RE: [kicad-users] Re: SIlk screen covers pad
Steve, Thanks for the confirmation. Misery loves company! Bob From: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:kicad-us...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Weigold Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 6:12 PM To: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [kicad-users] Re: SIlk screen covers pad mmabshaffer wrote: Martin, I looked at the gerber files and the unwanted lines are there! Please look at one of your gerbers and see if they have the unwanted lines also. Bob --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com mailto:kicad-users%40yahoogroups.com , kajdas mailto:kaj...@... kaj...@... wrote: I used these parts before and the way I understand it is: that the pads do not get silk-screened so it does not matter. Fixing them will not change anything(?). Martin mmabshaffer bob.shaf...@... wrote: I have noticed that many footprints in the library include silkscreen component outlines that cover that component pad. This seems like a problem to me. Before I edit all the library footprints to remove these component outline I thought I would check with this group of users to see if I'm missing a concept. An example of such a footprint is the -1206 footprint in the ref-packages.mod library. Thanks, Bob Bob, Probably not what you wanted to hear, but I found the same thing. I've only done one board on KiCad, so I'm not an expert by any stretch. I edited the footprints I was using. Steve image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: [kicad-users] Specifying footprints using the EESchema Footprint field
Robert, Since it works for you, I tried it again and this time the $noname was replaced by the footprint name in the netlist. Maybe I did something wrong the first time I tried it. In your experience, the .CMP file generated by CVPCB was not needed by PCBNEW? Thanks, Bob From: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:kicad-us...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 3:21 AM To: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [kicad-users] Specifying footprints using the EESchema Footprint field I can tell you that it is possible to enter the footprint in this field and completely bypass CVPCB because that's what I do. I don't know why it's not working for you though, as I didn't have to do anything special. Regards, Robert. mmabshaffer wrote: Is it possible to specify a part's footprint using the EESchema Footprint field instead of using CVPCB? I tried it and the resulting netlist still had the $noname place holders. When I started up CVPCB is showed no footprint sssociations. Bob Please read the Kicad FAQ in the group files section before posting your question. Please post your bug reports here. They will be picked up by the creator of Kicad. Please visit http://www.kicadlib.org for details of how to contribute your symbols/modules to the kicad library. For building Kicad from source and other development questions visit the kicad-devel group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-develYahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.12.94/2208 - Release Date: 06/29/09 05:54:00 image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: [kicad-users] Busses between sheets
Greg, Great suggestion! I added the net labels to the problem busses in my real design and all looks good! Maybe it’s the net names that are the real “connections” Now I’ll have to move on to the layout. I sure appreciate you taking the time to help. Thanks, Bob From: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:kicad-us...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Dyess Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:25 PM To: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [kicad-users] Busses between sheets [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Greg Dyess included below] I was stumped for a while. Then when I added a net label to the bus (like you would a wire) everything worked out just fine.. I'm not sure if that is the correct answer, but it cleaned up the errors and the net list showed everything connected correctly. Greg _ From: Bob Shaffer bob.shaf...@micromod.com To: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 4:17:09 PM Subject: [kicad-users] Busses between sheets [1 Attachment] [ http://us.mg4.mail.yahoo.com/dc/blank.html?bn=1357.22.intl=us.lang=en-US#TopText Attachment(s) from Bob Shaffer included below] HI all I am hoping I can impose on you again. I am still having difficulty getting a bus to propagate properly from one sheet to another. It is behaving as though the hierarchical connection doesn’t exit. ERC indicates that the buss connection isn’t there and if I generate a netlist, there are no connections! Would someone be willing to take a quick look at the attached project an see if you can again spot the error I am making? In this test case, I am only concerned with the buss. I realize there are other issues that need to be addressed to get a clean ERC. Thanks, Bob From: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:kicad-us...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Dyess Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 1:36 PM To: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [kicad-users] Bad Bus Label error message when making netlist Been there, done that myselftoo many times. Glad I could help someone for once! Greg _ From: Bob Shaffer bob.shaf...@micromod.com To: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:41:29 AM Subject: RE: [kicad-users] Bad Bus Label error message when making netlist Greg, Well…. I’m so embarrassed! That was it. Thanks again for your help. Bob From: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:kicad-us...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Dyess Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:23 PM To: kicad-us...@yahoogroups..com Subject: Re: [kicad-users] Bad Bus Label error message when making netlist Try changing the label to A_BUS[0..15] instead of A_BUS[0,15] (Note the ... instead of ,). In addition, I will load up your schematic and try to see what I can see. Greg _ From: Bob Shaffer bob.shaf...