Re: [Kicad-developers] The developer mailing list did not work in my case

[Travis Ayres]

To those new to wxwidgets who may be on the Windows platform, wx-config is
available on windows as a separate project at

https://sites.google.com/site/wxconfig/

Put it in your path - it really helps
 On May 25, 2013 11:01 AM, "jean-pierre charras" 
wrote:

> On 05/25/2013 07:00 PM, Shane Volpe wrote:
>
>> I've been trying to get the samples together but I'm struggling with
>> getting KiCAD to compile.  I switched from Ubuntu to ArchLinux and
>> have had no luck getting KiCAD to compile under ArchLinux.  I keep
>> getting the following error:
>> usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_gtk2d_gl-2.8
>> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_gtk2d_aui-2.8
>> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_gtk2d_adv-2.8
>> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_gtk2d_html-2.8
>> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_gtk2d_core-2.8
>> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_based_net-2.8
>> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_based-2.8
>> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_based_xml-2.8
>>
>> I tried compiling wxgtk manually but still get the above errors, I'm
>> assuming there is some option(s) I'm missing when compiling wxgtk.
>> Can anyone point me in the right direction on what I might be doing
>> wrong.
>> Regards,
>> Shane
>>
>>
> try:
> wx-config --libs
> to see where wxGTK libs are expected to be.
> (be sure you have run make install after built wxGTK).
>
> jp charras
>
>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] The developer mailing list did not work in my case

[Shane Volpe]

All,
Thanks for the help.  It turns out I have to different versions of
wx-config installed 2.8 and 2.9.  I had removed 2.8 or so I thought,
the wx-config was still installed for it and set as the default
wx-config.  Once I fixed the symlink for wx-config and pointed it to
wx-config-2.9 everything started working!

On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 2:01 PM, jean-pierre charras
 wrote:
> On 05/25/2013 07:00 PM, Shane Volpe wrote:
>>
>> I've been trying to get the samples together but I'm struggling with
>> getting KiCAD to compile.  I switched from Ubuntu to ArchLinux and
>> have had no luck getting KiCAD to compile under ArchLinux.  I keep
>> getting the following error:
>> usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_gtk2d_gl-2.8
>> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_gtk2d_aui-2.8
>> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_gtk2d_adv-2.8
>> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_gtk2d_html-2.8
>> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_gtk2d_core-2.8
>> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_based_net-2.8
>> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_based-2.8
>> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_based_xml-2.8
>>
>> I tried compiling wxgtk manually but still get the above errors, I'm
>> assuming there is some option(s) I'm missing when compiling wxgtk.
>> Can anyone point me in the right direction on what I might be doing
>> wrong.
>> Regards,
>> Shane
>>
>
> try:
> wx-config --libs
> to see where wxGTK libs are expected to be.
> (be sure you have run make install after built wxGTK).
>
> jp charras
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] The developer mailing list did not work in my case

[jean-pierre charras]

On 05/25/2013 07:00 PM, Shane Volpe wrote:

I've been trying to get the samples together but I'm struggling with
getting KiCAD to compile.  I switched from Ubuntu to ArchLinux and
have had no luck getting KiCAD to compile under ArchLinux.  I keep
getting the following error:
usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_gtk2d_gl-2.8
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_gtk2d_aui-2.8
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_gtk2d_adv-2.8
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_gtk2d_html-2.8
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_gtk2d_core-2.8
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_based_net-2.8
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_based-2.8
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_based_xml-2.8

I tried compiling wxgtk manually but still get the above errors, I'm
assuming there is some option(s) I'm missing when compiling wxgtk.
Can anyone point me in the right direction on what I might be doing
wrong.
Regards,
Shane



try:
wx-config --libs
to see where wxGTK libs are expected to be.
(be sure you have run make install after built wxGTK).

jp charras



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Re: [Kicad-developers] The developer mailing list did not work in my case

[Dick Hollenbeck]

On May 25, 2013 12:01 PM, "Shane Volpe"  wrote:
>
> I've been trying to get the samples together but I'm struggling with
> getting KiCAD to compile.  I switched from Ubuntu to ArchLinux and
> have had no luck getting KiCAD to compile under ArchLinux.  I keep
> getting the following error:
> usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_gtk2d_gl-2.8
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_gtk2d_aui-2.8
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_gtk2d_adv-2.8
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_gtk2d_html-2.8
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_gtk2d_core-2.8
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_based_net-2.8
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_based-2.8
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_based_xml-2.8

Where is the above text coming from?
What you want to share with us is the linker command line and error output.

All of it.

$ make VERBOSE=1  2>&1  > linkfail.txt

Cmake has to be given a working wx-config program too.

