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--- Comment #25 from Katrin Fischer  ---
Hm, I think think this doesn't fix what was reported as the bug initially:

comment#1
The seasonal (season, day and month) prediction it doesn't change according the
 locale defined in the patterns, the pattern uses always the language of the
staff user interface.

I believe that the expectation here is that it should work like months/day of
week do. You should be able to use the Locale setting of the subscription to
determine the language used for the generated strings, so that it matches with
what is printed on the issue. These are not meant to be multi-lingual, but to
match the 'original' printed version.

What this patch does is actually the bug: It makes the description switch
depending on the GUI language used.

Before this patch (tested in 20.11):

Staff interface: German
Locale: German
Preview pattern: German
Serial collection: German
Edit serials: English
OPAC: English
Database: English

With this patch set:

Staff interface: *English*
Locale: Spanish
Preview pattern: English
Serial collection: English
Edit serials: English
OPAC: English
Database: English

Update translations, switch interface to German:

Staff interface: *German*
Locale: Spanish
Preview pattern: German
Subscription detail view: German
Serial collection German
Edit serials: English (!) (input fields)
Database: English
Staff detail view: German
Late issues/claims: German

OPAC detail page - Subscription: English
OPAC brief history: English 
Full history: English

Conclusion:

1) This makes the display more consistent in the staff interface. OPAC has been
missed and should work the same as staff.

2) Locale setting is ignored for seasons. This makes seasons work different to
the other formatted strings. This doesn't sit well with me, because it's also
an inconsistency, but I am not sure there is a fix as I believe the library
used for other strings just doesn't support seasons. :( If we agree on the
different behavior we should document it. Suggestion: Extend the hint below the
Locale pull down by: "Not used for seasons."

3) Removing the limited support for abbreviated seasons is a little issue. We
can hardly remove the setting if libraries have used it, but is it really
useful if it works only for English? A compromise could be to add a hint to the
entry in the formatting pull down: "Name of season (abbreviated, English)"


What could help here in the future would be a feature to define your own
"formatted strings" as a list of authorised values (thought I had filed that...
but can't find it). Codes would be numerical, AV would be the string used and
we could use them to extend the list of available formats. I had requests for
Roman numbering and we could also imagine someone wanting to do Japanese
numbering or similar. This could help solve that issue. (I'll file later if
people like it :) )

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Bug 20511: Remove translation support for short version of season

Everything get messy when we translate "Sum", then "Summer" as it's a
substring.

Signed-off-by: Florian Bontemps 

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Bug 20511: Make seasons translatable in prediction pattern

The season is stored in the DB in English and but not translated when
displayed on the interface.
This patch will translate the different seasons and their short form
('Spr' for 'Spring').

Test plan:
Update the PO of the language you like
Edit po/xx-XX-messages.po and translate the season names
Setup a new language and use it for the staff interface
Create a new subscription using the "Seasonal" subscription pattern
Generate new serial items and confirm that the seasons are correctly
translated when displayed

Sponsored-by: Orex Digital
Signed-off-by: Florian Bontemps 

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--- Comment #22 from Katrin Fischer  ---
Could you please rebase?

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--- Comment #21 from Jonathan Druart  ---
(In reply to Katrin Fischer from comment #20)
> I am a little worried by the patch comments:
> 
> >Remove translation support for short version of season
> 
> >The season is stored in the DB in English and but not translated when
> >displayed on the interface.
> 
> I am not sure if that is correct?
> 
> If a translated GUI is used, you will have created a string (serialseq I
> tihnk) using the numberpattern that contains the translation of the season.
> 
> Will this still work as before after the patches?

The only thing this patch is doing is to translate the season names (stored in
serialseq) in the language of the interface.
If you have "Summer" and you browse in French, you will see "Été" instead. No
data in DB is modified.

The short versions are not supported, "Sum" will not be translatable.

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--- Comment #20 from Katrin Fischer  ---
I am a little worried by the patch comments:

>Remove translation support for short version of season

>The season is stored in the DB in English and but not translated when
>displayed on the interface.

I am not sure if that is correct?

If a translated GUI is used, you will have created a string (serialseq I tihnk)
using the numberpattern that contains the translation of the season.

Will this still work as before after the patches?

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--- Comment #19 from Florian  ---
Comment on attachment 135775
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Bug 13614: Compiled CSS

Apologies, not sure how that one sneaked in there

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--- Comment #18 from Florian  ---
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Bug 20511: Remove translation support for short version of season

Everything get messy when we translate "Sum", then "Summer" as it's a
substring.

Signed-off-by: Florian Bontemps 

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--- Comment #17 from Florian  ---
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Bug 20511: Make seasons translatable in prediction pattern

The season is stored in the DB in English and but not translated when
displayed on the interface.
This patch will translate the different seasons and their short form
('Spr' for 'Spring').

Test plan:
Update the PO of the language you like
Edit po/xx-XX-messages.po and translate the season names
Setup a new language and use it for the staff interface
Create a new subscription using the "Seasonal" subscription pattern
Generate new serial items and confirm that the seasons are correctly
translated when displayed

Sponsored-by: Orex Digital
Signed-off-by: Florian Bontemps 

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Bug 13614: Compiled CSS

Signed-off-by: Tomas Cohen Arazi 

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--- Comment #15 from Jonathan Druart  ---
Created attachment 135505
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Bug 20511: Remove translation support for short version of season

Everything get messy when we translate "Sum", then "Summer" as it's a
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--- Comment #14 from Jonathan Druart  ---
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Bug 20511: Make seasons translatable in prediction pattern

The season is stored in the DB in English and but not translated when
displayed on the interface.
This patch will translate the different seasons and their short form
('Spr' for 'Spring').

