KR> Cowl hinge

[Lee Van Dyke]

I should have mentioned that I want to attach the hinge without the use of 
rivets on the top cowl.  I have located a few web sites that show how to attach 
the hinge with rivets, but I have a clear coat carbon fiber top cowl that I 
don't want to see rivets on.  I think I can just glass in the hinge if I put 
large enough holes in.

Lee Van Dyke 

KR> Astrovan main gear legs

[M]

Bob,
They are 26 inches,  I just cut the bar in half.  No I have not flown it yet.  
I did not test them,  but I felt they would be plenty strong. If they can hold 
the weight of a KR2 in a horizontal position. I would think they could hold 
even more at a 45 degree angle. You can also gain more height by just making 
the lower brackets longer. I also put a web on the inside of  the lower 
brackets, extended those webs below the bottom of the axle to use as a jack 
point to change a tire. 
 My top brackets are 9 inches (as much as I could get and stay inside the 
wing)  on the slant, so that only leaves about a 17 inch arm to the bottom of 
the leg. I don't know if it will handle a 5 g landing but it might. Maybe I can 
get Mark L. to test it for me. lol 
 I'm sure someone could do the math on what that bar could handle at a 45 
degree angle verses a horz. bar at given weights, the arms and  g  factors.  
After 60 my brain doesn't want to do anything anymore. So for all you young 
brains out there, get to work on this, I would kind of like to know myself. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: bearlk...@aol.com 
  To: kr...@mylist.net 
  Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 3:58 PM
  Subject: Re: KR> Astrovan main gear legs



   Mike,
  I bought and tested some astro van legs a couple of years back, and found 
them too flexible to hold the weight of a Kr2 and a safety factor of 1.5.
  Being shy of prop strike, I shelved the astro van legs and went another 
direction. A couple of questions- how long are your gear legs, and (your 
message implies it has not yet flown) how did you test them?
  Bob Polgreen
  Nowthen MN

KR> Dan F. question

[Glenn Martin]

I'm not familiar with how to do this. Is there any way we can ALL sign 
and send him An Electronic get well card with all of us on the card? 
Sorta like passing on around at work?

Glenn Martin
Owner
Martek Mississippi
13238 Hudson-Krohn Rd
Biloxi, MS, 39532
rep...@martekmississippi.com

KR> Bad News: N4DD Down at MVN

[J L]

Very sorry to hear that. That does not sound good...

Hope things get better.

Jeff

On 9/17/09, David Mullins  wrote:
>
> Latest on Dan:
>
> He was transported from the local Mt Vernon hospital to one in St. Louis.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> David Mullins wrote:
>> Just a short note that N4DD crashed on landing today at Mt. Vernon.
>> Dan Freeman has some good cuts and scrapes on his head, arms and
>> feet, but should pull through. He is currently at a local hospital being
>> treated for his injuries.
>>
>> I almost had the crash in pictures as I was walking out of the terminal
>> to shoot the first KR arrival as he touched down and bounced back up
>> into the air. A gust of wind pushed him further up into the air. He
>> tried to
>> correct and get the nose down when the gust subsided and he fell 30+
>> feet to the ground.
>>
>> He hit with the nose down and the right wing down. The plane slid the
>> length of the taxiway, about 130 ft. The right wing folded under the
>> fuselage. The engine and instrument  were broken off and swung back
>> along the fuselage side.
>>
>> Will give an update on Dan's condition once I hear something.
>>
>>
>> Dave Mullins
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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KR> Bad News: N4DD Down at MVN

[LG McCaw]

I'm sure most of the KRNet will agree, he'll be in our thoughts &
prayers.  Hoping for a speedy recovery.

LGM


-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
Behalf Of David Mullins
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 5:06 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> Bad News: N4DD Down at MVN

Just a short note that N4DD crashed on landing today at Mt. Vernon.
Dan Freeman has some good cuts and scrapes on his head, arms and
feet, but should pull through. 

Dave Mullins

KR> Gathering / Performance Eval

[J L]

The plane is gassed up and the bag is packed. Leaving Waupaca WI in
the morning. Hope to be there before noon.

See you there!

