KR> Fw: Object lesson - God's Grace
I for one like the story very much even if it has nothing to do with building a KR. Bob Wood On Oct 19, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Tony King wrote: > Charles, > > I know there are people of strong religious persuasion who believe > it's > their god given right and moral responsibility to share their faith > at every > opportunity, even (or especially) with those who aren't > interested. Your > most recent contribution to this forum suggests you may be one of > those > people. You're perfectly entitled to your views, but this forum is > NOT the > place and I for one strongly object. > > Tony King > Queensland Australia > > On 20 October 2010 08:53, Charles Burkholder > wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> --- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>God's Grace >> >>What is mentioned here appears to be a >> shame, but the message is very true. I hope you are all blessed by >> this >> story. I wonder how many people will delete this without reading >> it because >> of the title. >> >>There once was a man named George >> Thomas, a >> pastor in a small New England town. One Easter Sunday morning, he >> came to >> the Church carrying a rusty, bent, old bird cage and set it by the >> pulpit. >> Eyebrows were raised and as if in response, Pastor Thomas began to >> speak . . >> . >> >>"I was walking through town >> yesterday when I >> saw a young boy coming toward me swinging this bird cage. On the >> bottom of >> the cage were three little wild birds, shivering with cold and >> fright. >> >>I stopped the lad and asked, "What >> do you >> have there, son?" >> >>"Just some old birds," came the reply. >> >>"What are you going to do with >> them?" I >> asked. >> >>"Take 'em home and have fun with >> 'em," he >> answered. "I'm gonna tease 'em and pull out their feathers to make >> 'em >> fight. I'm gonna have a real good time." >> >>"But you'll get tired of those >> birds sooner >> or later. What will you do then?" >> >>"Oh, I've got some cats," said the >> little >> boy. "They like birds. I'll take 'em to them." >> >>The pastor was silent for a moment. >> "How >> much do you want for those birds, son?" >> >>"Huh?! Why, you don't want them birds, >> mister. They're just plain old field birds. They don't sing. They >> ain't even >> pretty!" >> >>"How much?" the pastor asked again. >> >>The boy sized up the pastor as if >> he were >> crazy and said,"Ten dollars?" >> >>The pastor reached in his pocket >> and took >> out a ten dollar bill. He placed it in the boy's hand. In a flash, >> the boy >> was gone. The pastor picked up the cage and gently carried it to >> the end of >> the alley where there was a tree and a grassy spot. Setting the >> cage down, >> he opened the door, and by softly tapping the bars, persuaded the >> birds out, >> setting them free. >> >>So, that explained the empty bird >> cage on >> the pulpit, and then the pastor began to tell another story. >> >>One day Satan and Jesus were having a >> conversation. Satan had just come from the Garden of Eden, and he was >> gloating and boasting. >> >>"Yes, sir, I just caught a world >> full of >> people down there. Set me a trap, used bait I knew they couldn't >> resist. Got >> 'em all!" >> >>"What are you going to do with >> them?" Jesus >> asked. >> >>Satan replied,"Oh, I'm gonna have >> fun! I'm >> gonna teach them how to marry and divorce each >>other, how to hate and abuse each >> other, how >> to drink and smoke and curse. I'm gonna teach them how to invent >> guns and >> bombs and kill each other. I'm really gonna have fun!" >> >>"And what will you do when you are >> done with >> them?" Jesus asked. >> >>"Oh, I'll kill 'em," Satan glared >> proudly. >> >>"How much do you want for them?" Jesus >> asked. >> >>"Oh, you don't want those people. >> They ain't >> no good. Why, you'll take them and they'll just hate you. They'll >> spit on >> you, curse you and kill you. You don't want those people!" >> >>"How much? Jesus asked again. >> >>Satan looked at J
KR> Regarding retract gear KR
Ron, The KR and a Cessna 172 are actually both "certified" aircraft. However, the 172 is certified in the "Standard" category and almost all KR's are certified in the "E-AB" (Experimental - Amateur Built) category. Ed J. -- From: "Ronald Wright" Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 1:06 PM To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR> Regarding retract gear KR > This is a CERTIFIED aircraft, NOT a homebuilt. Not the same thing. > > Ron
KR> capacitive fuel quantity system
Yes, Princeton Probes. You can see them installed in my new tank at: http://krbuilder.org/ConvertingToWingTanks/index.html Almost to the bottom of the thumbnail pics. Click on any pic to see a full size view. I also have one in my old header tank which I am willing to sell for a modest price, including fuel cap and shutoff valve. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you at the 2011 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN There is a time for building and it never seems to end. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -Original Message- Anyone using a capacitive fuel quantity system?