@micromod.com To: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:13:47 AM Subject: RE: [kicad-users] Bad Bus Label error message when making netlist [1 Attachment] [ http://us..mg4.mail.yahoo.com/dc/blank.html?bn=1357.22.intl=us.lang=en-US#TopText Attachment(s) from Bob Shaffer included below] Greg, I appreciate you taking the time to help me! The attached files represent a simple test design that illustrate my problem. When I try to connect the two sheets together by drawing a Bus between A_BUS[0,15] on Sheet A to A_BUS[0,15] on Sheet B I get a popup error message “Bad Bus Label”. If I ignore the message and attempt to generate a netlist, I get the same error message. Bob From: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:kicad-us...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Dyess Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:23 AM To: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [kicad-users] Bad Bus Label error message when making netlist My initial guesses would be: 1. You used a local label instead of a global label or net name. 2. Somehow numbers were not the last characters in the individual nets or the bus was not the prefix of the net names. 3. Buses in KiCAD are not like computer busses. Only nets with the same prefix followed by numbers are allowed in the bus. A0, A1, A2 in bus A[0..2] is a valid bus but WR, RD, CLK in bus Control is not valid. (I did all of the above starting out) It's difficult to analyze without seeing what you have done. If you email me directly with the archived project files I can load it up and see. Greg _ From: mmabshaffer bob.shaf...@micromod.com To: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 5:02:04 PM Subject: [kicad-users] Bad Bus Label error message when making netlist I just tried using KiCad for capturing a schematic and all went well until I tried to generate the netlist.. I get a Bad Bus Label error popup message for each bus. The design is a hierarchical design with busses going between sheets. Can anyone give me a hint as to what I am doing wrong
[kicad-users] Busses between sheets [1 Attachment]
HI all I am hoping I can impose on you again. I am still having difficulty getting a bus to propagate properly from one sheet to another. It is behaving as though the hierarchical connection doesn’t exit. ERC indicates that the buss connection isn’t there and if I generate a netlist, there are no connections! Would someone be willing to take a quick look at the attached project an see if you can again spot the error I am making? In this test case, I am only concerned with the buss. I realize there are other issues that need to be addressed to get a clean ERC. Thanks, Bob From: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:kicad-us...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Dyess Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 1:36 PM To: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [kicad-users] Bad Bus Label error message when making netlist Been there, done that myselftoo many times. Glad I could help someone for once! Greg _ From: Bob Shaffer bob.shaf...@micromod.com To: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:41:29 AM Subject: RE: [kicad-users] Bad Bus Label error message when making netlist Greg, Well…. I’m so embarrassed! That was it. Thanks again for your help. Bob From: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:kicad-us...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Dyess Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:23 PM To: kicad-us...@yahoogroups..com Subject: Re: [kicad-users] Bad Bus Label error message when making netlist Try changing the label to A_BUS[0..15] instead of A_BUS[0,15] (Note the ... instead of ,). In addition, I will load up your schematic and try to see what I can see. Greg _ From: Bob Shaffer bob.shaf...@micromod.com To: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:13:47 AM Subject: RE: [kicad-users] Bad Bus Label error message when making netlist [1 Attachment] [ http://us.mg4.mail.yahoo.com/dc/blank.html?bn=1357.22.intl=us.lang=en-US#TopText Attachment(s) from Bob Shaffer included below] Greg, I appreciate you taking the time to help me! The attached files represent a simple test design that illustrate my problem. When I try to connect the two sheets together by drawing a Bus between A_BUS[0,15] on Sheet A to A_BUS[0,15] on Sheet B I get a popup error message “Bad Bus Label”. If I ignore the message and attempt to generate a netlist, I get the same error message. Bob From: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:kicad-us...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Dyess Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:23 AM To: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [kicad-users] Bad Bus Label error message when making netlist My initial guesses would be: 1. You used a local label instead of a global label or net name. 2. Somehow numbers were not the last characters in the individual nets or the bus was not the prefix of the net names. 3. Buses in KiCAD are not like computer busses. Only nets with the same prefix followed by numbers are allowed in the bus. A0, A1, A2 in bus A[0..2] is a valid bus but WR, RD, CLK in bus Control is not valid. (I did all of the above starting out) It's difficult to analyze without seeing what you have done. If you email me directly with the archived project files I can load it up and see. Greg _ From: mmabshaffer bob.shaf...@micromod.com To: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 5:02:04 PM Subject: [kicad-users] Bad Bus Label error message when making netlist I just tried using KiCad for capturing a schematic and all went well until I tried to generate the netlist. I get a Bad Bus Label error popup message for each bus. The design is a hierarchical design with busses going between sheets. Can anyone give me a hint as to what I am doing wrong? Please read the Kicad FAQ in the group files section before posting your question. Please post your bug reports here. They will be picked up by the creator of Kicad. Please visit http://www.kicadlib.org http://www.kicadlib.org/ for details of how to contribute your symbols/modules to the kicad library. For building Kicad from source and other development questions visit the kicad-devel group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-develYahoo! Groups Links Attachment(s) from Bob Shaffer 1 of 1 File(s) Image removed by sender. TestBoard.zip http://d.yimg.com/kq/groups/16027698/1772850888/name/TestBoard.zip image001.jpg