Jeff Lange
Sonerai 1463J

KR> VW oil viscosity

[Dan Heath]

Phil,

I am going to go with the recommendation forwarded on from Joe Horvath at
Revmaster, and that is to use 10 W 50.  I am also using  Valvoline, but
don't really know why I chose that one.  I do not have a problem with
overheating, in fact, I have the opposite, on the Oil temp.  I will let you
know how it works out.

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2009 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Ill
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

-Original Message-
From: krnet-bounces+danrh=windstream@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+danrh=windstream@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Phillip
Matheson
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 5:11 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> VW oil viscosity

VW Engines Aust, who also race there engines, only want me to use 40 grade 
Valvoline. They it removes heat better.

Here is interesting oils on oil.
http://www.valvoline.com.au/pdf/Essential%20Guide%20to%20Motor%20Oil%20Broch
ure%20FINAL.pdf

Phil Matheson
SAAA Ch. 20  http://www.saaa20.org/
VH-PKR
Australia

EMAIL:   phillipmathe...@bigpond.com
KR Web Page: www.philskr2.50megs.com


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From: "phil brookman" 
To: ; "KRnet" 
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: KR> VW oil viscosity


i tried 15/40 and it actually gave me more revs at take off
so much so i thought about more pitch onn the prop
however when hot i did not like the oil pressure
i like to see 10psi / 1000 rpm  so went back to 20/50
interesting though more power on thinner oil
phill





From: Bob Lee 
To: KRnet 
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:05:43 PM
Subject: RE: KR> VW oil viscosity

Mike wrote:

<>

You might want to reconsider using synthetic in a air cooled motor.  One of
the big selling points of synthetic oil is "reduced oil tempreature".
Unfortunately, this is not a good thing for us because the oil temperature
is reduced by the oil's inability to accept heat.  Therefore, the synthetic
oil cannot carry the heat to the cooler as well as petrolium oil.  This
results in an engine that is running hotter even though the oil temperature
is cooler.

When you think about it, friction is a small part of the total engine heat
compared to heat of combustion.  So even if synthetic oil reduces friction,
it does not significantly reduce the overall engine heat load.  Synthetic
oils are great for jets or water cooled engines.  In an air cooled engine
the oil system provides a significant amount of the cooling and pertolium
oil is better at transfering heat to the cooler.

Regards,


Bob Lee
N52BL  KR2
Suwanee, GA  USA
92% done only 67% to go!


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KR> Bad News: N4DD Down at MVN

[David Mullins]

Latest on Dan:

He was transported from the local Mt Vernon hospital to one in St. Louis.

Dave



David Mullins wrote:
> Just a short note that N4DD crashed on landing today at Mt. Vernon.
> Dan Freeman has some good cuts and scrapes on his head, arms and
> feet, but should pull through. He is currently at a local hospital being
> treated for his injuries.
>
> I almost had the crash in pictures as I was walking out of the terminal
> to shoot the first KR arrival as he touched down and bounced back up
> into the air. A gust of wind pushed him further up into the air. He 
> tried to
> correct and get the nose down when the gust subsided and he fell 30+
> feet to the ground.
>
> He hit with the nose down and the right wing down. The plane slid the
> length of the taxiway, about 130 ft. The right wing folded under the
> fuselage. The engine and instrument  were broken off and swung back
> along the fuselage side.
>
> Will give an update on Dan's condition once I hear something.
>
>
> Dave Mullins
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   
>>   
>> 
>
>
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KR> Bad News: N4DD Dan F. and trip to KMVN

[william Clapp]

Dan, we are all praying for you and your recovery.   Sorry to hear about your 
bird but your health and life are so much more valuable to us.   Keep your 
spirit up and get well.  

N41768 and I wont be making it to KMVN this year due to bad weather on this end 
and requirement that I be here on Sunday.   I sure hope that all of you will 
have a good time and learn a lot.  Make sure to take lots of pictures for us 
homebound boys and girls to enjoy!   Missing all of you and your company.   Bill
 
Bill Clapp - Aeromax Aviation Manager
 KR2S builder and pilot 
Valdosta, GA
aeromaxaviation.com / billclapp.com
 





From: David Mullins 
To: KRnet 
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 6:06:23 PM
Subject: KR> Bad News: N4DD Down at MVN

Just a short note that N4DD crashed on landing today at Mt. Vernon.
Dan Freeman has some good cuts and scrapes on his head, arms and
feet, but should pull through. He is currently at a local hospital being
treated for his injuries.