KR> Regarding retract gear KR
Hi Dan, The aircraft you mentioned, with out modification, have always fit the "LSA" rule. The Cessna 150 fits the LSA rule save the gross weight. Because of that it will never be an LSA ruled aircraft. Even if you put it on a diet. You can only be a virgin once... Gods Speed, J.E. Caudle Fenwick, WV 363TB (On the Bench) <> It that were true, then how is it that Cubs, Champs, and some Ercoups, and probably others, are now being flown under LSA? <>
Fw: Re: KR> drop Tanks
Anyone using a capacitive fuel quantity system? --- On Wed, 10/20/10, Craig Williams wrote: From: Craig Williams Subject: Re: KR> drop Tanks To: "KRnet" List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Wednesday, October 20, 2010, 5:18 PM Not kidding at all. They would not be droppable. Further explanations are on my web page. Craig www.kr2seafury.com --- On Wed, 10/20/10, Patrick and Robin Russo wrote: From: Patrick and Robin Russo Subject: Re: KR> drop Tanks To: "KRnet" List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Wednesday, October 20, 2010, 3:43 PM And where do you intend to drop them,... on final?? Craig, I suspect that you are spoofing us.- Original Message - From: "Craig Williams" To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:44 PM Subject: KR> Here's something to ponder > More crazy ideas from the Sea Fury guy. I got a million of them. LOL > >
KR> Retractable gear
Actually, I wish I knew then, what I know now. After having built 2 KRs and having to go back and modify this one, I have learned a few things. I do enjoy working on the KR, but I do not like getting myself in long drawn out projects that keep me from flying. So, with a center stick, why does everyone have to build an arm rest? With dual sticks you don't need to do that, giving you the room that the arm rest would have robbed you of. No, you don't need two, take the other stick out if you don't need it, but with the stick between your legs, you can steady the stick with your legs if you need both hands, and you can fly it with either hand,,, oh,,, for such things as changing freqs, and maybe using your GPS, and who knows what when I drive my car, the steering wheel is not in the middle of the car, and I often change hands, just cause I want to. I have flown the KR both ways, and would never go back to the center stick for any reason, nor would I fly a KR with retractable gear. Bob Muse Sr., one of the best KR pilots I ever knew, came to see me one day before my first KR was finished, with the intent of giving me some time in his plane, with him. On base, his throttle got stuck and would not go in nor would it go out. He got so focused on that problem that he forgot to put down his gear. At the last minute, he realized what had happened and tried to get it down, without success, almost losing control of the plane. Needless to say, I did not get any time IN his KR. That was not enough reason for him to switch out to the fixed gear, maybe they did not have it then, but for some reason, before he died, he was converting it to fixed gear. After all those years, I wonder why??? My first KR originally flew with Retract gear, and being the stubborn kind of person that I am, it took 3 times for it to collapse, doing considerable damage each time, before I wised up. Those are just a few of the reasons why I have such disdain for that configuration on the KR. New airfoil,,, maybe, if I could just get away with rebuilding the outer wings... Let me think on that for a while. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you at the 2011 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN There is a time for building and it never seems to end. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -Original Message- Dan said, >"the first thing I would do, would be to get rid of that retract gear, and the next thing would be to put in dual sticks." And then once you'd done that, you'd decide to put in a different engine or wings with the new airfoil. Face it Dan, you'd rather take these things apart and put them back together than fly them. Why dual sticks? Do you fly with a hand on each stick?
