Re: State of server-side retrace of KDE crashes?
For what it's worth, I don't think server-wise retracing is solely a workaround for distro-specific issues. Even for distros that ship debug symbols, I often find in my bug triaging that it can be a challenge to get users to actually use them. The DrKonqi auto-symbol-downloader sometimes doesn't work (a bug that should be fixed, of course), and also when people file a crash reports manually and remember to submit a backtrace, they need to install the debug packages manually too, which they often forget or don't know how to do. As a result, I still have to ask for them to try again after reinstalling debug packages manually a lot. Nate On 12/19/21 11:47, Ahmad Samir wrote: On 19/12/21 20:26, Antonio Rojas wrote: El domingo, 19 de diciembre de 2021 17:27:52 (CET), Kevin Kofler escribió: PS: Those major distributions have had this sorted out for a couple years already. I really do not understand why it is such a problem for Arch to get this working. The current situation is a pain for everyone. I cannot reasonably do any debugging on my PinePhone running Manjaro ARM. Even the limited debugging support in the form of prebuilt rebuilds of GTK and Qt with debugging information is available only for x86_64. Because, unlike those other "major distributions", Arch infrastructure and packaging work relies entirely on volunteers in their free time. And the commercially-oriented derivatives that take advantage of this work (such as the one you mention) do not ever contribute back. As usual, "open-source, if you want something done, do it yourself, or send patches." Regards, Ahmad Samir
Re: State of server-side retrace of KDE crashes?
On 19/12/21 20:26, Antonio Rojas wrote: El domingo, 19 de diciembre de 2021 17:27:52 (CET), Kevin Kofler escribió: PS: Those major distributions have had this sorted out for a couple years already. I really do not understand why it is such a problem for Arch to get this working. The current situation is a pain for everyone. I cannot reasonably do any debugging on my PinePhone running Manjaro ARM. Even the limited debugging support in the form of prebuilt rebuilds of GTK and Qt with debugging information is available only for x86_64. Because, unlike those other "major distributions", Arch infrastructure and packaging work relies entirely on volunteers in their free time. And the commercially-oriented derivatives that take advantage of this work (such as the one you mention) do not ever contribute back. As usual, "open-source, if you want something done, do it yourself, or send patches." Regards, Ahmad Samir
Re: State of server-side retrace of KDE crashes?
El domingo, 19 de diciembre de 2021 17:27:52 (CET), Kevin Kofler escribió: PS: Those major distributions have had this sorted out for a couple years already. I really do not understand why it is such a problem for Arch to get this working. The current situation is a pain for everyone. I cannot reasonably do any debugging on my PinePhone running Manjaro ARM. Even the limited debugging support in the form of prebuilt rebuilds of GTK and Qt with debugging information is available only for x86_64. Because, unlike those other "major distributions", Arch infrastructure and packaging work relies entirely on volunteers in their free time. And the commercially-oriented derivatives that take advantage of this work (such as the one you mention) do not ever contribute back.
