Re: Split kde-baseapps?

2015-02-25 Thread David Edmundson
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Emmanuel Pescosta 
emmanuelpescosta...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hope you don't want to do this before tomorrow, do you?

 If moving Dolphin to a new repo is still possible then yes, because I
 would prefer a KF5 based version of Dolphin in 15.04 :)


Seems worth pushing for. Nothing like a deadline to get things moving.
New repo requested.

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Re: Split kde-baseapps?

2015-02-25 Thread Luigi Toscano
On Wednesday 25 of February 2015 17:21:07 David Edmundson wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Emmanuel Pescosta 
 
 emmanuelpescosta...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hope you don't want to do this before tomorrow, do you?
  
  If moving Dolphin to a new repo is still possible then yes, because I
  would prefer a KF5 based version of Dolphin in 15.04 :)
 
 Seems worth pushing for. Nothing like a deadline to get things moving.
 New repo requested.

Which means: git rewriting and checking. This usually does not take few hours. 
Do we really need to rush at the last minute?

Nothing like a deadline to remember that its better to plan in advance for the 
*next* one. I would say: now, time to wait and stabilize instead. But it's not 
up to my to decide.

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Re: Split kde-baseapps?

2015-02-25 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dimecres, 25 de febrer de 2015, a les 17:28:33, Luigi Toscano va escriure:
 On Wednesday 25 of February 2015 17:21:07 David Edmundson wrote:
  On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Emmanuel Pescosta 
  
  emmanuelpescosta...@gmail.com wrote:
Hope you don't want to do this before tomorrow, do you?
   
   If moving Dolphin to a new repo is still possible then yes, because I
   would prefer a KF5 based version of Dolphin in 15.04 :)
  
  Seems worth pushing for. Nothing like a deadline to get things moving.
  New repo requested.
 
 Which means: git rewriting and checking. This usually does not take few
 hours. Do we really need to rush at the last minute?
 
 Nothing like a deadline to remember that its better to plan in advance for
 the *next* one. I would say: now, time to wait and stabilize instead. But
 it's not up to my to decide.

Emmanuel already decided for going for next version, read the previous emails 
on the list :)

Cheers,
  Albert

 
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Re: Split kde-baseapps?

2015-02-25 Thread Emmanuel Pescosta
 Let's make sure we can do this for the next release :)

It's almost ready for the next (15.08) release ;)
David Edmundson helped me a lot with moving Dolphin into a new repo, see
http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=dolphin.git

Cheers,
Emmanuel

2015-02-26 1:02 GMT+01:00 Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org:

 El Dimecres, 25 de febrer de 2015, a les 11:13:37, Emmanuel Pescosta va
 escriure:
   We can make a release of it.
 
  Thanks! But I think it's already too late to move Dolphin into a new
 repo,
  given that the freeze is only a few hours away.
  Bad timing from my side ...

 Let's make sure we can do this for the next release :)

 Cheers,
   Albert

 
  Cheers,
  Emmanuel
 
  2015-02-25 11:02 GMT+01:00 Vishesh Handa m...@vhanda.in:
   On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org
 wrote:
   El Dimarts, 24 de febrer de 2015, a les 21:02:03, Emmanuel Pescosta va
  
   escriure:
 Hope you don't want to do this before tomorrow, do you?
   
If moving Dolphin to a new repo is still possible then yes, because
 I
  
   would
  
prefer a KF5 based version of Dolphin in 15.04 :)
  
   AFAIK you depend on unreleased baloo-widgets?
  
   We can make a release of it.
  
   I hadn't bothered till now since no one needed it.
  
  
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Re: Split kde-baseapps?

2015-02-24 Thread Emmanuel Pescosta
 Hope you don't want to do this before tomorrow, do you?

If moving Dolphin to a new repo is still possible then yes, because I would
prefer a KF5 based version of Dolphin in 15.04 :)
But if you think we should wait until the 15.04 freeze is over and release
a kdelibs4 version instead, is also ok.

Cheers,
Emmanuel

2015-02-24 19:51 GMT+01:00 Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org:

 El Dimarts, 24 de febrer de 2015, a les 10:55:20, Emmanuel Pescosta va
 escriure:
  Hi everyone,
 
   We can split off Dolphin as soon as Dolphin is konq-lib free
 
  Dolphin is almost ready for splitting (pending Review Request:
  https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/122687/) or merging (frameworks -
 master)

 You can't merge frameworks to master until the rest of the repo is done.

  How should we proceed?

 Hope you don't want to do this before tomorrow, do you?