KR> LSA
> how is it that Cubs, Champs, and some Ercoups are now being flown under LSA? Because those Cubs, Champs, and Erocups (C model) we within the LSA specs when they were built. As an example, the later models of Ercoups weigh more than the LSA limits so they can never be operated as LSA under the current FAA regulations. Brant Hollensbe Bhollensbe at mchsi.com
KR> Regarding retract gear KR
It that were true, then how is it that Cubs, Champs, and some Ercoups, and probably others, are now being flown under LSA? See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you at the 2011 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN There is a time for building and it never seems to end. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -Original Message- The same rules apply, it doesn't matter what category the aircraft is in. If it has been operated outside of the LSA specs, it can no longer be legally flown by a Sport Pilot even if modified to fall back inside the LSA specs.
KR> airworthiness certificate/ never flown
At 12:15 PM 10/20/2010, you wrote: >My Kr has never flown, but has gotten everything needed. This includes its >airworthiness certificate. ++ If the test hours have not been flown off and you do not reside in the original test area assigned for flight testing, I think you may have to contact the local FSDO and get a new area assigned. The paperwork and regulations are often more challenging then building the airplane. Larry Flesner
KR> Retractable gear and dual sticks
Dual sticks and retracts go together for me. When teaching grandchildren how to fly, for me it would seem most comfortable to have the throttle in the center for ease and access to both occupants and the dual sticks so that the center is free of obstruction for retracting gear. On one of my current projects I am using the old retract system (for the third time) and a third lock-up or down is at the center where the single control stick was located. The latch is a simple push (bicycle hand brake like) control arm which engages a latch at the center and rear of the spar. I am working the bugs out at this very moment trying to make it unlatch the other gear locks as called for on the prints. I have done the fixed gear route and it is wonderfully simple and reliable but so is the retract system. Building a (what we still refer to as a KR), is an exercise in ingenuity, engineering AND asthetics. Enjoy it all! I have been with the KR forums for a third of a century and have been inspired, amused, educated, etc. by all of you. Many of us are not building KR's any longer. We're doing our own things with- more than a bit of advice and ideas from the forums. - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:09 PM Subject: KR> Retractable gear > >>"the first thing I would do, would be to get rid of that retract gear, > and the next thing would be to put in dual sticks." > >
KR> Regarding retract gear KR
On 10/20/2010 02:06 PM, Ronald Wright wrote: > This is a CERTIFIED aircraft, NOT a homebuilt. Not the same thing. > > Ron Hi Ron, The same rules apply, it doesn't matter what category the aircraft is in. If it has been operated outside of the LSA specs, it can no longer be legally flown by a Sport Pilot even if modified to fall back inside the LSA specs. I encourage you to please contact the EAA directly and ask them, and to not take my word for it. Here are other examples: http://sportpilot.org/questions/afmviewfaq.asp?faqid=1284 http://sportpilot.org/questions/afmviewfaq.asp?faqid=2524 http://sportpilot.org/questions/afmviewfaq.asp?faqid=2320 and others are also listed at: http://sportpilot.org/questions/afmfaqs.asp?topicid=12 -Dj -- Dj Merrill - N1JOV Glastar Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/ Please use Netiquette Guidelines http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855 Kindly TRIM your email replies and post AFTER the relevant text
KR> Retractable gear
Dan said, >"the first thing I would do, would be to get rid of that retract gear, and the next thing would be to put in dual sticks." And then once you'd done that, you'd decide to put in a different engine or wings with the new airfoil. Face it Dan, you'd rather take these things apart and put them back together than fly them. Why dual sticks? Do you fly with a hand on each stick? Mike KSEE Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210
KR> Regarding retract gear KR
This is a CERTIFIED aircraft, NOT a homebuilt. Not the same thing. Ron --- On Wed, 10/20/10, Dj Merrill wrote: > From: Dj Merrill > Subject: Re: KR> Regarding retract gear KR > To: "KRnet" > Date: Wednesday, October 20, 2010, 10:19 AM > On 11/20/2010 01:18 AM, Lee Van Dyke > wrote: > > Not true. Email me off line and I can give you > examples... > > > > Once an airplane has been operated > outside of the LSA parameters (gross > weight, stall speed, etc), it no longer qualifies to be > LEGALLY flown by > a Sport Pilot, even if modified to fall back into the LSA > parameters. > > http://sportpilot.org/questions/afmviewfaq.asp?faqid=298 > > -Dj > > -- > Dj Merrill - N1JOV > Glastar Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/ > > Please use Netiquette Guidelines http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855 > Kindly TRIM your email replies and post AFTER the relevant > text > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >
KR> WTF?
