KR> Battery Life

[Sid Wood]

The Power-Sonic Batteries PS-12180 NB 12 Volts 18 AH (main) and PS-1272 F2 
12 Volts 7.2 AH (backup) both died today in my KR-2.  Actually the backup 
probably died about 6 months ago; since it was never used by the system, I 
did not pay much attention.  Only had them for 4 years and 6 months.  From 
reading the Power-Sonic specs, I had thoroughly abused these batteries.  The 
instructions for maintenance called out storage temperature limits and float 
charging requirements to keep these batteries going for a full life up to 4 
years.
Not to fear, BatteryPlex.com has replacements in UPS shipping right now.

Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA

KR> Wing program

[Jeff Scott]

The wings program has been around for nearly 20 years.  You can call your local 
FSDO office and get on an email list for notifications for wings qualified 
classes in your area.  Often times they are CFI or FAA lead talk on safety or a 
specific aviation related subject.  It can count as part of your BFR.  The FAA 
used to give out little "wings" pins for completion of various levels of the 
wings programs.  It was something on the order of 20 levels.  Don't know if 
they still do that sort of stuff anymore or not.  

An example of wings qualified seminars I have sat in on were:
A talk about when we switched from the old standards or weather briefings to 
the international METAR/TAF standards.
A talk at an EAA Meeting about self maintenance on aircraft, what you can and 
can't do.
A talk at an EAA meeting about transition training for pilots transitioning to 
LSA aircraft.

Generally, with any aviation safety related talk, if requested, the FSDO will 
approve it before hand as qualifying for the wings program.  Often times they 
are put on by the local CAP, local CFIs, or by an FAA FASTEAM member.

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM



>
> Wings is FAA safety program. I don't no much about it. I know  you can  get 
> some type of credit towards your review when you complete a course. There  
> are hundreds of them. There are some EAA webinars you can also get credit  
> for.  Maybe a CFI can explain it a little better.   
> https://www.faasafety.gov/WINGS/pub/default.aspx
>  
> Paul  Visk
> Belleville Il.
> 618-406-4705  
> 
>  
> In a message dated 7/22/2014 4:24:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> danrh at windstream.net writes:
> 
> Paul,
> 
> Is it an online course?  Or, where is it  conducted?
> 
> My Panther Building Documentation at PantherBuilder Web  Site
> 
> Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
> 

KR> Videos

[Eduardo Barros]

My chanel

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_9K3C1hu_TYGUoLp9VMMLw
Saludos

Eduardo Barros
San Pedro, Bs. As., Argentina

Mail: eduardo at kr2-egb.com.ar 
Visite el proyecto de construcci?n del avi?n experimental ?Kr2 EGB?: 
www.kr2-egb.com.ar

  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul Visk via KRnet 
  To: Mark Jones ; KRnet 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 12:54 PM
  Subject: Re: KR> Videos


  Nice video Mark. Is you camera a GoPro? 

  Paul Visk
  Belleville Il
  618 406 4705


  Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4.

   Original message From: Mark Jones via KRnet 
 Date:07/22/2014  7:42 AM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: KRnet  Subject: KR> Videos 

  Here are video links of N886MJ with the camera mounted on the tip of 
the right stabilizer.

  First flight March 21 2005
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmHk1Gt586I0

  High speed pass runway 30 at KSTE
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QPWxqtv4cI

  Landing runway 21 at KSTE
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfXagjar5IE

  Mark Jones (N886MJ)
  Stevens Point, WI
  E-mail: flykr2s at charter.net
  Web: www.flykr2s.com
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KR> Wing program

[Mark Wegmet]

http://www.faasafety.gov/default.aspx
The above link will give you a lot of information. AOPA, EAA, and many local
Flight Offices/Flying Clubs and related organizations offer webinars,
courses, and seminars that are eligible for Wings credits. If nothing else,
they are good 'refreshers' and offer insights from experienced pilots,
CFI's, A's on various subjects. Check the above link for more information
on how credits are awarded, what they can be used for, etc.

Mark W.
N952MW (res.)


