KR> gap between wings

[John Martindale]

I think the plans are silent on removal all together.

I use two cheap adjustable office swivel seats (backs removed) on castors
under the wing to support it using the height adjustment to reflect the
dihedral. Then I remove all four bolts, fuel lines etc and just wheel the
wing out. Simple and the seats are used for beer drinking outside the
hangar at other times.  


John Martindale
29 Jane Circuit
Toormina NSW 2452
AUSTRALIA

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Phillip Matheson
Sent: Saturday, 24 October 2009 12:04 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> gap between wings

How do you do this when the bottom bolts in main and rear spar are not in
alignment (as per the plans)?
-
Good question
Can not find anything in the plans to say not to as yet?


Phil Matheson
SAAA Ch. 20  http://www.saaa20.org/
VH-PKR
Australia

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KR> gap between wings

[Phillip Matheson]

How do you do this when the bottom bolts in main and rear spar are not in
alignment (as per the plans)?
-
Good question
Can not find anything in the plans to say not to as yet?


Phil Matheson
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VH-PKR
Australia

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KR> gap between wings

[John Martindale]

Hey Phil

How do you do this when the bottom bolts in main and rear spar are not in
alignment (as per the plans)?

If the wing pivots downwards on them they must align otherwise one or other
will bind and strain the WAFs.  


John Martindale
29 Jane Circuit
Toormina NSW 2452
AUSTRALIA

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Of Phillip Matheson
Sent: Saturday, 24 October 2009 7:32 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> gap between wings

Then make some good gap covers like the ones you can see at:
http://krbuilder.org/WingGapCovers/index.html
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I too left extra room as Dan did.
I can remove the top WAF bolts, and lower the wing tip onto the ground or
something soft, then remove the bottom bolts and lower the wing to the
ground, very easily, but only do this at annual inspections. or if a problem
my comes up.
I too made covers similar to Dan's, very easy to do. Mine have 4 screws each
holding them on.




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SAAA Ch. 20  http://www.saaa20.org/
VH-PKR
Australia

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[Phillip Matheson]

Then make some good gap covers like the ones you can see at:
http://krbuilder.org/WingGapCovers/index.html
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I too left extra room as Dan did.
I can remove the top WAF bolts, and lower the wing tip onto the ground or 
something soft, then remove the bottom bolts and lower the wing to the 
ground, very easily, but only do this at annual inspections. or if a problem 
my comes up.
I too made covers similar to Dan's, very easy to do. Mine have 4 screws each 
holding them on.




Phil Matheson
SAAA Ch. 20  http://www.saaa20.org/
VH-PKR
Australia

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KR> gap between wings

[Larry Flesner]

>  I will be glassing the stub wings this weekend and I  was 
> wondering if the area between the stub and the wing template gets 
> the same amount of foam to fill in the gap  or can I put all the 
> gap filling foam on the wing ?
>Mike Sylvester
+++

I solved the "gap" problem as follows.  I cut and glued an additional 
48" rib to the inboard end of the outer wing spars and used that 
extra rib and the outer 36" rib as my sanding templets to shape the 
outer wing.  With the stub wing completed and the outer wing 
completed, that left the gap between the outer wing and the stub wing 
to fill.  I filled the gap with foam, sanded , and glassed.  I then 
cut the wings apart, enlarging the cut in the ares of the wing attach 
fittings and separated the two.  I sanded the underside of this foam 
to form a triangle shape and glassed that.  That gives me a gap, with 
wings installed, the thickness of a hacksaw blade with cutouts in the 
area of the wing attach fittings.  I tried making glass covers for 
the gap but when the first set did not meet the quality I was looking 
for I went to the hardware store and bought a roll of aluminum 
"flashing", 6"s wide, cut it in half, and attached to the wing with a 
few screws.  That has worked for 355 hours now and I doubt if I'll 
ever change it.  I do have a roll of white flashing material that I 
may get around to installing some day.

http://mysite.verizon.net/flesner/02092585.jpg

http://mysite.verizon.net/flesner/020925113.jpg

http://mysite.verizon.net/flesner/lf103.jpg

I later found it necessary to cut a 4" X 9" access hole in the bottom 
of the stub wing between the forward and aft spar to attach fuel 
lines, electrical lines, and have access to calibrate my fuel senders.

Larry Flesner

KR> British homebuilt "The Chilton"?

[tinya...@aol.com]

I have drawings for the Chilton, but have never seen one  "live".  

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO


In a message dated 10/23/2009 4:01:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
fles...@verizon.net writes:

At 03:33  PM 10/23/2009, you wrote:
>Has anyone ever seen the British homebuilt  "The Chilton"?
>
>Fred Johnson
>Reno,  NV


Check  out   http://www.chilton-aircraft.co.uk/nuacinfo.html

Larry  Flesner


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KR> British homebuilt "The Chilton"?

[Larry Flesner]

At 03:33 PM 10/23/2009, you wrote:
>Has anyone ever seen the British homebuilt "The Chilton"?
>
>Fred Johnson
>Reno, NV


Check out   http://www.chilton-aircraft.co.uk/nuacinfo.html

Larry Flesner

KR> Off topic Friday (but still airplanes)

[Fred Johnson]

Has anyone ever seen the British homebuilt "The Chilton"?