>
> I tried compiling wxgtk manually but still get the above errors, I'm
> assuming there is some option(s) I'm missing when compiling wxgtk.
> Can anyone point me in the right direction on what I might be doing
> wrong.
> Regards,
> Shane
>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] The developer mailing list did not work in my case

[Travis Ayres]

Hi Shane,

I'm no expert, but it looks like the linker can't find the wxgtk library.
Did you compile it in an odd directory, perchance?

-Travis


On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Shane Volpe  wrote:

> I've been trying to get the samples together but I'm struggling with
> getting KiCAD to compile.  I switched from Ubuntu to ArchLinux and
> have had no luck getting KiCAD to compile under ArchLinux.  I keep
> getting the following error:
> usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_gtk2d_gl-2.8
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_gtk2d_aui-2.8
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_gtk2d_adv-2.8
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_gtk2d_html-2.8
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_gtk2d_core-2.8
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_based_net-2.8
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_based-2.8
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_based_xml-2.8
>
> I tried compiling wxgtk manually but still get the above errors, I'm
> assuming there is some option(s) I'm missing when compiling wxgtk.
> Can anyone point me in the right direction on what I might be doing
> wrong.
> Regards,
> Shane
>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] The developer mailing list did not work in my case

[Shane Volpe]

I've been trying to get the samples together but I'm struggling with
getting KiCAD to compile.  I switched from Ubuntu to ArchLinux and
have had no luck getting KiCAD to compile under ArchLinux.  I keep
getting the following error:
usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_gtk2d_gl-2.8
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_gtk2d_aui-2.8
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_gtk2d_adv-2.8
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_gtk2d_html-2.8
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_gtk2d_core-2.8
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_based_net-2.8
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_based-2.8
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_based_xml-2.8

I tried compiling wxgtk manually but still get the above errors, I'm
assuming there is some option(s) I'm missing when compiling wxgtk.
Can anyone point me in the right direction on what I might be doing
wrong.
Regards,
Shane

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Re: [Kicad-developers] The developer mailing list did not work in my case

[Dick Hollenbeck]

On 05/15/2013 04:17 PM, Alexander Lunev wrote:
> 
> "Note: we have feedback from users/developers only for the Eagle importer."
> 
> *I have got that feedback. Users/developers communicate with me directly.*
> *If pcad2kicadsch was in lp:kicad, I think they would send reports to the 
> developer
> mailing list instead.*
> *
> *
> *My resentment is not about "lp:kicad/stable" but "lp:kicad".*
> *
> *
> *P.S.:*
> *Jean-Pierre, I think you had better openly tell about your / lp:kicad team 
> intentions*
> *concerning KICAD_GOST here, on the developer mailing list.*
> *Who is silent about intentions, again me?*
> *
> *
> *GOST users/developers should know this and act correspondingly.*
> *
> *
> *Alexander.*


Alexander,

Warning.  I find this to be an attempt to intimidate, and I find it to be 
dis-respectful
of a lead developer.  It is a duplication of an email that was sent a day or so 
ago, this
time highlighted in white.

If you want to remain a part of KiCad developers mailing list, you will have to 
amend your
attitude.  Really it is that simple.  Its been 3 weeks since I threw somebody 
off this
mailing list, it may be time for another.

As a warning, I am suspending your participation on the list for 3 days as a 
result of
this specific posting.

No one should think that it is acceptable to insult or intimidate the lead 
developers, or
any significant contributors, and remain a part of this team.


Dick



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Re: [Kicad-developers] The developer mailing list did not work in my case

[Alexander Lunev]

"Note: we have feedback from users/developers only for the Eagle importer."


I have got that feedback. Users/developers communicate with me directly.
If pcad2kicadsch was in lp:kicad, I think they would send reports to the 
developer mailing list instead.

My resentment is not about "lp:kicad/stable" but "lp:kicad".

P.S.:
Jean-Pierre, I think you had better openly tell about your / lp:kicad team 
intentions
concerning KICAD_GOST here, on the developer mailing list.
Who is silent about intentions, again me?

GOST users/developers should know this and act correspondingly.

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Re: [Kicad-developers] The developer mailing list did not work in my case

[jp charras]

Le 15/05/2013 15:12, Shane Volpe a écrit :

Jp,
Thanks for the response.  I will certainly put together some schematics for
testing and also I'm more than willing to do testing.  I had provided a PCB
file to aid in the development of Pcad2kicad and will love to do so for the
schematic portion as well.  I should be able to post something early next
week.  Should I just post the schematics/lib to this list or is there a
better place to post them?
Shane



Currently, I am thinking the best place is
/bazaar.launchpad.net/~kicad-gost-committers/kicad/pcad2kicad project,
in extra/pcad2kicadsch/
in a folder like test_files.
This kind of tool needs some test files for regression tests.





