android->data->com.fsck.k9->files folder. The left hand purple one is a 
> >.db file, and the right hand purple one is a .db-journal file. Are 
> >these files readable? 
> >> 
> >> The 3rd attachment again shows the internal sdcard, and files in the 
> >com.fsck.k9 folder. These 4 all appear to be some form of settings for 
> >the K9 program. 
> >> 
> >> So if these are the files you are talking about, they are not on the 
> >external SD card. 
> >> 
> >> I guess it is possible that I set this up wrong.  I'm no software 
> >expert. Look at the 4th attachment. Is that the correct formatting to 
> >get me to the folder I set up (see again the 1st attachment). 
> >> 
> >> Also, I created the folder first, and then entered the code under 
> >Miscellaneous->'Save attachments to...'. Should I have entered the code 
> >1st, and let K9 create the folder on the external SD card? 
> >> 
> >> Thanks for all your help on these issues. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Harry 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Saturday, April 23, 2016 at 12:59:56 PM UTC-4, Philip Whitehouse 
> >wrote:Sorry,  when you said files I thought you meant attachments. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> But the actual emails are stored in a database which should also be 
> >in that folder. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I'm doubtful the folder is empty. I suspect the app you are using to 
> >view it just doesn't have permission to see the contents. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On April 23, 2016 5:24:31 PM GMT+01:00, Harry Ward 
> ><hm...@compuserve.com> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> >Philip: 
> >> 
> >> >Attached is what Miscellaneous is set to. But the title says the 
> >> 
> >> >setting is 
> >> 
> >> >only for Attachments to Emails. In any case, that folder is empty. 
> >> 
> >> > 
> >> 
> >> >I have all my photos, music and documents stored on my external SD 
> >> 
> >> >drive,   
> >> 
> >> >as well as several apps including my browser, so I guess it is 
> >mapped 
> >> 
> >> >correctly. 
> >> 
> >> > 
> >> 
> >> 

Re: [k-9-mail] Feature request spam button

2016-04-23 Thread Harry Ward
Philip:

Again, many thanks.

I think I  understand enough now to stop bothering you on this subject. K9 
is set to 'leave the message on the server'. My computer Email program, on 
my primary computer, leaves that option unchecked. So I can get the Email 
on K9 first, and then when I retrieve it on my primary computer, it is 
deleted from the server.


Harry




On Saturday, April 23, 2016 at 4:19:05 PM UTC-4, Philip Whitehouse wrote:
>
> Ah it's a POP account... 
>
> That number is the number of unread emails. 
>
> Sent emails may be being stored in your sent folder by your provider. 
> Similarly emails deleted via a web client may be moved to Trash. But we 
> can't do that when you delete an email because POP doesn't support moving 
> emails I think. 
>
> And POP doesn't sync read email status either. So when we download it we 
> assume it's unread. 
>
> There's a reason we recommend using IMAP where available - it's much 
> better for managing email. 
>
>
>
>

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Re: [k-9-mail] Feature request spam button

2016-04-23 Thread Harry Ward
Philip:

I forgot to indicate that I have K9 Version 5.010


Harry


On Saturday, April 23, 2016 at 4:10:45 PM UTC-4, Harry Ward wrote:
>
> Philip:
>
> WOW, what rapid responses!
>
> I may have found the problem. 
>
>
>

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Re: [k-9-mail] Feature request spam button

2016-04-23 Thread Harry Ward
Philip:

The first attachment is what I see when I do a long tap on a message. Spam 
is not on the list. Only Delete.

The second attachment is what I have checked in Visible Message Actions.

I was not clear what should be on the screen when I click the three dots, 
but the 3rd attachment is what the three dots show when I have an Inbox 
message open.

So I need a little more of your expert advice.


Harry



On Saturday, April 23, 2016 at 8:46:20 AM UTC-4, Philip Whitehouse wrote:
>
> Visible Message Actions customises the options available when a message is 
> actually visible (hence the name), not in the list view.
>
> From the list view you can either long tap on a message and select Spam or 
> you can enable the checkboxes and then click the three dots and then spam 
> (or just the folder icon then the Spam folder from the list.
>
> We do not currently have customisation of the Selected Emails bottom 
> action bar.
>
> I'm not sure we will get to customisation of this before the wider design 
> overhaul.
>
>
> On Saturday, 23 April 2016 05:59:39 UTC+1, Harry Ward wrote:
>>
>> On my K9 on an Android 5.0.1 phone, no matter whether I select all 5, or 
>> none of the items under Visible Message Actions, I see the same buttons at 
>> the bottom: Magnify, Sync, 3 horz bars (multiple options), Send an Email, 
>> and the 3 vertical dots. Have I missed something somewhere?
>>
>> Harry
>>
>>

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[k-9-mail] Re: Where does K9 store Email files

2016-04-23 Thread Harry Ward
Philip:
Attached is what Miscellaneous is set to. But the title says the setting is 
only for Attachments to Emails. In any case, that folder is empty.

I have all my photos, music and documents stored on my external SD drive,  
as well as several apps including my browser, so I guess it is mapped 
correctly. 

So assuming that the K9 files are stored on the phone, what folder would 
they be stored it? And are they stored in a readable format?


Harry


On Saturday, April 23, 2016 at 8:48:18 AM UTC-4, Philip Whitehouse wrote:
>
> Global Settings -> Miscellaneous 
>
> As to whether it's possible to use the SD card - it may not be but to a 
> large extent it depends on how the SD card was mapped to storage by your 
> manufacturer.
>
> On Saturday, 23 April 2016 05:38:45 UTC+1, Harry Ward wrote:
>>
>> I have an LG model L33l with Android 5.0.1. I also have an external SD 
>> card that I added.
>>
>> This may seem like a stupid question, but I cannot find where K9 stores 
>> the files that are in my Inbox, Sent, Trash, etc. If I open Sent or Trash 
>> folders in K9, I  can see the files. But using my Explorer program (I use 
>> X-plore) I cannot find them. Can you tell me where they are located, and if 
>> I can specify their location? I would like to store them on my external SD 
>> card, but reading some of the threads here, that does not seem to be 
>> currently possible.
>>
>> Harry
>>
>

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