I almost had the crash in pictures as I was walking out of the terminal
to shoot the first KR arrival as he touched down and bounced back up
into the air. A gust of wind pushed him further up into the air. He 
tried to
correct and get the nose down when the gust subsided and he fell 30+
feet to the ground.

He hit with the nose down and the right wing down. The plane slid the
length of the taxiway, about 130 ft. The right wing folded under the
fuselage. The engine and instrument  were broken off and swung back
along the fuselage side.

Will give an update on Dan's condition once I hear something.


Dave Mullins






>
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KR> Bad News: N4DD Down at MVN

[Glenn Martin]

I am glad to hear that Dan is still amongst us. God speed your recovery Dan!

-- 
Glenn Martin
KR2 N1333A
Martek Mississippi
13238 Hudson-Krohn Rd
Biloxi, MS, 39532
rep...@martekmississippi.com

KR> Bad News: N4DD Down at MVN

[Barry Kruyssen]

Sorry to hear, Give Dan our my best wishes and hope he gets out of hospital
before you guys drink all the beverages.

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of David Mullins
Sent: Friday, 18 September 2009 8:06 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> Bad News: N4DD Down at MVN

Just a short note that N4DD crashed on landing today at Mt. Vernon.
Dan Freeman has some good cuts and scrapes on his head, arms and
feet, but should pull through. He is currently at a local hospital being
treated for his injuries.

I almost had the crash in pictures as I was walking out of the terminal
to shoot the first KR arrival as he touched down and bounced back up
into the air. A gust of wind pushed him further up into the air. He 
tried to
correct and get the nose down when the gust subsided and he fell 30+
feet to the ground.

He hit with the nose down and the right wing down. The plane slid the
length of the taxiway, about 130 ft. The right wing folded under the
fuselage. The engine and instrument  were broken off and swung back
along the fuselage side.

Will give an update on Dan's condition once I hear something.


Dave Mullins






>
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KR> Bad News: N4DD Down at MVN

[David Mullins]

Just a short note that N4DD crashed on landing today at Mt. Vernon.
Dan Freeman has some good cuts and scrapes on his head, arms and
feet, but should pull through. He is currently at a local hospital being
treated for his injuries.

I almost had the crash in pictures as I was walking out of the terminal
to shoot the first KR arrival as he touched down and bounced back up
into the air. A gust of wind pushed him further up into the air. He 
tried to
correct and get the nose down when the gust subsided and he fell 30+
feet to the ground.

He hit with the nose down and the right wing down. The plane slid the
length of the taxiway, about 130 ft. The right wing folded under the
fuselage. The engine and instrument  were broken off and swung back
along the fuselage side.

Will give an update on Dan's condition once I hear something.


Dave Mullins






>
>   

KR> Astrovan main gear legs

[bearlk...@aol.com]

 Mike,
I bought and tested some astro van legs a couple of years back, and found them 
too flexible to hold the weight of a Kr2 and a safety factor of 1.5.
Being shy of prop strike, I shelved the astro van legs and went another 
direction. A couple of questions- how long are your gear legs, and (your 
message implies it has not yet flown) how did you test them?
Bob Polgreen
Nowthen MN







-Original Message-
From: M 
To: KRnet 
Sent: Thu, Sep 17, 2009 11:47 am
Subject: Re: KR> Astrovan main gear legs