RE: [kicad-users] Bad Bus Label error message when making netlist [1 Attachment]
Greg, I appreciate you taking the time to help me! The attached files represent a simple test design that illustrate my problem. When I try to connect the two sheets together by drawing a Bus between A_BUS[0,15] on Sheet A to A_BUS[0,15] on Sheet B I get a popup error message Bad Bus Label. If I ignore the message and attempt to generate a netlist, I get the same error message. Bob From: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:kicad-us...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Dyess Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:23 AM To: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [kicad-users] Bad Bus Label error message when making netlist My initial guesses would be: 1. You used a local label instead of a global label or net name. 2. Somehow numbers were not the last characters in the individual nets or the bus was not the prefix of the net names. 3. Buses in KiCAD are not like computer busses. Only nets with the same prefix followed by numbers are allowed in the bus. A0, A1, A2 in bus A[0..2] is a valid bus but WR, RD, CLK in bus Control is not valid. (I did all of the above starting out) It's difficult to analyze without seeing what you have done. If you email me directly with the archived project files I can load it up and see. Greg _ From: mmabshaffer bob.shaf...@micromod.com To: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 5:02:04 PM Subject: [kicad-users] Bad Bus Label error message when making netlist I just tried using KiCad for capturing a schematic and all went well until I tried to generate the netlist. I get a Bad Bus Label error popup message for each bus. The design is a hierarchical design with busses going between sheets. Can anyone give me a hint as to what I am doing wrong? Please read the Kicad FAQ in the group files section before posting your question. Please post your bug reports here. They will be picked up by the creator of Kicad. Please visit http://www.kicadlib.org http://www.kicadlib.org/ for details of how to contribute your symbols/modules to the kicad library. For building Kicad from source and other development questions visit the kicad-devel group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-develYahoo! Groups Links image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: [kicad-users] Bad Bus Label error message when making netlist
Greg, Well…. I’m so embarrassed! That was it. Thanks again for your help. Bob From: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:kicad-us...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Dyess Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:23 PM To: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [kicad-users] Bad Bus Label error message when making netlist Try changing the label to A_BUS[0..15] instead of A_BUS[0,15] (Note the .. instead of ,). In addition, I will load up your schematic and try to see what I can see. Greg _ From: Bob Shaffer bob.shaf...@micromod.com To: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:13:47 AM Subject: RE: [kicad-users] Bad Bus Label error message when making netlist [1 Attachment] [ http://us.mg4.mail.yahoo.com/dc/blank.html?bn=1357.22.intl=us.lang=en-US#TopText Attachment(s) from Bob Shaffer included below] Greg, I appreciate you taking the time to help me! The attached files represent a simple test design that illustrate my problem. When I try to connect the two sheets together by drawing a Bus between A_BUS[0,15] on Sheet A to A_BUS[0,15] on Sheet B I get a popup error message “Bad Bus Label”. If I ignore the message and attempt to generate a netlist, I get the same error message. Bob From: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:kicad-us...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Dyess Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:23 AM To: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [kicad-users] Bad Bus Label error message when making netlist My initial guesses would be: 1. You used a local label instead of a global label or net name. 2. Somehow numbers were not the last characters in the individual nets or the bus was not the prefix of the net names. 3. Buses in KiCAD are not like computer busses. Only nets with the same prefix followed by numbers are allowed in the bus. A0, A1, A2 in bus A[0..2] is a valid bus but WR, RD, CLK in bus Control is not valid. (I did all of the above starting out) It's difficult to analyze without seeing what you have done. If you email me directly with the archived project files I can load it up and see. Greg _ From: mmabshaffer bob.shaf...@micromod.com To: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 5:02:04 PM Subject: [kicad-users] Bad Bus Label error message when making netlist I just tried using KiCad for capturing a schematic and all went well until I tried to generate the netlist. I get a Bad Bus Label error popup message for each bus. The design is a hierarchical design with busses going between sheets. Can anyone give me a hint as to what I am doing wrong? Please read the Kicad FAQ in the group files section before posting your question. Please post your bug reports here. They will be picked up by the creator of Kicad. Please visit http://www.kicadlib.org http://www.kicadlib.org/ for details of how to contribute your symbols/modules to the kicad library. For building Kicad from source and other development questions visit the kicad-devel group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-develYahoo! Groups Links Attachment(s) from Bob Shaffer 1 of 1 File(s) Image removed by sender. TestBoard.zip http://d.yimg.com/kq/groups/16027698/1772850888/name/TestBoard.zip ~WRD000.jpgimage001.jpgimage002.jpg