Test plan:
Update the PO of the language you like
Edit po/xx-XX-messages.po and translate the season names
Setup a new language and use it for the staff interface
Create a new subscription using the "Seasonal" subscription pattern
Generate new serial items and confirm that the seasons are correctly
translated when displayed

Sponsored-by: Orex Digital

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--- Comment #13 from Jonathan Druart  ---
Yes, it should work if "Summer" is translated in the po file.

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--- Comment #12 from Hugo Agud  ---
url:
https://staff-bug20511.sandboxes.biblibre.eu/cgi-bin/koha/serials/subscription-add.pl?op=modify=1

screenshot:
https://orex.es/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/Captura-de-pantalla-2022-04-08-a-las-13.00.39.png

but I still have no way of accessing to .po, sorry

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--- Comment #11 from Jonathan Druart  ---
Hum, may have found a bug however. This patch should fix a weirdness in
translation.

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Bug 20511: Remove translation support for short version of season

Everything get messy when we translate "Sum", then "Summer" as it's a
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--- Comment #9 from Jonathan Druart  ---
(In reply to Hugo Agud from comment #8)
> Hi
> 
> Pattern offer you the chance of define {x}, {y} , {z}... it is often use
> only one season, but there are certain serials that will need two season
> patter
> 
> number: springer-summer, winter-auttum for example.
> 
> when use season two times in the same pattern, koha it only translate one,
> perhaps it also happens with the rest of days, months...etc

I don't recreate the problem.

Please post a screenshot of:
1. The "Numbering patterns" edit view
/cgi-bin/koha/serials/subscription-numberpatterns.pl?op=modify=XXX
2. The view where you are seeing the problem

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--- Comment #8 from Hugo Agud  ---
Hi

Pattern offer you the chance of define {x}, {y} , {z}... it is often use only
one season, but there are certain serials that will need two season patter

number: springer-summer, winter-auttum for example.

when use season two times in the same pattern, koha it only translate one,
perhaps it also happens with the rest of days, months...etc

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--- Comment #7 from Jonathan Druart  ---
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> I a trying to test into sandbox, but i have no way of updating po.
> 
> I have seen that If I the pattern include to season like spring-summer, it
> only translates one of two.
> 
> sample
> NúmeroFecha de publicación
> Vol. Primavera, Number Summer, Issue 004/01/2022
> Vol. Verano, Number Fall, Issue 1 07/01/2022
> Vol. Otoño, Number Winter, Issue 210/01/2022
> Vol. Winter, Number Primavera, Issue 301/01/2023

How did you generate that? On which page?

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 20511] Seasonal prediction just in the staff language

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--- Comment #6 from Hugo Agud  ---
I a trying to test into sandbox, but i have no way of updating po.

I have seen that If I the pattern include to season like spring-summer, it only
translates one of two.

sample
Número  Fecha de publicación
Vol. Primavera, Number Summer, Issue 0  04/01/2022
Vol. Verano, Number Fall, Issue 1   07/01/2022
Vol. Otoño, Number Winter, Issue 2  10/01/2022
Vol. Winter, Number Primavera, Issue 3  01/01/2023

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 20511] Seasonal prediction just in the staff language

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 20511] Seasonal prediction just in the staff language

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--- Comment #5 from Jonathan Druart  ---
(In reply to Owen Leonard from comment #4)
> (In reply to Jonathan Druart from comment #3)
> 
> > Generate new serial items and confirm that the seasons are correctly
> > translated when displayed
> 
> Where will this information appear?

You should see the season translated everywhere it's displayed (not when it
appears in an input however).
So on the catalogue/detail.pl tab "Subscriptions", or the subscription detail
view (/serials/subscription-detail.pl?subscriptionid=1)

You need to:
gulp po:update --lang es-ES
cd misc/translate
Edit po/es-ES-messages.po, translate the season names
./translate install es-ES
restart_all (strings are cached)

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 20511] Seasonal prediction just in the staff language

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--- Comment #4 from Owen Leonard  ---
(In reply to Jonathan Druart from comment #3)

> Generate new serial items and confirm that the seasons are correctly
> translated when displayed

Where will this information appear?

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 20511] Seasonal prediction just in the staff language

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--- Comment #3 from Jonathan Druart  ---
Created attachment 130751
  -->
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=130751=edit
Bug 20511: Make seasons translatable in prediction pattern

The season is stored in the DB in English and but not translated when
displayed on the interface.
This patch will translate the different seasons and their short form
('Spr' for 'Spring').

Test plan:
Update the PO of the language you like
Edit po/xx-XX-messages.po and translate the season names
Setup a new language and use it for the staff interface
Create a new subscription using the "Seasonal" subscription pattern
Generate new serial items and confirm that the seasons are correctly
translated when displayed

Sponsored-by: Orex Digital

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 20511] Seasonal prediction just in the staff language

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Referenced Bugs:

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[Bug 11262] Don't require hardcoded translations for seasonal numbering pattern
to work
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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 20511] Seasonal prediction just in the staff language

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--- Comment #2 from Caroline Cyr La Rose  ---
Hi All,

I confirm this is still the case.

Test plan:
0- Make sure you have at least one language other than English installed
1- With staff interface in English, create a subscription with a seasonal
numbering pattern and frequency, with locale in your other language
2- Check the prediction pattern, note that the season names are in English not
the locale language
3- Change the staff interface to other language, redo the prediction pattern
test with locale in other language, note that the season names are in other
language

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--- Comment #1 from Katrin Fischer  ---
I can confirm this behaviour on master.

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