-Original Message-
From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Scott
via KRnet
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 1:27 PM
To: krnet
Subject: Re: KR> Wing program

The wings program has been around for nearly 20 years.  You can call your
local FSDO office and get on an email list for notifications for wings
qualified classes in your area.  Often times they are CFI or FAA lead talk
on safety or a specific aviation related subject.  It can count as part of
your BFR.  The FAA used to give out little "wings" pins for completion of
various levels of the wings programs.  It was something on the order of 20
levels.  Don't know if they still do that sort of stuff anymore or not.  

An example of wings qualified seminars I have sat in on were:
A talk about when we switched from the old standards or weather briefings to
the international METAR/TAF standards.
A talk at an EAA Meeting about self maintenance on aircraft, what you can
and can't do.
A talk at an EAA meeting about transition training for pilots transitioning
to LSA aircraft.

Generally, with any aviation safety related talk, if requested, the FSDO
will approve it before hand as qualifying for the wings program.  Often
times they are put on by the local CAP, local CFIs, or by an FAA FASTEAM
member.

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM



>
> Wings is FAA safety program. I don't no much about it. I know  you can  
> get some type of credit towards your review when you complete a 
> course. There are hundreds of them. There are some EAA webinars you can
also get credit
> for.  Maybe a CFI can explain it a little better.   
> https://www.faasafety.gov/WINGS/pub/default.aspx
>  
> Paul  Visk
> Belleville Il.
> 618-406-4705
> 
>  
> In a message dated 7/22/2014 4:24:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
> danrh at windstream.net writes:
> 
> Paul,
> 
> Is it an online course?  Or, where is it  conducted?
> 
> My Panther Building Documentation at PantherBuilder Web  Site
> 
> Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
> 

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KR> Fw: Landing with both flaps and belly board deployed

[Jeff Lange]

Joe, 

You are a funny guy ; ) I wish my wife shared your sediments? 

One change I made to the plane before trying the belly board was the removal of 
double throw momentary switch to raise and lower the board. It takes about 9 
seconds from full down to full up. I installed a double throw switch that is 
not momentary so that I could flip the switch to the up position and free my 
hand up to do other things in the case of a go around. Especially important 
when you have to get both the board and the flaps up to climb. 

If I rework the system, I may use a liner actuator on the flaps as well and set 
them to work off of the same switch for up and down. Still pondering that. 

I have been toying with the idea of some kind of arm rest for solo flight but 
have not really given it much thought. Its still lightyears easier to land than 
my tail heavy and gap sealed Sonerai I. Being able to let go of the stick at 
all is a wonderful change, but you can see that I am pushing against my leg 
with the stick. There is no way for me to keep anything more than a few papers 
in my pockets without causing a problem. So far its been more of a nuisance 
than a problem, but I only have about 12 hours in it now. 

One change I made to the plan before

Jeff Lange
Race 64 - Skye Racer
Blog: http://schmleff.blogspot.com
Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/schmleff

On Jul 22, 2014, at 6:39 AM, joe.kr2s.builder--- via KRnet  wrote:

> Jeff,Will give ya a call in a few weeks as I will be working on a new project 
> and this is one of the things that I may do to it. But on another note you 
> seem to get better looking everyday- I bet you can hardly wait for tomorrow.  
>  I am going to weigh in on the single vs. double stick. I have dual stick 
> and center mounted throttle and mixture. From the first flight it all was 
> very natural feeling and it gives me full flexibility for use of hands. I 
> take a fair amount of people for rides and I always give them the chance to 
> control the plane. I have rarely turned over the throttle to anyone but as a 
> safety thought it is where the passenger could reach it should the need ever 
> arise. Resting your arm on something is a necessity and Jeff's video shows 
> that that is a bit awkward. Joe HortonCoopersburg, PaN357CJ   
> 
> -- Forwarded Message --
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> To: KRnet 
> Subject: KR> Landing with both flaps and belly board deployed
> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 21:43:22 -0500
> 
> If anyone is interested, here is the view over the nose while landing a KR2S 
> with both the enlarged flaps and the belly board down. 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy9dXF5KjMU=em
> 
> Jeff Lange
> 
> 
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KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 2, Issue 187

