[kicad-users] Errtype19 and 23
Hi --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, fuzzyviv fuzzy...@... wrote: But be sure to check your gerbers and drill files in either gerbv on linux, or any gerber viewer in windows before sending. Specially drill files. I used the following settings for drill file dialog and it works- suppress leading zeros precision 2:4 origin - absolute minimal header yes mirror y axis - no Hi, We are doing a project [1]. After Pcb Design Rules Check in PCBnew, I got two kinds of err, type 19[2] and type 23[3]. Do you think that those err are serious? From them, I am assuming they are detected because of judgement from kicad default settings. Also I followed and made settings as [4] and tried to create drill file[5], then I used a popular windows CAM gerber viewer to check it but I got err [6], do you think this is not caused by any potential errs we didn't know? Thanks Adam [1] http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/board-qi-avt2/ [2] http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/hardware/qi_avt2/RC2/report/layout_note/20100104/drc_control_errtype19.jpg [3] http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/hardware/qi_avt2/RC2/report/layout_note/20100104/drc_control_errtype23.jpg [4] http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/hardware/qi_avt2/RC2/report/layout_note/20100104/drill_files_generation.jpg [5] http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/hardware/qi_avt2/RC2/report/layout_note/20100104/Qi_AVT2.drl [6] http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/hardware/qi_avt2/RC2/report/layout_note/20100104/DRLREAD.ERR
[kicad-users] PCB house in northern Europe
Dear all, I'm looking for a PCB production house in the Benelux+Germany area (preferably in the Netherlands) to produce prototype PCBs (= low quantities) of my KiCad designs. (this is where everybody says that KiCad rocks. Yes it does!!!) I do not require very fancy capabilities, my designs are rather simple dual-layer boards with SMD components, but I was wondering if anybody in this mailing list had any good experience with a particular production house in Benelux and KiCad-generated boards. I'm also a complete newbie, these will be my very first boards, therefore I could really use a PCB house with a friendly, helpful, informal attitude. Thank you, Dimitris
Re: [kicad-users] My schematics I want to share but if it is not a print screen the output gets
If you just want a screen snapshot use a screen snapshot, there are many available,and most distros have one already installed. (Ksnapshot is one example) If that is not what you want, then investigate printing to postscript format, that is usually a very good representation of the page. You will need to check if Ubuntu has all the ghostscript type utilities installed. If it has you will simply be able to open a postscript file and view it. Andy On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 02:01:26 - josh_eeg josh...@gmail.com wrote: My schematics I want to share but if it is not a print screen the output gets lost. I lowered the pen size to print to pdf. I tried plotting to svg. should I then use inkscape to turn it into a png or gif people without kicad can see on my webpage? I am using ubuntu linux should I get some kind of font or do a surtain thing to get a image similar to a screen shot of the schematics? Please read the Kicad FAQ in the group files section before posting your question. Please post your bug reports here. They will be picked up by the creator of Kicad. Please visit http://www.kicadlib.org for details of how to contribute your symbols/modules to the kicad library. For building Kicad from source and other development questions visit the kicad-devel group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-develYahoo! Groups Links
Re: [kicad-users] Module Editor
There is NO save as such for individual modules. You need to go through the tutorial regarding module creation and such like. Basically: Multiple modules are contained in a library. You need to select the library in which to work. Once you have selected the library the save in working library icon will become active. You then edit or create your module, when you click on the save in working library the module will be included in the library that you have selected. The emp files are used for exporting a module to a file for easy transfer of modules. These are created by the export module, and read by the import module icons. You need to ensure that your pin numbers on the Eeschema part, and the pin numbers on your module match or the routing will not work. Andy On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:27:19 -0500 juliorz juli...@bellsouth.net wrote: I created a footprint for a 9 Volt battery using Module Editor but, it only allows me to save it in *.EMP format I ended up exporting the footprint directly on to my board, but this created additional problems with ERC check. I had to manually route the tracks to the 9 Volt battery footprint, and let autoroute do the rest. My approach did NOT work!, it generated ERC errors. ERC check is claiming that a track and pad (the positive and negative from the 9 Volt footprint that I created) are too close. This a fake ERC error, the pads IS supoused to connect to that track (otherwise the circuit would NOT have power) I need to create a footprint for the 9 Volt battery that I can use from the beginning of the design, so that CVPCB has access to it them and can incorporate it into the netlist.
