Re: [Kicad-developers] No hotkey for "Set Bus Entry Shape"

2020-05-31 Thread Kevin Cozens 

On 2020-05-31 3:41 p.m., Andy Peters wrote:
All right, I just checked in 5.1.6, and the usual X and Y mirror and R 
rotate hotkeys work.

[snip]
And it’s still an annoyance that you can’t see the entry before you 
place it. One _can_ see a part symbol (ghosted) as you move the mouse prior 
to placement, so for consistency the bus entry should work the same way. 


It would be good to see the bus entry shape before it gets placed. It (used 
to?) remember the previous selected shape for future placement but if the 
wrong shape comes up you wind up having to move it after rotating it. Being 
able to rotate it before you placing the bus entry would save a step.


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Re: [Kicad-developers] No hotkey for "Set Bus Entry Shape"

2020-05-31 Thread Andy Peters 

> On May 31, 2020, at 12:30 PM, Ian McInerney  wrote:
> 
> There are currently 2 actions on the Eeschema tool framework for changing the 
> bus entry shape, but they don't have a hotkey assigned by default. 
> Additionally, bus entries are able to be mirrored and rotated as normal 
> (using the hotkeys for those actions). So I guess the question is, do we need 
> to have explicit actions for changing the shape of the bus entry when all 
> that is really doing is a mirror/rotate and we allow that anyway?
> 
> -Ian

All right, I just checked in 5.1.6, and the usual X and Y mirror and R rotate 
hotkeys work. But … that’s not obvious, by which I mean if you right-click on 
the bus entry, the context menu does not offer those options like it does if 
you click on a part symbol. It only shows options to move the entry (M), change 
the shape and delete the entry. From the user perspective, then, the X/Y/R 
commands don’t exist. I can’t speak for any other users, but it seems to me 
that the context menu is useful for reminding the user about what commands are 
available/allowable for the thing under the cursor.

I agree that the action for changing the entry shape is redundant, but only if 
the mirror and rotate options are added to the context menu.

And it’s still an annoyance that you can’t see the entry before you place it. 
One _can_ see a part symbol (ghosted) as you move the mouse prior to placement, 
so for consistency the bus entry should work the same way. Place Junction also 
doesn’t show the junction before it’s placed, but at least you know it exists 
only at the mouse pointer.

-a

> 
> On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 8:05 PM Andy Peters  > wrote:
> 
> 
>> On May 31, 2020, at 6:12 AM, Wayne Stambaugh > > wrote:
>> 
>> Maybe it got dropped when Eeschema was ported to the new tool framework
>> or broken somewhere along the way.  I'm not seeing a way to change the
>> bus entry orientation on master in Linux either so I suspect it got
>> dropped.  I don't see a issue report for this on GitLab so please file
>> an issue so it doesn't get lost in developers mailing list.
> 
> 
> It’s good to know I’m not crazy.
> 
> Issue here: https://gitlab.com/kicad/code/kicad/-/issues/4588 
> 
> 
>> On 5/29/20 7:40 PM, Andy Peters wrote:
>>> In 5.1.6 schematics on macOS Catalina, which is what I’m using, and this 
>>> may be older …
>>> 
>>> When you choose “place wire to bus entry” (or the ‘z’ key) or “place bus to 
>>> bus entry” (or ‘/‘), you don’t see the entry until you click the mouse on 
>>> the schematic. And there’s no way to change the angle of the entry at 
>>> placement time. There is no hotkey entry for that option, and the only way 
>>> I can see to change it is to place the entry, get out of the place mode, 
>>> right-click select then entry and then choose “set bus entry shape” from 
>>> the context menu, and them move the entry to where you actually want it.
>>> 
>>> Yeah, that’s not good.
>>> 
>>> Am I missing something?


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Re: [Kicad-developers] No hotkey for "Set Bus Entry Shape"

2020-05-31 Thread Ian McInerney 
There are currently 2 actions on the Eeschema tool framework for changing
the bus entry shape, but they don't have a hotkey assigned by default.
Additionally, bus entries are able to be mirrored and rotated as normal
(using the hotkeys for those actions). So I guess the question is, do we
need to have explicit actions for changing the shape of the bus entry when
all that is really doing is a mirror/rotate and we allow that anyway?