[Randall Smith]

My wife and I flew in our KR it was stretched but not widen for two years. When 
we would climb out people would stop and take a double take. But it is easy 
enough when you learn how to turn a little. I have test flown six KR's. One had 
a center stick. I would never ever have one of those. If you don't have a place 
to rest your arm when flying the KR you'll do a lot of oscillating. We put over 
100 hours with two of us in that airplane. We finally moved to a larger 
airplane. I still have a KR. Be long to Les Palmer. You sit in the middle with 
a stick between your legs. You can't see over the nose landing. It's a little 
exciting. But I still love it. I can go from my KR to my 47 cruiser to the 310 
in one day lots of fun.

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>   1. Re:  One stick or two (tommy waymack)
>   2.  One stick or two (laser147 at juno.com)
>   3. Re:  One stick or two (brian.kraut at eamanufacturing.com)
>   4. Re:  One stick or two (brian.kraut at eamanufacturing.com)
>   5. Re:  One stick or two (airguynh at comcast.net)
>   6. Re:  One stick or two (JL)
>   7.  Landing with both flaps and belly board deployed (JL)
>   8.  Wing program (PPaulVsk at aol.com)
>   9. Re:  Landing with both flaps and belly board deployed
>  (Hennie van Rooyen [HQP Alloystream])
>  10. Re:  Landing with both flaps and belly board deployed (Dan Heath)
>  11. Re:  Landing with both flaps and belly board deployed
>  (Hennie van Rooyen [HQP Alloystream])
>  12.  Airfoil (Robert Boyd)
>  13. Re:  One stick or two (Mark Langford)
>  14.  Fw:  Landing with both flaps and belly board deployed
>  (joe.kr2s.builder at juno.com)
>  15. Re:  Landing with both flaps and belly board deployed (Paul Visk)
>  16.  Videos (Mark Jones)
>  17. Re:  One stick or two - Example online (Steve G.)
>  18. Re:  Videos (Paul Visk)
> 
> 
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 11:14:28 -0500
> From: tommy waymack 
> To: Mark Langford , KRnet 
> Subject: Re: KR> One stick or two
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>
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> 
> Dual sticks and center throttle.And single rudder pedals with differential
> hand brakes taildragger.Not really a trainer but good for demos.Tommy W.
> 
> On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 9:49 PM, Mark Langford via KRnet <
> krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:
> 
>> Todd Rayner wrote:
>> 
> 
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> Unless one is widening the cockpit ala Langford, Flesner, McHenry, etc.
> and modifying the canopy to accomodate the extra width, the KR-2 is not a
> two-up airplane except for demo or otherwise very local flights.  Unless
> you're a midget with a midget passenger a standard-width KR with standard
> canopy is about the most uncomfortable contraption you could imagine with
> two people in it - plus the CG is so far back that you are holding
> forward stick on final.  
> 
> With a standard-width KR with a standard canopy, sitting in the center is
> the most logical and comfortable place to sit and if you're going to sit
> in the center, a center stick is the logical place to have the stick.
> Having two sticks only makes sense if you have room enough for two
> people.   
> 
> If you're still in the designing stage, think about a side stick.  Ken
> Rand had one and there are plans floating around.  
> 
> Mike
> KSEE
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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KR> Wing program

[PPaulVsk at aol.com]

Wings is FAA safety program. I don't no much about it. I know  you can  get 
some type of credit towards your review when you complete a course. There  
are hundreds of them. There are some EAA webinars you can also get credit  
for.  Maybe a CFI can explain it a little better.   
https://www.faasafety.gov/WINGS/pub/default.aspx

Paul  Visk
Belleville Il.
618-406-4705  


In a message dated 7/22/2014 4:24:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
danrh at windstream.net writes:

Paul,

Is it an online course?  Or, where is it  conducted?

My Panther Building Documentation at PantherBuilder Web  Site

Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

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via
KRnet
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 12:07 AM
To:  krnet at list.krnet.org
Subject: KR> Wing  program

KR> Videos

[Paul Visk]

Nice video Mark. Is you camera a GoPro??