RE: [kicad-users] Module Editor
Thanks Andy, I will look at the tutorial for creating modules. _ From: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:kicad-us...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Eskelson Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 12:47 PM To: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [kicad-users] Module Editor There is NO save as such for individual modules. You need to go through the tutorial regarding module creation and such like. Basically: Multiple modules are contained in a library. You need to select the library in which to work. Once you have selected the library the save in working library icon will become active. You then edit or create your module, when you click on the save in working library the module will be included in the library that you have selected. The emp files are used for exporting a module to a file for easy transfer of modules. These are created by the export module, and read by the import module icons. You need to ensure that your pin numbers on the Eeschema part, and the pin numbers on your module match or the routing will not work. Andy On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:27:19 -0500 juliorz juli...@bellsouth. mailto:juliorz%40bellsouth.net net wrote: I created a footprint for a 9 Volt battery using Module Editor but, it only allows me to save it in *.EMP format I ended up exporting the footprint directly on to my board, but this created additional problems with ERC check. I had to manually route the tracks to the 9 Volt battery footprint, and let autoroute do the rest. My approach did NOT work!, it generated ERC errors. ERC check is claiming that a track and pad (the positive and negative from the 9 Volt footprint that I created) are too close. This a fake ERC error, the pads IS supoused to connect to that track (otherwise the circuit would NOT have power) I need to create a footprint for the 9 Volt battery that I can use from the beginning of the design, so that CVPCB has access to it them and can incorporate it into the netlist.
[kicad-users] components power supply when several power supplies
Hi all, My design has two 5V power supplies. One is permanent and the other is switched for low consumption. Some components (most?) in library have their power pins invisible and attached to a net (VCC or VDD for instance) Is there an other solution than making the modification on each component to put the power pins visible in order to wire some components on my switched +5V and some other on my permanent +5V ? Regards Stephane
Re: [kicad-users] Bus ?
Buses make the circuit diagram much more readable, and thus less prone to mistakes. Try reading a circuit with a dozen or more parallel tramlines and you will soon discover how much easier they make things. :-) Andy On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 19:15:38 +0100 Stephrac74 stephra...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Hi, I’m adding a bus and just wondering a stuff. I guess the bus and bus entries are just esthetic figures, aren’t they ? Because adding the net name is enough to make the net… Am I right ? Is there an other interest of bus instead of esthetic ? Best Stephane
RE: [kicad-users] Bus ?
Hi Andy, I fully agree. I was just wondering if it was simply esthetic or not. And you confirm that yes it is… Thanks Stephane De : kicad-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:kicad-us...@yahoogroups.com] De la part de Andy Eskelson Envoyé : lundi 4 janvier 2010 19:30 À : kicad-users@yahoogroups.com Objet : Re: [kicad-users] Bus ? Buses make the circuit diagram much more readable, and thus less prone to mistakes. Try reading a circuit with a dozen or more parallel tramlines and you will soon discover how much easier they make things. :-) Andy On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 19:15:38 +0100 Stephrac74 stephra...@wanadoo.fr mailto:stephrac74%40wanadoo.fr wrote: Hi, I’m adding a bus and just wondering a stuff. I guess the bus and bus entries are just esthetic figures, aren’t they ? Because adding the net name is enough to make the net… Am I right ? Is there an other interest of bus instead of esthetic ? Best Stephane --- Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a été contrôlé par l'anti-virus mail. Aucun virus connu à ce jour par nos services n'a été détecté. image001.jpgimage002.jpg
Re: [kicad-users] Kicad and GPL license
Hi, The programm is GPL. Your designs are yours and you can apply the license you want. Pedro. Hi, I also wanted to know how the Kicad licensing works, is it just the source code that is GPL or all schematics created from Kicad also are GPL ? and how about the component libararies ? Thanks in advance Regards yukku
Re: [kicad-users] Pcbnew crash while filling a zone
Does ANYTHING actually run right on Vista? I would try Windows 7 or Linux (Ubuntu is my favorite) before spending time on Windows ME (if there is even a version for that). I run KiCad on XP, Windows 7 and Ubuntu, all with great success. Now one day when I figure out all of the dependencies I will build from scratch. (That's an entirely other story...) Greg From: yukku yukkoo yukku19752...@yahoo.com To: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, December 31, 2009 8:28:05 AM Subject: Re: [kicad-users] Pcbnew crash while filling a zone Well I am actually using Windows Vista.. maybe thats the problem... does Kicad 16 Feb version work on Vista ? If it does not I also have a Windows ME machine .. let me know if I can install on it. Regards yukku From: Andy Eskelson andyya...@g0poy.co.uk To: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, December 31, 2009 7:27:57 PM Subject: Re: [kicad-users] Pcbnew crash while filling a zone Nothing wrong with it or your method at all, it fills perfectly, merging the ground tracks as you would expect. Must be something odd about your install. I use the linux kicad-2009-02- 16-final- CENTOS_4. 4.tgz archive, running it on a SUSE 11.1 install at the moment. If you are running on windows, check your graphic card drivers and ensure that are up to date. Sometimes they can cause all sorts of odd effects and crashes. (I'm not referring to kicad here, but more generally) As a zone fill is very much an operation that the OS may use the graphic card functions to do, it's worth checking. It might even be worth turning off any high-end graphic card funbction to see if that gives you any clues. Andy On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 02:52:33 -0800 (PST) yukku yukkoo yukku19752000@ yahoo.com wrote: Hi Andy and all, I followed the procedure given in the Pcbnew help .pdf file, and I still get a crash while trying to fill the Ground zone on a 2 layer board. I am attaching the .brd file in this mail. It was saved just before attempting the refill. Can you open it and see what I have not done right ? Sorry if this is some more newbie issues. Thanks for the help yukku