 Cheers,
   Albert

 
  Cheers,
  Emmanuel
 
  2014-09-29 15:45 GMT+02:00 Emmanuel Pescosta 
 emmanuelpescosta...@gmail.com
- dolphin: could be split out, I added emmanuel as a CC to know his
  
   opinion
  
   Thanks for adding me and sorry for the late response.
  
   +1 for splitting up kde-baseapps
   We can split off Dolphin as soon as Dolphin is konq-lib free (David has
   already done a huge amount of work in this field :)
  
   Cheers,
   Emmauel
  
   2014-09-25 1:01 GMT+02:00 Aleix Pol aleix...@kde.org:
   On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Luca Beltrame lbeltr...@kde.org
 wrote:
   Michael Palimaka wrote:
Are there any plans to split frameworks-based kde-baseapps?
  
   IMO it would make sense first to consult with the various
 applications'
   maintainers and / or review what's in there and what should happen to
   it.
  
   Well let's see:
   - dolphin: could be split out, I added emmanuel as a CC to know his
   opinion
   - kdialog: should go to kde-cli-tools?
   - kioslave/about: I guess it should go either to kioslave-extras or
   konqueror itself. I guess it's here because the applications use it,
 so
   kioslave.
   - kfind: looks like it could be split. Doesn't look maintained, we can
   decide where to put it later on. It's an executable, so it's easy to
 move
   around.
   - konqplugins: By the name sounds like it should go wherever konqueror
   goes. Or do other applications use them?
   - nsplugins: same, wherever konqueror goes?
   - konqueror: split? David will read this for sure. :D
  
   I hope this helps.
   Aleix


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Re: Split kde-baseapps?

2015-02-24 Thread Emmanuel Pescosta
Hi everyone,

 We can split off Dolphin as soon as Dolphin is konq-lib free

Dolphin is almost ready for splitting (pending Review Request:
https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/122687/) or merging (frameworks - master)

How should we proceed?

Cheers,
Emmanuel

2014-09-29 15:45 GMT+02:00 Emmanuel Pescosta emmanuelpescosta...@gmail.com
:

  - dolphin: could be split out, I added emmanuel as a CC to know his
 opinion

 Thanks for adding me and sorry for the late response.

 +1 for splitting up kde-baseapps
 We can split off Dolphin as soon as Dolphin is konq-lib free (David has
 already done a huge amount of work in this field :)

 Cheers,
 Emmauel

 2014-09-25 1:01 GMT+02:00 Aleix Pol aleix...@kde.org:

 On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Luca Beltrame lbeltr...@kde.org wrote:

 Michael Palimaka wrote:

  Are there any plans to split frameworks-based kde-baseapps?

 IMO it would make sense first to consult with the various applications'
 maintainers and / or review what's in there and what should happen to it.


 Well let's see:
 - dolphin: could be split out, I added emmanuel as a CC to know his
 opinion
 - kdialog: should go to kde-cli-tools?
 - kioslave/about: I guess it should go either to kioslave-extras or
 konqueror itself. I guess it's here because the applications use it, so
 kioslave.
 - kfind: looks like it could be split. Doesn't look maintained, we can
 decide where to put it later on. It's an executable, so it's easy to move
 around.
 - konqplugins: By the name sounds like it should go wherever konqueror
 goes. Or do other applications use them?
 - nsplugins: same, wherever konqueror goes?
 - konqueror: split? David will read this for sure. :D

 I hope this helps.
 Aleix



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Re: Split kde-baseapps?

2015-02-24 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dimarts, 24 de febrer de 2015, a les 10:55:20, Emmanuel Pescosta va 
escriure:
 Hi everyone,
 
  We can split off Dolphin as soon as Dolphin is konq-lib free
 
 Dolphin is almost ready for splitting (pending Review Request:
 https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/122687/) or merging (frameworks - master)

You can't merge frameworks to master until the rest of the repo is done.

 How should we proceed?

Hope you don't want to do this before tomorrow, do you?

Cheers,
  Albert

 
 Cheers,
 Emmanuel
 
 2014-09-29 15:45 GMT+02:00 Emmanuel Pescosta emmanuelpescosta...@gmail.com
   - dolphin: could be split out, I added emmanuel as a CC to know his
  
  opinion
  
  Thanks for adding me and sorry for the late response.
  
  +1 for splitting up kde-baseapps
  We can split off Dolphin as soon as Dolphin is konq-lib free (David has
  already done a huge amount of work in this field :)
  
  Cheers,
  Emmauel
  
  2014-09-25 1:01 GMT+02:00 Aleix Pol aleix...@kde.org:
  On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Luca Beltrame lbeltr...@kde.org wrote:
  Michael Palimaka wrote:
   Are there any plans to split frameworks-based kde-baseapps?
  