On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 3:59 AM, jp charras  wrote:


Le 15/05/2013 01:35, Shane Volpe a écrit :

  I to want to voice my disappointment in not having the schematic portion

merged.  If there are problems please clearly list them so others can fix
them.
Regards,
Shane



Pcad2kicad was finalized in march 2013, and made compatible with the
Pcbnew plugin mechanism to include importers.
The pcb converter was integrated in pcbnew and tested :bugs and other
issues fixed by Alexander (thanks to Alexander).
and i was able to include it just in time in the stable release (march
2013 for the first version.)

A stable version take some time to be fully finalized: Doc update, libs
update, bug fixes, and so on... (and is not fully finalized)
The schematic portion was postponed, because I did not have a chance to
test it, and the stable version (and other fixes in testing version) took
me some time.

Note: we have feedback from users/developers only for the Eagle importer.

Therefore: no feedback from users or developers, not a lot of time to test
the schematic converter (currently I do not have pcad schematic files for a
fast test), and no Eeschema importer mechanism lead me we have some time to
merge it (and to write a doc or enhance the readme to use it).
It also can be left as an external tool, because the Pcad2kicad schematic
converter is freely accessible.

It can be used/tested even it is not included in the current kicad version.
Your disappointment certainly means you need this converter, and therefore
your are able to test it, send us a schematic/lib file for tests and
enhance the readme (if needed).

the GOST-doc-gen is an other story.

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Re: [Kicad-developers] The developer mailing list did not work in my case

[Shane Volpe]

Jp,
Thanks for the response.  I will certainly put together some schematics for
testing and also I'm more than willing to do testing.  I had provided a PCB
file to aid in the development of Pcad2kicad and will love to do so for the
schematic portion as well.  I should be able to post something early next
week.  Should I just post the schematics/lib to this list or is there a
better place to post them?
Shane



On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 3:59 AM, jp charras  wrote:

> Le 15/05/2013 01:35, Shane Volpe a écrit :
>
>  I to want to voice my disappointment in not having the schematic portion
>> merged.  If there are problems please clearly list them so others can fix
>> them.
>> Regards,
>> Shane
>>
>
> Pcad2kicad was finalized in march 2013, and made compatible with the
> Pcbnew plugin mechanism to include importers.
> The pcb converter was integrated in pcbnew and tested :bugs and other
> issues fixed by Alexander (thanks to Alexander).
> and i was able to include it just in time in the stable release (march
> 2013 for the first version.)
>
> A stable version take some time to be fully finalized: Doc update, libs
> update, bug fixes, and so on... (and is not fully finalized)
> The schematic portion was postponed, because I did not have a chance to
> test it, and the stable version (and other fixes in testing version) took
> me some time.
>
> Note: we have feedback from users/developers only for the Eagle importer.
>
> Therefore: no feedback from users or developers, not a lot of time to test
> the schematic converter (currently I do not have pcad schematic files for a
> fast test), and no Eeschema importer mechanism lead me we have some time to
> merge it (and to write a doc or enhance the readme to use it).
> It also can be left as an external tool, because the Pcad2kicad schematic
> converter is freely accessible.
>
> It can be used/tested even it is not included in the current kicad version.
> Your disappointment certainly means you need this converter, and therefore
> your are able to test it, send us a schematic/lib file for tests and
> enhance the readme (if needed).
>
> the GOST-doc-gen is an other story.
>
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Re: [Kicad-developers] The developer mailing list did not work in my case

[jp charras]

Le 15/05/2013 01:35, Shane Volpe a écrit :

I to want to voice my disappointment in not having the schematic portion
merged.  If there are problems please clearly list them so others can fix
them.
Regards,
Shane


Pcad2kicad was finalized in march 2013, and made compatible with the 
Pcbnew plugin mechanism to include importers.
The pcb converter was integrated in pcbnew and tested :bugs and other 
issues fixed by Alexander (thanks to Alexander).
and i was able to include it just in time in the stable release (march 
2013 for the first version.)


A stable version take some time to be fully finalized: Doc update, libs 
update, bug fixes, and so on... (and is not fully finalized)
The schematic portion was postponed, because I did not have a chance to 
test it, and the stable version (and other fixes in testing version) 
took me some time.


Note: we have feedback from users/developers only for the Eagle importer.