[kicad-users] Re: Installing KiCad, but not in usr/share/
Hiya, thanks for the response. Here's what i've done. Downloaded kicad-2009-02-26-final-UBUNTU_8.10.tgz from KiCad website. Used Archive Manager to extract kicad folder to desktop. Opened Rootterminal to move kicad folder from desktop to usr/local/ with sudo mv kicad/ usr/local/ Then copied kicad.desktop from usr/local/kicad/bin/kicad/ to desktop (kicad icon appears on desktop!) NOTE: Files in usr/local/ are unaffected by updates, so libraries will remain. Also, i now have permission to edit/add libraries. Thank you. --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Dimitris Lampridis d.lampri...@... wrote: On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 17:27:31 - Werner wernervanderstra...@... wrote: Hello, i'm running Ubuntu Karmic Koala. I've installed KiCad via the Ubuntu Software Centre. Next i create a new part in the current loaded library. Then i try to update the library file but get an error: not possible because no access to file This is because the library is in usr/share/KiCad/Library. And this is a root owned folder. When i remove KiCad from the system via the Ubuntu Software Centre, the KiCad folder with content remains in usr/share/ Would it be safe to change the ownership from root to my personal login? How did you install KiCad without losing permission to make changes to the library folder? Thanks... Dear Werner, Modifying directly the /usr/share/kicad files, either as root or by changing folder permissions is dangerous, not because of security, but because your Ubuntu installation will overwrite your modified files in case a newer kicad package is introduced in the Ubuntu repositories. As a result, the package upgrade will erase all of your custom components, replacing the files with the new ones from the package. Therefore, IMO, it is much better to make your own libraries of custom components somewhere within your home folder, or something like /usr/local, where your operating system cannot interfere. Cheers, Dimitris
Re: [kicad-users] Kicad and GPL license
The GPL has restrictions about derived work. Anything that you do with Kicad is made with kicad, so it has no restrictions. BUT.. there is a catch!!! Your schematics and board contains parts of the library and modules, and thus are derived work of those. You have to beware of these licences :( BUT... again The GPL restriction is only for *distribution*, so if you do not distribute (not even to a subsidiary) the restriction does not apply. As an exaple, GCC has a different licence for the compiler and for the library. There are even compatible libraries with different licences... Alain yukku yukkoo escreveu: Hi, I also wanted to know how the Kicad licensing works, is it just the source code that is GPL or all schematics created from Kicad also are GPL ? and how about the component libararies ? Thanks in advance Regards yukku
[kicad-users] Re: I was adding silk screen lables to my connectors is their a way to make sil
Edit the module (footprint) in the module editor and add Text labels (the T tool). Save your new/updated module and each time you use it there will be text labels you can edit in pcbnew by right-clicking on them. You can also just select a silkscreen layer in pcbnew and use the T tool to add labels, but these are design specific. --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, josh_eeg josh...@... wrote: I was adding silk screen lables to my connectors is their a way to make sil connectors have silk screen lables for eatch pad like the schematic symbols on a dip chip or the numbers on its pads?
[kicad-users] Re: My schematics I want to share but if it is not a print screen the output get
If your output gets lost while printing it is likely that your schematic size and print page size are incompatible. For example, your schematic sheet may be size A4 while your print size is letter, which is slightly smaller. Make sure both are the same. Use the smallest sheet size your schematic will fit inside. You can adjust sheet size using the sheet info tool in eeschema. It is the 4th button from the left in the top tool bar. --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Andy Eskelson andyya...@... wrote: If you just want a screen snapshot use a screen snapshot, there are many available,and most distros have one already installed. (Ksnapshot is one example) If that is not what you want, then investigate printing to postscript format, that is usually a very good representation of the page. You will need to check if Ubuntu has all the ghostscript type utilities installed. If it has you will simply be able to open a postscript file and view it. Andy On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 02:01:26 - josh_eeg josh...@... wrote: My schematics I want to share but if it is not a print screen the output gets lost. I lowered the pen size to print to pdf. I tried plotting to svg. should I then use inkscape to turn it into a png or gif people without kicad can see on my webpage? I am using ubuntu linux should I get some kind of font or do a surtain thing to get a image similar to a screen shot of the schematics? Please read the Kicad FAQ in the group files section before posting your question. Please post your bug reports here. They will be picked up by the creator of Kicad. Please visit http://www.kicadlib.org for details of how to contribute your symbols/modules to the kicad library. For building Kicad from source and other development questions visit the kicad-devel group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-develYahoo! Groups Links
Re: [kicad-users] My schematics I want to share but if it is not a print screen the output gets
What I sometimes do is plot the output to a postscript file, then open the postscript file with GIMP and then scale it, crop it, and whatever, and then save it as a jpeg for publishing on the web. --Mike On January 3, 2010 09:01:26 pm you wrote: My schematics I want to share but if it is not a print screen the output gets lost. I lowered the pen size to print to pdf. I tried plotting to svg. should I then use inkscape to turn it into a png or gif people without kicad can see on my webpage? I am using ubuntu linux should I get some kind of font or do a surtain thing to get a image similar to a screen shot of the schematics?