 Marlyn,
I used the spring bar from the old retract system, cut it into and attached 
them 
to the landing gear brackets which I also built out of 4130, 1/8" . I put two 
small webs, just to add a little strength and made some holes to save weight. 
I epoxyed foam on the front and back of the legs and shaped them to an airfoil, 
then put one layer of cloth.  I built the upper gear bracket with an 8 degree 
incidence. Don't know if I will get any lift out of them, but the main reason I 
did this was to take the (toe in) out of the wheel alignment. (tail dragger)  
The other thing is they look cool, and reduced the weight of the landing gear 
quite a bit over those heavy aluminum brackets. 
I also painted both the steel brackets and the aluminum bar so as to not have 
any direct contact between two dissimilar metals, so no corrosion can set in. 
The lower brackets, I made of 1/4" 4130, same width as the alum bar about 8" 
long, I cut most of the way through on an angle to make it plumb with the 
aircraft in level position. I then bent it and filled the opening with weld.
 Before I cut anything I made cardboard (highly recommend) templates of bracket 
and gear legs and used small spring clamps to put them in place and check 
everything for alignment. After putting all this together and checking with all 
the gear and wheels on, I am now sitting at -0- toe in/toe out. I don't have 
all 
the weight on the gear yet so that may change.
I doubt if I have a hundred dollars in the whole setup.
Your results may vary.

Mike Turner
Edgewood NM, USA 
     
  Marlyn Taylor
  541-344-6709
  Eugene, OR 97405
  marly...@efn.org


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KR> VW oil viscosity

[Phillip Matheson]

VW Engines Aust, who also race there engines, only want me to use 40 grade 
Valvoline. They it removes heat better.

Here is interesting oils on oil.
http://www.valvoline.com.au/pdf/Essential%20Guide%20to%20Motor%20Oil%20Brochure%20FINAL.pdf

Phil Matheson
SAAA Ch. 20  http://www.saaa20.org/
VH-PKR
Australia

EMAIL:   phillipmathe...@bigpond.com
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- Original Message - 
From: "phil brookman" 
To: ; "KRnet" 
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: KR> VW oil viscosity


i tried 15/40 and it actually gave me more revs at take off
so much so i thought about more pitch onn the prop
however when hot i did not like the oil pressure
i like to see 10psi / 1000 rpm  so went back to 20/50
interesting though more power on thinner oil
phill





From: Bob Lee 
To: KRnet 
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:05:43 PM
Subject: RE: KR> VW oil viscosity

Mike wrote:

<>

You might want to reconsider using synthetic in a air cooled motor.  One of
the big selling points of synthetic oil is "reduced oil tempreature".
Unfortunately, this is not a good thing for us because the oil temperature
is reduced by the oil's inability to accept heat.  Therefore, the synthetic
oil cannot carry the heat to the cooler as well as petrolium oil.  This
results in an engine that is running hotter even though the oil temperature
is cooler.

When you think about it, friction is a small part of the total engine heat
compared to heat of combustion.  So even if synthetic oil reduces friction,
it does not significantly reduce the overall engine heat load.  Synthetic
oils are great for jets or water cooled engines.  In an air cooled engine
the oil system provides a significant amount of the cooling and pertolium
oil is better at transfering heat to the cooler.

Regards,


Bob Lee
N52BL  KR2
Suwanee, GA  USA
92% done only 67% to go!


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KR> Astrovan main gear legs

[M]

 Marlyn,
I used the spring bar from the old retract system, cut it into and attached 
them to the landing gear brackets which I also built out of 4130, 1/8" . I put 
two small webs, just to add a little strength and made some holes to save 
weight. 
I epoxyed foam on the front and back of the legs and shaped them to an airfoil, 
then put one layer of cloth.  I built the upper gear bracket with an 8 degree 
incidence. Don't know if I will get any lift out of them, but the main reason I 
did this was to take the (toe in) out of the wheel alignment. (tail dragger)  
The other thing is they look cool, and reduced the weight of the landing gear 
quite a bit over those heavy aluminum brackets. 
I also painted both the steel brackets and the aluminum bar so as to not have 
any direct contact between two dissimilar metals, so no corrosion can set in. 
The lower brackets, I made of 1/4" 4130, same width as the alum bar about 8" 
long, I cut most of the way through on an angle to make it plumb with the 
aircraft in level position. I then bent it and filled the opening with weld.
 Before I cut anything I made cardboard (highly recommend) templates of bracket 
and gear legs and used small spring clamps to put them in place and check 
everything for alignment. After putting all this together and checking with all 
the gear and wheels on, I am now sitting at -0- toe in/toe out. I don't have 
all the weight on the gear yet so that may change.
I doubt if I have a hundred dollars in the whole setup.
Your results may vary.