Mark just finished posting the rules and every respondee to Steve Glover's long post refused to delete it in their posting. What's wrong with you? Mike KSEE Hate Carrying Pet Food? Now you don't have to! Pet sites deliver to your door for free! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4cbf2f0f3cc5d734eam04vuc
KR> Here's something to ponder
From: Craig Williams kr2seaf...@yahoo.com Not sure if the aerodynamics would be the same but if you have seen the baggage pods on LongEzes (Rutan design pusher) there is very little if any airspeed difference while using them to carry extra baggage. These pods are attached with a few screws, fairly easy to take off or install after initial installation. Maybe your on to something, engine quits, need to crash land, eject the pods before touchdown, maybe at least get rid of a possible fire! There's a wild idea for you!! LOL Larry H. More crazy ideas from the Sea Fury guy. I got a million of them. LOL I hav Soo, what about using drop tanks on my Seafury. Craig www.kr2seafury.com Craig, I hope I am not on the ground in your flight path when you decide to drop your drop tanks! ;-) LOL
KR> KR-1 Plans - Plus Stuff (LONG)
Hi Steve, Once again I apologize to you and the list. I can make no excuse for my actions other than I picked the wrong place to vent. I am truly sorry! Gods Speed, J.E. Caudle Fenwick, WV 363TB (On the Bench) <> Over the years I have seen this kind of letter from many experimental aircraft companies before. Few are still with us. Good luck with your advancement of the KR. Kevin Golden Harrisonville, MO
KR> drop Tanks
Not kidding at all. They would not be droppable. Further explanations are on my web page. Craig www.kr2seafury.com --- On Wed, 10/20/10, Patrick and Robin Russo wrote: From: Patrick and Robin Russo Subject: Re: KR> drop Tanks To: "KRnet" List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Wednesday, October 20, 2010, 3:43 PM And where do you intend to drop them,... on final?? Craig, I suspect that you are spoofing us.- Original Message - From: "Craig Williams" To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:44 PM Subject: KR> Here's something to ponder > More crazy ideas from the Sea Fury guy. I got a million of them. LOL > >
KR> Regarding retract gear KR
My Kr has never flown, but has gotten everything needed. This includes its airworthiness certificate. After a long night of measuring and contemplating the biggest factor which is safety of course, I am left with needing to change the landing gear. Flaps and a belly board add a level of safety I want. I am not saying that it cannot be flown the way it is, I just would rather have the flaps. Since changing to fixed gear is a major remodel for me, I am still working on fixing the damage done prior to purchasing, I will be taking the winter to add wing tanks and convert to dual stick. I would like to say thank you again for krnet. -Original Message- From: krnet-bounces+clay.wills1=cox@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+clay.wills1=cox@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Dj Merrill Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:19 AM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Regarding retract gear KR On 11/20/2010 01:18 AM, Lee Van Dyke wrote: > Not true. Email me off line and I can give you examples... > Once an airplane has been operated outside of the LSA parameters (gross weight, stall speed, etc), it no longer qualifies to be LEGALLY flown by a Sport Pilot, even if modified to fall back into the LSA parameters. http://sportpilot.org/questions/afmviewfaq.asp?faqid=298 -Dj -- Dj Merrill - N1JOV Glastar Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/ Please use Netiquette Guidelines http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855 Kindly TRIM your email replies and post AFTER the relevant text ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> drop Tanks
I don't think he really means to drop them just use "fake" ones as gas tanks. Ought to make for some good fireworks on a gear up landing. Rodney -Original Message- From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Patrick and Robin Russo Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:43 To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> drop Tanks And where do you intend to drop them,... on final?? Craig, I suspect that you are spoofing us.- Original Message - From: "Craig Williams" To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:44 PM Subject: KR> Here's something to ponder > More crazy ideas from the Sea Fury guy. I got a million of them. LOL > > > I have been thinking alot about my tanks and the aluminum versions I > got with the plane. Don't like them! Heavy, no access once they are > installed and I don't want a header tank either. Soo, what about > using drop tanks on my Seafury. > http://www.kr2seafury.com/resources/1963seafury1of4.jpg They would be > 10" diameter and 30 inches long and that will give me about 12-13 gal > each side. Hard points 12 outside of the WAF seem to be a good spot. > The RAF wing is almost 48 inch chord at that point. Flat plate area > should be small so the only issue I see would be handling. And the > fact that I am headed for an > O-235 > motor. Which is what I will do If I need to. My goal is still a > 130kt cruise. > > Craig > www.kr2seafury.com > > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ___ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> KR-1 Plans - Plus Stuff (LONG)