Paul Visk
Belleville Il
618 406 4705


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 Original message From: Mark Jones via KRnet 
 Date:07/22/2014  7:42 AM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: KRnet  Subject: KR> Videos 

Here are video links of N886MJ with the camera mounted on the tip of the 
right stabilizer.

First flight March 21 2005
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmHk1Gt586I0

High speed pass runway 30 at KSTE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QPWxqtv4cI

Landing runway 21 at KSTE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfXagjar5IE

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI
E-mail: flykr2s at charter.net
Web: www.flykr2s.com
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KR> Landing with both flaps and belly board deployed

[Hennie van Rooyen [HQP Alloystream]]

Hi again Jeff,

Do you perhaps any other flying videos of your KR2S? If so, please be so kind 
as to provide the links to those. I thoroughly enjoyed watching your video!

Regards,

Henni





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Sent: 22 July 2014 04:43 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> Landing with both flaps and belly board deployed

If anyone is interested, here is the view over the nose while landing a KR2S 
with both the enlarged flaps and the belly board down. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy9dXF5KjMU=em

Jeff Lange


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KR> One stick or two - Example online

[Steve G.]

Netter's,

I uploaded a photo to our website www.nvaero.com of our new dual stick
assembly.  We have had it for awhile but I haven't been able to spend much
time at home or working on the website.  

With Gathering duties and my real job keeping me away much of the time,
there isn't much time for anything else except filling parts orders or
working on my house. I have two nose gear assemblies and Chris Pryce's main
gear we are trying to finish up and a few other odds and ends.  Not much
sleep for me... :)

Steve Glover

KR> Videos

[Mark Jones]

Here are video links of N886MJ with the camera mounted on the tip of the right 
stabilizer.

First flight March 21 2005
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmHk1Gt586I0

High speed pass runway 30 at KSTE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QPWxqtv4cI

Landing runway 21 at KSTE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfXagjar5IE

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI
E-mail: flykr2s at charter.net
Web: www.flykr2s.com

KR> Airfoil

[Robert Boyd]

I just purchased a KR2 project from a friend in hopes of using parts on my
KR2s that I have been working on for a while. He has narrowed the fuselage
a little for a single seat version. I have a question. He has a lot done on
the wings. Both outer wings have the top foam in place and sanded to
contour. Only thing left to do is the bottom foam, some more sanding and
then the glass. Appears to be the RAF48, The center spars on my bird are
done and have been shaped for the 5046 airfoil i believe. What would be the
chances of completing his outer wings and mating them up to my center spars?

Also, I am considering selling this new fuselage if anyone is interested.
It is set up as single seat, tail is pretty much done, a lot has been done
on the controls and cables, center spars are done, it has the main gear,
wheels/tires and tail wheel. If anyone is interested in making me an offer
on it please contact me off list at iflyexp at gmail.com or 740-504-2692
I would be happy to send pics if you like.
Bob Boyd Frazeysburg Ohio

KR> Landing with both flaps and belly board deployed

[Paul Visk]

All you need to do is go to youtube and search for KR-2. There are many videos 
?of KR-2's.

Paul Visk
Belleville Il
618 406 4705


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Alloystream] via KRnet"  Date:07/22/2014  
4:39 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: JL ,KRnet  Subject: Re: KR> Landing with both flaps and belly 
board deployed 

KR> One stick or two

[Mark Langford]

My example for the issue with a single stick was a little lame...opening a
Ziploc of trailmix, although that's a common one.  One that's no so common,
but when it happens it REALLY matters, was when I broke my second
crankshaft.  I was doing a prop test on a loaned prop and I'd climbed out of
my airport to 7000' at 120 mph to time the climb and get a rate of climb
number, leveled out at 7000', and the normal (before the 5th bearing) slight
vibration worsened, rather than reducing upon leveling out at cruise
altitude.  I immediately realized what had happened, and switched the engine
off to minimize damage, knowing that I could  glide farther than I'd
climbed, and did a U-turn for my airport.  It took about 7 minutes to glide
back home, and I had enough altitude to circle the airport once and get the
approach just perfect.  Plus I knew if I needed to restart it, it would fire
right up because it was only a "little" broken, and idled fine before I shut
it off. 