I ran across it awhile back on the internet and realized that at 40HP it had
quite impressive performance for it's day. It was designed just prior to the
war, and used a Ford engine.




Fred Johnson
Reno, NV

KR> Friday - Off Topic - NBAA Annual Convention Orlando, FL

[Glenda McElwee]

Photos of NBAA Annual Convention  http://www.awesometrvl.com/nbaa_2009.htm

Enjoy!


Glenda McElwee CFI

N51GL - in progress

Corvair powered KR2

KR> Snakebite lives

[Todd Price]

Looking forward to get a look at your plane.
-- 
Todd Price
Chandler, AZ


On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Lee Van Dyke  wrote:

> It was a long trip a year and a little ago.  AZ to WI for Oshkosh, then to
> MI over the big lake.  Then to IN to see Bob G.  Mt Vernon for fuel and
> home.  Well one day later home.  I cracked the case on the 2387 VW.  That
> has been rebuilt and I have a new cowl.  All CARBON.  I still need to pull a
> mold from the bottom and redo again but it will do for now.  I got it fired
> up tonight, thank you net for the instructions.  I ran it for about an hour,
> and all temps ollked real good.  Copperstate flyin started today, and I
> wanted to get the plane down there for Fri and Sat.  It is a 15 minute
> flight so what the heck lets do the testing on the way down.  It appears
> that there will be about 15 people over to the house on Fri night for a cook
> out and Root Beer.  My little KR Gathering on the WEST SIDE.   more later
> and I will have photos.
>
> Lee Van Dyke.
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KR> It's not over yet.

[mfreem...@indy.rr.com]

Thanks everybody for your best wishes, I appriciate them very much.
I was wrong about the package that was coming, it was somethin else. So I'm 
still looking for my personal items to show up one of these days.
Have a great week everybody.
Myron D. Freeman.

 mfreem...@indy.rr.com wrote: 
> Hi guys and girls;
> 
> I had hoped it was all over and I could just lay back and heal but I got a 
> phone call this afternoon and was told that I am being scheduled for facial 
> surgery for fractures around my right eye. I was hoping it just needed to 
> heal on it's own but I guess not.
> I got a package, I hope from Chris Collins at MVN with all of my personal 
> items from the accident scene. I can only hope that everything survived in 
> better shape than I did, especially the expensive stuff. We'll see.
> I've heard no comment from the FAA or the NTSB yet but they sent back all of 
> my log books and papers. It may take while.
> Have a great week everybody.
> Myron D. Freeman  
> 
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KR> gap between wings

[Dan Heath]

I have a different opinion on this.  Give yourself plenty of room, maybe an
inch or so, and even more, from spar to spar end at the attach points,
extending enough fore and aft for getting your fingers in there to attach
the wings.  Then make some good gap covers like the ones you can see at:
http://krbuilder.org/WingGapCovers/index.html

And I just noticed that the method for attaching was not included, which I
will document next month when I remove them for annual.  They attach with 2
screws and a couple of springs.

The reason for this radical opinion, is that I tried my best to get them
real close on my first KR, and ended up buggering them up before it was all
done.  Just too much work for very little reward, if any.

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC


-Original Message-

can I put all the gap filling foam on the wing ? Which is the easier way. I
do plan on using the wrap to seal it when all is said and done.

KR> Rand Robinson Engineering, no contact.

[Dubi Gefen]

>From my experience it very complicates to get her.
The most of the times I got her in about 10:00 o'clock. CA times.

Dubi Gefen
KR2s 4X-OLD Builder
+972-54-4921263
dub...@maanit.org.il
http://www.dubigefen.50megs.com









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Of Gunnar Olsen
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:28 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> Rand Robinson Engineering, no contact.

I try to reach Rand Robinson Engineering for buying a set of KR-2S 
plans, but get no answer on neither fax nor phone.
Any suggestions anyone ?

Thanks.

Gunnar

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KR> Engine choice

[laser...@juno.com]

Dan said, 

> "I am convinced that EMPI is the reason that I have junked 2 sets of
heads."

Well I am convinced that you just enjoy taking things apart and putting
them back together again.  

Re the EMPI heads, there are EMPI heads and other EMPI heads.  Mine are
EMPI, with the larger valves, but this version also has more mass - it
weighs a couple pounds more than standard EMPI heads.  I would work with
Steve on getting the right heads for the 2180 as he clearly knows all
about the different heads and which ones are appropriate to get the kind
of longevity I'm experiencing.

**

Interesting piece in the current "The Experimenter" on high-time
experimentals.  Mike Melville's Long-EZ has 4200 hours, built in 1980. 
Dick Rutan has one with even more hours, but it's retired.  It is called
"Old Blue."  There's an RV-6 with 3000.

Mike - KSEE



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KR> tail dragger

[Pete]

Not everyone needs a training wheel ;)
Cheers.
Pete.

Mark Jones wrote:
> Jeeze Dan, just because you have a taildragger. Maybe he wants to be in the 
> click. You know, us guys who have a real airplane, not a toy.   :-)