Hey Steve, I never listen to the gripes of others because it is too easy to gripe and too hard to accept and understand or at the very least contact you first. Don't worry about it. I am sorry you even felt the need to respond to this guy. Also, if you host a Gathering I promise to come. If it's 2012 it will be in a KR2S. Ray New Orleans --- On Tue, 10/19/10, Plane Nut wrote: From: Plane Nut Subject: RE: KR> KR-1 Plans - Plus Stuff (LONG) To: "'KRnet'" List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 10:12 PM Netter's, As most of you know, we took over operations from RR this past year. So one can imagine there has been some growing pains while attempting to get things moving again. Between a blown out knee, moving in and out of hangars for due to potential flooding, and now with moving into a larger facility in attempt to streamline and be more productive, this has been a HUGE undertaking. We are working diligently to get the remaining orders out that we have and anticipate having everything caught up by the end of the year or shortly after depending on temperatures for the glass work. (Thank you for your patience to those we have outstanding orders with) Currently there is myself, and my partner Eric primarily doing EVERYTHING for production! We do not have enough revenue to hire employees as there still is not enough volume as we attempt to reenergize the KR design in the homebuilt community. This IS NOT our primary method for making a living. Eric is still on active duty with the US Navy and lives a couple hours away. He is instrumental in taking care of all website and administrative duties for nV Aero. He travels to the hangar to help with production, etc. when his time permits based upon his current Op Temp. Otherwise, production is basically me. I do the ordering, stocking, fabricating and any other gopher jobs required. We have some items contracted out such as welding, precision machining, etc. Eric and I have a desire to provide quality, affordable parts and materials for people to build their KR aircraft. We certainly didn't get into this to get rich. The first thing to understand is nV Aero does not own the rights to the plans for any of the KR aircraft. Jeanette has a price that she sells the plans to us. Based upon that price we charge enough to cover our shipping and administrative costs (picking up plans from RR which is 40 miles away, and other expenses associated with packaging and shipping.) Due to printing costs Jeanette has raised the price of the KR-1 plans to us. The drawings and additional copies she provides are at current market rates from the printers. The book is the same as everyone else has received for the past several years but those are rapidly running out so I anticipate another increase once the current inventory is depleted. This brings me to Mr. Caudle's post. I do feel he should have contacted me first before posting to the net with his "displeasure". I think I addressed it fairly well above but let me be clear, WE buy the plans for $95. We sell at $114.95. We found that is easier for flat rate shipping for our shopping cart system due to the various destinations in the US and abroad. So, $25 for "shipping" less up to 6% for credit card processing if a Corporate card is used. This leaves us $108.05. Subtract $5.70 for Priority Mail with delivery confirmation leaves $102.35 less $95 for RR leaves us $7.35 for our time to pick up plans from RR, print packing lists (The packing list was with Mr. Caudle's registration page), registration pages, package and get them to the post office or however we ship. Clearly we are making a TON of money for the hassle. I am a little displeased myself with Mr. Caudle's post given our original correspondence. Nothing was misleading when he inquired about the plans and their quality. I guess I should have been VERY specific as to the additional pages showing the new dimensions from the KR-2 changes with drawings instead of photos. You can see my email to him below. BEGIN MSG. "Dear Mr. Caudle, Thank you for your inquiry into the KR-1. I have not seen the Corby Starlet plans so could not comment on how they compare however, there have been several hundred KR-1's build over the years. The KR-1 plans were drawn in the 70's and have a builders manual with approximately 64 pages. The full size drawings are for the airfoil only. Dimensionally the additional photos and measurements in the manual are pretty clear. One positive thing regarding the KR series is the builder support is outstanding. The KR-net has about 600 members and answers to most of your are readily available. Of course you can contact us as well. I will work on converting a copy of a page from the plans to send to you." END. Keep in mind these plans were written a very long time ago. To answer the various questions posted regarding the KR-1 plans. The pages that have been removed from the back of the ma