Thanks to a slight wind that I hadn't noticed on takeoff (no AWOS at my
airport),  I started thinking I was a little short on very-short final, so I
opened the throttle a tad and hit the starter and although it turned over
freely, it wouldn't start, even with wind blowing through it.  Turns out it
had cooled down to the same 22F degrees ambient that existed when I fired it
up 15

 minutes earlier, and without an extra hand to run the primer, it wasn't
going to start again!  So I needed THREE hands (flaps require more stick
input than my thighs could provide).  I ended up landing 20 yards short of
the runway, taking out some bushes with one of my wheel pants.   [I now
ensure that the bushes never grow back...I only have to contend with cotton
or corn now.]

My point is that there are times when the use of BOTH hands is vital, and
sometimes you need three!  On N891JF I had the good sense to put the primer
button directly under the starter button, so one hand can do both jobs, but
that center stick is going away as soon as I get a chance, hopefully before
the flight to Chino.   Although I like to make my own components, I have one
of Steve Glover's awesomely well done dual stick setups  that I couldn't
possibly build for the same cost, given my hourly rate when working, and
it's going in the plane when I get a chance.

Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
ML at N56ML.com
www.N56ML.com 

KR> Landing with both flaps and belly board deployed

[Hennie van Rooyen [HQP Alloystream]]

Wow!!!

Stunning video! Wish I can lay my hands on more of those. Motivation to the 
extreme!

Henni



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Sent: 22 July 2014 04:43 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> Landing with both flaps and belly board deployed

If anyone is interested, here is the view over the nose while landing a KR2S 
with both the enlarged flaps and the belly board down. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy9dXF5KjMU=em

Jeff Lange


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KR> Landing with both flaps and belly board deployed

[Dan Heath]

Jeff,



Nice video.  What engine, and what is air speed at touchdown, as close as
you know?



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To: KRnet
Subject: KR> Landing with both flaps and belly board deployed



If anyone is interested, here is the view over the nose while landing a KR2S
with both the enlarged flaps and the belly board down. 



 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy9dXF5KjMU=em



Jeff Lange





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KR> Wing program

[PPaulVsk at aol.com]

Not KR related but vary informative.  Before my flight instructor  would 
sign off on my review. He wanted me to sign up for this FAA Wing  program and 
take this  Flight Review Prep Guide. course #ALC-25. For  someone who has'nt 
flown for 23 years. It was a great refresher course.  There are many other 
courses available under this program.  


Paul  Visk
Belleville Il.
618-406-4705

KR> One stick or two

[airguynh at comcast.net]

My 2 Cents worth. I agree with 1 stick. I have?a center stick, throttle, carb 
heat on the left side and radio and transponder down the middle under the 
panel. I straddle the radios and?can't ever plan to take passengers. Selfish I 
know. I'll give rides in a 'can. 
Paul 
N7970K 
New Hampshire 
- Original Message -

From: "Mike Stirewalt via KRnet"  
To: krnet at list.krnet.org 
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 3:33:38 PM 
Subject: KR> One stick or two 

Unless one is widening the cockpit ala Langford, Flesner, McHenry, etc. 
and modifying the canopy to accomodate the extra width, the KR-2 is not a 
two-up airplane except for demo or otherwise very local flights. ?Unless 
you're a midget with a midget passenger a standard-width KR with standard 
canopy is about the most uncomfortable contraption you could imagine with 
two people in it - plus the CG is so far back that you are holding 
forward stick on final. ? 

With a standard-width KR with a standard canopy, sitting in the center is 
the most logical and comfortable place to sit and if you're going to sit 
in the center, a center stick is the logical place to have the stick. 
Having two sticks only makes sense if you have room enough for two 
people. ? 

If you're still in the designing stage, think about a side stick. ?Ken 
Rand had one and there are plans floating around. ? 

Mike 
KSEE 
? 

? 


 
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