  IMO it would make sense first to consult with the various applications'
  maintainers and / or review what's in there and what should happen to
  it.
  
  Well let's see:
  - dolphin: could be split out, I added emmanuel as a CC to know his
  opinion
  - kdialog: should go to kde-cli-tools?
  - kioslave/about: I guess it should go either to kioslave-extras or
  konqueror itself. I guess it's here because the applications use it, so
  kioslave.
  - kfind: looks like it could be split. Doesn't look maintained, we can
  decide where to put it later on. It's an executable, so it's easy to move
  around.
  - konqplugins: By the name sounds like it should go wherever konqueror
  goes. Or do other applications use them?
  - nsplugins: same, wherever konqueror goes?
  - konqueror: split? David will read this for sure. :D
  
  I hope this helps.
  Aleix

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Re: Split kde-baseapps?

2015-02-07 Thread David Narvaez
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 7:57 AM, David Narvaez
david.narv...@computer.org wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 11:13 AM, David Narvaez
 david.narv...@computer.org wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 3:05 AM, David Faure fa...@kde.org wrote:
 I thought kio-about was going into kio-extras?

 Indeed, I just realized.

 This is now at

 g...@git.kde.org:clones/kio-extras/narvaez/kio-extras-about

 Could somebody check everything is in order so that I can push this
 merge into kio-extras? As in my other repo, this is meant to just
 transplant the code, I will then post RRs to make it compile.

This is now in kio-extras. I'll post RRs to make the code compile etc.

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Re: Split kde-baseapps?

2015-02-01 Thread David Narvaez
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 11:13 AM, David Narvaez
david.narv...@computer.org wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 3:05 AM, David Faure fa...@kde.org wrote:
 I thought kio-about was going into kio-extras?

 Indeed, I just realized.

This is now at

g...@git.kde.org:clones/kio-extras/narvaez/kio-extras-about

Could somebody check everything is in order so that I can push this
merge into kio-extras? As in my other repo, this is meant to just
transplant the code, I will then post RRs to make it compile.

Thanks.

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Re: Split kde-baseapps?

2015-01-19 Thread David Faure
On Sunday 18 January 2015 14:35:53 David Narvaez wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 3:27 AM, David Faure fa...@kde.org wrote:
  AFAIK there are two ways. One where you replay the history using git
  filter- branch, there's a wiki page about how to do this (iirc from Alex
  Merry).
 This is up at g...@git.kde.org:clones/kio/narvaez/kio-about-protocol
 
 Please review everything is in order. It says it is 49 commits
 different from kio: 47 commits from the git filter-branch'ed original
 repo, then the git mv, then the merge commit. You can check the
 history with
 
 $ git log --follow src/ioslaves/about/about.protocol

I thought kio-about was going into kio-extras?

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Re: Split kde-baseapps?

2015-01-19 Thread David Narvaez
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 3:05 AM, David Faure fa...@kde.org wrote:
 I thought kio-about was going into kio-extras?

Indeed, I just realized.

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Re: Split kde-baseapps?

2015-01-18 Thread David Narvaez
On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 3:27 AM, David Faure fa...@kde.org wrote:
 AFAIK there are two ways. One where you replay the history using git filter-
 branch, there's a wiki page about how to do this (iirc from Alex Merry).

This is up at g...@git.kde.org:clones/kio/narvaez/kio-about-protocol

Please review everything is in order. It says it is 49 commits
different from kio: 47 commits from the git filter-branch'ed original
repo, then the git mv, then the merge commit. You can check the
history with

$ git log --follow src/ioslaves/about/about.protocol

Thanks to Alex Merry for the help.

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Re: Split kde-baseapps?

2015-01-05 Thread David Faure
On Wednesday 12 November 2014 18:26:22 David Narvaez wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 4:46 PM, David Faure fa...@kde.org wrote:
  If it's useful to share it, let's share it, I have no objection to that.
 
 How should this be done? Can I just copy things around and post a RR
 or should be this moved around by one of our git curators to preserve
 history?

AFAIK there are two ways. One where you replay the history using git filter-
branch, there's a wiki page about how to do this (iirc from Alex Merry).
The other way is to copy without history, but in the commit message you put 
the magic words (see first commit of any KF5 repo) which point to the orig
repo and the orig sha1 this was taken from, and you check that the qt5 git 
graft script is able to graft (link) the history to the one of the orig 
module.

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Re: Split kde-baseapps?