KR> drop Tanks
And where do you intend to drop them,... on final?? Craig, I suspect that you are spoofing us.- Original Message - From: "Craig Williams" To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:44 PM Subject: KR> Here's something to ponder > More crazy ideas from the Sea Fury guy. I got a million of them. LOL > > > I have been thinking alot about my tanks and the aluminum versions I got > with > the plane. Don't like them! Heavy, no access once they are installed and > I > don't want a header tank either. Soo, what about using drop tanks on > my > Seafury. http://www.kr2seafury.com/resources/1963seafury1of4.jpg They > would be > 10" diameter and 30 inches long and that will give me about 12-13 gal each > side. Hard points 12 outside of the WAF seem to be a good spot. The RAF > wing > is almost 48 inch chord at that point. Flat plate area should be small so > the > only issue I see would be handling. And the fact that I am headed for an > O-235 > motor. Which is what I will do If I need to. My goal is still a 130kt > cruise. > > Craig > www.kr2seafury.com > > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >
KR> Regarding retract gear KR
On 11/20/2010 01:18 AM, Lee Van Dyke wrote: > Not true. Email me off line and I can give you examples... > Once an airplane has been operated outside of the LSA parameters (gross weight, stall speed, etc), it no longer qualifies to be LEGALLY flown by a Sport Pilot, even if modified to fall back into the LSA parameters. http://sportpilot.org/questions/afmviewfaq.asp?faqid=298 -Dj -- Dj Merrill - N1JOV Glastar Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/ Please use Netiquette Guidelines http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855 Kindly TRIM your email replies and post AFTER the relevant text
KR> Regarding retract gear KR
I don't think this is correct if he switches to the fixed gear (major mod). If I were him I would call EAA and explain what he wants to do and that he wants to fly it in the LSA category. On top of that, the only one that even knows it has (had) retracts is the builder/owner. I doubt that it is even shown in the logbooks that it has retracts. The builder sets all the other parameters of his airplane also. Max speed, stall speed, even the gross weight. Just because the "specs" for an experimental airplane design don't meet the LSA requirements doesn't mean YOUR airplane won't do it. YOU'RE the one who sets them. Again, call EAA to verify this before making any decisions. Ron --- On Tue, 10/19/10, Douglas Cooke wrote: > From: Douglas Cooke > Subject: KR> Regarding retract gear KR > To: "KRNET" > Date: Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 11:17 PM > > If the aircraft has EVER been flown with the retract gear, > it can NEVER be flown by a light sport pilot, even after > locking the gear in the down position. > > Same thing goes for clean stall speed over 51MPH, in-flight > adjustable prop, cruise speed higher than 120kts at sea > level on a standard day, or gross weigh higher than 1320# > (1430# for float/amphibian). > > Unfortunate, but true. > > Doug > > > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >
KR> Scratch Built: the hard way
If you think your KR building might be somewhat rude and crude, check out this video courtesy of EAA. http://www.eaaonline.org/link.cfm?tid=6828979143&trk=yes&r=155611968&sid=11038971&m=1136038&u=ExAA&s=http://www.eaa.org/news/2010/2010-10-13_scratchbuilt.asp Gotta give this guy an A for effort, but will it fly? Resembles a CH-701. Sid Wood Tri-gear KR-2 N6242 Mechanicsville, MD, USA smw...@md.metrocast.net
KR> KR-1 Plans - Plus Stuff (LONG)