-Ian

On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 8:05 PM Andy Peters  wrote:

>
>
> On May 31, 2020, at 6:12 AM, Wayne Stambaugh  wrote:
>
> Maybe it got dropped when Eeschema was ported to the new tool framework
> or broken somewhere along the way.  I'm not seeing a way to change the
> bus entry orientation on master in Linux either so I suspect it got
> dropped.  I don't see a issue report for this on GitLab so please file
> an issue so it doesn't get lost in developers mailing list.
>
>
>
> It’s good to know I’m not crazy.
>
> Issue here: https://gitlab.com/kicad/code/kicad/-/issues/4588
>
> On 5/29/20 7:40 PM, Andy Peters wrote:
>
> In 5.1.6 schematics on macOS Catalina, which is what I’m using, and this
> may be older …
>
> When you choose “place wire to bus entry” (or the ‘z’ key) or “place bus
> to bus entry” (or ‘/‘), you don’t see the entry until you click the mouse
> on the schematic. And there’s no way to change the angle of the entry at
> placement time. There is no hotkey entry for that option, and the only way
> I can see to change it is to place the entry, get out of the place mode,
> right-click select then entry and then choose “set bus entry shape” from
> the context menu, and them move the entry to where you actually want it.
>
> Yeah, that’s not good.
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> -a
>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] No hotkey for "Set Bus Entry Shape"

2020-05-31 Thread Andy Peters 


> On May 31, 2020, at 6:12 AM, Wayne Stambaugh  wrote:
> 
> Maybe it got dropped when Eeschema was ported to the new tool framework
> or broken somewhere along the way.  I'm not seeing a way to change the
> bus entry orientation on master in Linux either so I suspect it got
> dropped.  I don't see a issue report for this on GitLab so please file
> an issue so it doesn't get lost in developers mailing list.


It’s good to know I’m not crazy.

Issue here: https://gitlab.com/kicad/code/kicad/-/issues/4588 


> On 5/29/20 7:40 PM, Andy Peters wrote:
>> In 5.1.6 schematics on macOS Catalina, which is what I’m using, and this may 
>> be older …
>> 
>> When you choose “place wire to bus entry” (or the ‘z’ key) or “place bus to 
>> bus entry” (or ‘/‘), you don’t see the entry until you click the mouse on 
>> the schematic. And there’s no way to change the angle of the entry at 
>> placement time. There is no hotkey entry for that option, and the only way I 
>> can see to change it is to place the entry, get out of the place mode, 
>> right-click select then entry and then choose “set bus entry shape” from the 
>> context menu, and them move the entry to where you actually want it.
>> 
>> Yeah, that’s not good.
>> 
>> Am I missing something?
>> 
>> -a
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Re: [Kicad-developers] No hotkey for "Set Bus Entry Shape"

2020-05-31 Thread Wayne Stambaugh 
Maybe it got dropped when Eeschema was ported to the new tool framework
or broken somewhere along the way.  I'm not seeing a way to change the
bus entry orientation on master in Linux either so I suspect it got
dropped.  I don't see a issue report for this on GitLab so please file
an issue so it doesn't get lost in developers mailing list.

On 5/29/20 7:40 PM, Andy Peters wrote:
> In 5.1.6 schematics on macOS Catalina, which is what I’m using, and this may 
> be older …
> 
> When you choose “place wire to bus entry” (or the ‘z’ key) or “place bus to 
> bus entry” (or ‘/‘), you don’t see the entry until you click the mouse on the 
> schematic. And there’s no way to change the angle of the entry at placement 
> time. There is no hotkey entry for that option, and the only way I can see to 
> change it is to place the entry, get out of the place mode, right-click 
> select then entry and then choose “set bus entry shape” from the context 
> menu, and them move the entry to where you actually want it.
> 
> Yeah, that’s not good.
> 
> Am I missing something?
> 
> -a
> 
> 
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[Kicad-developers] No hotkey for "Set Bus Entry Shape"

2020-05-29 Thread Andy Peters 
In 5.1.6 schematics on macOS Catalina, which is what I’m using, and this may be 
older …

When you choose “place wire to bus entry” (or the ‘z’ key) or “place bus to bus 
entry” (or ‘/‘), you don’t see the entry until you click the mouse on the 
schematic. And there’s no way to change the angle of the entry at placement 
time. There is no hotkey entry for that option, and the only way I can see to 
change it is to place the entry, get out of the place mode, right-click select 
then entry and then choose “set bus entry shape” from the context menu, and 
them move the entry to where you actually want it.

Yeah, that’s not good.

Am I missing something?

-a


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