Ausgerechnet ein Österreicher sorgt derzeit für heftige Diskussionen am
Community Informatik Sektor.
Gerhard Wagner schrieb in der Community Informatik Liste, dass Freie
Software keine wesentlichen ökonomischen Auswirkungen (im Sinn von
Atbeitsplätzen im IT Sektor) gehabt habe.
offen gestanden:
Wie immer in heutigen Zeiten ist ja die Äußerung eines Gedankens ein wenig
Mitformen der Realität.
Weil wir das nicht so sehen wollen, sind wir auch daran interessiert es zu
widerlegen.
sachdienliche Hinweise bitte an Michel Bauwens
Franz
- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -
Dear Rishab,
Gehrard Wagner here below makes the very strong claim that:
OSS did not create any
substantial number of jobs in the IT-sector.
Do you have any documentation on this topic that we could share, given
your involvement in the FLOSS studies?
Michel
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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 12:18:44 +0700
Subject: OSS jobs report
Dear Gehrard,
you write:
A recent scientific report on OSS revealed that did not create any
substantial number of jobs in the IT-sector.
Only distributors as Redhad benefited. Thats it.
Is is possible to have a reference,
I find this quite counter-intuitive, since I've heard from both floss
developers in kerala and ecuador that they have nearly 100% employment,
and purely anecdotally of course, 99% of the programmers I meet have jobs
... of course, they could be displacing other jobs and not creating new
ones,
so in any case, your report would be most interesting,
Michel
see [
http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/estimating-the-value-of-the-free-economy-at-300-billion/2008/07/31
]http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/estimating-the-value-of-the-free-economy-at-300-billion/2008/07/31
[
http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/estimating-the-value-of-the-free-economy-at-300-billion/2008/07/31
]Estimating the value of the free economy at 300 billion
[Image]
Michel Bauwens
31st July 2008
Chris Anderson has done [
http://www.longtail.com/the_long_tail/2008/07/how-big-is-the.html ]a
useful exercise to estimate the value of the really free economy (which
excludes free as a gimmick and advertising-supported media), which he
considers to be in the ballpark of $300 billion.
The article starts by explaining a typology of the free economy, which I
think has been done better elsewhere.
See here for [
http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/steve-bosserman-on-economic-sustainability-in-a-world-of-open-design/2008/02/19
]an alternative typology of the free economy (graphic [
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/steve_bosserman/2008/02/09/giving_it_away_making_money.htm
]here)
See also my own [
http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/what-kind-of-economy-are-we-moving-to-3-a-hierarchy-of-engagement-between-companies-and-communities/2007/10/05
]ladder of open business models.
Here is Chris Andersons calculation:
Open source software (service and support around free software):
* The Linux ecosystem (everything from RedHat to IBMs open source
consulting business) is around $30 billion today.
* Other companies built around open source, such as MySQL ($50m annual
revenues) and Sugar CRM ($15m), probably add up to less than $1 billion.
Free-to-play videogames:
* These are mostly online massively multiplayer games, which are free to
play but make money by charging the most dedicated gamers for digital
assets (upgrades, clothing, new levels, etc). They started in South Korea
and China (where theyre now a $1 billion business) and have now come to
the US, with games like Runescape and NeoPets.
* The casual games market (think everything from online card games to
flash games) is now at nearly $3 bill