2015-01-05 Thread Martin Klapetek
On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 9:27 AM, David Faure fa...@kde.org wrote:

 On Wednesday 12 November 2014 18:26:22 David Narvaez wrote:
  On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 4:46 PM, David Faure fa...@kde.org wrote:
   If it's useful to share it, let's share it, I have no objection to
 that.
 
  How should this be done? Can I just copy things around and post a RR
  or should be this moved around by one of our git curators to preserve
  history?

 AFAIK there are two ways. One where you replay the history using git
 filter-
 branch, there's a wiki page about how to do this (iirc from Alex Merry).
 The other way is to copy without history, but in the commit message you put
 the magic words (see first commit of any KF5 repo) which point to the orig
 repo and the orig sha1 this was taken from, and you check that the qt5 git
 graft script is able to graft (link) the history to the one of the orig
 module.


The small downside of grafting is that once you locally graft the new repo
to the original one, the original copy has to stay on your disk forever.
Removing the original repo from your disk when it's being grafted
by another repo then breaks that another repo (as in working with
git results in errors about missing stuff).

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Re: Split kde-baseapps?

2014-11-12 Thread David Narvaez
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 4:46 PM, David Faure fa...@kde.org wrote:
 If it's useful to share it, let's share it, I have no objection to that.

How should this be done? Can I just copy things around and post a RR
or should be this moved around by one of our git curators to preserve
history?

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Re: Split kde-baseapps?

2014-11-10 Thread David Faure
On Thursday 06 November 2014 10:59:38 David Narvaez wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 3:06 PM, David Narvaez
 
 david.narv...@computer.org wrote:
  It's also used by Rekonq and anything building a web browser using KDE
  software, it should really go to kioslave-extras.
 
 Any feedback on this? If it will not be moved to kioslave-extras I
 need to patch Rekonq to stop annoying me about the missing about
 protocol.

If it's useful to share it, let's share it, I have no objection to that.

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Re: Split kde-baseapps?

2014-11-06 Thread David Narvaez
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 3:06 PM, David Narvaez
david.narv...@computer.org wrote:
 It's also used by Rekonq and anything building a web browser using KDE
 software, it should really go to kioslave-extras.

Any feedback on this? If it will not be moved to kioslave-extras I
need to patch Rekonq to stop annoying me about the missing about
protocol.

Thanks.

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Re: Split kde-baseapps?

2014-10-25 Thread David Narvaez
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 5:07 PM, David Faure fa...@kde.org wrote:
 On Thursday 25 September 2014 01:01:27 Aleix Pol wrote:
 - kioslave/about: I guess it should go either to kioslave-extras or
 konqueror itself. I guess it's here because the applications use it, so
 kioslave.

 It's only used by Konqueror.

It's also used by Rekonq and anything building a web browser using KDE
software, it should really go to kioslave-extras.

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Re: Split kde-baseapps?

2014-10-10 Thread David Faure
On Thursday 25 September 2014 01:01:27 Aleix Pol wrote:
 - kdialog: should go to kde-cli-tools?

It's more interactive than other cli tools, but OK, I guess the biggest use 
case is to call it from scripts.

 - kioslave/about: I guess it should go either to kioslave-extras or
 konqueror itself. I guess it's here because the applications use it, so
 kioslave.

It's only used by Konqueror.

 - kfind: looks like it could be split. Doesn't look maintained, we can
 decide where to put it later on. It's an executable, so it's easy to move
 around.

It predates the Ctrl+F feature in Dolphin. IMHO kfind is dead.

 - konqplugins: By the name sounds like it should go wherever konqueror
 goes. Or do other applications use them?

Right, it belongs to konqueror.

 - nsplugins: same, wherever konqueror goes?

Yes.

 - konqueror: split? David will read this for sure. :D

Eventually.


Splitting dolphin and konqueror depends on my work on libkonq though.
Resuming that... next step KonqOperations::mkdir 
(please review https://gerrit.vesnicky.cesnet.cz/r/#/c/81/)

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Re: Split kde-baseapps?

2014-09-29 Thread Emmanuel Pescosta
 - dolphin: could be split out, I added emmanuel as a CC to know his
opinion

Thanks for adding me and sorry for the late response.

+1 for splitting up kde-baseapps
We can split off Dolphin as soon as Dolphin is konq-lib free (David has
already done a huge amount of work in this field :)

Cheers,
Emmauel

2014-09-25 1:01 GMT+02:00 Aleix Pol aleix...@kde.org:

 On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Luca Beltrame lbeltr...@kde.org wrote:

 Michael Palimaka wrote:

  Are there any plans to split frameworks-based kde-baseapps?