Therefore: no feedback from users or developers, not a lot of time to 
test the schematic converter (currently I do not have pcad schematic 
files for a fast test), and no Eeschema importer mechanism lead me we 
have some time to merge it (and to write a doc or enhance the readme to 
use it).
It also can be left as an external tool, because the Pcad2kicad 
schematic converter is freely accessible.


It can be used/tested even it is not included in the current kicad version.
Your disappointment certainly means you need this converter, and 
therefore your are able to test it, send us a schematic/lib file for 
tests and enhance the readme (if needed).


the GOST-doc-gen is an other story.

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Re: [Kicad-developers] The developer mailing list did not work in my case

[Shane Volpe]

I to want to voice my disappointment in not having the schematic portion
merged.  If there are problems please clearly list them so others can fix
them.
Regards,
Shane
On May 14, 2013 6:31 PM, "Alexander Lunev"  wrote:

> Jean-Pierre and Wayne, you have let me know that the root of the problem
> is I was silent about my intentions.
>
> The short review of what happened:
>
> 1) [31 Aug 2008]:
> https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg01689.html
> "> ...
> > I think, for users, better to have something than nothing!
> > Is it required to have a different homepage for pcad2kicad?
> > May be better to integrate it directly in to the KiCad?
> > ...
> > Igor Plyatov
>
> Would anybody object if PCAD to KiCad converter were integrated to KiCad?
> Alexander Lunev"
>
> 2) Dick Hollenbeck wrote: "No objection from me."
>
> So only Dick responded. It was clear to me that nobody disagreed.
>
> Unfortunately the long break took place here.
>
> 3) [08 Jun 2012]: I started to rewrite pcad2kicad from Delphi to c++.
>
> 4) [10 Jun 2012]:
> https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg08429.html
> Alexander Lunev wrote: "Hi. Would you add me to the team?"
>
> 5) [11 Jun 2012]:
> https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg08435.html
> Alexander Lunev wrote: "I had been granted a write permission to Kicad
> SVN repository since 2008. At the same time I was involved to pcad2kicad
> project and added polygons support. pcad2kicad is mostly written in Delphi.
> It was agreed to rewrite pcad2kicad in C++ in order to integrate it into
> Kicad and provide the opportunity for more people to be involved in the
> developing process.
> Unfortunately, since that time both the former of pcad2kicad and I had had
> no spare time to continue the development. But now I have just started to
> develop a new device and I want to use Kicad for that. So I need to convert
> some libraries into Kicad and decided to resume my plans with pcad2kicad
> converter. That is why I created the pcad2kicad branch that you noticed
> some days ago.
>
> P.S. Several weeks ago I tried to find Kicad project in old locations,
> firstly on the sourceforge.net Wiki. But there are some issues. As I
> understood, Kicad developing group was removed from Yahoo and I do not know
> why. I think I missed much. And now I see that Kicad is on Launchpad and
> Bazaar repo is used where I have not got the write permission. So there are
> many surprises to me."
>
> No reaction except Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo.
>
> 6) [15 Jun 2012]: I completed rewriting pcad2kicad from Delphi to c++ and
> fixed the main bug concerning the recursion. At this point pcad2kicad was
> ready to use. I requested merge with lp:kicad.
>
> 7) [24 Jun 2012]: I received Wayne's respond:
> "PCAD import support would be a welcome addition to KiCad but I am not
> thrilled about adding another stand alone executable to KiCad. My
> preference would be to add a PCAD plug-in to Pcbnew..."
>
> 8) [25 Jun 2012]: I asked Wayne: "What about translating P-Cad libraries?"
> No reaction.
>
> 9) [27 Jun 2012]: I decided to agree and started to rewrite pcad2kicad to
> make it Pcbnew plugin.
>
> 10) [07 Jul 2012]: I published eeschema-plugin blueprint:
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kicad/+spec/eeschema-plugin and assigned
> Jean-Pierre as an approver: "This Eeschema plug-in is necessary to
> support new ones such as Eagle, P-Cad and other plug-ins for Eeschema. It
> is supposed that the Eeschema plug-in mechanism needs to be very similar to
> the one implemented in Pcbnew."
> No reaction.
>
> 11) I continued trying to agree with Wayne and Jean-Pierre fulfilling
> their ideas again and again. Every time I tried to believe that all will be
> OK.
>
> 12) 6 months passed and at last Jean-Pierre merged pcad2kicadpcb to
> lp:kicad!
> For some unknown to me reason pcad2kicadsch is still not merged into
> lp:kicad!
> Today is 15 May, 2013.
> Moreover, still there is not a write access to lp:kicad!
>
> The same ignoring situation is with GOST-doc-gen and the component manager.
>
> I have ultimately stopped hoping anything positive from the team.
>
> Alexander
>
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