Re: [k-9-mail] Unable to send email with large size attachments

2018-11-17 Thread David W. Jones
On November 17, 2018 3:28:26 AM HST, Greg Troxel  wrote:
>Honna Smal  writes:
>
>> What is the maximum size for sending emails with large attachments?
>
>I am not sure that k-9 has a specific limit.  But I sent things over 4
>MB, perhaps even close to 20 MB, fairly often, with no trouble.   I've
>been reading the k-9 mail list for years, and have not seen similar
>reports of trouble.
>
>Keep in mind that a 3 MB file is a 4 MB attachment, more or less, with
>base64 encoding.
>
>Mail servers have a configured size limit, as David said.  But it would
>seem odd, these days, for 4 MB to run afoul of that.
>
>> I could not email an attachment of over 4 MB via public wifi nor via
>my own 
>> home wifi.
>
>To debug this, you need to look at the server logs, and see what the
>server recorded.
>
>Also, set up adb and see what k-9 logs.
>
>You say "could not", but that is not specific enough.  For people to
>help you, you need to be describe more details, including the timeline
>from pressing send and the precise error you received.
>
>You say "could not" about "public wifi" and "home wifi", but do not
>mention cellular, or anything else.  Do you mean "I tried those two
>things, and can't readily try anything else, and I have never seen it
>work"?
>
>You didn't explain if regular text mail works, and if you have tried
>successively smaller attachments to find a magic size.  Or if your mail
>provider has a mail size limit.

Just guessing that Honna's trying to send using mail.com account, they say 
their size limit is 50MB:

https://www.mail.com/mail/attachments-up-to-50-MB/499458-large-email-attachment-limit.html#more_capacity_mailcom_50_mb_email_attachment_limit

>You also did not explain if you have set up another email provider and
>tried that, or a different client (thunderbird on desktop) to see if
>that has the same issue.
>
>> Strangely enough, those emails were removed from the Out map into the
>Send 
>> map. So to me it looked as if the emails were actually send. Only
>this 
>> appeared not to be the case.
>
>adb logs may be helpful.  The message going from the Outbox to the Sent
>folder is not proof that they actually were sent, but evidence that k-9
>thought they were accepted by the first-hop server.
>
>Overall, I suspect you will find a problem in the email service (or
>perhaps a network which only allows limited-size connections??), and
>not
>in k-9.
>
>Greg


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Re: [k-9-mail] Unable to send email with large size attachments

2018-11-17 Thread Uwe Deutscher
I often expierienced a similar issue after sending a big amount of small files 
with K-9. 

K-9 moved them from out to sent and I thought the mail went well. 

But the receiver complained about having got empty files. 

When I opened my sent mail in the sent folder, I noticed that only some of 
those files had a size of 0 kB. 

This happened several times whenever I tried to send big amounts of about 12+ 
attachments each of minor size. 

So now I always check the sent mail folder whether the size of attachments is 
all right.

When I try to delete a big amount of mails 200+ K-9 usually crashes. 

So I assume it has stack issues handling very many items.


Uwe 


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Betreff: Re: [k-9-mail] Unable to send email with large size attachments

On November 16, 2018 9:58:57 AM HST, Honna Smal  wrote:
>Hello,
>
>What is the maximum size for sending emails with large attachments?
>I could not email an attachment of over 4 MB via public wifi nor via my
>own 
>home wifi.
>Strangely enough, those emails were removed from the Out map into the
>Send 
>map. So to me it looked as if the emails were actually send. Only this 
>appeared not to be the case.
>
>Otherwise I am a very happy user of K9 mail. So I would really like to
>know 
>what I should know about attachments that i can email.
>
>Many thanks in advance.
>
>Honna Smal

Hmm, outgoing mail size limits are usually set by the mail service provider, 
right?
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Re: [k-9-mail] Unable to send email with large size attachments

2018-11-17 Thread Greg Troxel
Honna Smal  writes:

> What is the maximum size for sending emails with large attachments?

I am not sure that k-9 has a specific limit.  But I sent things over 4
MB, perhaps even close to 20 MB, fairly often, with no trouble.   I've
been reading the k-9 mail list for years, and have not seen similar
reports of trouble.

Keep in mind that a 3 MB file is a 4 MB attachment, more or less, with
base64 encoding.

Mail servers have a configured size limit, as David said.  But it would
seem odd, these days, for 4 MB to run afoul of that.

> I could not email an attachment of over 4 MB via public wifi nor via my own 
> home wifi.

To debug this, you need to look at the server logs, and see what the
server recorded.

Also, set up adb and see what k-9 logs.

You say "could not", but that is not specific enough.  For people to
help you, you need to be describe more details, including the timeline
from pressing send and the precise error you received.

You say "could not" about "public wifi" and "home wifi", but do not
mention cellular, or anything else.  Do you mean "I tried those two
things, and can't readily try anything else, and I have never seen it
work"?

You didn't explain if regular text mail works, and if you have tried
successively smaller attachments to find a magic size.  Or if your mail
provider has a mail size limit.

You also did not explain if you have set up another email provider and
tried that, or a different client (thunderbird on desktop) to see if
that has the same issue.

> Strangely enough, those emails were removed from the Out map into the Send 
> map. So to me it looked as if the emails were actually send. Only this 
> appeared not to be the case.

adb logs may be helpful.  The message going from the Outbox to the Sent
folder is not proof that they actually were sent, but evidence that k-9
thought they were accepted by the first-hop server.

Overall, I suspect you will find a problem in the email service (or
perhaps a network which only allows limited-size connections??), and not
in k-9.

Greg

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Re: [k-9-mail] Unable to send email with large size attachments

2018-11-16 Thread David W. Jones
On November 16, 2018 9:58:57 AM HST, Honna Smal  wrote:
>Hello,
>
>What is the maximum size for sending emails with large attachments?
>I could not email an attachment of over 4 MB via public wifi nor via my
>own 
>home wifi.
>Strangely enough, those emails were removed from the Out map into the
>Send 
>map. So to me it looked as if the emails were actually send. Only this 
>appeared not to be the case.
>
>Otherwise I am a very happy user of K9 mail. So I would really like to
>know 
>what I should know about attachments that i can email.
>
>Many thanks in advance.
>
>Honna Smal

Hmm, outgoing mail size limits are usually set by the mail service provider, 
right?
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gnomeno...@gmail.com
wandering the landscape of god
http://dancingtreefrog.com

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[k-9-mail] Unable to send email with large size attachments

2018-11-16 Thread Honna Smal
Hello,

What is the maximum size for sending emails with large attachments?
I could not email an attachment of over 4 MB via public wifi nor via my own 
home wifi.
Strangely enough, those emails were removed from the Out map into the Send 
map. So to me it looked as if the emails were actually send. Only this 
appeared not to be the case.

Otherwise I am a very happy user of K9 mail. So I would really like to know 
what I should know about attachments that i can email.

Many thanks in advance.

Honna Smal

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