Over the years I have seen this kind of letter from many experimental aircraft companies before. Few are still with us. Good luck with your advancement of the KR. Kevin Golden Harrisonville, MO In a message dated 10/19/2010 10:12:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, n92...@cox.net writes: Netter's, As most of you know, we took over operations from RR this past year. So one can imagine there has been some growing pains while attempting to get things moving again. Between a blown out knee, moving in and out of hangars for due to potential flooding, and now with moving into a larger facility in attempt to streamline and be more productive, this has been a HUGE undertaking. We are working diligently to get the remaining orders out that we have and anticipate having everything caught up by the end of the year or shortly after depending on temperatures for the glass work. (Thank you for your patience to those we have outstanding orders with) Currently there is myself, and my partner Eric primarily doing EVERYTHING for production! We do not have enough revenue to hire employees as there still is not enough volume as we attempt to reenergize the KR design in the homebuilt community. This IS NOT our primary method for making a living. Eric is still on active duty with the US Navy and lives a couple hours away. He is instrumental in taking care of all website and administrative duties for nV Aero. He travels to the hangar to help with production, etc. when his time permits based upon his current Op Temp. Otherwise, production is basically me. I do the ordering, stocking, fabricating and any other gopher jobs required. We have some items contracted out such as welding, precision machining, etc. Eric and I have a desire to provide quality, affordable parts and materials for people to build their KR aircraft. We certainly didn't get into this to get rich. The first thing to understand is nV Aero does not own the rights to the plans for any of the KR aircraft. Jeanette has a price that she sells the plans to us. Based upon that price we charge enough to cover our shipping and administrative costs (picking up plans from RR which is 40 miles away, and other expenses associated with packaging and shipping.) Due to printing costs Jeanette has raised the price of the KR-1 plans to us. The drawings and additional copies she provides are at current market rates from the printers. The book is the same as everyone else has received for the past several years but those are rapidly running out so I anticipate another increase once the current inventory is depleted. This brings me to Mr. Caudle's post. I do feel he should have contacted me first before posting to the net with his "displeasure". I think I addressed it fairly well above but let me be clear, WE buy the plans for $95. We sell at $114.95. We found that is easier for flat rate shipping for our shopping cart system due to the various destinations in the US and abroad. So, $25 for "shipping" less up to 6% for credit card processing if a Corporate card is used. This leaves us $108.05. Subtract $5.70 for Priority Mail with delivery confirmation leaves $102.35 less $95 for RR leaves us $7.35 for our time to pick up plans from RR, print packing lists (The packing list was with Mr. Caudle's registration page), registration pages, package and get them to the post office or however we ship. Clearly we are making a TON of money for the hassle. I am a little displeased myself with Mr. Caudle's post given our original correspondence. Nothing was misleading when he inquired about the plans and their quality. I guess I should have been VERY specific as to the additional pages showing the new dimensions from the KR-2 changes with drawings instead of photos. You can see my email to him below. BEGIN MSG. "Dear Mr. Caudle, Thank you for your inquiry into the KR-1. I have not seen the Corby Starlet plans so could not comment on how they compare however, there have been several hundred KR-1's build over the years. The KR-1 plans were drawn in the 70's and have a builders manual with approximately 64 pages. The full size drawings are for the airfoil only. Dimensionally the additional photos and measurements in the manual are pretty clear. One positive thing regarding the KR series is the builder support is outstanding. The KR-net has about 600 members and answers to most of your are readily available. Of course you can contact us as well. I will work on converting a copy of a page from the plans to send to you." END. Keep in mind these plans were written a very long time ago. To answer the various questions posted regarding the KR-1 plans. The pages that have been removed from the back of the manual were outdated and did not reflect current building recommendations. There also was engine info from Revmaster as well as parts and kit availability that is
KR> Retractable gear
That is a pretty KR, but if I had it, the first thing I would do, would be to get rid of that retract gear, and the next thing would be to put in dual sticks. Nice KR. I am sure that the covers were not part of the plans, and there is a reason why the re-design of that gear mechanism took up most of the content of the KR Newsletters and why you don't see them on KR's, much anymore. Many headaches and expense for no benefit. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you at the 2011 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN There is a time for building and it never seems to end. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -Original Message- I feel like sticking up for the retractable gear.