Mike Turner
Edgewood NM, USA 
     
  Marlyn Taylor
  541-344-6709
  Eugene, OR 97405
  marly...@efn.org

KR> VW oil viscosity

[Fred Johnson]

Almost all the new cars use 5w30 as there oil, the tighter tolerance with
advanced machining has made that possible.

They use it because of less friction, greater fuel economy and more
horsepower. 

Fred Johnson
Reno, NV

Phil Wrote:

i tried 15/40 and it actually gave me more revs at take off
so much so i thought about more pitch onn the prop
however when hot i did not like the oil pressure 
i like to see 10psi / 1000 rpm  so went back to 20/50
interesting though more power on thinner oil 
phill

KR> VW oil viscosity

[phil brookman]

i tried 15/40 and it actually gave me more revs at take off
so much so i thought about more pitch onn the prop
however when hot i did not like the oil pressure 
i like to see 10psi / 1000 rpm  so went back to 20/50
interesting though more power on thinner oil 
phill





From: Bob Lee 
To: KRnet 
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:05:43 PM
Subject: RE: KR> VW oil viscosity

Mike wrote:

<>

You might want to reconsider using synthetic in a air cooled motor.  One of
the big selling points of synthetic oil is "reduced oil tempreature".
Unfortunately, this is not a good thing for us because the oil temperature
is reduced by the oil's inability to accept heat.  Therefore, the synthetic
oil cannot carry the heat to the cooler as well as petrolium oil.  This
results in an engine that is running hotter even though the oil temperature
is cooler.

When you think about it, friction is a small part of the total engine heat
compared to heat of combustion.  So even if synthetic oil reduces friction,
it does not significantly reduce the overall engine heat load.  Synthetic
oils are great for jets or water cooled engines.  In an air cooled engine
the oil system provides a significant amount of the cooling and pertolium
oil is better at transfering heat to the cooler.

Regards,


Bob Lee
N52BL  KR2
Suwanee, GA  USA
92% done only 67% to go!


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KR> iPilot Aviation Weather Mount Vernon, Illinois Forecast

[terry chizek]

http://www.ipilot.com/weather/index.php?pands=mvn=39=8

KR> KR Sterba prop and rain

[Mark Langford]

Dan Heath wrote:

> I have a Sterba KR prop on my KR and it has the leading edge protection. I 
> may encounter light rain, the kind where the visibility is still very 
> good, but some rain. How much rain can the prop take, for how long, and is 
> there a recommended VNE in RPM, for the prop in this weather condition, or 
> is ANY amount of rain not tollerable?

I've probably done 3-4 hours in light rain in my KR with a Sensenich with 
leading edge protection, and it seems to handle it fine.  I don't think the 
rain bothers the leading edge as much as bugs do.  I do throttle back 
considerably when raining though, to minimize whatever damage there is.

I'm not so worried about the rain as the low ceilings.  Tomorrow's marginal 
VFR (and so is today) with isolation rain, which is easy enough to dodge. 
But 500-1000' ceilings are a real problem.  I don't even want to think about 
driving yet, but I'll have to make that call tomorrow morning.  I may try to 
get out this afternoon if the weather's decent, but I don't really expect 
that.  We'll see how it goes...

Mark Langford
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website at http://www.N56ML.com

KR> KR Sterba prop and rain

[da...@windstream.net]

I have a Sterba KR prop on my KR and it has the leading edge protection. I may 
encounter light rain, the kind where the visibility is still very good, but 
some rain. How much rain can the prop take, for how long, and is there a 
recommended VNE in RPM, for the prop in this weather condition, or is ANY 
amount of rain not tollerable?
Dan Heath
Getting ready to leave for the Gathering tomorrow morning early.

KR> Cowl hinge

[Lee Van Dyke]

Netters,  Is there a good web site to show the process on installing colw 
hinges?  I have a new cowl and need to see the process.  Mark L does a good job 
with his colw but no photos of adding the hinge and the pin.

Lee Van Dyke

PS  Everybody have a great time at the Gathering.