 IMO it would make sense first to consult with the various applications'
 maintainers and / or review what's in there and what should happen to it.


 Well let's see:
 - dolphin: could be split out, I added emmanuel as a CC to know his opinion
 - kdialog: should go to kde-cli-tools?
 - kioslave/about: I guess it should go either to kioslave-extras or
 konqueror itself. I guess it's here because the applications use it, so
 kioslave.
 - kfind: looks like it could be split. Doesn't look maintained, we can
 decide where to put it later on. It's an executable, so it's easy to move
 around.
 - konqplugins: By the name sounds like it should go wherever konqueror
 goes. Or do other applications use them?
 - nsplugins: same, wherever konqueror goes?
 - konqueror: split? David will read this for sure. :D

 I hope this helps.
 Aleix

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Re: Split kde-baseapps?

2014-09-25 Thread Treeve Jelbert
On Wednesday 24 September 2014 17:39:42 Luca Beltrame wrote:
 Michael Palimaka wrote:
  Are there any plans to split frameworks-based kde-baseapps?
 
 IMO it would make sense first to consult with the various applications'
 maintainers and / or review what's in there and what should happen to it.
for what it is worth, I was able to build all the bits which are already 
ported, except for konqueror, completely standalone, with the addition of a 
few small changes to CMake files.  
Konqueror currently fails to build in this configuration. Dolphin builds and 
runs.

Regards, Treeve
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Re: Split kde-baseapps?

2014-09-25 Thread David Edmundson
libkonq was discussed in the frameworks BOF at Akademy.

Some parts (konqoperations and such) will go into the KIO framework. I
think this has already been started. The rest will move into konqueror
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Split kde-baseapps?

2014-09-24 Thread Michael Palimaka
Hi,

Are there any plans to split frameworks-based kde-baseapps?

Best regards,
Michael

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Re: Split kde-baseapps?

2014-09-24 Thread Aleix Pol
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org
wrote:

 Hi,

 Are there any plans to split frameworks-based kde-baseapps?

 Best regards,
 Michael


Not that I know of, but it would probably make sense.

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Re: Split kde-baseapps?

2014-09-24 Thread Luca Beltrame
Michael Palimaka wrote:

 Are there any plans to split frameworks-based kde-baseapps?

IMO it would make sense first to consult with the various applications' 
maintainers and / or review what's in there and what should happen to it.

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Re: Split kde-baseapps?

2014-09-24 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dimecres, 24 de setembre de 2014, a les 17:39:42, Luca Beltrame va 
escriure:
 Michael Palimaka wrote:
  Are there any plans to split frameworks-based kde-baseapps?
 
 IMO it would make sense first to consult with the various applications'
 maintainers and / or review what's in there and what should happen to it.

+1

Cheers,
  Albert
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Re: Split kde-baseapps?

2014-09-24 Thread Aleix Pol
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Luca Beltrame lbeltr...@kde.org wrote:

 Michael Palimaka wrote:

  Are there any plans to split frameworks-based kde-baseapps?

 IMO it would make sense first to consult with the various applications'
 maintainers and / or review what's in there and what should happen to it.


Well let's see:
- dolphin: could be split out, I added emmanuel as a CC to know his opinion
- kdialog: should go to kde-cli-tools?
- kioslave/about: I guess it should go either to kioslave-extras or
konqueror itself. I guess it's here because the applications use it, so
kioslave.
- kfind: looks like it could be split. Doesn't look maintained, we can
decide where to put it later on. It's an executable, so it's easy to move
around.
- konqplugins: By the name sounds like it should go wherever konqueror
goes. Or do other applications use them?
- nsplugins: same, wherever konqueror goes?
- konqueror: split? David will read this for sure. :D

I hope this helps.
Aleix
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Re: Split kde-baseapps?

2014-09-24 Thread Luca Beltrame
Aleix Pol wrote:

 - kioslave/about: I guess it should go either to kioslave-extras or
 konqueror itself. I guess it's here because the applications use it, so
 kioslave.

I'm wondering how many use that KIO slave aside konqueror...

 - kfind: looks like it could be split. Doesn't look maintained, we can
 decide where to put it later on. It's an executable, so it's easy to move
 around.

Should it be part of the workspace?

 - konqplugins: By the name sounds like it should go wherever konqueror
 goes. Or do other applications use them?
 - nsplugins: same, wherever konqueror goes?

I've seen them used by konqueror only, but I have no experience in the area.

libkonq also lives in kde-baseapps, and that lib is used by dolphin at 
minimum (IIRC). 

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